246 mm MTB Rotor! - Sea Otter Expo 2023
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Жыл бұрынGalfer USA's 246mm MTB rotor is WAYYY overkill!
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@rayd. Жыл бұрын
15 years later: 28'' rotors
@omnicrop9175 Жыл бұрын
Why would we go back to rim brakes basically the same thing😅
@eternaloptimist2840 Жыл бұрын
@@omnicrop9175 I suspect that was his point.
@RealMTBAddict Жыл бұрын
@@omnicrop9175 brakes*
@omnicrop9175 Жыл бұрын
@@RealMTBAddict thank you never check my spelling tbh
@CaptainBreny Жыл бұрын
You mean 711 mm 😊
@christianholmstedt8770 Жыл бұрын
What's next in size? Rim brakes LOL.
@calebgonsalves2970 Жыл бұрын
Yeah go to your local MTB trail and spread that wisdom!
@andreashabeck1155 Жыл бұрын
Like Buell
@globetrotterbengaluru Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂 True. Rim brakes are the biggest and largest rotor.
@marklouieadame Жыл бұрын
We might end up on hydraulic rim brakes
@christianholmstedt8770 Жыл бұрын
@@marklouieadame Those were actually really good.
@tolgaakyay Жыл бұрын
We need 6 piston carbon ceramic Brembo brakes 😂
@unclejohn5012 Жыл бұрын
Hope prototyped 6 piston brakes. Unfortunately didnt make it to market.
@The_Real_JN Жыл бұрын
@@unclejohn5012 mono 6 ti's. You can buy them
@unclejohn5012 Жыл бұрын
@@The_Real_JN That's news to me!
@The_Real_JN Жыл бұрын
@@unclejohn5012 although you may be right, I'm not sure if they were released or just prototyped and somehow made their way to market
@almostclement4975 Жыл бұрын
But only if they’re available in red or yellow as standard
@fj80_gxl Жыл бұрын
I need to see someone put that on 24" wheels
@mrantone916 Жыл бұрын
I had those on my yz250! Very nice!!
@MaNNeRz91 Жыл бұрын
Theyre still making them bigger and keeping the pads the same size its hilarious 😆😆
@YeetxBoi 3 ай бұрын
Keeps em cool longer to prevent the brakes heating up too much and losing friction. Probably extreme downhill type gear
@MaNNeRz91 3 ай бұрын
@@YeetxBoi a wider pad wouldnt burn out though. You'd need less braking force. Making less heat. On a wider pad and wider disc surface that will dissipate heat faster.
@benzzoy 3 ай бұрын
@@YeetxBoi If you want to keep the rotor temps lower for the same energy dump, increase the mass of the rotors by keeping them solid and not skeletonized (ironically to keep the weight low).
@runar4993 2 ай бұрын
It's all about leverage and cooling surface, I could install this on my tandem.
@MaNNeRz91 2 ай бұрын
@@runar4993 leverage is pointless when it causes pads to wear quicker than anything. If the pads were bigger they would last a lot longer. I'm burning through pads at the moment from all the 40+mph riding I'm doing now my bikes electric
@demisexgodfromhell Жыл бұрын
New idea, brakes on the rim👍😅😅😅😅
@AndreasRavnestad Жыл бұрын
A huge rotor like this definitely has its use, especially on the rear wheel. Not necessarily for stopping power, but for thermals. I hope they provide adapters for the calipers so I don't have to stack them (;
@Alex-12381 Жыл бұрын
Exactly, I drag the rear brake a lot for a controlling speed, and that thing can heat up on some decents
@vinceking7878 Жыл бұрын
@@Alex-12381 It probably reduces modulation though. What about a semi or full metallic pad??
@Alex-12381 Жыл бұрын
@@vinceking7878 I use metallic pads in the rear already and they don't heat up much on most of the trails I ride. I could see modulation, or possible lack of, being a possible issue, but on the flip side it'll require less force at the lever
@vinceking7878 Жыл бұрын
@@Alex-12381 Interesting. I’m only a beginner mtber tbh 🤣. I’ve got shimano mt200 breaks with the stock resin pads, they are surprisingly good tbh; I’ve gone down a mountain with them a few times as well(I don’t weigh much and I’m on and off the breaks, and it wasn’t a long track). They still work fine.
@Alex-12381 Жыл бұрын
@@vinceking7878 Brakes are one of the first things you'll out grow as your riding improves :)
@jeanalex8992 Жыл бұрын
I have an E-MTB with a 1,500W Motor, Magura MT5e Hydraulic Brakes paired with 203mm Rotors front & back and I have never felt that I needed more braking power.. I feel like brakes like these only really make sense for maybe 2000W+ E-Bikes.. I've been a bit skeptical of the Bicycle Industry as of late, I feel like they just keep making something new or different to try and convince people to upgrade or buy another bike when they don't really need to lol..
@clarkjamesdigital Жыл бұрын
“Buying something they don’t need”- welcome to earth 😂
@eternaloptimist2840 Жыл бұрын
Might be useful as a drag brake on a loaded tandem in the Alps - if the chainstays clear the rotor.
@MotoMarvmtb Жыл бұрын
I'm just going to put my Harley Davidson rotors on my mtb.
@matthew_4589 Жыл бұрын
Best paired wit a shimano mt 200 for maximum braking power
@dantindley5181 Жыл бұрын
Or even better, promax mechanical brakes
@lowteeens Жыл бұрын
Or, hear me out, alhonga
@simonm1447 Жыл бұрын
MT 200s are not that bad (as long as you don't need 1 finger brakes), my XC has these and you can easily balance the bike on the front wheel, modulation and brake power is not that bad
@dantindley5181 Жыл бұрын
@@simonm1447 yea but easily burn out with any kind of speed
@simonm1447 Жыл бұрын
@@dantindley5181 I live in a hilly area. If they get warm (brake rotor yellow to blue, 270 to 300° C) they start to get some fading, but the pads always survived without damage. With this method you can even get rid of squeaking, if you had some contamination on the brake before
@exoticsoflt Жыл бұрын
Tell me which fork would actually fit a rotor this size since, as far as I know, the biggest rotors you can actually fit on an mtb fork are 223 mm.
@melwalshmtb9121 Жыл бұрын
You just run a bigger brake adapter with longer bolts
@loganjacobson2335 Жыл бұрын
@@melwalshmtb9121 forks list a max rotor size
@melwalshmtb9121 Жыл бұрын
@@loganjacobson2335 ah yeah fair enough. As far as I know, the Atherton's ran 240mm rotors on Fox 40s when they were still sponsored by Trickstuff so I presume triple crown forks can deal with bigger rotors since they have a stiffer chassis
@mohenriksen321 Жыл бұрын
@Mel Walsh MTB i didn't actually know that, thats mad, as a mechanic ive never seen more than a 203 for recommended max rotor size for forks ive fit, ive always understood that you 'could' go bigger but to think thats the go to for atherton racing is crazy
@douglascampbell4993 Жыл бұрын
Adapter plates supplied with the callipers.. same as every other disk set when you buy them.. 🤷♂️
@TikeMyson69 Жыл бұрын
Can't wait to see this on the Tour de France.
@everyhandletaken Жыл бұрын
My Brembos are sooooo aero right now
@alexanderclifton3385 Жыл бұрын
The problem with big rotors is they tend to bend more easily which then makes them randomly rub on your disks more frequently
@Snarf_Le_Wombat Жыл бұрын
Rotors rub the pads you mean correct?
@mcspikesky Жыл бұрын
@@Snarf_Le_Wombat nah definitely means discs
@Snarf_Le_Wombat Жыл бұрын
@@mcspikesky what disc lol?
@danijelgasparic3658 Жыл бұрын
@@Snarf_Le_Wombat I think these people don't know rhe difference between the disc and the pad
@Snarf_Le_Wombat Жыл бұрын
@@danijelgasparic3658 Apparently 😵💫
@Andrew_Carr Жыл бұрын
You should put that rotor on your 14" toddler bike with the hydraulic disk brakes 😂
@kevinportilla9320 11 ай бұрын
With some shimano breaks 😂😂😂 you never know when you would get some OTB air 😂😂😂
@arjundhingra4243 Жыл бұрын
Damn I should upgrade to that from my 160 2 pots
@taz800 Жыл бұрын
Now, I only need to find a fork spec'd for these...
@Bemoderso 11 ай бұрын
Nothing a few centimeters of spacers couldn‘t handle.
@robertmcfadyen9156 Жыл бұрын
I have made a 280mm one for an in - law's Merida . I made special brackets and the fit is good with no unwanted rubbing .
@vilabikeracingteam7192 Жыл бұрын
To be precise, it is made in Spain by the parent company Galfer in Barcelona
@symmetricon1982 Жыл бұрын
Imagine the 60mm spacer on a Fox 38 for that
@JonasSahlstrom1 Жыл бұрын
What kind of adapters do you need for the brake calipers?
@Happy_Biker Жыл бұрын
Big ones
@ferguson8143 7 ай бұрын
203 mm adaptor
@gavinking215 Жыл бұрын
Where u at I’m here to big fan!!
@rahu5467 Жыл бұрын
love the part where he tells the difference as to why i should "get one of these"
@HaywardFamilybuilding Жыл бұрын
Going to sea otter tomorrow. Hopefully we will see Seth... for the kids sake😉
@ElmarBon Жыл бұрын
Make a comperison video on them!
@bobbrereton4785 10 ай бұрын
I’m gonna toss my rope and anchor system for this beauty.
@HEBEJEBE Жыл бұрын
Got a set for my E-bike :D Still haven't finished the build though..
@BerserkerNick Жыл бұрын
Just ordered a 246mm for the front and a 223mm for the rear
@mtbmagnus9241 Жыл бұрын
They bend very easily
@vojvoda9060 Жыл бұрын
🤦🏻♂️
@FoilPowell Жыл бұрын
What fork are you running?
@BerserkerNick Жыл бұрын
@@FoilPowell rockshox domain
@dantindley5181 Жыл бұрын
We're slowly going back to rim brakes
@uniworkhorse Жыл бұрын
LOL actually
@dantindley5181 Жыл бұрын
@@uniworkhorse were like 100mm away from being half way back to 26 inch rim brakes
@HolmesHobbies Жыл бұрын
They make the brake mounts too?
@Mediarahan003 Жыл бұрын
They do. They make a 63mm post to post mount adapter.
@jerridstory2531 2 ай бұрын
Stacks on stacks, of adapters 😮
@dirtroadie4642 2 ай бұрын
Galfer makes a surprisingly good rotor and pad. It’ll make your stock sram brakes feel even better.
@csn583 10 ай бұрын
The evolution toward Buell continues...
@aidenfenoff Жыл бұрын
Wow that is huge never heard of them
@austinhodkin9483 Жыл бұрын
Awesome!! Great videos as always lately. Thank you for inspiring me to get out and ride my bike!! Keep up the amazing work.👍
@jakebleazard3354 Жыл бұрын
Not happy till I get 300’s
@austinhodkin9483 Жыл бұрын
@@jakebleazard3354 🤣🤣
@austinhodkin9483 Жыл бұрын
@@jakebleazard3354 That would be awesome!
@_Zane__ Жыл бұрын
Someone should make brakes that actually use the rim as the braking surface, that'll be 622mm! Someone should make those.. they could call them rim brakes!
@michael61985 Жыл бұрын
That's flipping crazy
@dewindoethdwl2798 5 ай бұрын
We’ll be back to rim brakes soon😂
@m06t135 Жыл бұрын
Funny 246 u got it man
@mozezcen-valley7555 Жыл бұрын
Cool
@deniahmetaj Жыл бұрын
Front forks should have dual rotors like moto. Brake manufacturers should work on that in terms of innovation
@simonm1447 Жыл бұрын
Tektro Auriga Twin already has 2 calipers on one lever
@fietsenfixer8359 2 ай бұрын
In the netherlands we have them on some bikes
@LaurentiusTriarius 3 ай бұрын
I had issues with 180mm galfer waves being always out of wack. I can't imagine the pain these are... You get 1$ for every meter they stay true 😂
@RaptorV1USA 7 ай бұрын
Finally some one who made a bigger rotor than the 225 mm floater in my Hope Mono6Ti caliper........ thats 19 years old......19. PS. Running the 203mm galfer wave rotors..on heckler ebike.. they stop well but feel like shit....205mm hope floaters coming. Just run HOPE.
@danhart2411 Жыл бұрын
Well if you think about it actually makes since having a 246 on 29er vs having a 180 or 203 on a 29er with a 225+ guy which is going stop him faster. I know I'm around 270 and my 203 rotors are really pushing there limits at times.
@blazed85 Жыл бұрын
160mm front, 246mm rear 😎
@rohanjs. Жыл бұрын
Imagine that on a 16 inch kids bike 😂
@RiadRides Жыл бұрын
i'm pretty sure we are going to see that on his channel soon 😂
@tommays56 11 ай бұрын
I do gravel with a 3 speed Coaster Brake Beach Cruiser 🎉
@jason-dy5ou 10 ай бұрын
Galfer is the best rotor ever
@liamleech4748 Жыл бұрын
Ya definitely putting that on the front of my bike with hydraulics😂😂
@rizqirizaldo Жыл бұрын
At this point you just use the 320mm disc for motorcycle with dual discs configuration
@OmniTierra 3 ай бұрын
What’s the plan for the adapter 🤔.
@davidsmtb Жыл бұрын
I though my 220 were but thoes are something else !!!
@downhilljedi Жыл бұрын
Where do you get the caliper spacers to make those work?
@lilblaster22 10 ай бұрын
Oh' for sure I would love a 25 lb rotor on my bike. Heck, make it 2😮
@gymkhanadog 10 ай бұрын
When you need to stop, you chose Galfer.
@cccpkingu Жыл бұрын
~1954 mm of brake-track on a 622/700c wheel. ~776 mm of brake-track on a 247 mm disc.
@heatshield Жыл бұрын
It’ll be neat when they make them the size of the rim then just switch back to using the rim again.
@markskapyak2929 2 ай бұрын
Finally ! A way to totally torque out your spokes ! ping. ping. ping...
@Tony-nm9qn Жыл бұрын
now go and put a 246mm rotor on a 24 rim, better be a Rinģle Double Track:))
@migram4190 2 ай бұрын
They are slowly evolving into vbrakes 🤣🤣
@drill_fiend1097 8 ай бұрын
If rotors are going bigger like this we might go back to rim brakes. How about more pistons, wider pad area or dual rotors like motorcycles do?
@SurlyRider2019 Жыл бұрын
Wave rotor also makes the 246mm rotor along with a few other companies
@aaronburela432 Жыл бұрын
My dad and all his buddies run them on ebikes.
@PureGonzo Жыл бұрын
Going back to rim brakes😏.
@sasquatchhimself Жыл бұрын
I would think these would lock up way too easy
@botocles 3 ай бұрын
Let's see the mount adapter
@zivenposner1646 Жыл бұрын
Hey Seth! Will you be at Sea Otter on Sunday?
@FoilPowell Жыл бұрын
Post mount removal tool
@user-mf8gg6nz4m 3 ай бұрын
I wonder what stopping power you get with that and a magura 4 piston or hope 4 piston?
@darrinkulyk9560 4 ай бұрын
I Run 223s On my DH Bike with Saints 😎
@UcranianoUKR 10 ай бұрын
Hydraulic v-brakes will be making a comeback
@craiggilchrist6285 10 ай бұрын
Think next time I need rotors ill go to oreilly get car rotor🤷♂️
@The-big-remo Жыл бұрын
You should travel to Australia
@thanasimamais320 Жыл бұрын
The imagine how heavy that would make your wheel
@Floridaman457 3 ай бұрын
Eventually someone will decide to offer a wider pad and disc with may more contact area
@markskapyak2929 2 ай бұрын
at a certsin point, we are basically back to rim breaks. wich are superior...
@briandumper3781 Жыл бұрын
How do you relocate the caliper?
@porroco 11 ай бұрын
Just leave them for ebikes users my yeti 160e came with 200 rear now it comes with 220 rear and front, prob the 246 on front with 220 rear is the thing
@chrisdaigle5410 11 ай бұрын
Santana tandems makes a 10 inch rotor.
@YouTubeOdyssey 8 ай бұрын
Who makes the best brake pads? I got an ebike with hydraulics. The pads are square with a hole and a hook.
@Vivendocadadia Жыл бұрын
These are for e-MX I think
@sonofawil 10 ай бұрын
Dang! The calliper must be on stilts.
@jankelar6714 Жыл бұрын
Do companies make adapters for their calipers to account for that? It was a pain dealing with that on a supermoto conversion.
@ThalassTKynn Жыл бұрын
Almost might as well use rim brakes 😂
@benlee1774 Жыл бұрын
What’s the point even? Regular sized brakes can lock up a wheel just fine and I doubt they’re getting hot enough to warrant all that extra material being added.
@tyhill9714 Жыл бұрын
Let’s see the adapter to mount the caliper. Must be half way up the lower leg.
@searchingseekanddestroy4053 Жыл бұрын
Ebike +200- 250lb rider to stop means 203-250mm rotor. But can regular hubs hold 250mm rotor?
@macroglossumstellatarum3068 Жыл бұрын
Do they make the adapter as well?
@brentmagerowski7886 Жыл бұрын
How much downhill are you doing ? holy cow
@hoangduc9281 2 ай бұрын
I can’t see it in web of Galfer
@Abagofweed420 Жыл бұрын
Can you please tell my friend that he does not need 4 piston calipers and 200mm rotors in the prairies? Hes building a hardtail and he wants that for brakes lol...
@gopro_vlogs Жыл бұрын
dam bro that's fkn crazy massiveI thought 223 rotors where big
@gur262 11 ай бұрын
Rim_disc brakes then. Like a Buell motorcycle.
@yeahnahyeahnah2160 4 ай бұрын
What’s next, 29”? Oh wait that’s rim brakes 🧐
@rico8089 Жыл бұрын
dose it come with the 43mm offset
@chrissahagun4803 Жыл бұрын
Where would I get a bracket adapter for that tho lol
@everyhandletaken Жыл бұрын
Steel merchant yard
@peterjames808 Жыл бұрын
If you want to make the rotor as large as possible then why not just use the wheel rim as a combined rim and rotor. You could even implement some sort of u or v cable routing to clear the tyres.
Жыл бұрын
I would like some round, straight rotors. No wavey-wavey pieces of crap that feel like the ABS is kicking in my levers... And where did the 185mm rotors disappeared?
@LeviAirRifleChronicles Жыл бұрын
But .... But .... Why ?
@melwalshmtb9121 Жыл бұрын
Circumference is more effective at slowing you down than a bigger caliper, and it's cheaper to swap out a rotor than buy brand new breaks
@dantindley5181 Жыл бұрын
@@melwalshmtb9121 after 203, it hardly makes a difference. Certainly not a replacement for better brakes
@melwalshmtb9121 Жыл бұрын
@@dantindley5181 yeah all in relativity I suppose. As you say, 203 is perfectly sufficient for most people, myself included.
@dantindley5181 Жыл бұрын
@@melwalshmtb9121 yea i dont have the greatest brakes in the world. I have tektro orion 4 pot front, 2 pot rear, i had 185mm front and rear rotors and swapped for 203mm and it made precisely no noticeable difference. Im pretty sure when rotors get this big, its just an ego thing, as if to say "i have bigger rotors than you"
@melwalshmtb9121 Жыл бұрын
@@dantindley5181 yeah, rotor size only matters for the top dogs. Break cooling and modulation is improved with a bigger rotor, but I presume that's only noticeable at World Cup racer speeds
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