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455 Oldsmobile Engine Mild Rebuild - Part 2: Machining & Assembly - JAMSI Online

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Jim's Automotive Machine Shop, Inc.

Jim's Automotive Machine Shop, Inc.

4 жыл бұрын

This is the second (and final) video in this series of rebuilding a 455 Olds w/ a few mild upgrades.
Unfortunately, much of the footage I had planned on using for this video was lost. With that being said, here is what I could salvage to finish the series.
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@Orcinus1967
@Orcinus1967 6 күн бұрын
Glad you went with the new intake. Looks great!
@kellyappel3015
@kellyappel3015 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, Olds 455 Rocket! Had one in a 72 Delta 88 my folks had bought new. Boat of a car, but make no mistake, that thing would move.
@jeffhopper3526
@jeffhopper3526 3 ай бұрын
oh yeah
@davidcollis4758
@davidcollis4758 3 жыл бұрын
Good job young man. That engine looks beautiful. Take care.
@tommywatterson5276
@tommywatterson5276 Жыл бұрын
I enjoyed watching. I was involved in a 1964 Olds 394 ultra high compression 345 HP rebuild from a Super 88 in high school before this engine was made you just rebuilt. I drove a new Olds 98 LS in 1974 with this 455 engine in it.
@edwardseaton4492
@edwardseaton4492 2 жыл бұрын
I've seen, on another engine builders page, that alot of machine shops outright refuse to build engines with flat tappet cams due to the cost of rebuilding them after a tappet fails. Nice to see a shop that knows how to combat this. Top notch outfit you and your dad run.
@burnerloco4138
@burnerloco4138 Жыл бұрын
I did one of these for a boat installed oil restriction dowels in main journals to reduce oil flow to the top end and keep more oil in the pan. Something an old drag racer suggested. Of course that was 35 years ago.
@Zach-ju5vi
@Zach-ju5vi 3 жыл бұрын
I'm so happy you reused the old heads.
@donaldbabineau1063
@donaldbabineau1063 2 жыл бұрын
Those are J heads from 73 and later. Would have been better to use earlier. The pistons he removed were the low compression pistons. I have a 73 block with 70 heads and pistons. Looks stock, just earlier
@Zach-ju5vi
@Zach-ju5vi 2 жыл бұрын
@@donaldbabineau1063 yeah the first generation had the best heads by far. The heads on the later models were really inefficient so everyone just replaces them with aluminum heads but I like to see people modify the old iron heads just to see what they can do.
@rickstephens1130
@rickstephens1130 25 күн бұрын
I gave my son the 1966 Cutlass f-85 coup deluxe. That we had with our kids growing up. And with all of the updated aftermarket parts with the 455 engine. And when our son was older and he started his family I gave him the car. And he has restored it and he has done all of the body work and the original paint color. And he put disc brakes all the way around, and the engine has the new pistons and aluminum heads and bored out. And has a fuel injection carburetor. And has 700 plus horse power. So I am so glad to see you guys doing an Oldsmobile engine finally.
@rolandlewis2356
@rolandlewis2356 12 күн бұрын
Hi Nicholas, Too bad you lost some of your footage. Oldsmobile engine rebuilds are something that's seldom seen. The engines from Oldsmobile were just so good, they seldom broke down. They really were the mark of excellence. Roland
@pophamlarry
@pophamlarry 2 жыл бұрын
You and Your Great Father Do Some Beautiful Work!.... Yall inspire and touch many people's lives. Thank You For Sharing Your Lives With All Of Us....🙂👍
@HealthThroughNutrition
@HealthThroughNutrition Жыл бұрын
Done an absolutely stunning job.
@lennartyngvik117
@lennartyngvik117 3 жыл бұрын
I really like your longer videos. When you show in detail how you bring those engines back to life. 👍👍👍👍👍
@chrismc.4437
@chrismc.4437 Жыл бұрын
What have you learned along the way? Can you describe how the videos have enriched your knowledge of mechanics?
@curvs4me
@curvs4me 3 жыл бұрын
Olds 455 is a ripper right out of the box. Believe it or not, in the OEM big boys shootout, it was the fastest big block you could get in 1968-72. I don't remember who did it, maybe powernation? They took Chevelles, Cudas, Mustangs, GS and so on. The 455 was consistently the fastest. Faster than even the legendary Hemis. It's a torque monster.
@jayinmi3706
@jayinmi3706 Жыл бұрын
Lucore Auto did something similar a couple years ago.
@charliejamz.
@charliejamz. Жыл бұрын
I never understood why the 442’s were never in the Nascar races or Indy 500’s. If they had that fastest motor back then.🤷‍♀️
@austinmorris5593
@austinmorris5593 9 ай бұрын
One in my shed. stock torque about 500 just motor baby
@anthonycasey6064
@anthonycasey6064 3 жыл бұрын
455 olds is my favorite engine
@jamilmccall6553
@jamilmccall6553 4 жыл бұрын
Great video Oldsmobile power👍🏾
@so-flamotorsports7491
@so-flamotorsports7491 Жыл бұрын
wow that block cleaned up nice!
@MrPiper60
@MrPiper60 2 жыл бұрын
That engine looks great !!
@cookiecastillo525
@cookiecastillo525 3 жыл бұрын
Gorgeous engine
@flyonbyya
@flyonbyya 3 жыл бұрын
I stuffed a stock 68 455 in my 72 Skylark. 500 lb ft of fun fun FUN !
@ElvinLeadfoot
@ElvinLeadfoot 3 ай бұрын
It looks GREAT:)
@Steven3D8888
@Steven3D8888 3 жыл бұрын
Nice job, I don't work on engines but really love the craftsmanship
@conantdog
@conantdog 3 жыл бұрын
Old school machine work 👍 awesome
@aramandorejon6842
@aramandorejon6842 3 жыл бұрын
Great job
@cromaticdragon5079
@cromaticdragon5079 Жыл бұрын
Very Cool Man
@andrewbutton5580
@andrewbutton5580 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome Job Guys ! Next time I am up there I will have to inquire. !
@lamontwhitehead1809
@lamontwhitehead1809 3 жыл бұрын
Really nice video
@mohammadzaid9799
@mohammadzaid9799 4 жыл бұрын
Hey I am from India And, I really like your videos!
@JAMSIONLINE
@JAMSIONLINE 4 жыл бұрын
Hey, thanks!
@pacificcoastpiper3949
@pacificcoastpiper3949 Жыл бұрын
Ahh the 455 rocket
@patrickwendling6759
@patrickwendling6759 7 ай бұрын
Cool 😎
@mikeceli
@mikeceli Жыл бұрын
I was a "Job Shop" Machinist, (not automotive, just creating making stuff off Blue Prints) back in the 70's, followed by 25+ years in Auto Repair. I really enjoyed this video ! Questions: Why steel, not brass freeze plugs? What sealer on the F Plugs? What pistons?(brand, composition )? What type rings? Molly? Thanks.
@pmd7771969
@pmd7771969 11 ай бұрын
It takes years to learn this stuff you don't get good over night
@L8terdays
@L8terdays 2 жыл бұрын
I'd love to have you rebuild an engine for me. You do great work.
@therealswarvey
@therealswarvey Жыл бұрын
I kinda wanna see a vid showing some details on that uni-joint you use when honing. Seems like one hell of a heartache saver
@JohnH20111
@JohnH20111 Жыл бұрын
Red Line Synthetic Oil should work well with Flat-Tappet Camshafts
@ArcGlowingVision
@ArcGlowingVision 5 ай бұрын
When your machining a block, it's no longer considered a minor rebuild.
@doggfriendly
@doggfriendly Жыл бұрын
Great video and awesome engine build. I have to ask when did you check the piston to deck clearance? I am guessing you measured the deck height after surfacing block then did the math. Am I correct in this assumption? By the way thank you for this awesome content, please keep it coming. I love it.
@jakekuppel7253
@jakekuppel7253 3 жыл бұрын
What kinda power did it end up making?
@pmd7771969
@pmd7771969 11 ай бұрын
Don't forget hardened seats
@grasshop4752
@grasshop4752 2 жыл бұрын
cool
@jwoodyr1
@jwoodyr1 4 жыл бұрын
Be careful with the curled steel on your seat driver. My friend accidentally shot a piece of metal into a finger joint like a bullet. He was using some kind of punch.
@TTURBOVOLVO
@TTURBOVOLVO 3 жыл бұрын
Shake hands with danger
@RickBaconsAdventures
@RickBaconsAdventures 2 жыл бұрын
Can confirm that this is very real. Had it happen, fortunately did not get stuck in my hand but it was literally like a bullet. Never would have believed it.
@indianadave8881
@indianadave8881 3 жыл бұрын
Any info on the cam, pistons and how much more power it made than stock?
@ryanweaver5867
@ryanweaver5867 Жыл бұрын
Very enjoyable!!! Have you rebuild 350 Olds W31 before?
@janstrobach8623
@janstrobach8623 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Jim. Where do you get the one piece gasket from?? Oil pan?
@lorenzodelacruz1887
@lorenzodelacruz1887 Жыл бұрын
Great show again. To bad you cover up all the shiny parts inside the engine.
@indianadave8881
@indianadave8881 3 жыл бұрын
I just got a 71 Vista Cruiser with a 455. You just made me realize I might need to run lead additive in it. The engine has been out for new bearings, but I have no record of any machine work. Not sure if it's had hardened valve seats installed. Would probably need to pull a head to know for sure, huh?
@thisisyourcaptainspeaking2259
@thisisyourcaptainspeaking2259 2 жыл бұрын
No need to disassemble anything. Go by the letter(s) on the head outer front corner drivers side and outer rear corner passenger side. The G, Ga, and J heads have hardened seats, to my recollection.
@jayinmi3706
@jayinmi3706 Жыл бұрын
So, when you resize the rods, this makes them slightly shorter. Does the amount you surface the deck correspond to keep the compression and piston "depth" the same?
@michaelmeux4137
@michaelmeux4137 Жыл бұрын
What your placement/directions for rings gap before seating into the cylinder.
@michaelhughes8096
@michaelhughes8096 3 жыл бұрын
What are your torque specs for your valve cover on your 455 engine block
@michaelhughes8096
@michaelhughes8096 3 жыл бұрын
What do you torque your transmission pan down to
@w41duvernay
@w41duvernay 9 ай бұрын
WOULD be niice to know the Cam Specs on this, or part #.
@daihuynh6820
@daihuynh6820 2 жыл бұрын
What torque did you have on the bolts?
@BeanieMan252
@BeanieMan252 3 жыл бұрын
What’s the average turnaround time for a shop to do this? And average price?
@tmangan327
@tmangan327 2 жыл бұрын
Did you add oil restricters in the main bearings? 455 are infamous for oil issue's
@bagman4231
@bagman4231 3 жыл бұрын
How much was that build what size cam
@phillipjoyce1071
@phillipjoyce1071 2 жыл бұрын
Probably been asked before but why do you air hammer the valve guides in rather than use a press ? Just watched one of your JD head rebuild videos where you broke a couple of guides on installation . Just seems a harsh way of doing it but I guess there is a reason .
@jwoodyr1
@jwoodyr1 4 жыл бұрын
Do new valve seats have a chamfer on the bottom outside edge? Thanks!
@JAMSIONLINE
@JAMSIONLINE 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, either a chamfer or even a radius on some.
@thisisyourcaptainspeaking2259
@thisisyourcaptainspeaking2259 3 жыл бұрын
Great work, I'm wondering how the wrist pins are removed for rod refurbishing. Are the pistons ruined?
@zaneturner4478
@zaneturner4478 3 жыл бұрын
There is 2 different ways to remove the pins one way does damage the pistons and the other way you have a fixture that holds the rod and allows you to remove the pin without any damage to the pistons if you are planning to reuse them.
@jackrosen1740
@jackrosen1740 4 жыл бұрын
Very cool! Just wondering, have you ever made an un-fixable mistake while machining a part? If I was a machinist I would constantly worry about messing something up beyond repair.
@JAMSIONLINE
@JAMSIONLINE 4 жыл бұрын
Mistakes happen too easily. Anyone who claims they don’t make mistakes is a liar. Luckily, most mistakes are repairable, and all mistakes are avoidable when attention is paid. That being said, we have made mistakes that were cheaper to fix w/ a new replacement part as opposed to fixing otherwise. It happens lol!
@tiffanyswanson9932
@tiffanyswanson9932 3 жыл бұрын
I am about to have a 1970 olds 455 rebuilt. I am undecided on the cam I want to go with. This will be going back into the original Delta 88 it was in. It will have a performance intake and 750 carb. Any recommendations would be appreciated. This vehicle will just be used for pleasure driving and a little stop sign to stop sign fun. Recommended cam? Go back to low compression or go high compression?
@JAMSIONLINE
@JAMSIONLINE 3 жыл бұрын
My recommendation would be to go with the high compression pistons and a very mild cam. If I remember correctly, we used our Engine Pro Stage 2 Torque cam in this engine. You can check the specs out here: jamsionline.com/oldsmobile-v8-260-350-425-stage-2-448-472-lift-cam-camshaft-lifters-kit-mc1777/ Also might recommend switching over to an EFI system to replace that carb. This customer used a Holley EFI system if I remember correctly.
@robtdougherty
@robtdougherty 3 жыл бұрын
I would go with something like Engle 22-25-10. 230/236 duration and .512./.523 lift on 110 lsa. Will idle at 600 and enough vacuum for power brakes. 9.5 compression should be good 👍
@erikkroll2154
@erikkroll2154 3 жыл бұрын
@@robtdougherty this is the cam I used in my 468 with 9.8:1 compression. Ran 11.80's in a 3750 lbs car with 3.73 gears 2000 rpm stall and shifting at 5200 rpm. 1.62 60 ft. Torque monster.
@therealtech833
@therealtech833 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely high compression, moderate cam. Oldsmobile motors start producing good tourqe at low RPMs. With good compression ratio and decent airflow, has an exceptionally long powerband, doesn't need to rev much above 5500 RPMs for big peak power.
@indianadave8881
@indianadave8881 Жыл бұрын
Please let us know the cam spec's and if you dyno'd it
@eliseoalvarez7371
@eliseoalvarez7371 Жыл бұрын
how much does a mild rebuild like this cost ?
@MurmulisLietiskais
@MurmulisLietiskais 3 жыл бұрын
What was that you were spraying while cutting new seat counterbores?
@JAMSIONLINE
@JAMSIONLINE 3 жыл бұрын
While not required machining cast iron, I sometimes just like to use some coolant to side in cutting seat counterbore pockets. In this case just coolant out of our flywheel grinder
@travisdecker3496
@travisdecker3496 2 жыл бұрын
No balancer install tool ? Seeing you hammer the balancer on is the first thing I have seen you guys do that made me scratch my head.
@thisisyourcaptainspeaking2259
@thisisyourcaptainspeaking2259 2 жыл бұрын
I know I didn't use one on my 455 either, slid right on if I recall.
@michaelhughes8096
@michaelhughes8096 3 жыл бұрын
What do you torque your oil pan down to
@thisisyourcaptainspeaking2259
@thisisyourcaptainspeaking2259 2 жыл бұрын
7 ft-lb is enough, too much it warps and leaks. spec is 7 ft-lb
@hotrodandrube9119
@hotrodandrube9119 4 жыл бұрын
Any idea what your invoice total was for the work done in the teardown and part two?
@iamryen9398
@iamryen9398 Жыл бұрын
How much would a job like this cost?
@okieking8503
@okieking8503 2 жыл бұрын
How much did that cost
@picketttrucking9791
@picketttrucking9791 3 жыл бұрын
whats the price? i have a 455 i want done.
@jaytoven4217
@jaytoven4217 3 жыл бұрын
Same
@L-e-o-M10
@L-e-o-M10 2 жыл бұрын
Job vecancy?
@jamesstaggs7591
@jamesstaggs7591 2 жыл бұрын
I have one of these in my 64 Cutlass. I am in Nashville TN. Would you be interested in building mine just like this? Willing to ship it.
@gabrielchavez9887
@gabrielchavez9887 2 жыл бұрын
Can you send me a pic of the fireing order from distributor to spark plugs please 🙏
@Skeeterpfr
@Skeeterpfr 3 жыл бұрын
What kind of heads were those? C, j?
@davidcollis4758
@davidcollis4758 3 жыл бұрын
SPFR M They are J castings. J means junk.
@thisisyourcaptainspeaking2259
@thisisyourcaptainspeaking2259 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidcollis4758 Mine are J, they're fine.
@joequillun7790
@joequillun7790 2 жыл бұрын
No balancing required? With a performance cam, and bigger pistons, I thought you guys would've used your new Sunnen balance machine. Also, with all the new customers your videos are bringing in, maybe you should hire a professional video-er (?), while you guys work. Advertising is a good investment.
@JAMSIONLINE
@JAMSIONLINE 2 жыл бұрын
This video was done about two years ago well before we got the balancing machine.
@1995jug
@1995jug 3 жыл бұрын
looks great, that driving tool you use to drive in valve seats is really mushroomed pleas.e dress it up, i got a piece of chisel in me now that i will take to the grave
@JAMSIONLINE
@JAMSIONLINE 3 жыл бұрын
It has since been dressed ;)
@pmd7771969
@pmd7771969 11 ай бұрын
Frost plugs are wrong. Use threaded ones
@pmd7771969
@pmd7771969 11 ай бұрын
He didn't heat the rods up the first time.
@johndillinger8482
@johndillinger8482 4 жыл бұрын
those are unleaded heads.
@JAMSIONLINE
@JAMSIONLINE 4 жыл бұрын
Regardless, a consideration must be made of whether the material hardness will be retained by the integral exhaust seat by the time it has been ground/cut once, twice, or possibly even a third time. While they may have been hard enough from the factory, excessive material removal will cut through the hardened material leaving only the non hardened cast iron. When we do not know the history of the heads with complete confidence, but see evidence of a previous valve job performed, it is our preference to install hardened seats to be 100% sure they are up to our quality standards.
@erikkroll2154
@erikkroll2154 3 жыл бұрын
@@JAMSIONLINE The valvetrain is non adjustable as well and you need to get the valve stem height correct or you will have problems.
@ahmedmakodi3654
@ahmedmakodi3654 3 жыл бұрын
Bon travail mais la sableuse n'est pas bonne pour sablé les Organes et pièces du moteur
@pmd7771969
@pmd7771969 11 ай бұрын
No pros here
@pmd7771969
@pmd7771969 11 ай бұрын
Hurrying makes for mistakes
@pmd7771969
@pmd7771969 11 ай бұрын
He never checked the rods for straightness
@TheRoguelement
@TheRoguelement 10 ай бұрын
Olds Blue motors never seen leaded fuel bro .. unleaded fuel came out in 73 brutha ...
@JAMSIONLINE
@JAMSIONLINE 10 ай бұрын
Whether or not they ever saw leaded fuel is irrelevant. Doesn't change the fact that exhaust seats need to have hard exhaust seat inserts to withstand TODAY's unleaded fuels.
@bigredracer7848
@bigredracer7848 3 жыл бұрын
Or even when you use a breaking oil add the bottle of zddp I add more zinc there's never enough zinc
@mback12000
@mback12000 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry, that's not true. Too much zinc causes the oil to become acidic and corrosive thereby damaging cam and crank bearings. It's like salt on food - not too little, and not too much.
@stephenpage-murray7226
@stephenpage-murray7226 Жыл бұрын
Current flat tapper lifter quality is junk.
@pmd7771969
@pmd7771969 11 ай бұрын
Joe mondello says not to do it that way
@pmd7771969
@pmd7771969 11 ай бұрын
Yea doing it wrong too
@323gtx88
@323gtx88 3 жыл бұрын
Bummer j heads
@pmd7771969
@pmd7771969 11 ай бұрын
Those are junk fatigued rods
@mason5540
@mason5540 3 жыл бұрын
"mild" rebuild. lol
@milfordcivic6755
@milfordcivic6755 3 жыл бұрын
More annoying background music makes this unwatchable.....
@larrygates7353
@larrygates7353 3 жыл бұрын
Please stop wearing the camera, your movements get nauseating at times. Use a tripod please.
@JAMSIONLINE
@JAMSIONLINE 3 жыл бұрын
It was a one time try for the video because I thought it would be cool 😂. It wasn’t. I don’t do it anymore lol
@2kbaby924
@2kbaby924 Жыл бұрын
slowsmobile
@andreasanai3542
@andreasanai3542 3 жыл бұрын
I really HATE this "Hey Paint everything now that Is assembled" look.
@grumpyg9350
@grumpyg9350 3 жыл бұрын
In general, that 455 is one of the ugliest motors I've seen. Fun to watch, though.👍👍👍👍👍👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
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