2023 Chevy Silverado HD 6.6L Vs 2023 Ford Super Duty 7.3L: Godzilla Vs King Kong!

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Today I compare a 2024 Chevrolet Silverado HD 6.6L Gas V8 to a 2023 Ford Super Duty 7.3L Gas V8!
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@henryford2736 Жыл бұрын

The turn signal clicker on the Chevy would drive me crazy....

@richardjohnson6053 Ай бұрын

The 6.6 was my preference. Trying all 3 , ram, ford , gmc I opted on the 6.6. Gmc 3500 4x4 crew... ram had the V8 feel, and towing was not the best in the torque range, I was only pulling 16k. In all 3 trucks, same load just swapped out the pulling vehicles. Next the ford while comfortable seats, felt interior was missing something. Over steer on the ford, and although quick empty, lacked a towing feeling when towing. The 6.6 gmc quiet cabin, firm balance when empty and towing, great acceleration when towing. The gmc was dialed in perfectly with the drive train. The better steering on the gmc when towing didn't lift front end and inspired confidence with the best control. The easy get to for all the engine components and maintenance on the gmc is way better than the other 2 contenders. Plus after seeing other reviews and the 7.3 disasters without ford backing their customers left me as a no trainer.

@toddgriffis896 Жыл бұрын

The badge on the Ford says XLT, you mentioned it was an XL. I appreciate this comparison between these two manufactures

@nafsucof Жыл бұрын

I mean Ford 6.8 should be king Kong.

@realmadrid5981 21 сағат бұрын

I have driven both engines in cutaway box truck configurations. The 6.6 drives down the highway like nothing, even with the box fully loaded. The 7.3 on the other hand hits a wall trying to reach 80-85 mph. I would pick the 6.6 any day

@freedomisntfree_44 Жыл бұрын

Chevy more in line with the 6.8 in the ford

@benlecluyse Жыл бұрын

Insane cars Ben !! ❤❤

@mr.robarbushites4055 Жыл бұрын

I got a suggestion for a video or videos. Vehicle comfortableness. Like trucks , SUVs example the big thing I seen is massaging seats. Like who does it best what do they use etc. Also other things too. Since trucks , SUVs are very widely used and go on long trips etc.

@mr.robarbushites4055 Жыл бұрын

Great video on the comparison 😎

@jonshields437 Жыл бұрын

Gm should have upped the horses. The 7.3 is a little more beastly, which is to be expected

@ShyaMiss Жыл бұрын

@HalfShell the 6.6 is of course at a displacement disadvantage, but it's also running a cam that's small for a 5.3. Simply giving it a bit more camshaft would be a good idea. I'm not saying that it's any sort of advantage that the Ford might not also be able to use. But I am saying, it's artificially held back more than is necessary.

@blackice7408 Жыл бұрын

It's not about horsepower with these engines. It's about the torque. But this big 7.3L v8 should be making at least 500 lb tq

@ShyaMiss Жыл бұрын

@@blackice7408 that's not fully true. It definitely matters to have good low rpm torque, but horsepower also matters. You can make up for a softer torque curve with gearing. The reverse is not true.

@chadmiller6487 10 ай бұрын

I traded my 2020 7.3 for a 2023 6.6. So far I've put 30k on both trucks. I transport horses for a living. This is the first GMC I've owned in my life. I don't see myself going back to the 7.3.

@cliffordmorgan4222 10 ай бұрын

Any more insight ? Why the switch and how do they compare?

@chadmiller6487 10 ай бұрын

@@cliffordmorgan4222 The power between the two is basically a toss up. Ford has slightly better numbers but the GMC does a better job of using it's power smoothly. The suspension and ride quality of the GMC is miles above the Ford. Also better mpg. No sway and little squat under weight. Just an overall better experience. Oh, I also added an S&B intake system which made a nice difference in mpg (+3) and throttle response. Not to mention it sounds really nice.

@michaelmiller7196 10 ай бұрын

@@chadmiller6487did you have it tuned? After intake

@chadmiller6487 10 ай бұрын

@@michaelmiller7196 no. Just a pedal commander.

@rahulrane1658 6 ай бұрын

I believe the GMC has 4auto setting which can be useful if you live in more snow packed regions. I think I am sold on the GMC

@fattie2550 Жыл бұрын

Compare the 6.8

@Lisa4Me2 Жыл бұрын

Ben, did you state that the power numbers of that Chevy 6.6L were ... 401HP and 464 FT LBS of torque?? Another commenter down below was wondering about the numbers (Ford 6.8L vs the Chevy 6.6L). I thought Chevy had the HP at 420 for the HD 2500/3500 gas engines? Great vid as always!

@blackice7408 Жыл бұрын

Ur talking about the 6.2L lt1 v8

@GTOGregory 10 ай бұрын

The 420 HP number is for the 6.2 liter engine that only comes in the 1500 or 1/2 ton truck. The 6.2 liter engine produces 460 pound-feet of torque.

@chrisaldana3984 Жыл бұрын

Imma give a shout out to your beard. Immaculate beard!!!

@gs-pd5ox Жыл бұрын

Crazy the chevy has almost 1000lbs more gvrw but only 120lbs more payload.

@agentcarder Жыл бұрын

Plow package maybe increasing front gvwr

@mikewarren1401 8 ай бұрын

Chevy probably has a higher curb weight

@hydro1581 7 ай бұрын

Differnt bed weight

@paulsmith-ld8xl Жыл бұрын

Best video.

@cargotoolshop5319 Жыл бұрын

I'm more of a Chevy, dodge fan, not that I don't like Ford's, but real world the Chevy rides best down a gravel road, the straight axle just pounds the truck, Ford and dodge, I think it comes down to too much unsprung weight

@michaelburke3731 Жыл бұрын

I'm curious about a comparison between the Ford 6.8 compared the GM 6.6.

@Lisa4Me2 Жыл бұрын

Ford's new 6.8L gas motor is rated at 405HP and 445 FT LBS of torque. I think Ben said that Chevy 6.6L was rated at 401HP and 464 FT LBS of torque(?). I thought these chevy engines, in the HD 2500/3500 were rated at 420HP? So, I'm not positive about the Chevy power numbers. If Ben could clear that up, it would help. The Ford 7.3L Godzilla is rated at 430HP and 485 FT LBS of torque FOR THE YEAR 2023! I have the 2020 F-350 Lariat 7.3L Godzilla, the first year of the Godzilla and that first year was rated at 430HP and 475 FT LBS of torque. Ford DID up the torque a tad, from 475 to 485 for the 2023 Super Duty Godzilla engines.

@sly9263 11 ай бұрын

comparing the entry level Ford engine to GM's only gasser so they can beat Ford at something for a change? lmao

@cliffordmorgan4222 5 ай бұрын

@@sly9263this is actually pushed in Fords favor because it's a larger engine. Like he said a better comparison would be the Ford 6.8 vs Chevy 6.6. In that the Chevy has more power despite smaller displacement

@sly9263 5 ай бұрын

@@cliffordmorgan4222 dynos tell the real story, not peak specsheet stats, and there's no quantifiable mpg difference across the board with these; the 7.3 is the best gas engine in the HD market

@scratchin4bigbucks266 9 ай бұрын

think i would go with the chevy for the overall reliability 7.3 has huge issues with cam in lifter delamination engine failure

@khakiswag 5 ай бұрын

And you’re going to ignore GM’s collapsing lifters thats been going on since they started with AFM and the glass transmissions?

@cliffordmorgan4222 5 ай бұрын

@khakiswag well.... the 6.6 doesn't have that system. No cylinder deactivation no auto start/stop...

@ramaswamynarayanaswamy4806 3 ай бұрын

@@khakiswag Those issues are overblown. Lifter issues ARE NOT COMMON compared to the number sold.

@pwilly8543 2 ай бұрын

And the cam lifter to trucks sold is also overblown. Ford is the best truck by far

@ramaswamynarayanaswamy4806 2 ай бұрын

@@pwilly8543 Ford has plenty of QC issues.

@bluebeadle1911 Жыл бұрын

Is Allison not the company who makes their transmissions?

@leonardharview4577 Жыл бұрын

From what I have gathered, the Allison is not mfg. by Allison. Chevy acquired licensing from Allison to mfg. in house by GM, if true.

@freedomisntfree_44 Жыл бұрын

They slapped an Allison badge on it. Fords past transmission are better than anything Allison put out. Especially my 2007 duramax that welded the gears together with an empty trailer. Ford ain’t ever skipped a beat though

@josephpuchel6497 Жыл бұрын

GMs 10 speed direct from FORD engineers.

@dallasfrost1996 Жыл бұрын

Nope. The transmission is fully GM, it just happens to be Allison approved. Basically to allow the Allison name to be used on it.

@dallasfrost1996 Жыл бұрын

@@josephpuchel6497 Incorrect. The 10 speed used in GM HD trucks are different to Ford's SD trucks. Only the 10 speed used in GM's 1500's are co-developed with Ford.

@vhp454 16 күн бұрын

Any transmission with many gears doesn't have long life, more gears equals more moving parts, the Chevy doesn't have a true Allison transmission, they just own the Allison name

@rodphilpot3784 Жыл бұрын

Did the Ford beep when it was in reverse?

@BenHardyCars Жыл бұрын

Yes

@tytomlinson7831 Жыл бұрын

How can you do a test drive going around the corner? If you can't put a few miles on and get on the highway , why bother?

@Icutmetal 5 ай бұрын

Or really anything geared towards what these trucks were designed for.

@RicardoLopez-zw1st 3 күн бұрын

Chevy Silverado HD 👍🏽

@jrlonestar Жыл бұрын

GODZILLA ROCKS!!!!!

@PeteLeuenberger Жыл бұрын

Gas mileage comparison would be great

@sly9263 11 ай бұрын

irrelevant

@Anticidal25901 5 ай бұрын

@@sly9263not irrelevant. It’s a big factor.

@sly9263 5 ай бұрын

@@Anticidal25901 you misunderstand. the difference in their mileage is irrelevant because it's the same or .2-.3 at most

@Abuzac 4 ай бұрын

SkoozMe. That's like saying a penny on a dollar doesn't matter. Umm, nah thank you. I'll take it lol.

@PeteLeuenberger 4 ай бұрын

@@sly9263 So that's relevant ;-)

@Clevelandsteamer324 4 ай бұрын

GM had an 8.1liter in 2000 should have brought it back

@jaycrane761 Ай бұрын

Heard the 6.6 was an oil eater? And ford seem like it’s lines and pips under the hood are an afterthought. Just seems sloppy but they are a work truck not a show truck.chevys 10 speed is a nice addition. Fords 7.3 has same transmission as the 6.7 where the 6.8 is not as beefy and it’s Same as the f150 I was told? not sure I would trust it as a tow vehicle till it has a few years under its belt. Chevy seems to ride better due to its IFS but who knows if it hold it back being soft or not?

@johndonovan1878 8 ай бұрын

Dubs it, “the Allison”… cred dump right there!

@juancandia6626 Жыл бұрын

❤ Ford..!

@rubengarcia9993 6 ай бұрын

7.3. No question!

@randyb7816 Жыл бұрын

Amazing, maybe a 1 mile test drive? Not a very good review

@johnathanleonardo912 Жыл бұрын

What's the difference? They're both pushrod

@sly9263 11 ай бұрын

the 6.6 is DI only because GM is cheap, stupid, and doesn't care about longevity.

@horsepowerlife3679 2 ай бұрын

⁠@@sly9263Direct injection is cheap and stupid? It increases power by 50hp on the 5.3. Tons of manufactures use the technology, and it’s more expensive than port injection. What am I missing here?

@sly9263 2 ай бұрын

@@horsepowerlife3679 keep going- what is bad about direct injection? dual direct and port is what modern companies use now,

@slhopf 5 ай бұрын

Allison is not a nickname for a transmission. Allison is the name of the company that manufactures those transmissions.

@Icutmetal 5 ай бұрын

Sure it is…

@reycuerdos 2 ай бұрын

Nah…I don’t think they manufacture those transmissions. I think they just let them use the name. Look it up.

@MrTay675 Жыл бұрын

hard to judge these trucks until you have 15000 pounds of tow load. without towing anything you'd get a better driving experience with a camry

@nathanielmeyer5200 4 ай бұрын

Not sure why the comparison always ends up like a dick measuring contest. It's not about racing. It's about a truck you buy to work with. I choose comfort and dependability and GM wins that every time in my experiences. Decades of ford junk. Never had anywhere near the issues with my gm trucks as I did with fords. Keep your 7.3 salamander. Already seeing tons of warranty work on them😅

@kars4me2 Жыл бұрын

Chevy always

@40ozdon Жыл бұрын

Is it true the new 10 speed Chevrolet trucks aren’t actually Allison-made transmissions? Just something I’ve heard in the past

@actZR900 7 ай бұрын

Thats true. Its a gm/ford collaboration actually

@ramaswamynarayanaswamy4806 3 ай бұрын

@@actZR900 1500s ONLY.

@actZR900 3 ай бұрын

@@ramaswamynarayanaswamy4806 that new 10 speed in the HD trucks is not made by allison. Just tested and badged by allusin. Look it up.

@Back_door_bandit_98 Жыл бұрын

The engine bay looks like a mess on that 7.3

@satansleftnut25 Жыл бұрын

Seems that way in all the fords

@RK-nr8qf Жыл бұрын

There ain't too many things under the hood of a ford that's not a mess.

@CoyoteFTW Жыл бұрын

A mess how? Very empty engine bay…

@CoyoteFTW Жыл бұрын

@@RK-nr8qf right only a shitvrolet humper would choose the weak lifter eating 6.6 vs 7.3 Ford …

@RK-nr8qf Жыл бұрын

@@CoyoteFTW 6.6 gas engines don't have cylinder deactivation. A few Godzilla engines have been having camshaft dalamination. Don't know if Ford made any changes. The Big3 aren't known for addressing problems in a timely manner.

@GTOGregory 10 ай бұрын

I'll say the GM/Chevrolet gets better gas mileage.

@brianfisher2446 Жыл бұрын

Ford all day, wont burn a barrel of oil every month

@reycuerdos 2 ай бұрын

They only chew their lifters. Looks like a good trade off. 😂

@brianmink7179 Жыл бұрын

There useing Allison logo not true Allison google it

@dantimber Жыл бұрын

I like both but the Ford looked like it had a much harder ride than the Chevy.

@Lisa4Me2 Жыл бұрын

I own a 2020 F-350 Lariat 7.3L Godzilla and it's surprising how well it rides even without any weight in the truck. It rides as nice as my 2019 F-250 (6.2L) Super Duty.

@CoyoteFTW Жыл бұрын

That’s because Ford is built like a real truck solid front axle not the weak car like chevy suspension and frame

@nmtz91 Жыл бұрын

Whats going on under the hood of that Ford GM trucks seem to be more friendly for the ones who wanna pay off the truck and keep after the warranty goes away Yea I’ll take that 6.6 any day of the week

@ML-lg4ky Жыл бұрын

As a Ford guy that Chevy looks great!

@ec16445 Жыл бұрын

And, sadly, the Ford looks terrible.

@kylebutler7142 Жыл бұрын

Chevy is terrible looking. Looks like a transformer that got punched in the face. The Ford is way more handsome, compared to that cross-eyed looking Chev !!

@mick2798 Жыл бұрын

Chevy took a L by not chnaging the base model headlights and only doing it on ltz and up

@guamazolopez6456 Жыл бұрын

didn’t notice that til i saw your comment

@dallasfrost1996 Жыл бұрын

I believe there is a package you can add on the LT to get the new updated LED lights like on the LTZ, ZR2, HighCountry.

@mick2798 Жыл бұрын

@@dallasfrost1996 it really shouldn’t be an option. Ford you get the same setup through out the trims just led gets added to higher options

@dallasfrost1996 Жыл бұрын

@@mick2798 Oh well, there's always GMC. The Sierra's get LED headlights across all trims as standard equipment. They're the only brand doing that.

@user-ej9pr5ly8v 7 ай бұрын

I agree, it's to sway more people into higher trims. They know what they're doing

@matthewspann3003 7 ай бұрын

The Ecoboost 3.5 in the f150 has a tow rating of 14,100lbs, kinda sad a 6.6 v8 2500hd is only rated for 16,000

@hydro1581 7 ай бұрын

That 3.5 Cannot tow 14K I can tell you right now

@Icutmetal 5 ай бұрын

And the fact that you drew that comparison immediately announced your ignorance.

@hydro1581 5 ай бұрын

@@Icutmetal could you image a 3.5 ecoboost doing 14K up a hill?

@Icutmetal 5 ай бұрын

@@hydro1581 And could you imagine the rest of the truck controlling it coming down the other side with a strong cross wind?

@hydro1581 5 ай бұрын

@@Icutmetal Been there done that. Towed big things with a half ton. (Was only 7.5K) They can’t handle side winds at all

@khakiswag Жыл бұрын

Ford engine names are waaayyyy better than GM.

@Icutmetal 5 ай бұрын

Is that what you base important decisions on?

@khakiswag 5 ай бұрын

@@Icutmetal yep

@christopherrubay3918 Жыл бұрын

Ford all the way

@chriscampbell8648 Жыл бұрын

The Chevy is just a much better looking truck. I also noticed Ford has eliminated hood insulation. Ford is always cutting corners on items they just shouldn't be leaving out.

@marcg.3830 Жыл бұрын

At least Fords base trucks get a new interior unlike what GM did with their new trucks. I’d call that cost cutting. And if the Ford is quieter it wouldn’t need hood insulation as that’s what it’s used for.

@arkhsm Жыл бұрын

The Ford is way more handsome, compared to that cross-eyed looking Chev !!

@MZZHZZWZZ Жыл бұрын

The Ford looks like a box of Kleenex with braces.

@dallasfrost1996 Жыл бұрын

Agreed. Those new Superduty's are ugly as heck!

@Tiovergudo Жыл бұрын

@@mikemccarthy6939 its a better looking truck plus there is a new LED front end that looks even better

@TheAnnoyingBoss Жыл бұрын

Anyone who buys one has more money than sense

@Oldjongcrow416 Жыл бұрын

🔥🔥🔥👈

@RK-nr8qf Жыл бұрын

The rearend ratios are probably different also. Don't know how that jackshaft-driven oil pump on the Godzilla will hold up over time. I'd choose the Chevy 6.6 gas for the long haul.

@AK_Ray Жыл бұрын

Yeah but you could also argue that Chevys cylinder deactivation would hurt longevity. It's all about possible failure with the Ford versus proven failure with the GM

@RK-nr8qf Жыл бұрын

@@AK_Ray The 6.6 gas doesn't have deactivation.

@AK_Ray Жыл бұрын

@@RK-nr8qf touche, I see that now. Thank you for educating me.

@freedom7458 Жыл бұрын

@RK-nr8qf it does have direct injection though, which is know. To have problems. That being said neither are without risk. Too bad it takes 60k or more to take those risks haha

@gildroyboothe2548 9 ай бұрын

Love Chevy's and how they keep everything so simple swear for complicates everything

@jamesrichardson559 Жыл бұрын

GM is pure garbage. 100,000 mile transmission and engine at best. GM front end 60,000 miles

@carltongray3302 Жыл бұрын

Ford and GM use the same 10 speed . GM is just Allison branded

@anthonyc993 Жыл бұрын

@@carltongray3302 that is incorrect. The ford transmission is designed and built by ford. The gm transmission is built by gm and not Allison. Gm uses the Allison name as Allison approved the design and branding it an Allison. Now for the ford and gm half ton trucks those were co designed by ford and gm.

@Back_door_bandit_98 Жыл бұрын

@@anthonyc993 nah the 10 speed used in the HDs are also co produced the 10r140 torque shift ford uses is the same as the 10L1000 GM calls the new Allison fords 10 speed has a higher lockout on the torque converter.

@jamesrichardson559 Жыл бұрын

@@carltongray3302 Check the KZfaq teardown comparison of the GM 10L to the Ford 10R

@CloroxGodThe1st Жыл бұрын

Edited you're comment. Gotta hold that L

@fernandocancino7800 Жыл бұрын

definitely the ford engine is better

@carltongray3302 Жыл бұрын

Just because it has more power/TQ don’t make it better . The GM 6.6 is impressive and just as durable if not more

@rogeliobenitez7282 Жыл бұрын

At this point, both have new and unproven powerplants

@fernandocancino7800 Жыл бұрын

@@carltongray3302 I think the ford engine is more refined in operation and slightly faster, it is my opinion, "king kong" is perhaps the most reliable engine that Chevrolet has today

@joseramos7476 Жыл бұрын

The two gas are a wash, Ford has been borrowing design from GM 🤦

@Icutmetal 5 ай бұрын

Well that was helpful 🤦‍♂️

@rodneyhirsch2340 Жыл бұрын

The GM is a long stroke engine. More torque at lower rpm. Designed for pulling not racing. Doesn’t give up much torque to the 45 cubic inch bigger ford.

@freedomisntfree_44 Жыл бұрын

The ford is very conservative like all their engines. They can easily jump the power up for new year models. Gm will keep those same number forever. And the ford makes over 400lbft from like 1400rpm up the gm don’t make that much

@guamazolopez6456 Жыл бұрын

@@freedomisntfree_44not true

@freedomisntfree_44 Жыл бұрын

@@guamazolopez6456 you should do a lil research. Your short answer speaks volumes

@benjaminwayneb Жыл бұрын

The 7.3 has a longer stroke then then GM'S 6.6 and a low rpm torque peak.

@98durangopack Жыл бұрын

@@guamazolopez6456 try reading more because you need educated. Chevy 6.6 gas is weak af.

@bodyguard5879 Жыл бұрын

Both engines are problematic. Currently, all full size truck engines are unreliable, including the Tundra.

@guamazolopez6456 Жыл бұрын

6.6 isn’t, just a gas hog

@rogeliobenitez7282 Жыл бұрын

It's direct injected, it will have problems too

@PeteLeuenberger Жыл бұрын

@@rogeliobenitez7282 So what is one to do if i need a HD truck?

@michaeljordan4571 Жыл бұрын

@HalfShell ya ya 7.3 issues are over blown, but not the chevy burning a little oil, get out of here fanboy. you ford boys have overblown the oil problem on the chevy so could feel better about your shitty 7.3. last I checked 1 in 500 engines have lifter problems on new trucks, that is a big issue to me. my 5.3 has had oil consumption for the past 15 years, you just have to add a little every so often.

@rogeliobenitez7282 Жыл бұрын

I worry about potential problems with both GM & Ford gasser engines but mostly north of 100k miles... If you rack up miles quickly, look at diesels. I am biased towards power strokes for 200 - 400k mile usage, if you need higher than that, then get Cummins for reduced labor costs during repairs.

@Kenneth_R Жыл бұрын

Ford dealers are terrible for the most part and overall Ford quality control and build quality has been terrible lately so even though the 7.3 is a great engine I would opt for the Chevy/GMC no question. Shame because the Ford designers and Engineers are great.

@johnathanleonardo912 Жыл бұрын

And GM still has lifter issues and their 8 speeds are crap

@carltongray3302 Жыл бұрын

@@johnathanleonardo9126.6 gasser does t have those issues

@Killbot754 Жыл бұрын

@@carltongray3302 burns oil and direct injection gums up valves.

@sly9263 11 ай бұрын

LOL only a complete imbecile would straight faced talk about Ford QC and act like government motors is a better decision... hahahahahaha

@sly9263 11 ай бұрын

@@johnathanleonardo912 GM has been putting out leaking rear mains for 20 years and counting- they just scrapped the 3.0 duramax for a new one already. GM engines burn oil, dont even have port, and all their v8 DOD weak lifter systems are a ticking timebomb and mpg scam

@mikemccarthy6939 Жыл бұрын

Chevy sucky7.3 smokes the 6.6

@johncipolletti5611 Жыл бұрын

Great vehicles for wasting money in a purchase of these over-priced vehicles! Also, great at gas guzzling (crying about $4 a gallon) and running at 12 mpg. Also top notch at pumping out environmentally dangerous exhaust. Hey, maybe a tank would be a better investment!?

@Sc-jf3yk Жыл бұрын

These are work trucks. Necessary to do the job. There aren't any other options.

@johncipolletti5611 Жыл бұрын

@Sc Yes, a couple of them are parked down my street. They go by my house shaking it like tanks. Oh, and after time, they showed me that they are truly work trucks. My nice road has been ripped apart, partly by these work behemoths. I saw a large chunk of concrete fly up as one drove by in front of my home. The work? The road will have to be now repaired!

@tedholvey2271 Жыл бұрын

Hey John Cipolletti, some of us need trucks to do our job. You probably drive a rice burner or a Duracell P.O.S., you probably don't know anyone that works building things or servicing things for a living. Just another "snowflake" commenting on sh_ _ you know nothing about!!!

@kenbacon292 Жыл бұрын

Seems like if you feel that way you are watching the wrong video. There’s a Prius vs. Chevy bolt video you might like better?

@johncipolletti5611 Жыл бұрын

@Ken Bacon NO, I know the game the car makers are playing. They are brainwashing the public to buy big behemoths to usually carry around one butt. On top of that, they persuade the suckers to buy a vehicle that cost twice the price of a sedan, gets poor gas mileage, and on top of that, they are charging the sucker 20% over MSRP!