4 in 1 Bucket First Use, First Impressions

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Tractor Time with Tim

Tractor Time with Tim

5 жыл бұрын

Tractor Time with Tim with Frontier 4-in-1 Bucket AY11F in action on our John Deere 1025R.
We attempt to load some concrete and other wood scraps.
We also load some soil/pea gravel mixture.
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@PhatboyHD88
@PhatboyHD88 5 жыл бұрын
Tim when i was running Heavy equipment for a living every machine we had there was a 4 in 1 Bucket on it ,, the versatility of that bucket is amazing from tree work to landscaping and being able to use the bucket to say cut a inch or two of a grade using the bucket makes it easy.. just open the bucket some depending on how much you want to remove and tilt it so the front part of the bucket is the cutting edge and drag it backwards .. it works perfect...and also by fully opening the bucket you can move full trees by using the back or dozer portion of the bucket push up against a tree (the stump) lift up a little of the ground and just push it you cant steer anywhere you wanna put it..just keep playing with it you will never go back to a normal bucket.. to pick up boards like you were open bucket all the way ,, then lay it flat in other words so the dozer portion of the blade (the face) is facing the ground And on one side of the pile and the front part of the bucket is on the other side of the pile then close and tilt and close and tilt and close and tilt until bucket is almost in normal position i wouldn’t mis lead you buddy , once you learn how to use it you will laugh at a normal bucket.. i wish i lived closer to you i would come and show you how amazing they really are.. it was the right tool ,, just the wrong technic ..
@cedrick1963
@cedrick1963 5 жыл бұрын
My dad and I enjoy your videos, Dad is a retired heavy equipment operator and he said when he first got a 4-in 1 bucket he cussed it all the time BUT with practice you will wonder how you ever did without one. He did suggest that when you were picking up the rubble to open the clam all the way rotate the bucket forward and then back up dragging the rubble toward the bucket and begin to close the grapple. He also suggested a light layer of straw in the trailer before the dirt would have made things slide out better for you. Keep up the videos we really enjoy your efforts
@cbboggs6459
@cbboggs6459 5 жыл бұрын
I've been using a 4 in 1 bucket for almost 50 years. From working for my father as a kid, then in my own business. I will not own a machine, skid steer or track loader without one. It takes practice to be efficient. Grapples are okay for their intended use.
@PastorDavidFranklin
@PastorDavidFranklin 5 жыл бұрын
Great demonstration of the utility of the 4 in 1 bucket versus the grapple on previous videos. The trailer is fantastic!
@glenbreaks5448
@glenbreaks5448 5 жыл бұрын
I have a 4in1 Drott on a JD 350B crawler. I find it extremely useful compared to a standard bucket. Main uses of the 4 in 1 feature are 1. Picking up the last bucketful of sand, gravel or soil. No chasing material around and hand shovelling required. It picks up everything remaining in a few seconds. 2. Pulling large volumes of materials backwards, out of corners etc. 3. Cleaning ditches or cutting new ditches from the side. It's very fast and neat for this operation. Leaves a tidy rounded ditch. 4. Picking up logs. 5. Blade work (4 in 1 open). The cutting edge moves in closer to the machine with 4 in 1 open vs bucket cutting. More effective at cutting into hard soil, clay hardpan. Also very quick for pulling old fence posts when building fences, just drive down the fence line yanking them out with 4in1
@demcburney
@demcburney 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for videos like this, they are extremely valuable for showing real world situations. These attachments aren’t cheap, and to see how they work or fail in different situations and conditions really helps a lot of us that are on tighter budgets make better decisions. So thank you Tim! Of course on the flip side I’ve spent a pile of money on my tractor after watching your videos...and frequently hear my wife yelling “shut up Tim” when she hears a video and sees that twinkle of I want one, in my eye.
@TractorTimewithTim
@TractorTimewithTim 5 жыл бұрын
Uhoh!
@bradb4620
@bradb4620 3 жыл бұрын
@@TractorTimewithTim Where did your green trailer come from and how do you dump dirt out of it. Does it raise up
@TractorTimewithTim
@TractorTimewithTim 3 жыл бұрын
@@bradb4620 bwisemfg.com tell em I sent you. It is called the Ultimate Dump Trailer. Yes, it dumps hydraulically. We have several other videos showing this trailer. Check em out!
@jknewb6276
@jknewb6276 5 жыл бұрын
Perfect job TTWT I appreciate the footage that's how it goes we are learning at some point. Keep it up!
@patrochism7700
@patrochism7700 5 жыл бұрын
Tractor time with Tim that John Deere tractor doing a great job of loading them brakes and everything that dirt is doing a great job.
@TomTalley
@TomTalley 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the demo, Tim. Think broom and dust pan. Technique matters. You are trying to use it like a bucket to scoop up stuff to carry...instead, try to spread the stuff out on the ground and eat it like a dinosaur...I think you can pick up more that way...come down over it instead of trying to make it skid into the bucket...The 4 in one would work much better than a grapple for picking up stacks of loose small material that would fall through the grapple. In addition, you can grade that kind of loose material going backwards by dragging with the open mouth, or by pushing with the relatively flat front...much better than a bucket. you can also distribute loose material like gravel by opening a small gap and driving forward...much like dumping from a chained tailgate on your trailer. It is a handy tool for loose, small stuff. It can also pick up the last of small material that you would shove around with a bucket trying to pick up. When the material gets big enough not to fall through the grapple, then it is the bigger tool to move it. Even then, don't you find that you come in over the top a little bit with the grapple when you want to pick up a pile of stuff rather than trying to push the lower tines under it first?... But, like you say, you can see everything on KZfaq...thanks a million for the demo, and your hard work. I wait anxiously for every new one to come out and often review an old one to help me show others what can be done with the machine.
@howesithauling3858
@howesithauling3858 5 жыл бұрын
I think those buckets are great if you've never had a grapple before. I feel like it's one of those jack of all trades master of none things. Thanks for the great videos
@magicman9486
@magicman9486 3 жыл бұрын
I have one of these tractors. Never thought i could make some money with it, but Tim is giving me so many good ideas for after i am retired.
@markpowell4701
@markpowell4701 5 жыл бұрын
Trailer is excellent and no one was hurt. Thanks, TTWT
@Drew-in-NoDak
@Drew-in-NoDak 5 жыл бұрын
Where that bucket really shines is dumping over the side of your trailer where you don't have to curl you can just open the bucket and all the dirt falls out
@patrochism7700
@patrochism7700 5 жыл бұрын
It's holding on Bruce real good tractor time with Tim like I said doing a great job I need thumbs up on that tractor right that thumbs up for you and your wife with y'all got Tom's up.
@rescueraver
@rescueraver 5 жыл бұрын
2 things Tim. 1 practice and watch 4 in 1 videos. 2 put a mount on the trailer on the right side in front of the tires to carry your forks. Always have your forks. The 4 in 1 can be a life saver. I have run equipment for years a lot of seat time on backhoes. My favorite was a Cat with a 4 in1 and forks remember you can't get around not having certain attachments but for general purpose work you will be hard pressed to beat my favorite. The operator makes the machine not the other way around. You get good by not having the right tool all the time.
@queenrocks77
@queenrocks77 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Tim. I’ve always wanted to see how these trailers work!
@jeffvanhoose1387
@jeffvanhoose1387 2 жыл бұрын
thank you.....Im going to get a 4way bucket.....and I would have tried to use it....the exact same way you did....scoop and clamp.....now I know that dos not work....and through the comments I learned more about what dos work.....I learn things from trial and error......please keep posting your trial and errors....I learn more from that..than I learn from a mountain of success...and it makes your videos interesting/ entertaining /
@jacoboliver1553
@jacoboliver1553 5 жыл бұрын
Love the videos keep up the good work
@jeffslaven
@jeffslaven 4 жыл бұрын
That is one nice trailer! Definitely the star of the day!
@sirocco454
@sirocco454 5 жыл бұрын
I’ll have to say that trailer is awesome. Another great video.
@ffc3476
@ffc3476 5 жыл бұрын
Great job as always team 👍👍
@pearcefarmtiling8354
@pearcefarmtiling8354 5 жыл бұрын
There is a huge learning curve for this bucket, some people never get it. I have 30 years experience with this tool.
@BennyViola
@BennyViola 5 жыл бұрын
Tim, yet again a real-world example of making the best out of a less than ideal situation. You definitely made the best out of the tools you had to work with. I could definitely tell you were frustrated but, no more than anyone of us would be if faced with same challenges. You noted that it was " still too wet" but made the best out of it. To me this is a perfect example why you need a multi tractor solution. Limited space and a larger tractor could have made more of a mess. Great job bud and thanks again for sharing!
@TractorTimewithTim
@TractorTimewithTim 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Benny!
@davesmith8936
@davesmith8936 5 жыл бұрын
As you have learned 4-in-1 buckets are NOT grapples. They really are good at being a bucket AND a dozer blade as well as being able to pull large amounts of dirt backwards. In a pinch it can pick up a single limb or log 4-in-one buckets don't have the open gap in the side that allows grabbing bundles of trash. But another thing you are used to with the Artillean grapple (and one of the BIG advantages of the design) is it has two, independent jaws. Grapples with just one big jaw are not nearly as versatile.
@RoughNeckRage
@RoughNeckRage 3 жыл бұрын
I beg to differ. I move brush, logs, rocks, gravel, dirt, and anything heavy with my 4 in 1. Experience helps with operating one. Tim is being very hesitant and easy on that thing. This is a bad example of the the 4 in 1.
@TractorTimewithTim
@TractorTimewithTim 3 жыл бұрын
@Josh Are you using a 4 in 1 on a 1025r?
@RoughNeckRage
@RoughNeckRage 3 жыл бұрын
@@TractorTimewithTim no, I feel it's too much for that tractor. I'm running it on a 3046r.
@TractorTimewithTim
@TractorTimewithTim 3 жыл бұрын
Ok, wish you would have said that instead of saying I was being hesitant. I just don’t think it is possible to use a 4-in-1 efficiently on a 1 series.
@RoughNeckRage
@RoughNeckRage 3 жыл бұрын
@@TractorTimewithTim yeah I can agree with that. But I agree it definitely has its place. But I will say an actual grapple is way more efficient, like you said in the video.
@grahampahl7100
@grahampahl7100 5 жыл бұрын
I have a 4 in 1 bucket on my BX25D and I absolutely love it. I have excavated alongside my shed and have been levelling with it. Don't worry about using a grapple anymore, the 4 in 1 will do it.
@rukiddingmeNJ
@rukiddingmeNJ Жыл бұрын
Hey there. I have a L2501 and I am on the fence between the 4in1 and separate bucket and grapple. My primary use for the front end use is logs, firewood, and moving brush. Being the 2501 is a smaller machine, my questions is what would you think is a better option? Thanks
@grahampahl7100
@grahampahl7100 Жыл бұрын
@@rukiddingmeNJ for logs and brush definitely the grapple. With either option you will have to put in a third function valve so you could have both.
@miketaylor819
@miketaylor819 5 жыл бұрын
Tim, I’m having success with a clamp on debris fork. I can’t spring for the grapple atm. So I made the decision to purchase the clamp on debris forks. It’s working nicely on my jd3025. Thank you for the information on all the products your using.
@joeracer883
@joeracer883 5 жыл бұрын
That kind of bucket is good to use with gravel. Spreading it out. But looked like you was doing a good job with it. Got the job done.
@peterkober6758
@peterkober6758 5 жыл бұрын
Tim Christi fine video you tell it how the world works it's a pleasure to see this gives us insight of what to buy and how to use it God Bless PaK
@lcazier619
@lcazier619 5 жыл бұрын
4 in one bucket works good for pulling t posts when taking out fencing on the farm.
@timkd5vmv583
@timkd5vmv583 5 жыл бұрын
Once again a great video. I'm sure with a little practice you will get better with the new bucket.
@mikehornsby599
@mikehornsby599 5 жыл бұрын
Great job enjoyed that!!!!
@Mrtinkerr
@Mrtinkerr 5 жыл бұрын
You will figure it out. I have had one on my 3320 for years. The right operator can make it do everything you tried to do.
@joshseigel
@joshseigel 5 жыл бұрын
No replacement for a bucket then switch to the grapple I'm picking up on. Grapples are just so amazing hard to replace one. Nice video Tim I love your honesty and reviews.
@kr5289
@kr5289 2 жыл бұрын
years ago I had walked out from a tailgate similar to that, when I come back I found it had broke and fell shut. I'm not one of those you tube safety patrols, but just need to be careful. Good videos. Thanks
@billlary9750
@billlary9750 5 жыл бұрын
Those are some good boards that you are throwing out
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@owenfranco9777 2 жыл бұрын
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@marleygus9738 2 жыл бұрын
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@owenfranco9777 2 жыл бұрын
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@marleygus9738 2 жыл бұрын
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@bradfoster6255
@bradfoster6255 5 жыл бұрын
I like my grapple it's my favorite attachment, I think you will find the right times to use the 4 in 1. I do like that trailer thats one nice unit!
@nemesisgt350
@nemesisgt350 5 жыл бұрын
I use to keep a soft rubber mallet in my truck. When I had my dump trailer up and stuff was stuck..two quick smacks to the under side of the trailer always worked.
@bryanthegamer4798
@bryanthegamer4798 5 жыл бұрын
Im not sure that would work as good on these style of trailers, these ones have heavy heavy bottoms.
@nemesisgt350
@nemesisgt350 5 жыл бұрын
Mine had a heavy bottom as well....full one piece construction...it was solid. When fully elevated it doesn't take much to free it up.
@mikethorntonr1
@mikethorntonr1 5 жыл бұрын
Dump body vibrator you just need that and weld a about 18inch to 24 inch c channel to the underside of trailer in about the middle then you bolt the vibrator to that that's how manufacturers tell you to install and keeps bodies spotless
@Klajnepojken
@Klajnepojken 5 жыл бұрын
Ryan: Absolutley! I used to drive a side tipping woodchip truck, just bashing the floor with a hammer or big shovel helps alot when material gets stuck.
@benjaminstockton3917
@benjaminstockton3917 5 жыл бұрын
Another good video Tim Don't get frustrated Tim we all bring the wrong tool for the job sometimes thanks for the video's
@anthonyj.barton4032
@anthonyj.barton4032 5 жыл бұрын
This type of bucket was used on Bull Dozers years ago , it was used as a grader like the front of a dozer and you could have a loader that is why they call it a four in one . It was not meant for it to grab things like what you are trying to do . Very nice and hope you had a great Palm Sunday .
@richpicone7788
@richpicone7788 5 жыл бұрын
I was never a fan of the 4 in one, but like the other guy said, play with it for a bit... Can’t wait to see the big tool rack on a job!!!
@vernnelson3212
@vernnelson3212 5 жыл бұрын
Tim, When I use my 4 in 1 Bucket on my 1025r to pick things up you have to open bucket all the way and roll bucket all the way forward, then close down and roll back at the same time. This bucket is also Great for Scrapping brush that's not wanted. open bucket all the way and roll forward, then use the clam part to drag back. Also I live in a wooded area and its great for picking up branches, and logs. Keep playing with it you will find it useful in some ways. Love your Videos . Vern
@georgegohr1767
@georgegohr1767 5 жыл бұрын
Hi guys, great video.. that bucket is sweet.
@Jay_mon001
@Jay_mon001 4 жыл бұрын
That is one wicked awesome trailer
@TractorTimewithTim
@TractorTimewithTim 4 жыл бұрын
Call em. Tell em TTWT sent you. Bwisemfg.com
@crashmw21
@crashmw21 5 жыл бұрын
These things happen don’t get discouraged I would say you probably just got excited to use the new bucket Looking forward to seeing it on the next project
@paulbarber6821
@paulbarber6821 5 жыл бұрын
At 10:15, if you had rocked your bucket forward before "clamping down" you would have had much better success. That is one of the biggest challenges I have when training new operators how to use 4 in1's properly. You want the heel of the front clam and the cutting edge of the "dozer blade" both on the ground for as much time as possible when clamping down on something. Love your videos!
@andrewlyon6834
@andrewlyon6834 5 жыл бұрын
It’s a bucket of all trades master of none
@28cruzin
@28cruzin 5 жыл бұрын
Tim, valiant effort with that new bucket. Sometimes I find a tool I bought for 1 purpose doesn't do as well as I expected. Then I use it for something not planned for and it's the bomb! The grapple would have been nice for some of that work, but you still needed a bucket. Maybe bring it along next time so you can switch it when needed. Christie doesn't need a gym membership if she keeps following you around.LOL. Of course you could buy her a drone and a nice recliner, with heat and airconditioning.
@photocontrol
@photocontrol 5 жыл бұрын
Every attachment has it's advantages and disadvantages, the 4-in-1 bucket is handy, I have a Frontier 4-in-1 for my tractor.
@rexbrooks7349
@rexbrooks7349 5 жыл бұрын
We got a 3025e John Deere and we use it for every thing, with a scraper and box blade + the rear quick attach.
@ChronicBongitis420
@ChronicBongitis420 2 жыл бұрын
A jack of 4 trades, a master of none.
@Mike-mn9xo
@Mike-mn9xo 3 жыл бұрын
Just got my 4 in 1 installed on my 1025r for $3500 with 3rd function Deere kit. Love it! Deff have to get use to trying to scoop a full bucket with it it though
@dgarzand
@dgarzand Жыл бұрын
lol honestly thanks for the laugh. I’m not making fun I’m being serious. I remember my first day with the 4-1 lucky I had a teacher but this was classic 🙏🏽😂. Thank you for that.
@dananderson8254
@dananderson8254 5 жыл бұрын
The trailer is awesome
@patrochism7700
@patrochism7700 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah I was getting up that they're pretty good with that tractor and tractor time with Tim you and your wife y'all get it up pretty good how y'all daughter doing.
@patrochism7700
@patrochism7700 5 жыл бұрын
You always send me a notification when y'all do some old video tractor time with Tim you and your wife Kristi and your daughter.
@chefmatthammerschmidt8408
@chefmatthammerschmidt8408 4 жыл бұрын
The notifications from KZfaq DO NOT COME FROM THE PEOPLE UPLOADING VIDEOS, they come directly from the KZfaq Site Algorithm. If you are unable to comprehend that, there are plenty of those videos explaining that stuff. All you need to do is ask the right questions.
@CaptainKleeman
@CaptainKleeman 4 жыл бұрын
dirt perfect has been suggesting your channel to me for some time, and today i stumbled upon this video and i can see why he pointed me your direction. fantastic content and enjoy your attitude. thanks for posting. now i need to catch up on your stuff!
@TractorTimewithTim
@TractorTimewithTim 4 жыл бұрын
Welcome Captain! I met Dirt Perfect at the NFMS last week. We had chatted before, but never met personally. He is a great guy! I think we’ll need to do a collab at some point!
@CaptainKleeman
@CaptainKleeman 4 жыл бұрын
Tractor Time with Tim hey he would be great to do a collaboration with for sure! I am wanting to build either a four in one bucket or a grapple, after this video, I do believe a grapple is the direction I’ll go! Thanks again for the content.
@joeschratz9360
@joeschratz9360 5 жыл бұрын
The 4 in 1 bucket does work, however it does really show how having the right tool for the job pays off. I like the 4 in 1 bucket for the quality to save trailer space but it does not leave all issues unresolved. It works, yes, but in general it (obviously) does not work as well as the other tools do separately. Overall this was a very informative video Tim, Thank you!
@Curious_Skeptic
@Curious_Skeptic 5 жыл бұрын
Cool bucket. Didn't even know you could get one for a sub compact. I'm sure you will get use to it and find it very handy! Nice trailer! I don't miss that kind of work. I got anxiety every time I had to drive the mason dump to the landfill. I was always the guy with the load that wouldn't come out. "constipated' LOL.
@jansorensen
@jansorensen 5 жыл бұрын
Plans are great till you get to the real application. You will have days like this.Don't be disappointed. keep up the good work !
@mrgoodwrench1103
@mrgoodwrench1103 5 жыл бұрын
Nice video Tim. With some creative editing you could have made it look like everything worked out as planned with the job and the bucket but you didn't . I appreciate the honesty expressed in your comments and in your videos. Keep up the great work.
@TractorTimewithTim
@TractorTimewithTim 5 жыл бұрын
Glad you noticed. Yes, we try to state it like it is. ...or at least as we see it at the time.
@Blast357
@Blast357 5 жыл бұрын
hey Tim, you have it when you dump your bucket (the little left right on the joystick that shake the bucket). you can do that while loading as well, it works perfect on difficult stuff.the 4in1 bucket is good on a bobcat but on a "farm" tractor its better to have a grapple to grap stuff.
@AndrooH
@AndrooH 5 жыл бұрын
The 4-in-1 buckets are brilliant for eathworks - as a normal bucket, as a dozer blade, as an opening dumper, or as a back blade. I use mine weekly for all manner of things, but it's not a grapple. When you've played around on earthworks with it for a while you'll like it. Right tool for the job :)
@justinwright6611
@justinwright6611 5 жыл бұрын
First time of seen Tim get genuinely flustered!
@dennisfahlstrom7422
@dennisfahlstrom7422 5 жыл бұрын
Tim, my 4-1 bucket was a $3000 mistake I sure regret. I later bought a grapple and find it far more useful than the 4-1. It is twice as heavy as my regular bucket meaning it won’t lift as much. I’m not happy with this bucket and would never recommend one.
@gkk2001
@gkk2001 4 жыл бұрын
Dennis...it depends on what you are moving and where. Yes, the 4 in 1 is awkward and not the best choice but as others have said, it is a multi tool. I move dirt in some awkward conditions/hills and it works great for that. It moves brush and odd shaped things better than most other options.
@jazalessandro3094
@jazalessandro3094 3 жыл бұрын
Greg K I totally agree & I use my 4 in 1 to pull out mid size stumps & bushes just fine 👍
@MrChancefan8
@MrChancefan8 4 жыл бұрын
A small piece of vinyl tape and a sharpie work great for reminders on the dash... “ROPS”
@MARKE911
@MARKE911 5 жыл бұрын
Love the trailer. I’m gonna have to go check them out. Looks like it’s time to replace my 10K trailer. I don’t recall seeing a video on the trailer I’ll have to go look back and see if I can find it.
@TractorTimewithTim
@TractorTimewithTim 5 жыл бұрын
Lots of episodes on the trailer. It is a bwise ultimate dump. Check out our truck and trailer Tuesday playlist.
@chriskent577
@chriskent577 5 жыл бұрын
You were right Tim,to wet not the right tool. That being said you will find the perfect job for the 4 in1 .
@brandenhoward6301
@brandenhoward6301 5 жыл бұрын
When you want to pick up big amounts of debris open the bucket. Then curl the bucket forward. Lower it to the ground over the debris Then close the bucket and curl the bucket back towards you at the same time.
@ethanwilliams2865
@ethanwilliams2865 4 жыл бұрын
Just to add to B.Howards comment while your doing that drag the pile backwards with the bucket open will help loosen the pile
@DoA4All
@DoA4All 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think that's a 1 & 2 move. It's a 1 or 2 move. The way the hydraulics work you get curl or close. So close, curl, close, curl.. etc. Both don't work at the same time. Definitely not at a combined functional speed. I use mine as much as possible. The 4 in 1 is an amazing tool. I would never be without it. I grin every time I grap and move something that would have taken 3 guys. Nothing but love for this bucket!
@MissippiHick
@MissippiHick 5 жыл бұрын
We use a 4in1 / we call it a bite bucket all the time. Once learned very useful. Try this open your bucket all the way tilt forward till the open top part of the bucket is just past what your trying to pick up and lower the lift till on the ground back drag the material then tilt back and lower the lift then close the bucket. If you can flutter the third function switch while tilting back lowering and biting the material it works great.
@batman1989keaton
@batman1989keaton 5 жыл бұрын
I watched a clam style bucket on a big loader. He would drag it back with the open portion then clamp it to pick it up. You might try that.
@bsturgeon2379
@bsturgeon2379 5 жыл бұрын
Tractor time with Tim have you thought about purchasing a go pro where it connects to your phone and you could mount it to the tractor and viewers gets a tractor view and you also can still record with different mounts like the self stick and the chest mount and head mount
@gdeisig
@gdeisig 5 жыл бұрын
My buddies dad has one of these on his tractor, and he likes it for loading the back of the dump trucks. Apparently, he says it's easier to lift over the edge and then open up the clam shell and let everything fall out, rather than dump the bucket. Something about clearance issues he said. I'm not to sure, I've never used one before. A lot of times when someone tries to put two or more tools into one, it's almost always a compromise in some way. Most of the time I find it easier to just have multiple tools, rather than an "all in one" design. Great video you guys.
@TractorTimewithTim
@TractorTimewithTim 5 жыл бұрын
I should have mentioned that advantage. Yes we used it to dump the bucket without tipping it forward.
@SledgeHammer43
@SledgeHammer43 5 жыл бұрын
The 4 in 1 is great for lose materials like small rock, stone, dirt, bark mulch, stump grindings, or similar items. Its a dozer blade, land plane, grapple works good for brush and final clean up, and a heavy duty bucket.
@jeffcolley8979
@jeffcolley8979 5 жыл бұрын
Tractor and trailer time!
@genedameier8746
@genedameier8746 4 жыл бұрын
You should have gotten a "Flip Screen" attachment to sort out the dirt/rock mix. See one on Andrew Camarata's YT channel. Why pay to dump dirt. There are other screening attachments. Somewhere there's one to fit your needs.
@GrampysTractor
@GrampysTractor 5 жыл бұрын
Tim I would like to see this same video with the grapple doing the same work you did with the 4 n 1 bucket. It seems that for the small amount of stones you picked up bringing the grapple along and changing back and forth to move dirt too might have been over kill. Take this bucket into your woods and do some land cleaning to see how it compares to the grapple.
@gordyhouse4732
@gordyhouse4732 5 жыл бұрын
Nice big bucket.
@coffeebert6644
@coffeebert6644 5 жыл бұрын
I thought the same thing Tim when I saw videos of the 4 in 1 bucket that it has limited uses compared with the grapple. But I guess it comes down to what you are going to use it for most
@augustreil
@augustreil 5 жыл бұрын
Stop doubting yourself, you did a great job ! I do wish I had those long 2 x 12's ?
@nomad-pq4yw8iy7v
@nomad-pq4yw8iy7v 5 жыл бұрын
Up north here we try not to leave a load in over night in the winter because there's a good chance it aint coming out in the mornin' regardless of the dump angle. If u don't load equiptment in ur trailer a deck over is better(dump wise) that extra height makes for a shorter dumping distance. I like that the sides fold down 4 loading over the sides. I think I use that Idea in the future 4. Someone else said it carry a rubber mallet 2 tap the bed when stuff is stuck.
@jazalessandro3094
@jazalessandro3094 3 жыл бұрын
For the dump trailer worked well,only thing is because of its long length it be handy to have a base slider hydraulic system as well,so you slide the base forward as you are tipping the rear for the debris to fall out without getting caught when dumping 👍
@welderboy525
@welderboy525 5 жыл бұрын
I like the customer hoodie. Hello from Boston
@davidpowell6012
@davidpowell6012 5 жыл бұрын
Product called slip plate works well. Farm @ Fleet sells e z slide a graphite based paint that I put on my dump trailer. Works well and if gets scrapped off you can roll it back on
@heartland96a
@heartland96a 4 жыл бұрын
Also have the e-z slide at Menards , Tractor supply and Bumgaars , the stock paint likely wasn't helping either , nothing like bare work worn steel deck , and as suggested a rubber mallet works too. I d think when ever your dumping run the body all the way up , but try to be on level ground , if a load sticks you can end up twisting the hoist ,even full size trailer dumps can be flipped .
@patrochism7700
@patrochism7700 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah I do a lot of good work do y'all cut down bushes and Bush Hog a lot with that new tractor.
@DougAlesUSA
@DougAlesUSA 4 жыл бұрын
Incase anyone was wondering 7:09 and the seconds that follow is when I decided I will get a standard bucket and separate grapple, not a more expensive yet under performing 4 in 1 bucket. Thank you Tim for an honest showing of the limitations of the 4 in 1.
@TractorTimewithTim
@TractorTimewithTim 4 жыл бұрын
Remember, it was my first experience with the 4-in-1. I haven’t used it much since either. I don’t think Johnny has enough hydraulic flow to use it as it needs to be used...two functions done fluidly to pick up items.
@DougAlesUSA
@DougAlesUSA 4 жыл бұрын
Tractor Time with Tim thank you for your comment. Since you seem to be reading these comments, have you ever considered doing a video about how you find these jobs? I’m not interested in more then my own needs and maybe occasionally helping family and friends for free, but I’d love to better understand your process. Since my son is a KZfaqr, he told me in round numbers, he makes $3,000 per 1 million views. So, you can’t be doing all this just for the KZfaq content creators revenue. Maybe some product endorsement revenue, but you seem to honest of a person by telling viewers what you like and what you don’t like to get too much beyond maybe free accessories. Anyway, I’m probably asking for too much. I’m really just curious, thats all. I do enjoy your videos.
@TractorTimewithTim
@TractorTimewithTim 4 жыл бұрын
Doug Ales we don’t typically discuss that much detail. We get our jobs via word of mouth and KZfaq mainly now. We used to use Craigslist, but we haven’t needed to do that for a year or so. We are doing fine financially at present, I’ll say that much.
@DougAlesUSA
@DougAlesUSA 4 жыл бұрын
Tractor Time with Tim, thank you. I respect your answer.
@patrickmolen1427
@patrickmolen1427 5 жыл бұрын
Plans are great till you get to the real application. You will have days like this. Great video.
@spacebike420
@spacebike420 4 жыл бұрын
I don't have much tractor loader experience but expert level skid loader operator on any skid. I use big farm tractors but none with loaders. I would think that job would be much easier and less messy with a tracked mini skid. I have recently gotten a jd 4720 and realized the tractor loaders are more useful than I though even for some dirt work but a skid really is meant for dirt work a bit more. I've always been interested in a 4 in 1 bucket on a skid but everyone I know that has use one doesn't like it. They say it's less than one real bucket.
@powderriver2424
@powderriver2424 5 жыл бұрын
Agree with the work you were doing the 4 & 1 does much better in soils and stone.
@jasone9
@jasone9 5 жыл бұрын
Tim, if you could load the dirt from the sides you can lay down a sheet of 6 mil plastic first which will make stuff slide out much easier. Of course you will have a few bucks in plastic but it's well worth it. It's great to keep the paint nice, but paint doesn't let stuff slide out as well, hence the plastic. Obviously if you want to load from the back it won't work as well because I imagine the tractor will pull the plastic. Thanks for the video, I never felt I would need a 4 way bucket and you confirmed that thought. Sometimes you just don't know until you try it.
@augustreil
@augustreil 5 жыл бұрын
Spray the bottom with diesel !
@kylepryce4840
@kylepryce4840 5 жыл бұрын
I don't have a 4-n-1 bucket but have you tried to tilt the bucket to where when its open the back part of the open on far side of load then slowly closing the bucket and tilting back at same time
@hsmith3844
@hsmith3844 5 жыл бұрын
4 way bucket is pretty nice isn't it Tim? I like mine a good bit, it has a learning curve. It does add a bit more weight up front.
@eman1757
@eman1757 5 жыл бұрын
I will say, just keep having fun.
@danimal1611
@danimal1611 5 жыл бұрын
Tim, I agree with your assessment of the 4 in 1 for this instance. I think between your grapple or a set of forks you would have been set at this site. Load the concrete onto the pallets and set that in farthest in the trailer for tongue weight. Then the wood, and dirt last from the sides to prevent the sticking to the bed. You do great work. Always different ways to get the job done.
@TractorTimewithTim
@TractorTimewithTim 5 жыл бұрын
Forks would have worked great. But I do not regret putting some dirt down first to protect the trailer bed
@robthurlow1347
@robthurlow1347 4 жыл бұрын
Generally with the 4 in 1 and 6 in 1 that are quite common here in the uk the trick to using the grapple of the bucket more effectively is to roll the bucket all the way forward open the bucket to full extension and then place it down over what you are wanting to grab. You need have moved the object around so thier is space for the top half of the bucket behind what you are wanting to pick up.
@kencotton4645
@kencotton4645 5 жыл бұрын
Also, you can open the bucket and back drag stuff
@williamcoffman7149
@williamcoffman7149 3 жыл бұрын
i agree with you Tim, i was very impressed with your trailer and wonder if you can give us all a link as to where you bought it, way better then what ive seen local to me in Utah, and having the 5th wheel capability, i call that a win win..now for the 4 in 1 bucket, i cant say that im impressed with it with the job, the tractor only carries so much weight at the bucket, im guessing if it were me, i now would stay away from that bucket, go for the grapple and the forks along with the regular bucket for the job....again, thank you for your truthfulness, you are helping us regular jo"s out there figure out what to do and not do, and the right questions to ask or ponder when making our purchases......your Family is making a difference with us out there even if you have never met us men or women..... as for me, my hat is tipped for you....
@TractorTimewithTim
@TractorTimewithTim 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the kind words! bwisemfg.com call them. They will help you get the trailer you need. Tell them you saw the green one on Tractor Time with Tim. They will know.
@scottsendra491
@scottsendra491 5 жыл бұрын
I would like to see more videos with the 4 in 1 bucket. I am considering buying one, and would be curious your thoughts between a 4 in 1 vs. a bucket and grapple purchase. I think you might need to get more experience with the 4 in 1 to see if your first impressions has changed.
@American_Heathen
@American_Heathen 5 жыл бұрын
Yesterday I took ownership of my Johnny. Now I am waiting for Mother Nature to get with her program and get us to planting
@retireddriver16
@retireddriver16 5 жыл бұрын
TTWT you need to paint the inside of the trailer and your tractor buckets with slip plate it is a black graphite paint it can be found at most ag stores that wet mud and soil will not stick then I do my loader every fall and the snow never sticks in the bucket in the winter love your videos 👍👍👍👍👍👍
@nathanbrodeur
@nathanbrodeur 5 жыл бұрын
Tim I do believe you can have a extra grapple on the 4 and one bucket by plumbing it to the rear hydraulic valve that you connect the backhoe to
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