I ended up going Miata, but the lack of space is becoming more and more problematic. Would you say the BRZ or WRX is more bumpy than the Miata? I could not find any dealerships nearby to allow to test drive BRZ or WRX. That's why I ended up with Miata since I could test drive really any Mazda I wanted at the local dealership.

@@tcc5750 the BRZ has surprisingly soft suspension. It’s ride is smoother than my wife’s SUV and great on long road trips. The 86 is noticeably more jarring than either BRZ or MX5.

@@tcc5750 I own a Gen 2 BRZ and the suspension is pretty soft for the car it is. I didn't even test drive a Miata as I am 6'2" and didn't want to somehow fall in love with it and then later hate it cause I would be cramped and couldn't take more than 1 person with me (I many times take 2 of my kids with me and they fit just fine on the passenger side).

I personally couldn't even fit in the Miata - but in the BRZ (Gen 2) it was more than enough room. The Miata is more refined for sure, but the BRZ / GR86 is way more of a performance car in terms of the interior and feel.

Me too! Apparently there are a lot of us! They're both a lot of fun to drive, but I can't decide between the practicality of back seats and increased power and AWD of the wrx or the increased fun, handling, style, and lower price of the BRZ.

LOL

Plot twist. It's actually his home, that's why he always makes videos there.

Yes, this. Mines a premium with the HK and moon roof upgrade. Saved me a lot of money getting that vs a limited which allowed to choose a lot of other options from the factory without the car being over $40k. I do wish I had the seats that say "WRX" on the head rest though. Doesn't seem like something you can order to replace either

I have the base model, love everything so far, no complaints, only thing I wish it had was the premium sound system

​@@leokavanaugh1939 I would get the base if it had the HK sound system. I don't care about moonroofs

I think so too...

The suede/alcantera seats with lumbar support in the limited is worth it alone. (Although not the Recaro’s which are $10,000 for both driver&passenger), I’m sure it’s a hefty price tag. You also get the moving curve adaptive LED projectors that I can never go back to the standard static LED’s. out the door price 38,000 in GA

I think the GT version or whatever has adaptive suspension. It is auto tho if you care

the dash on mine rattles alot

I have a GT as well a BRZ pulled up next to me and he got gapped . Funny his license plate said GAPTME

One thing I noticed when I test drove a WRX is I felt the visibility was bad, compared to other sedans. Not terrible, but worse than I expected. This was a 2019 wrx though

@@wingspantt 2019, eh? So a totally different car (VA chassis). Your comment is pointless.

You got ripped off if you paid msrp. I got both my 22 WRXS for two grand under msrp

@@gustavogo2915 a limited is still near 40k even if you get it 2k under MSRP after taxes and fees

@@nickjacobsss just got my limited for 32k. can't complain LOL

@@garboi8976 New? Where at? (city/state/dealer)

What did you get to replace it?

recently sold my GR86 for a wrx limited manual and i think the 86 was stiffer but it's fairly similar between the two. neither are particularly soft lol

You just have to blip harder (a lot harder imo) from 3->2. 6 to5, 5to4, 4to3 are all about the same light blip, but 3to2 and 2to1 require a way larger blip (Would guess it has to do with gearing) for it to be smooth. Also, a louder exhaust may help you learn it quicker/easier as you'll have an auditory cue to accompany your foot cue.

Yes, bigger blip and or let the clutch out faster once you hit the throttle before the rpm’s drop. 3rd to 2nd is hardest for me to get smooth too.

Presumably same as a key. Hold clutch and brake, press button.

Thanks for the suggestion. I set it to 75% early when I saw your comment. Sounded natural.

Oh come on. The BRZ is more than spacious enough. I’m 6’2 and daily drove a Miata for 6 years. The BRZ is cavernous.

There's a 6'5" overweight guy in a review who fit just fine in the BRZ/GR86

I'm on the north side of 6'2", 230ish and own a 23 BRZ. Fit just fine no problems. The car has more than enough room for someone 6'3" likely even 6'4".

6’4”, 230, plenty of room

@@TheDiskinsDoEverything I sat in a GR86 at a local autoshow and was surprised how much room inside. I also sat in a Supra and felt it was more cramped

Yeah, my thoughts exactly. The big title of the video, then it just kind of ends like the battery in his camera died. The WRX has gotten insanely expensive. And shame on Subaru for putting HVAC controls on the touch screen. Someone on the WRX design team has lost touch with what Subaru customers value. Just because we have the technology to put HVAC controls on a touch screen, doesn't make it a good idea. I have a '17 BRZ Limited with Performance Pack, and a Forester XT. Love the simple controls. One thing he failed to mention is driver height. A family member who is tall with long legs opted for the WRX over my gen BRZ because he just didn't fit well.

@@scottanthony3426 I have a 2017 BRZ performance pack as well! The WRX is really for someone who’s only looking for one car and needs some practicality/AWD but also something sporty…otherwise if you can go with a 2 car garage there are better alternatives

@@clintonrodriguez9771 That's exactly where I was. I have a Forester too, so this didn't have to be very practical. That said, I test drove a Miata too, and just couldn't see how that would work with NO room in the cockpit for anything. Jackets, wife's purse, etc, all has to pretty much go in the footwells. The back seats on the BRZ are mostly uninhabitable (squeezed a single passenger in there once), but they are great for jackets, and anything you want to be able to grab without getting out of the car. Also in choosing the BRZ over the WRX, I wanted, for once, to choose a light RWD car built on a dedicated platform, vs something designed to be 10 different flavors depending on mods. I'd already had a Civic Si, and the WRX is an Impreza on steroids. Nothing wrong with those cars, but I'd never had a great time/circumstance to just go for the dedicated design until I pulled the trigger on this. Got a great deal - it was still on the lot in January of '18. Sadly, it is difficult to even find the new gen BRZ/GT86 on a dealer lot.

@Kan Gill I can't stand those gaudy shopping cart wings. I also don't find the WRX plain with its hood scoop and flared fenders. But to each his own.

It doesn’t necessarily need an “STI Spoiler” but a spoiler would be nice for this car. Hopefully the aftermarket gets away from making STI reps for this Gen and actually make a new design

@@arealglitterb0y And even though I hate them, the sti wings sells so of course aftermarket will take advantage of that. There are several other options out there though.

​@arealglitterb0y well it has a lip Spoiler... which blends in with the car. If you want a big Spoiler then go get an aftermarket universal one.

You need to learn how to have fun in your WRX…

Not quite at 1k miles yet but close. But I’m having fun, trust me. Just different feel in a small car like the brz.

@@Matt-ki6tw I have a 22 WRX and I agree

@@Matt-ki6tw Same car, also agree. It can be fun when you put your foot down and turn hard but driving in normal road conditions it feels like a normal car.

Crazy right? You can buy L certified Lexus RC/RX/IS for 30-35K with 30K ish miles. Much more stylish, luxurious, and reliable than Subarus I feel like...

That's the only thing that makes sense in a used WRX compared to a new BRZ.

The base (premium 🙄) WRX starts lower (under 30k USD - maybe he meant CAD) than the limited BRZ. Only when you option it does it get that high. Shit the base ecoboost is the price of a BRZ. But once you go Premium the price rockets up 5k (and the premium is Much better than the base - least they finally added a touch display -_-). If you want it convertible (add over 6k since it doesn't come in base models), auto tranny (add 1.6k), the high performance package which also adds magnaride and dual exhaust (add 6.1k), the digital cluster (add 2.8k), speaker upgrade (add 1k), you end up over 50k before a spoiler and blackout options, wheels or paints. Nevermind if you want the V8...you might as well just try for a GT-350, or at least a Mach1 if you're going fully loaded.

Not for a 2022 limited. Those are 38,000

The WRX also had an optional $1200 exhaust upgrade option

Or if we got the wagon that Japan and Australia get, but with a manual and of course the higher redline

​@@mistamaog high compression pistons import? :)

@@mistamaog I'd take a hatch almost every time, but the new body style hatch looks horrible to me lol

Stock for stock, WRX with an adequate launch should be quicker than the BRZ. Though, im sure the BRZ is quicker off a roll

@@BDA0531 Wrong. 2022+ BRZ/GR86 is actually quicker than the 2022+ WRX both from a dead stop and from a roll.

@@moldyrefrigerator Pls link me the vid that shows a BRZ beating a VB WRX from a launch stock for stock. Because if youre going by 0-60 numbers the VB WRX requires a 3rd shift to hit 60 so its abit inaccurate

@@BDA0531 Merry Christmas kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qMdofK-A1bTIoYk.html

@@moldyrefrigerator that WRX 100% owner bogged his launch. Trust me I had an STI and when launched properly (which is very hard to do) its gone. Im not taking away anything from the BRZ but I know what the WRX is capable of

LOL

More fun to drive? 😂. You can’t be serious. The BRZ is a legitimate sports car with 600lbs less weight, much lower COG, shorter wheelbase, much better steering feel, much better transmition, much better seating position, and a more responsive high revving motor.

@@jjchockey brz is a slower miata lol

@@wescooper2961 except it’s a good bit quicker than a Miata…

@@jjchockey debatable lol

@@wescooper2961 how is it debatable? Metrics like power to weight ratio and acceleration are facts…. 😂

They really didn't though

@@mistamaog Sure they did. It's objectively uglier from every angle. Not to mention CVT only for the highest trim? What's that garbage? Belongs nowhere near a sports car. They're turning it into a gutless family car.

@@BRZguy CVT only for the GT model, you're right, terrible idea, plus it costs too much. Even the limited trim is a bit much. Looks are subjective, to me it looks better in person, except for the rear bumper. The fenders I already got used to, and now even Porsche is adding them to their off road 911. I wouldn't say they dropped the ball though because there's really no other AWD 4 door sedan for under $40k with a manual.

@@mistamaog I've seen em in person too and I just can't get over all the cheap plastic trim they have everywhere. Reminds me of an early 00's econobox. And the proportions of the last gen were just better. On this one, the grille is too big, the headlights are too far apart, rear bumper plastic takes up too much vertical space. They dropped the ball relative to the previous gen.

Used to have a VA before getting a Supra - you hit the nail on the head, as did the other guy. Every generation it inches closer towards full on Corolla family car.

I recently went for an Ikea run with my BRZ and had no problem fitting flattened furniture in the back. And it's not the first time I've easily transported furniture. Practicality is overlooked or underestimated for small cars in general IMO. Most people don't need the amount of space they buy.

@@WhatisaLee The BRZ can definitely carry some stuff. Just not more than 2 people. I find the backseats completely useless, even for children. With good winter tires it can drive in light snow too, but its too low to deal with more than a few inches. Those reasons gave me an excuse to buy another subaru, one with AWD. Lol

You answered it yourself. If you have to purchase 2 cars then that's all I needed to know

@@SacredCASHcow I didnt "have" to. But I wanted a real performance car which to me only exists in RWD. I also wanted a great useable daily drive that my kids could drive and has room to haul stuff, which is what makes hatchbacks great. Since subaru sucks and doesnt give a wrx hatch and just this overly cladded goofy looking sedan, that ruled that out as well. So my logic was, why settle for 1 half assed vehicle when I can have 2 and get exactly what I want?

@boost331 I don't agree with the hivemind about the looks. I just ordered a wrx 2023, and I don't even have kids. I just like having backseats. I also feel like power is not that important to me. I don't want a speeding ticket. I do want good handling, awd, etc.

There is no difference

@@steve8803 The only reported difference to date is the price increase of $1,025.00. The fact that the reviewer can’t properly identify the car he is reviewing is the major concern, I’m pointing out.

@@odaymarks major concern? That's extreme.

@@steve8803 Not extreme at all. A reviewer should know what year car they are working with to do a proper review.

@@odaymarks it's extreme. Clearly you have an otherwise perfect life to qualify this as a major concern.