2024 Honda Passport TrailSport Snow Review

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4 ай бұрын

It's' the 2024 Honda Passport TrailSport versus our Mountain Test Course covered in fresh snow! Can the Honda conquer the trails?
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@lane5686
@lane5686 4 ай бұрын
Props to Honda for keeping their V6 engine while companies like Toyota are phasing it out!
@Chad_Max
@Chad_Max 4 ай бұрын
The engine is solid but that transmission has tons of issues…
@ryanb8736
@ryanb8736 4 ай бұрын
@@Chad_Maxolder versions of it did. Honda updated tuning to make it good. New 10 speeds are having issues.
@matteugenio
@matteugenio 4 ай бұрын
The V6 will be around for at least another 5-7 years, then everything will be 4-banger turbos or hybrid/EV.
@MetalsForBrunch
@MetalsForBrunch 2 ай бұрын
V6 for life!
@MetalsForBrunch
@MetalsForBrunch 2 ай бұрын
​@@ryanb8736do you own a Honda pilot with 10 speed auto?
@ejohnson3131
@ejohnson3131 4 ай бұрын
I just love the Passport’s size and off-road capability. Not everyone needs a clunky SUV with 3 rows of seating, nor another under powered compact crossover that you can’t take off-road. The Passport fits right in between and it’s nice to have decent power and a capable AWD system without having to go premium.
@luperamos7307
@luperamos7307 3 ай бұрын
But why not get the Pilot if it's larger and sells at roughly the same price point?
@ciello___8307
@ciello___8307 Ай бұрын
@@luperamos7307because you want something smaller duh
@EZapar
@EZapar 4 ай бұрын
Ryan!!! Finally a factory vehicle with some proper tires. All the AWD in the world is useless in the snow and mud without proper tires. Good for Honda!
@carlwisniewski2890
@carlwisniewski2890 4 ай бұрын
We've had our '24 Passport Trailsport for 5 weeks. We traded my wife's 17 yr old blue CR-V for the sky blue Trailsport. I love it already. We went to the Adirondacks last weekend. Dry pavement going, 6" of fresh snow coming home. It handled the snow-white interstate with ease.
@jeffreyarvik5936
@jeffreyarvik5936 4 ай бұрын
Great video. I own a 2020 Passport Elite and with winter tires, the thing is an absolute beast in the snow. I was in Lake Tahoe after a major storm driving on roads that Jeeps were getting stuck on. It’s crazy what a great AWD system and some good rubber can do.
@srm6130
@srm6130 4 ай бұрын
What winters are you running if I can ask ?
@jeffreyarvik5936
@jeffreyarvik5936 4 ай бұрын
@@srm6130 245/65R-17 BRIDGESTONE BLIZZAK DM-V2 SL on 17 inch rims.
@toddkovalcik332
@toddkovalcik332 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for this real world test! While most Passport owners may not put their vehicle to the challenge, it's nice to see the Honda perform quite well is these not so easy conditions.
@Acousticmarine678
@Acousticmarine678 4 ай бұрын
I drove a 1968 Ford Station wagon with rear wheel drive and studded snow tires when I got my drivers license in the winter of '76. We had a lot of snow in the Chicago area that winter and I never got stick once, the car was a beast, a snow plow. We didn't have any big hills to drive up and the clearance could have been an issue. But for on road driving, it was a tank. I drive a 2018 Ridgeline today and love the AWD system and most things about the vehicle. My daughter who lives in Wisconsin needs a new vehicle and the pilot looks to be the best choice if my Grandsons can fit in the back seats. They are both north of 6' and need leg room.
@MrGarfield4
@MrGarfield4 3 ай бұрын
My dad had the exact same car when I was a kid. Took my driver’s license road test in it. Yes, that car with studded snow tires WAS an absolute BEAST in the snow. It would go ALMOST anywhere…including mud.
@Grizz-one
@Grizz-one 4 ай бұрын
Great video, Ryan! Drone shots are amazing btw I agree Honda nailed it - wish it was a next gen model to have the latest tech inside but I do hope they keep the v6 on the next one comes along.
@rightlanehog3151
@rightlanehog3151 4 ай бұрын
Ryan, Why does snow look so good in the mountains yet so bad in my driveway? 🤔
@philipjacob2314
@philipjacob2314 3 ай бұрын
Your reviews are really awesome and adventurous. I love the technical details provided and challenges you put vehicles against
@knightryder3757
@knightryder3757 4 ай бұрын
ANOTHER excellent review from Ryan?? Color me shocked!
@douglasgrillo
@douglasgrillo 4 ай бұрын
Five-seater medium-sized SUVs are very rare in the market and this Honda Pilot is a great option, I it just had my hopes that Honda would launch a refreshed version but it's understandable because is not a bigger-seller such as the Pilot, so probably we'll see a new Passport for '25 🤞
@moloono1
@moloono1 4 ай бұрын
Great review! Glad to see the snow is hitting the elevations. I was hoping for some here in the lowlands.
@travisp11
@travisp11 4 ай бұрын
Your timing is impeccable! I just bought a 2024 Passport Trailsport two weeks ago and we are getting snow like crazy out here in Nebraska. I am just now watching your video but I can say mine just goes through about everything (and yes, I did watch TFL overheat the diff on their ranch). I want to add that the oil pan factory skid plate is an optional add on. I bought a used No Lo front skid plate for $80 that I plan to add.
@luperamos7307
@luperamos7307 3 ай бұрын
Why didn't you get the Pilot if you don't mind me asking? Sells at a similar price point and is larger
@travisp11
@travisp11 3 ай бұрын
@@luperamos7307 Pilot was 5K more and I just have me and the dog. It’s a bit more vehicle than what I really wanted. I figure a front skid plate and possibly a lift down the road and it will get me to the majority of the locations where I go. Nothing against the Pilot and yeah, I wish Honda would have brought over some its magic but the Passport was the size I was looking for. Kinda that Tahoe vs. Suburban equation.
@taylorb7191
@taylorb7191 2 ай бұрын
@@luperamos7307 Passport is a better size…3rd row seats = mom car
@eskieman3948
@eskieman3948 4 ай бұрын
Not bad at all! If I still lived up North & needed a SUV, this would be on my list to investigate & drive.
@wvusmc
@wvusmc 4 ай бұрын
Different era and made by Isuzu, my '96 Passport was a beast in deep snow. If the frame didn't rust out I would have never gotten rid of it. Starting to get pretty intrigued by the new Passport. Great content.
@Turnoblo
@Turnoblo 4 ай бұрын
I had an ‘02 Passport, great vehicle, unfortunately unsafe to drive because of frame rust also
@Fadic4
@Fadic4 4 ай бұрын
I had a 97 Rodeo and loved that thing in the snow, unfortunately the rust ate the frame up. I miss that car.
@hydroboy35th
@hydroboy35th 4 ай бұрын
Can’t wait to get mine, should be here in a couple weeks.
@jcollins1305
@jcollins1305 4 ай бұрын
A. Really sharp looking (and capable) vehicle! Nice job
@ALMX5DP
@ALMX5DP 4 ай бұрын
That just looks like so much fun. Super jelly.
@lucimathews8980
@lucimathews8980 4 ай бұрын
We bought a ‘23 Passport to replace our ‘10 pilot this fall & love it! We don’t live in snow country but do get snow & ice occasionally. Good info here
@lukiw7044
@lukiw7044 4 ай бұрын
With those tires it looks very aggessive. Great review of another not expected on Yours course Ryan. Greetings
@williamfeldner9356
@williamfeldner9356 4 ай бұрын
My 2023 Ridgeline is a snowmobile in the snow!
@stephenwinter8892
@stephenwinter8892 3 ай бұрын
Greetings from southern Ontario Canada I really enjoyed the video hopefully this passport will be available in a phev or hybrid in thefuture as honda wants to be fullyelectric by 2040, -10 C here so its been colder than wherever you are filming
@ablue5419
@ablue5419 4 ай бұрын
Definitely Honda passport is my favorite car 👍
@FlameClone
@FlameClone 4 ай бұрын
More Passport videos? I love this car! (Wish Honda would give it more love too, it always feels like it's all the way back in their priorities list)
@drivingsports
@drivingsports 4 ай бұрын
We have another one coming!
@failsworth655
@failsworth655 4 ай бұрын
I bought a 2023 pilot trailsport because last winter was brutal but this year we only have gotten about an inch so far. I'm excited to drive the pilot in a snow storm because I haven't found a good AWD vehicle since my old Subaru 2.5rs with a rear 1.5 diff and no traction aids.
@jmar3011
@jmar3011 4 ай бұрын
Great video. Would be awesome to see how the Pathfinder Rock Creek performs under the same conditions.
@TsNguyen9999
@TsNguyen9999 4 ай бұрын
Could you please do a video about a stock 2023 wrx off road next? Looking to purchase one in the future
@KevinLin145
@KevinLin145 4 ай бұрын
While you have the crosstrek wilderness, I'd love to see a "battle of AWD" video comparing TrailSport vs Wilderness. (And maybe vs Trailhawk vs bronco sport...etc. any unibody AWD "off road" models) Obviously the passport is about 17x larger than the crosstrek, but it'll still be interesting to see how each computer AWD system preform.
@garrettc16
@garrettc16 4 ай бұрын
Please do a snow review for the new CR-V AWD
@JRs-guitars
@JRs-guitars 4 ай бұрын
Good video. Would've liked to see how mud mode worked in the snow. I think that mode usually sits between sand and snow modes performance wise. Passport needs a little more ground clearance too.
@Robob23678
@Robob23678 4 ай бұрын
When I had my Ridgeline, I found mud mode was the best for getting through deep snow (40cm). Snow mode was great for most times when it was a dusting or just covering the road but was too restricting in deeper stuff.
@UKR91
@UKR91 4 ай бұрын
Can’t wait for a new updated passport
@elizabethshimada7809
@elizabethshimada7809 3 ай бұрын
I love my 22 exl in the snow.
@gevodem
@gevodem 4 ай бұрын
Great video! Would love to see the Pilot trailsport in the snow
@drivingsports
@drivingsports 4 ай бұрын
Now that we have snow, we have a request in.
@gevodem
@gevodem 4 ай бұрын
Thank you!!
@LatersOnTheMenjay.
@LatersOnTheMenjay. 4 ай бұрын
Feels like my price expectations will never recalibrate to the cost of new vehicles. We had 10+ years of inflation in the space of 3 years so I'm still looking at this package and thinking it's a solid 30-35K vehicle but here it is at 47K before on-road costs
@ShadowBend
@ShadowBend 4 ай бұрын
I thought the same when I test drove a Passport. It didn't feel like something that would cost that much. Ended up picking up a GX 460 with 19k miles for 41k. Only downside is MPG, which isn't even that bad highway - I've seen 22mpg mostly highway.
@nyc8452
@nyc8452 4 ай бұрын
@@ShadowBend love the GX460. I was very close to buying a pre-owned one pre-pandemic because they were seriously overlooked and running cheaper than same model year 4-runners. Coulda, woulda, shoulda!
@blakliffy
@blakliffy 4 ай бұрын
You're not alone
@CrazyGreek80
@CrazyGreek80 2 ай бұрын
Great vid as always but what did the world do before front cameras?🤣🤣🤣
@ZombieSalesman
@ZombieSalesman 4 ай бұрын
Was really hoping for an update for this one like the Pilot. Maybe next year
@cbijames7
@cbijames7 4 ай бұрын
Nice video I really like the Honda passport. I have a Subaru crosstrek but would like to get a bigger SUV.
@briAction
@briAction 4 ай бұрын
50k out the door for one of these that isnt a PHEV seems really steep for the segment the Passport sits in. Its capable and great in a vacuum, but considering this price point could put you in a TRD off-road package, the passport loses a lot of its luster. Have fun with the cold weather on the way, finally an excuse to bust out the winter coat!
@drivingsports
@drivingsports 4 ай бұрын
Now predicting -9° F on the Mountain Test Course this weekend. 🥶
@ryanb8736
@ryanb8736 4 ай бұрын
4Runner is so lethargic and archaic driving on the road. Where 99 percent of people drive them. Great for rock crawling
@johneason6540
@johneason6540 4 ай бұрын
Hi Do you have a current review on the 2024 Honda pilot TRAILSPORT. im actually negotiating now to buy one. I would like to see your comments .
@bigbrownmab189
@bigbrownmab189 4 ай бұрын
How do you feel the honda trail sport AWD system compares to the grand cherokee quadra trac 1 system with terrain select??
@drivingsports
@drivingsports 4 ай бұрын
I like that the QT1 system is rear-biased and full-time, but the Honda system is more advanced in how it shifts power side-to-side making it a more flexible system. That said, watch our second video with the Passport dropping this weekend.
@jackrandom4893
@jackrandom4893 4 ай бұрын
Good video. Is there a way can do a non-turbo engine Subaru Outback that does not have dual x mode?
@drivingsports
@drivingsports 4 ай бұрын
If we had access to one we would. But it would Perform similar to the Forester with the 2.5 liter engine.
@davidwayne9982
@davidwayne9982 3 ай бұрын
I really like that-- but it looks a tad big for me.. I'm 67 and looking for something a tad smaller. BUT- that system looks VERY good.. and I like Honda quality.
@anthonyb755
@anthonyb755 4 ай бұрын
Way to Honda Passport Trailsport❤
@WilsonGomez
@WilsonGomez 4 ай бұрын
Passport did better then the Grand Highlander with more snow.
@williamgatling3205
@williamgatling3205 4 ай бұрын
Chicken Point Trail AZ is the new standard that must be met.
@devilslide01
@devilslide01 4 ай бұрын
Any issues at all with the passport 4wd overheating? I’ve seen that happen on a few other channels
@drivingsports
@drivingsports 4 ай бұрын
We have another video coming out this weekend. That will answer your question.
@ryanb8736
@ryanb8736 4 ай бұрын
Honda has oversensitive sensors so they don’t overheat. This forces people to back off. Acura is same way. This is why you can’t hold gears too. Honda wants safety and reliability. Even the Type S MDX is neutered with over sensitive sensors.
@ryanb8736
@ryanb8736 4 ай бұрын
Watch JonDZ videos on his passport. He takes it through very rough terrains and no issues. He knows more about this system. He’s got a lift and all protection underneath. He’s more than confident in the system.
@mrjamesryan333
@mrjamesryan333 4 ай бұрын
Would like to see you rank their awd systems or rank their off road ability compared other vehicles. Maybe RAV4 hybrid is a 5 and the Jeep Wrangler Rubicon is a 10 and the Honda Passport is a ?
@wildbill23c
@wildbill23c 4 ай бұрын
A lot also depends on the driver's driving capability, which seems very lacking as of late in my area...a couple inches of snow, and well people that can't drive in good weather think they can drive in bad weather and clog up the roads with slide off's and wrecks.
@mrjamesryan333
@mrjamesryan333 4 ай бұрын
Yeah I know it’s driver skill and tires, always hear that for ranking. You can say the same for 0-60 and quarter mile times. When asking for rankings they are asking “all things (other variables) equal how do they (awd systems in this case) compare.
@remzikoyuncu08
@remzikoyuncu08 4 ай бұрын
Arabaların iç renkleri ve ön göğüsleri ne zaman siyah haricinde olacak
@AJSparacio413
@AJSparacio413 4 ай бұрын
Looking at this or an Outback. How does Honda’s AWD system compare to Subaru’s Symmetrical AWD?
@redcapote4760
@redcapote4760 3 ай бұрын
Honda’s is better.
@sansinutube
@sansinutube 4 ай бұрын
I am trying to decide between the Honda Pilot Trailsport, and the Subaru Ascent, for a Canadian road trip. Any comparison, with specific focus on snow driving, would be very helpful.
@JSchwizle
@JSchwizle 4 ай бұрын
Avoid the CVT
@LatersOnTheMenjay.
@LatersOnTheMenjay. 4 ай бұрын
@Sansintube as someone who likes Subaru I agree with JSchwizle - CVT's suck the fun out of driving and even though Subaru's are great snow-vehicles in general, Honda has an excellent AWD system as well and their V6's are peppy and fun. I'd go for the Trailsport.
@williamgatling3205
@williamgatling3205 4 ай бұрын
I bought the 2024 TS Pilot in Sky Blue. It is a head turner. The top view camera and sensors sold me. The front camera might seem silly, but if you are topping a hill crest it will let you see if there is dirt or air in front of the car. The magic auto dimming headlight are phenomenal and switch just before you would. It rides super quiet. This is counter intuitive, but I usually drive, so I set my wife's phone as primary. If she isn't in the car, mine connects. By making her primary, she is in charge of navigation , rerouting, and tunes while I drive.
@knightryder3757
@knightryder3757 4 ай бұрын
Don't listen to the naysayers until you try it for yourself. I've owned many many vehicles over the decades, and my current CVT powered CrossTrek is by far the best and smoothest transmission I've ever driven. Want 'fun'? Engage the paddle shifters and you'll get all the fun you seek.
@xyz-md2mv
@xyz-md2mv 4 ай бұрын
I would go for Honda Pilot. Subaru owner here.
@JimiMiki
@JimiMiki 4 ай бұрын
hey Ryan, what kind of snow boots do you wear?
@drivingsports
@drivingsports 4 ай бұрын
In this video I’m wearing Helly Hansen Arctic Patrol boots.
@tallll70
@tallll70 4 ай бұрын
I still wish Honda would include mid and rear clutch buttons like Bronco Sport has, maybe it's not needed again roller test would show if ivtm4 aggressivity improved as their older versions were doing way too many spins before it actually use the clutch and move
@347PJS
@347PJS 4 ай бұрын
I would love to see a toyata sequoia in the snow
@thomaskrutulis2289
@thomaskrutulis2289 4 ай бұрын
I’d like to see what an sq5 with factory air ride w proper off-road wheels n tires could do. Anyone build a mild softlander out of one of those? Quattro is amazing down here in Fl sand n rain n mud.
@ryanb8736
@ryanb8736 4 ай бұрын
Audi makes a superb AWD system. I always wanted to lift one. SQ5 would be a beast.
@TheM3csl
@TheM3csl 4 ай бұрын
When in doubt, throttle out.😂
@jakes5530
@jakes5530 4 ай бұрын
Kinda wish you tested the Ex-l or Elite with the normal tires just to see how they perform. I'd expect this trailsport now on designated AT tires to perform excellent as they did
@nhlcfl7733
@nhlcfl7733 4 ай бұрын
Maybe Honda could have considered to step up to a Firestone Destination XT tire; a quiet, no fuel penalty sleeper tire based in my 2 years of experience in the highway and backcountry and mountain foothills of Alberta.
@sansin6250
@sansin6250 3 ай бұрын
Would you do the same deep snow test with the Pilot Trailsport?
@drivingsports
@drivingsports 3 ай бұрын
We have a request in for the Pilot Trailsport now that there's some good snow to drive in. No ETA yet though.
@Karmazov
@Karmazov 4 ай бұрын
Why don't you use low gears when going downhill ?
@fastams
@fastams 4 ай бұрын
any chance of a Pilot Trailsport snow review?
@drivingsports
@drivingsports 4 ай бұрын
We requested the Pilot again. Not sure if it will be available yet.
@vangthao2491
@vangthao2491 4 ай бұрын
3:58 you said "today is all about the Pilot Trailsport" when the video is about the Passport 😆
@drivingsports
@drivingsports 4 ай бұрын
Names are too similar!!
@sasharamirez2335
@sasharamirez2335 4 ай бұрын
"google honda passport torque shudder: 1.5 million results" ...has entered the chat
@LionRunner
@LionRunner 4 ай бұрын
I though emissions system problem is higher than transmission shudder. Interesting.... I bet transmission issues will be solved when it ditches the ZF9 to Honda 10 speed like the Pilot.
@shanerogers787
@shanerogers787 2 ай бұрын
They need to add hill decent control.
@allendavid4139
@allendavid4139 4 ай бұрын
Perhaps Honda could give you a long termer Pilot trail sport that would be interesting content although they wouldn’t let the tires be changed
@drivingsports
@drivingsports 4 ай бұрын
We requested one. They declined saying they didn’t have enough cars.
@jacklo325
@jacklo325 4 ай бұрын
Wait what? A $26k base HRV LX comes with hill descent. But this $46k passport "trail sport" doesn't even offer it as an option?
@JesusPerez-iv2ej
@JesusPerez-iv2ej 4 ай бұрын
I seriously considered this Honda to replace my aging XTerra but decided against it because it has a transversal engine with a timing belt needing replacement and manual valve adjustment . I do my own car maintenance and keep cars for 15 years so even though I liked it, it was not for me.
@TBISYTC
@TBISYTC 4 ай бұрын
I hope Honda doesn't screw this up by making it bigger and adding third row seats unnecessarily. Instead, Remove the silly button gear shifter and add a turbo 4 cylinder engine with similar power as the v6 engine; upgrade the transmission cooling setup.
@Kusaland_CEO
@Kusaland_CEO 4 ай бұрын
Please make a video on the face-lifted Subaru Ascent offroad. Plsplsplspls
@drivingsports
@drivingsports 4 ай бұрын
Shot it today. 👍🏼
@Kusaland_CEO
@Kusaland_CEO 4 ай бұрын
@@drivingsports LETSGO!
@kohort1
@kohort1 4 ай бұрын
So not having the winter rating but still M+S... Does it mean the rubber becomes too hard? Ie good enough on snow but not so much on ice?
@drivingsports
@drivingsports 4 ай бұрын
Yes
@Cornbread-gi6kt
@Cornbread-gi6kt 3 ай бұрын
The prior last year’s model was so good there really wasn’t much of anything to change nor fix. And simply spending $800 for a new set of ‘all terrain’ is all that’s needed if one was interested in a tad more of off-road driving and saving money other than buying the 2024 Passport. 🤷🏼🤔
@muhammadharits3237
@muhammadharits3237 4 ай бұрын
Better than sequoia, palisade, telluride and Nissan Pathfinder??
@ryanb8736
@ryanb8736 4 ай бұрын
My problem with Sequoia is it’s cheap for and finish. Interior rattles a lot. Cheap plastic. Especially when all optioned out at 80k.
@davesomera7850
@davesomera7850 4 ай бұрын
Hey Ryan good video, you should try getting your hands on the Ford Maverick Tremor.
@drivingsports
@drivingsports 4 ай бұрын
We have put in multiple requests. Ford hasn’t sent one to the PNW. We only had an early Maverick review because we bought one. They seem to cater to Detroit and Los Angeles publications.
@carl4737
@carl4737 4 ай бұрын
50k is insane
@ryanb8736
@ryanb8736 4 ай бұрын
Inflation. Everyone in America voted for it.
@shawnh.7141
@shawnh.7141 13 сағат бұрын
Nice vehicle, but at the price point I’m going Nissan Pathfinder Rock Creek for a 3rd row option.
@Mizernytskyi
@Mizernytskyi 3 ай бұрын
❤VOLVO's Off Road mode only)
@Revenant_Knight
@Revenant_Knight 4 ай бұрын
Did a little Clarkson slip through there in the end? LOL
@drivingsports
@drivingsports 4 ай бұрын
😂
@knightrider316
@knightrider316 4 ай бұрын
Did I miss the pilot off road review?
@drivingsports
@drivingsports 4 ай бұрын
Yup. We did two of them. This is the most recent: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hbuqia2K06vKhmw.htmlsi=YRsqv9_aV4DUPDBR
@sunnyta619
@sunnyta619 2 ай бұрын
No hill descent control???
@drivingsports
@drivingsports 2 ай бұрын
Correct
@geosh10
@geosh10 4 ай бұрын
Dated!
@trailrunnah8886
@trailrunnah8886 4 ай бұрын
This performed well, but I see zero reason to buy this vehicle until it's refreshed. The Pilot just looks so much nicer, and if I recall correctly, it's about the same price. I will say those General tires look fantastic, I don't see them on the General site, I wonder if the only reason they're not 3 peak rated is because they're an OEM only offering? I think that's the case with the Toyota Falken AT3s as well.
@kubi0461
@kubi0461 4 ай бұрын
The Pilot Trailsport is $4000+ more than. Passport Trailsport. Plus the Passport feels more nimble while not really losing much space vs the Pilot. I would agree though in that I like the new Pilot design and I’d consider waiting to see if the 25 Passport gets a new design.
@trailrunnah8886
@trailrunnah8886 4 ай бұрын
@@kubi0461 I looked it up and you're correct. For some reason I was thinking the Pilot TS started at 46k, which was the as-tested price of this Passport. I haven't driven either, so I'll take your word about nimbleness. Personally, while I don't need a 3rd row, I'd prefer the larger cargo area of the Pilot. I often sleep in my 4Runner when camping, the Passport looks a tad short for that.
@ThisisPhillip
@ThisisPhillip 4 ай бұрын
Man I got a Acura mdx sh-awd instead of one of these , dagnabbit !
@atmartens
@atmartens 4 ай бұрын
A few things… 1: I love that Honda has a V6, and the VTM4 System without a doubt is one of the best AWD systems. The only downfall is the terrible gas mileage. 2: I really wanted to get a Passport however the exterior design, especially the rear, is incredibly boring. The new Pilot looks much better and until they do a true new generation, it’s just a generic design SUV. Same with the interior. It’s very bland. I really wanted to like it. 3: I’m honestly a little worried they may not do another generation. There’s not a lot of anything out there about a new Ridgeline or Passport. If that’s the case then getting a Pilot would only make sense since it’s got a lot of the better upgrades and updates.
@LionRunner
@LionRunner 4 ай бұрын
I'm pretty sure it will give good mpg in cruising situations since it has cylinder deactivation / run on just 3 cylinders.
@atmartens
@atmartens 4 ай бұрын
@@LionRunner my family had one and it at best would only get 22-23. Which is right on EPA average.
@notyou5703
@notyou5703 4 ай бұрын
No way this car costs 47k. It would be a great option if it was 35-40k depending on options.
@redcapote4760
@redcapote4760 3 ай бұрын
It is seriously about $7-9k overpriced for the carryover tech it comes with.
@paulholterhaus7084
@paulholterhaus7084 3 ай бұрын
A set of Blizzaks would have doubled Your traction.......That is all I ever run on My unstoppable Forrester...Paul
@luperamos7307
@luperamos7307 3 ай бұрын
Why would people get the Passport over the Pilot though? What's the advantage?.
@skowmi5681
@skowmi5681 2 ай бұрын
The Passport fits in my garage but the Pilot doesn’t.
@compaholic83
@compaholic83 4 ай бұрын
Great review as always. I really want to like this product, but it's still plagued with a very unreliable 9ZF transmission. That thing needs to go. Add a little more ground clearance, a little better approach angle, and we have a serious off road contender here.
@ryanb8736
@ryanb8736 4 ай бұрын
Honda updated software for transmission.
@compaholic83
@compaholic83 4 ай бұрын
@@ryanb8736 I had that transmission for 4 years. Never again. Software won't do shit for it.
@floor5meal
@floor5meal 4 ай бұрын
I think if you lifted a little past the space saver in the back, you would have found a spare tire.
@drivingsports
@drivingsports 4 ай бұрын
It’s behind the cubby under the floor that we showed. We didn’t have a clear shot of it - but it is there.
@ravenstylea2
@ravenstylea2 4 ай бұрын
I wish Honda would make their more fuel efficient and affordable CRV as capable as their Passport so it could reach more people. From the many reviews of light off road testing I've seen, the CRV consistently had the lowest capability of all competitors in its class.
@kevinstarski1598
@kevinstarski1598 4 ай бұрын
I tend to believe it's done on purpose like that to force people into higher price brackets...also done by eliminating smaller sedans and so on....
@Mpompi315.
@Mpompi315. 4 ай бұрын
Subaru needs to give we the people the Ascent Wilderness to dominate this segment..
@robertblack6630
@robertblack6630 4 ай бұрын
The CVT will always keep it from dominating any segment.
@Mpompi315.
@Mpompi315. 4 ай бұрын
@@robertblack6630 all they did was slap all terrain tires on a passport different suspension with a couple of badges and called it a trail sport.. Subaru is lifted, better awd system, more ground clearance, different bumpers, underbody protection, water resistant seats, dual x mode with hill decent control…all for cheaper
@jeffr6280
@jeffr6280 4 ай бұрын
For almost 50k, Honda is doing their customers wrong by not including the better awd system, tires and tech in the refresh.
@sizzlacalunji
@sizzlacalunji 4 ай бұрын
A mid cycle refresh usually just comes with a facelift, reduce issues from the assembly line (usually next to none), possibly an updated infotainment; just minor things IMO. All-new Passport should be coming out this year and then it should have the newer drivetrain, 12” screen etc.. Edit: made correction to Model name. Also in 2024 I wouldn’t look at the Passport until I see pricing on the 2025 and see what discounts will be out for this one.
@robertblack6630
@robertblack6630 4 ай бұрын
The Pilot is already out with with a completely updated drivetrain with new Ten speed auto
@Lionelrockz
@Lionelrockz 4 ай бұрын
Just get your self a Toyota, Sequoia TRD PRO, or 4runner TRD PRO bros! Much better for there price
@jeffr6280
@jeffr6280 4 ай бұрын
@@robertblack6630 My point being, there's no reason why they couldn't have included that in the 2 row Passport for what they're charging customers.
@adamnagel7436
@adamnagel7436 4 ай бұрын
​@@Lionelrockz the 4 runner starts $10K more and the sequoia starts at $63 and exceeds $80K depending on trim. They are not in the same categories or price ranges.
@andrewmalchow6505
@andrewmalchow6505 4 ай бұрын
The spare is under the back seat , left the trunk floor more
@drivingsports
@drivingsports 4 ай бұрын
We showed that. Just didn’t lift the under piece of plastic.
@MyBlitz7
@MyBlitz7 4 ай бұрын
I feel like the Passport is too similar to the Pilot (except somehow more expensive, less space, and worse mpg). I thought it was supposed to be a relatively small, offroad capable SUV closer to the Forester. Don’t really know why the Passport exists right now.
@OFFENSIVE-COFFEE
@OFFENSIVE-COFFEE 4 ай бұрын
it’s definitely weird, but I see them everywhere where I live so the market research Honda did must’ve been good 😂 I would love to see them really go for off roadiness in the refresh to compete with the outback wilderness
@xyz-md2mv
@xyz-md2mv 4 ай бұрын
You answered yourself. Forester.
@ryanb8736
@ryanb8736 4 ай бұрын
Problem with Subaru is CVT. Also not as solid as Honda.
@pahanin2480
@pahanin2480 4 ай бұрын
Thats a $900 car payment
@ryanb8736
@ryanb8736 4 ай бұрын
Pay cash. No payments.
@tinhinnh
@tinhinnh 4 ай бұрын
The back looks so bland. Putting big exhaust tips is not going to fix it.
@cheapercharlie
@cheapercharlie 4 ай бұрын
14:14 channeling his inner arnold schwarzenegger "powahhhhh" 😆
@ALMX5DP
@ALMX5DP 4 ай бұрын
I was thinking Jeremy Clarkson.
@grigoriostheodoropoulos9576
@grigoriostheodoropoulos9576 4 ай бұрын
I will get the pilot.
@moneyparhar
@moneyparhar 4 ай бұрын
Interior is from rental car
@williamgatling3205
@williamgatling3205 3 ай бұрын
Pilot Trailsport come standard with a trailer hitch and a 5000lb towing capacity. If you pay a few hundred dollars more, you can buy the trailer wiring that allows you to pull a trailer on the road. W T F was Honda thinking with this BS?
@drivingsports
@drivingsports 3 ай бұрын
The Pilot TS is a much better deal than the Passport.
@chibbyylol
@chibbyylol 4 ай бұрын
I'd imagine next generation would look like a baby Pilot
@darrenstibbard6773
@darrenstibbard6773 4 ай бұрын
Why do journalists focus so much on tires offered on vehicles? They are so easy to swap it really has no “value “ to a vehicle. I’ve never understood that.
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