Gen 6 glocks will be the exact same as they are now….but with finger grooves

I think I’m in the minority of people that actually like the way Glocks look. Simple and utilitarian. Just like the gun itself.

hate to say it, but the echelon was probably everything that glock was thinking about doing for gen 6. the modular chassis, great trigger, great updated slide features, excellent optic system, good set of irons, i really love the echelon. i like how the grip frame profile is shaped like a gen 3 glock but with gen 5 ambi controls. the echelon is by far my favorite striker to day. hate to say it because its a springgfield, but i gotta give em credit. they nailed it, the gun just tracks flat and is a tack driver. they got the barrel lug unlock dwell timing down really good

I've never seen an m&p9 guy become a glock guy. I seen a ton of Glock guys become m&p guys. What is different. Grip ergonomics, sights, trigger (worse then/better now) and styling. Sights and trigger seem the easiest, grip ergonomic seems the highest risk/reward

Honestly I hope they keep the Glock aesthetic the same forever. The hilarious never changing square design is funny considering how well they continue to work decades later

1) Trigger update 2) Grip angle 3) Adjustable back straps and palm swells 4) Not shit sights 5) forward and rear serrations 6) an actual pic rail

The PDP trigger has more to do with the fully cocked striker and the P-99 type sear in the PDP than the trigger itself. It is the same reason why Canik is recognized as having great triggers because they use the P-99 sear.

Glocks look sleek compared to more modern designs. That being said a version that has modular frames would be interesting especially if they had modules with the classic Glock grip angle and then modules with a 1911 or a S&W M&P grip angle.

1: More grip texture 2: Remove thumb indentation on frame 3: Same trigger with update trigger shoe

One of Glock’s greatest strengths has always been the aftermarket. In the 6th Gen they should make the platform even easier for the extensive network of custom parts manufacturers to build on.

The Gen 6 should be the Gloccato. Put a bunch of cuts and such all over it for cool points, maybe etch something edgy on the slide like an Austrian flag with PERFECCATO emblazoned on it, an add-on magwell that would make Stormy Daniels blush, and then have an MSRP "starting at" $2,500. Have a comp that's like a $750 add-on and some other bits like that. Boom, profit.

I like the utilitarian look. But trigger, sights and ergonomics have got to be upgraded.

All good points! I think another essential item would be updating the MOS footprint to the RMR cut. Using the Shield RMS footprint is just silly.

I prefer the Gen3 G17 and will stick with it.

Raised my cereal spoon at "6th generation of perfection."

I fully agree. Frame like Shadow Systems, Trigger more like GPT, cooler and deeper slide serrations. 😊😊😊

Spot on as always.

I will riot if they change the simple lines and blocky aesthetic.

1. Get rid of the hump at the bottom of the grip and adopt the PDP/CZ P10 style rock in backstrap 2. Angle the serrations 3. Change the grip texture to be like grip tape, add texture to the thumb ledge 4. Change at least the trigger shoe, just swapping in a Ranger Proof Vex or Apex completely changes the feel 5. Put the Extended factory slide release on all Glocks 6. Rework the MOS system, it's just bad compared to everyone else's

I want a hammer-fired glock that takes glock mags.

Maybe this will be a controversial opinion, but - the glock being almost the same it always been has been a key to retaining its market value: backwards compatible, not overly expensive, reliable and ready to have any part of it replaced by extensive aftermarket & accessories offer. I believe the best value for customer is just that: options to upgrade it in any way you see fit, or just leave it as it is for a good purchase value (see a lots of discounts on them in Europe at least) Should it be up to me, having any kind of parallel tuned-up version would be a way to go. For me, Echelon just offerred way more for comparable price. But I can imagine people that play with these guns a lot themselves would still look for the cheapest base version.

on point !

The HK VP9 has the juice with the modularity of their grip

What I want to see in a gen 6 glock is a serialized chassis, an option to keep the current grip angle or to change it, an option for a thumb safety, ditch the MOS system for something better, a reinforced slide so it doesnt crack if you accidentally drop it on a hard surface while its disassembled from the frame, a reinforced dust cover to eliminate pig nose and an option for steel mags while still being compatible with current polymer mags. If that seems too much for glock, then maybe the glock can just turn into a sarsilmaz SAR 9 gen 3 😅 Oh boy, that gun feels so much better than a glock gen 5. But seriously, hope glock comes up with a competitive gen 6 for todays market.

some ideas to think about: 1. Make a gen 6 steel frame competition version. 2. Offer different factory recoil spring weights so we don't need to get aftermarket guide rods. 3. Factory adjustable iron sights with fiberoptic front sight on the competition model. 4. The new TriggerTech trigger will be a big improvement( completely different design, disconnector moved to the slide). Glock should use them or a similar design. 5. Make the Competition model with a 5inch barrel ( its stupid that IPSC does not allow the 34 in production and USPSA will be defunct as an org soon) 6. if not a steel frame, add a metal sleeve or insert in the magwell to reduce the wear from reloads. some guns ive seen look like it became a dog chew toy.

Anyone else notice when ever Ben's hands move off screen (any direction) it comes back into view with a different gun? Guns everywhere. Ole McBen had a gun...ei ei oh. With G34 here a Staccato P there, here PDP there P320, ole McBen had a gun...ei ei oh.

Glock is like the musket of pistols. With its plastic mags and 1990s look. When he held up the PDP and the Glock, all I saw was 2020s vs. 1990s. Like comparing an mp3 to a boombox 😂

Love my Gen 5 Glock 22. 40 still rocks.

Glock will never change because the aftermarket does all the work of innovation for them.

The 6th Generation Glock 17 should be a Polymer framed 2011. 1.Better trigger 2. Looks cool.

Happy 4th mate!!!!!

Everything you just mentioned, shadow systems offers standard, plus a fantastic optic mounting system.

Thanks for showing love to The Patrol!!!

I like shooting the Glock performance trigger shoe on a standard trigger bar. I also actually prefer a Gen 3 with a minus connector over a Gen 5.

That’s why I have 4 shadow systems pistols and 0 Glocks. Better aesthetics, able to change the grip angle and their direct optics mounting system. Hard to beat that overall package for a couple hundred more than a Glock

The slide stop design is one of the biggest hang-ups I've seen for newer shooters.

Gen 6 - add finger grooves. Gen 7 -remove finger grooves. Gen 8 -add finger grooves.

If they styled their slides like the Zev duty slide I think that would be sick

Gen 6 Glock - all models come MOS, extended slide lock/release, metal night sights. Obvi could come with a nicer trigger, if it doesn’t hurt their reliability.

Nice hat! 👍🏼

Agreed on those three things and I would add my tinfoil theory: I think gen6 will come with a similar concept of SIG's FCU so the frame and slide are not serialized and can be bought off the shelf. That will allow Glock to create different grip modules and crank those out like chocolate chip cookies to stoners. Additionally, the MOS should be re-worked, either by offering OEM metal plates that are as reliable (if not more) than the FCD plates OR by sticking to a single optic footprint like the RMR (just like SIG did with the RMSc).

the springfield echelon cures whats wrong with glock for those that dont like the glock grip angle, sights, etc, etc.

Platypus is Gen 6

Gun guys will debate for days about this n that…how bout get to work and train…thats what truly matters

I believe it the echelon would have been released by Glock (fitting Glock holsters and taking Glock mags) everyone would have lost their mind and praised them as genius perfection. They really just need to do something similar to that with their name and reliability.

I think the fact that Glock hasn't even bothered to fix the sights for decades now is proof they dgaf. It would be trivially easy for Glock to put halfway decent sights on their guns and they simply refused to do so.

One of Glock’s biggest ergonomic problems is their plastic mags are thicker than metal mags, which makes the grip that much thicker. If they want to make guns that don’t feel like a 2x4, they might have to move away from the thick plastic mags.

The amount of money I've spent to turn my Glocks into a stock M&P is ridiculous.

1911 grip angle and steel sights.

You basically described a Shadow Systems. I just bought a MR920 War Poet and love it. Modular backstraps changes the grip angle. Better trigger, better sights and more aggressive stippling and slide cuts. Plus they don't have that cheap ass place for the optics. The screws holding down my SRO go right through to the inside of the slide. Maybe Glock should buyout Shadow Systems.

6th generati9n of perfection made me laugh

Gen 6 Glocks clearly need to be steel frame SAO hammer fired guns.

IMO the single most important thing they need for gen 6 is to ditch the MOS system and do something similar to the Shadow Systems cut. All it takes is to reengineer the extractor spring plunger to be shorter.

Good video and thanks for sharing. The patent protection ending on gen 3's and the flood of copies should give the ideas. The Bul versions seem nearly perfect hope the lean into something like that for the 6th gen. I suspect they won't do much. Be well happy 4th!

I think it's hard to imagine that Glock doesn't switch to a P320-like chassis system. As much as I despise the P320, the chassis system has been a huge leap forward in innovation that's been widely copied. People love modifying their Glocks and I think that allowing them to switch entire grip modules (rather than being screwed if you fuck up while stippling the grip or something) is what the market is screaming for.

I want to see a move to metal mags or frames. Get rid of irons. Offer direct optic cuts. Better more aggressive texture and grip shape.

All I want is a nicer trigger and bring back the RTF(rough texture finish). I did buy the new version 2 Glock Performance Trigger and they really improved its very nice. Little pre-travel, wall, nice break.

IMO Glock's philosophy is making what most people consider good enough while making the cost of manufacturing as low as possible.

If I could whisper Dowager Glock’s ear: - Next Glock doesn’t need to be a chassis gun, but it should have a subframe the size of a magazine and completely removable wraparound grips. Could do palmswells and even grip angle options. Even a fingergroove frontstrap option. Think of the profit margin opportunity as an accessory. - Screw the current GPT. Don’t half-ass a comp trigger. Lean into it. It needs travel adjustments, or at least a way to cut down on zero-weight overtravel. Integrate it into a G6 “performance” line with comp triggers as a factory option. - MOS needs a redo. License one of the improved systems as a factory option, and while we’re at it, kill the rear slide dovetail. Integrate a rear sight into the cover plate. One less machining cut on all slides and another high profit margin accessory (different OEM rear sight cover plates-e.g., a target model, a suppressor height model for guns with high front sights).

Ben Simonson at Boresight Solutions does a razorback grip mod. If the came like that from the factory, I’d be one happy camper.

I’m a former Glock fanboy. I still like them, but the M&P made changes and did it right. I’m going the way of the M&P and not looking back.

a factory compensator offering would be nice

The Glock is the Jeep Wrangler of guns. You need to swap out all that perfection for your preference. My first was a glock (gen 3). I don't own it anymore, not going back to the brand.

Gen 6 should just be a foundations series Shadow Systems with a decent price.

Steel frame competition series

Keep it blocky! Serialized FCU like the sig

So I can buy the Gen6 Glock now at stores and it's called the PDP. GOt it.

All good points, but I have little faith they would make any of those improvements. They should also improve their barrel lockup. Most Glocks I’ve checked have a loose barrel fit compared to any other brand. I can usually push the top of the barrel around with my thumb. I’ve never been able to do that with other brands. Some may argue it doesn’t matter or that it isn’t common, but it was common in those Glocks I’ve had an opportunity to check. It would stand to reason that a loose barrel fit would impact accuracy.

I have a g17 gen5 for “duty” but I shoot a pdp for competitive stuff just cause like you said it’s cooler lol. It just looks and feels better thats literally the only reason.

They should do a “pro” series like the pdp. Have an upgraded trigger, sights and magwell.

If They Included A Switch... Chiraq Special... 🤣

Blackout rear sights fiber optic front, better trigger, grip modularity.

1) stock sights. 2) trigger 3) texture/grip angle/looks. 4) direct mounting system similar to Shadow Systems/Echelon. The modular chassis would be cool but I don’t think it’ll pass Glocks reliability standards.

Has the Glock trigger changed mush since the gen 1?

I think it may be an important point to acknowledge that more innovation may be possible after the passing of Mr Glock. Not that I'd expect anything revolutionary but it may be more possible than before.

If Glock really wants to innovate, start putting a high quality red dot on every handgun, already sighted in at the factory. Eventually, I wanna see futuristic sights like the video game destiny, where the front and rear sights are free floating lasers. That would sick af boi.

My wish list: 1) Steel sights 2) Front sight that dovetails in instead of being held in with a teeny-weeny screw 3) bigger trigger guard (yes, this would almost certainly destroy holster compatibility) 4) better trigger (Walther or Canik would be something to emulate) I'm old enough to remember when Glock was the only game in town when it came to the plastic frame, striker fired thing that everyone does today. That's a big part of why I started shooting them. I'm looking at other options today but I wish that Glock would just make a few changes... so that I don't have to. xD

The changes you suggest AND offer the G46 rotating barrel model to the US market with a good trigger.

I think the biggest improvement they could make is to the MOS system. I think a complete rework would be ideal. Something that uses spacers with screws going directly from the RDS into the gun would be a great improvement.

I just want them to introduce enough models so I can say I own a G69.

They're so far behind other manufacturers that they kinda need to copy them to match. Removable chassis system like the p365, metal 15 round mags for the 43x, a grip chopped 43x with 10 round mags to compete with the p365 for better concealed carry would be a start.

I’d like to see “heavy competition” options, be that steel (never going to happen) or tungsten infused.

They only thing I would add, personally, is serrations on the top part of the slide near the front. I get more contact with my hand on top compared to the sides.

they would just blow up the market if the glock platform.. here me out Released a 1911 ish angle. to buy... and thats the banger.. then you bring all the haters well most

I think Glock has got away with not making big updates because the aftermarket support is so vast. Everything mentioned can be had to your liking using aftermarket parts

They have really dug in their heels on the slow rate of change, so I don't see that changing. They might be better off with Legacy style models and coming out with some kind of "new coke" line with a larger frame/module re-design but the old faithful still has demand and as long as money is coming in the door it will stay. I love my CZ P-10C and VP9, but the Glock still has a home (it's the most mod'd of my pistols)

Due to the size of the mag, I think it might be hard to shape the grip in a much improved manner without making it too large for many to like. You forgot decent sights. If Glock would spend $3-$5 more per gun, they could come up with some sights like those that come on SiGS or Hellcats that are perfectly useable.

Gen 6 needs an rmr hd or rcr built into the slide

I agree 1000% just sold my gen 5 19 because I never shoot it anymore. I lean to my Staccato CS or my Sig X macro. Haven’t touched it in over a year. Main reason is looks and trigger

1) Steel sights. Not everyone will get a dot, and having plastic is embarrassing, or it should be for a duty style gun. 2) Texture and undercuts. This is trivial for Glock to do and goes towards ergonomics. 3) Better optic system like Springfield or Shadow Systems have developed. Honestly the trigger is the least important improvement to me

How about fixing what everybody (almost) changes 1. sights 2. Grippier grip (maybe les like a plastic 2x4) and the trigger. Hey, what if they put in a trigger from....Glock Triggers. Now there is an idea.

They need to undercut the trigger guard for Gen 6

Glock needs to copy the HK P30 grip and/or develop a design with a removable chassis system.

It's really hard to beat the Blue Label Glock program (for me personally). $450 for an MOS gun that works and requires no mods (for me) out of the box is hard to beat. Finances keep me shooting Glocks, and I don't have a ton of complaints with them.

I think they should move from browning tilt mechanism to Boberg operating system like on Archon Type B

Metal sights, and texture the grip like an M&P 2.0. That's all they need to do different.

I picked up a used Zev Duty slide mostly for looks, absolutely would do it again. Way better serrations and better looking.

forward canted slide serrations that work.

They should finally make a metal frame haha 😂that be so cool

Interesting talk about USPSA/IPSC life. Can you tell us how did you went from "simple GM" to world champion ? How did you train ? Mostly solo or with a trainer/friend ? How many rounds per year were you shooting and how many trainings per week ?