55gr Full Metal Jacket shootout in .223 Remington! UPDATED 09/27/2018 - All links have been removed to comply with KZfaq content policies. www.patreon.com/reloading
Пікірлер: 223
@EndingTimes06 жыл бұрын
My favorite talking hand is back!
@christopheryniguez8256 жыл бұрын
Awesome data Johnny!!! Please keep the videos coming. Cant wait for the series. There's no one else on KZfaq who delivers reloading data and information to the quality that you do.Thanks.
@NavyChiefPa6 жыл бұрын
Have been waiting for this series, looking forward to the rest. Voting for 335, CFE 223, and AR Comp.
@kipwright1486 жыл бұрын
H335 and CFE 223 along with the Varget. I have never been interested in a fmj bullet however the price makes them attractive when loading for my AR.
@emski77456 жыл бұрын
Just started your beginning reloading series. Thanks for taking the time to make those, so nice to find that much information in one spot
@hendrix9232 жыл бұрын
These prices blow me away its tough to imagine being new to this. Feels like this was 50yrs ago. Thanks for the videos uve unknowingly been my reloading mentor.
@Tula1940_LB6 жыл бұрын
This channel made me find bobs bullets great great great bullets!
@homiegali6 жыл бұрын
Just got off work to this. Makes it a good day!
@nycreloader6 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed this video, makes it easy to see why we buy certain components. I’m a huge Hornady, bobs and Berry’s 55gr FMJBT as well. Thanks Johnny
@daviddale36246 жыл бұрын
I have probably shot as many Hornady 55 GR FMJBT with Cann as anybody on the planet. I have found 25.0 Grains of Reloder 15 or 25.0 Gns of BL-C (2) @ 2.220" to be as good as it gets. I do love Jason and Steve Hornady for these reasonably priced projectiles.
@1scottburns6 жыл бұрын
GREAT work. I really enjoy your videos
@wbpursell6 жыл бұрын
I like this format for this comparison.
@spoolnaround3 жыл бұрын
Not a really a fair comparison. Every projectile is going to react a bit differently and should each be worked up individually.
@BillMurray996 жыл бұрын
Glad to see you doing this series! I second the request for you to add the X-treme 55gr FMJ. I thought it was interesting to see how little the velocity dropped for the rounds that were loaded to maximum magazine length -- only 3 fps difference for the Everglades bullet (0.060" length change) and maximum difference of 20 fps for the Hornady bullet (0.050" length change).
@JAM4MORE6 жыл бұрын
Bill Murray Extreme vs Berrys 55gr. "Corrected Barnes to Berrys"
@jlc904ubc6 жыл бұрын
I really like this! Can't wait to see more! Thanks
@declay44mag326 жыл бұрын
Man I'm a new subscriber to your channel,but I sure do enjoy your videos. I also just set up a bolt gun in 223 and I'm. Learning a lot from those videos. Keep it up!!!
@OzarkSpirit6 жыл бұрын
CFE 223 @ 26.1g I have found the Winchester 1500ct on sale several times at $.09 each and you get a 30cal can with them. FYI
@Oregun6 жыл бұрын
Ozark Spirit What OAL? Thanks!
@OzarkSpirit6 жыл бұрын
texpat not sure I understand. The Winchester special I was referring to is for 1500 55grain soft point bullets. They are great for plinkers and small game hunting. Plus you get a 30cal ammo can with them.
@Oregun6 жыл бұрын
Sorry, I was asking what was the overall cartridge length with the "CFE 223 @26.1g". Thanks!
@tc300mag16 жыл бұрын
Where did you find that deal at ?
@OzarkSpirit6 жыл бұрын
Rob D watch the sales on midway USA
@sogyseal79626 жыл бұрын
Quickload says IMR3031 and Ar Comp are the two best at magazine length for the 55gr hornady while Ramshot Tac would only be 85.8% burnt out of an 18" barrel. Edit: Ar Comp would probably be the best of the 2 at 99.8% burn, 500psi less at the muzzle, and roughly 103% case fill.
@awesomerene68146 жыл бұрын
Great video...do more like this in the Future can’t wait for the H335 !!!
@ewetho6 жыл бұрын
Come on this is a reloading channel..some token reloading video is a must! Lol
@FredSpeed36 жыл бұрын
I have good luck with 27,9gr of CFE 223, Federal match AR primers, 2.245 OAL
@quick4756 жыл бұрын
AR-Comp and TAC would be great.
@plow91336 жыл бұрын
My pet load is CFE223 Hornady 55gr 26.1 powder, .623in at 100 years, my AR really likes CFE223 and if i use Sierra Blitz king 55gr with CFE223 I am getting .493in and believe it or not I am using a $80 barrel from Sanders Armory corp .com, but with factory ammo 3 in groups
@EndingTimes06 жыл бұрын
Watching these is like watching a hockey game for me. When you get a flyer its like the other team scored and like "AHHHH shit.... ". Especially the RMR since Ive got a bunch of those. And the hornady I have a few ladders loaded waiting for spring.
@mrmidnight326 жыл бұрын
Hornady 55gr + H335 + 25.0gr + 16" guns is great. For some reason my off the shelf Troy complete 16" melonite upper shoots like a match rifle with this load. 1/2 MOA or less out to 300 yards.
@saltcreekammo6 жыл бұрын
CK_32 I've had great accuracy with any 55 grain bullet with 25-25.5 grains H335 @2.230 with a velocity of 3000-3100 FPS
@ericbeck64176 жыл бұрын
Johnny another great video. Best load for that Hornady I’ve found is 25.5gr of Varget and seating the bullet half way on the cannelure.
@reelconquest20636 жыл бұрын
Looks to be a great series!
@spyderxtra7776 жыл бұрын
My favorite .223 powders : imr8208, RL15, cfe223.... probably in that order, although I have really only used the cfe for “plinking” ammo loaded on a progressive press (meters great) so maybe I didn’t give it enough of a chance
@ZERO_420696 жыл бұрын
Ive shot thousands of the Hornady 55 gr fmj. Its a great bullet for the price
@psykoklown8746 жыл бұрын
I may be a bit biased here, but the cheapest choice for you would be to break out those Corbin dies you were given and make them for a fraction of a cent each. On the flip side of that bias, you have a seriously awesome channel, and I always learn a lot from you.
@DrewWhitehead6 жыл бұрын
N133 did a pretty damn good job with those 55 sierras a while back.
@VinnyMIlo6 жыл бұрын
For what it's worth, I did sort 1000 55gr bullets from both RMR and Hornady (FMJ for the RMR, SP for the Hornady). The consistency for the Hornady was extremely good (+/- 0.1gr for the most part). RMR was a bit disappointing: Lower than 55.2gr: 5.8% 55.2gr: 10.5% 55.3gr: 13.3% 55.4gr: 14.2% 55.5gr: 15.4% 55.6gr: 26.8% 55.7gr: 8.2% Greater than 55.7gr: 5.8% Hoping to see you come up with a good load for them! Keep up the great videos
@andymeresse69306 жыл бұрын
Excellent, as usual. I live in Florida, and had never heard of Everglades. Thanks for the info!
@digitaldaydream4206 жыл бұрын
BLC-2 Please sir! 25.5 grains behind everglades v2s is my go to load. You rock btw...
@davidpeterson61476 жыл бұрын
H335@25 to 25.2 grains seems to be a good load. Some people go much hotter but this seems to be an accuracy node.
@ewetho6 жыл бұрын
David Peterson I run 25.1-25.3 based on testing here seems to shoot 1.25 MOA or less no tuning.
@DuckmanH6 жыл бұрын
25gr in my barrel flattens primers pretty good. I have settled on 24.8 with OAL of 2.26, Lake City brass, Hornady bullets. Half inch 5 shot groups if I don’t screw it up.
@davidpeterson61476 жыл бұрын
@DuckmanH, what chamber do you have?
@tinncan6 жыл бұрын
I would love to see 25gr loads on these bullets... I just bought 1k of hornady fmj and 1k rmr fmj after running out of my minute capable hornady soft points that didn't seat as easily as the boat tail versions on my progressive press... Keep up the good work...
@THutch5566 жыл бұрын
Great series JRB. Very interesting results with the Bobs bullets. In your previous video with Bobs using 26.0 grains of Varget you shot a .78” group and a .58” group with the same load you shot in this video. I have shot plenty of Bobs bullets with 26 grains of Varget with LC brass and also have had the inconsistencies that you show with Bobs. I have shot many good groups with that load and many that open up with flyers. I read an individuals comment in one of your videos a while back that once he sorted his Bobs bullets with a bullet comparator his groups became consistent, and that there was a noticeable difference after sorting them with a bullet comparator. I have not checked or tried this method yet with the Bobs bullets, but it may be worth a look. I know I have tried to sort them by weight and they were very consistent in the weight department and that didn’t help at all. Would have loved to see the 55 grain Sierra blitzking up here, that bullet shoots great in everything I own. Great series JRB.
@scatwater6 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed that and I am looking forward to the series. I have had good success with IMR4895 and Hornady bullets. I would like to see that powder if you have any and CFE.223 but I know you have used CFE.223 is other videos. Man, I was really enjoying the Nosler and scared my family when I saw the flyer and shouted out. lol, enjoy your channel.
@joshjohnson16536 жыл бұрын
scott atwater CFE223 has to be done!
@GunFunZS6 жыл бұрын
great series idea.
@jasonfife27516 жыл бұрын
In the Bob’s series you had very good accuracy with IMR3031, I’d keep rolling with that. Or the popular H335 load everyone uses. Also, if you’re keeping score... longer videos. Keep up the great work!!
@WestDesertShooter6 жыл бұрын
This is great stuff! I think the Hornady for both would be my pick. It shot three into the same hole and shot the best group on the second. Interesting the RMR has the highest velocity for both groups. Just my interpretation, great video JRB!
@Wmbhill6 жыл бұрын
I use 25.2 gains of Tac with #41 primers @ 2.215” in several different cases. It’s lights out with LC’s in 4 different barrels. I’d like to see Benchmark tested. Keep on trucking JRB, love your channel.
@jjs8116 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing
@reloadingwithjohnnyray-bac87756 жыл бұрын
Great video.
@spikesefcovic67376 жыл бұрын
JRB Great test! I have been thinking of trying different lengths ! Accurate 2520 would be my next powder!
@lesterthornton38596 жыл бұрын
Cfe 223
@khatuntsovmikhail62236 жыл бұрын
Один из дучших каналов по самокруту.
@IronAndDiesel6 жыл бұрын
W748 25-26.5 grains. 25 & 26 worked best out a M4orgery with 55 grain Hornady bullets. 26.5 is touching close to or at max load.
@tinncan6 жыл бұрын
Man, every time I check out a different reloading component you already have a video on it... 😁
@tinncan4 жыл бұрын
I ended up using the RMR stuff as mass filler in the stock of my 300win mag... Garbage bullet...
@theriddleballcoach6 жыл бұрын
XBR 8208
@heytonyman6 жыл бұрын
H4895!
@jh58696 жыл бұрын
How about 2 extremes CFE223 and IMR 4064?
@chrisgray62276 жыл бұрын
I would like to see some berrys FMJs. It's a very popular plinking round. As far as powders the Imr 3031 would be great to see.
@duffball22996 жыл бұрын
X-terminator has my vote, always available near me and fairly cheap. Love this idea for the series, Hornady 55gr and 26.1gr of varget is my go to 223 load. I would be interested to see how 5744 works for you too, or any other powders that have a lower case fill.
@yankfromthehills016 жыл бұрын
Benchmark 26.3 coal 2.215 everglades 55 v2 lc brass cci 450 best group 16 inch yhm chrome molly pet load .4-.5 moa SD 9
@dapro28486 жыл бұрын
Add 748 to your list of powders to try please. Thanks
@richardtibbetts50206 жыл бұрын
Alliant 10x, Accurate 2230, Ramshot Tac
@JaredKattner6 жыл бұрын
Really looking forward to this series man. I've shot all of these except the Lapuas with H335, CFE223, TAC, and Reloader 15. I average MOA performance from all of 'em. Hornadys seem to like ball powders out of my 18' Odin barrel. My best groups were with 24.8 grains of H335 at a little over 1/2 MOA (.57").
@richardkoresh59824 жыл бұрын
What Barrel are you shooting and what twist
@calebmarlowe93166 жыл бұрын
One question one comment: In the short groups, was the first shot in the Hornady group a cold-bore shot? If so my opinion is that the Hornady group may have been short-changed. The four remaining shots grouped nice and tight. Cold bore shots in my AR generally result in being about an inch or so off of the grouping. As for my comment I think many people are using h335 for their 55 grain FMJ, however given that IMR 3031 did so well in the previous 55 grain test I would like to see it across the board with these. Great videos thank you for posting.
@hardybirch36306 жыл бұрын
Very informative and interesting. I would like to see H335 powder used in the next video if possible. Thanks
@AkA-me-Kenny26 жыл бұрын
Great video! Question: Will you be coming to the "Great American Outdoor Sports Show" February 3 thru February 11, 2018 at Harrisburg, Pennsylvania?
@medichugh6 жыл бұрын
Great channel. Just a few thoughts. Seems like the shorts were throwing a little wider group. Could be due to the extra jump from ogive to the lands. May be that the closer to the lands you seat the better the accuracy gets. Also the crimp. Any thought whether crimp made a difference? Great vids......keep them coming! God bless America and all those who serve this great nation!
@luckycolt6 жыл бұрын
Great video, makes me want to play around with seating depths for my plinking rounds. My current load is the Hornady 55 fmj with 25.0 grs of 8208xbr seated at 2.230 and I also run Midsouth shooter supplies 62gr BTHP(around 10 cents each on sale) with 24.0 grs of 8208xbr seated at 2.245. I think I'll load some up tonight.
@Intrusive326 жыл бұрын
Johnny show us some reloading man!
@musicmanace06 жыл бұрын
!!!! IMR3031 !!!!
@NoTreadingOnMe6 жыл бұрын
I've been binge watching your videos - good stuff man. Appreciate all the time, effort, & money you put into getting these out to us. Quick question I haven't seen you answer yet (I'm a noob, sorry) - what software do you use to measure targets?
@CF-qz7ho6 жыл бұрын
Not to speak for JRB, but you can buy "On Target" here: ontargetshooting.com/
@jamesgbriley44716 жыл бұрын
Try some BLC-2 great powder for 5.56!👍
@czgunner9 ай бұрын
Missing your videos man!
@davedehetre6 жыл бұрын
I've noticed that varget seems to get a little wild when it gets compressed. I wonder if that was the difference here between the shorts and longs?
@kentfallin52966 жыл бұрын
H322! I’ve loaded some test rounds already with this powder and the Hornady 55gr FMJBT. I just haven’t found the time to shoot the yet.
@joeypgentilegmail6 жыл бұрын
BLC-2
@harteverett6 жыл бұрын
Johnny it was told to me when accuracy testing a barrel needs cleaning before moving on to the next type bullet cause each bullet lays it's own deposit inside the barrel. When crossing them up you can't be sure of repeatable or true performance. Just something to think about
@MarkThomas-pf8ml6 жыл бұрын
Just for comparison, would it be to much trouble to test a few M193 loads along side your developed loads...? I might even be able to dig up some original L.C. M193 loads from way back when that I could send you...
@RegularGunGuy6 жыл бұрын
Cfe223
@terrysouthworth6 жыл бұрын
26.3gr of CFE 223
@oriewall6 жыл бұрын
I use CFE223 27.2 col 2.2 in FC cases, hornady 55gr sp flat base w/c, 3100fps under 1" groups.
@burnsm20126 жыл бұрын
Anyway to get the rifle set up posted in the video description. Or at least barrel and twist
@coloradodrew6 жыл бұрын
23 g of RL-10x or 23.8 of VV N-133 both have been great for me with the Hornady 55
@ditchdigger933 жыл бұрын
Varget gives 27.5 with a 55 grain bullet right on the can. They won't hold 27.5 grains. I load 27 and they shoot great. Hornaday 55 grain FMJ. 27 grains in the Speer nickel plated .223 cases I have. Once fired, fills them perfectly to the top. I get great accuracy and no signs of overpressure.
@meanman69926 жыл бұрын
I have always bought the 55gr FMJ BT W/C Hornady, I have been using Accurate 2015 powder? It's what I use... mostly because when I bought my supplies it was all I could find locally that would work :/
@Medmann486 жыл бұрын
If you go to Cabellas aiming to buy the Hornady 55G at $9.99 for a box of 100 & the shelf is empty don't give up. They also have 100 count bags of Winchester for $10.99 per 100 & they usually have those so it's not a wasted trip.
@retirednobaddays4566 жыл бұрын
My cheapest range round for my Colt LE6940 is COL=2.24", Hornady 55gr FMJ-BT ($.085), CFE223 27gr ($.08), S&B primer ($.025), misc range brass (no cost). I only shoot 5 shot groups at 100yd. Best group 0.58" worst group 2.6", average is 1.4". Most groups will be around 1.5" and have 3 rounds touching and the other 2 rounds will open up the group. The ave velocity is 2800fps. Reloading is done on a Hornady progressive press. I clean the gun about every 300 rounds. About 10 patches with with Sweet's will rid the barrel of copper and CLP on the bolt carrier keeps carbon to a minimum. Hope this helps someone.
@MCClownsnose6 жыл бұрын
Is the reload swiss rs 40 powder available in the u.s. ?? Could be an interesting alternative dont you think?
@notyouraveragejoe70936 жыл бұрын
SPOILER ALERT: "I have already shot theses bullets"... I hate it when he does this! Its like ruining the end of a good action movie (...and they all die). If you've already shot them in another clip, please don't tell us. Without knowing beforehand, it makes me me feel like I'm out at the range with you discovering the results with you for the first time. lol Appreciate all the hard work you put into the videos (thumbs up)
@ryanwilson5936 Жыл бұрын
I just had to be the 223 comment lol. Good stuff man!
@yott19506 жыл бұрын
What type of bipod are you using? I notice your rifle seems to recoil straight back instead of hopping.
@keithreutter42535 жыл бұрын
Have you given a thought that the 1&8 twist is to fast to stabilise a 55 grain bullet. Varmint guns like a remington bolt 700 used a 1 in 12 twist. I have several 1 in 9 twist guns that if i go under 3000fps shoot great. But with factory ammo or faster reloads the group opens up big time.
@tonyzhu4037 ай бұрын
Hi Johnny, would you be interested in looking at the Berry's FMJ 223 Bullet in the future? They are the most affordable offerings in my area at this time. From what I see, they shoot very well. Greetings from Canada.
@retirednobaddays4566 жыл бұрын
It appears that you are shooting in cold weather. Going from a cold barrel to a hot barrel will change you group size. Years ago I bought a Multimeter to use around the house and found that the temp probe has been useful when I shoot multiple groups as you have. I rubber band the probe on to the barrel and when I exceed a temp range I stop shooting until the barrel cools down.
@tim7of7176 жыл бұрын
Drawing your squares around the groups is nice, but what is the plus symbol representing?
@dylang2336 жыл бұрын
Will you do a test with some Hornady 55 gr spire points. I have had good luck with them.
@shakes00lude6 жыл бұрын
Good work man. I run a 55gn xtreme FMJ with Varget but have yet to find a load I'm impressed with. I've gotten some good groups but terrible SDs. Also, trying to bust out a bulk run of rounds with a compressed load is annoying as hell.
@Oregun6 жыл бұрын
I agree with you regarding the Xtreme 55Gr FMJ and Varget, haven't found a good load. Maybe Johnny can discover a good powder as I have about 1500 of them left. ;-) If not, they still go pew when you pull the trigger.
@randallbarnett7106 жыл бұрын
I have had excellent results with Bob's Bullets and AA2230.
@michaelvaldez29665 жыл бұрын
Great videos. Would like to see Benchmark powder.
@markahdz6 жыл бұрын
How much neck tension did you use for the lapua bullets ?
@loganwgriffith3 жыл бұрын
Possibility of human error? What would the size groups be if you threw out a flyer? That last Lapua group was interesting without the one that opened it up. I'm curious what the four shot group was without #5
@robinharris6771 Жыл бұрын
Varget is versatile,,,it will work, I find it shines with 69 gr bullets or (in 308) with 168s. In 5.56 with 60 gr bullets, Benchmark shines. With 55's,H-335 is a standard. BM is like Varget but a step quicker FWIW with the 75 gr Hornady Match BTHP shines with RE-15 for me.
@PreppinShootinLivin6 жыл бұрын
Everglades has been where I’ve been getting my bullets and I’ve been very happy...free shipping and fast delivery...just no complaints. A question though...why do you think the SD were so high?
@12pharro6 жыл бұрын
PreppinShootinLivin for 89 bucks, how can you go wrong!? I'd like to give their 62s a rip
@ewetho6 жыл бұрын
Simple Johnny.... Just use the best powders from the Bob's bullet testing first then...meander!
@georgeshorter1426 жыл бұрын
Does Hornady reference a different brass length, when they recommend that short OAL?
@kybuckbuster2 жыл бұрын
new to reloading what reloading manuals are best for 223 & 5.56 Thank You & God Bless
@noelrodriguez10206 жыл бұрын
Have you ever done any testing on crimp vs no crimp. The long OAL shot better here but was the no crimp a factor?
@louvkjr6 жыл бұрын
I have a Lee Hand Reloading Press. I didn't have the money for a big boy press yet. Now I am reloading my .40 S&W and .300 BLKOut with it because of watching you vids. You do great work and put out great content. I have a lot of fun seeing how low of a charge I can go with different bullet weights. So my Question is how do you know how far you can push on the high side of powder charge with out blowing your face off? Will the gun start to run bad?
@jeffhuntley29216 жыл бұрын
louvkjr. I had these same questions when I started reloading, not to long ago. I got most of my education off KZfaq and local gun shops. You should do google and KZfaq searches of “high pressure signs”. Flattened primers are the easiest to spot but there are others to look for. There’s a great shooting community on KZfaq to draw from and some day hopefully add too. Have fun and stay safe:)