468 LSX Project - the Dyno Test

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CE Performance Crate Engines

CE Performance Crate Engines

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Join Steven Shumey of CE Performance Crate Engines at Richmond Engines for the 468 cu.in. LSX dyno test!
Components
- Tall deck GM LSX block
- 4.185" bore x 4.25" stroke
- K1 crankshaft
- 6.3" Eagle connecting rods
- Mahle pistons
- GM LS3 cylinder heads
- 12.1:1 compression ratio
- Brian Tooley Racing intake manifold
- Comp Cam 256/268 @ .050", .714/.714, 114 LSA
- Hydraulic lifters, 1.7 shaft rockers
Results
- 724 HP @ 7100 RPM
- 585 LBS FT @ 6100 RPM
A huge thank you to Chris and Tom! And to Jim and Kyle of Richmond Engines!
RichmondEngines.com
CEPerformance.ca

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@richardwimmer6846
@richardwimmer6846 Жыл бұрын
Very inspirational as I just acquired a lsx tall deck block and ls7 style 6 bolt heads,could be a strip/streetable combo for sure,,
@ceperformance
@ceperformance Жыл бұрын
Absolutely! Build something different :)
@mohanperformance.enginerd.1308
@mohanperformance.enginerd.1308 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the kind words Steve. Was great working with a very knowledgable group. The engine is a superstar. Great combo, great machining and very well balanced. Very smooth revver. Cheers! Tom
@ceperformance
@ceperformance 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you again Tom!!
@ceperformance
@ceperformance 2 жыл бұрын
We’re thrilled with the results :)
@timothymilam732
@timothymilam732 2 жыл бұрын
Dam, I'd say ya'll had a very successful day with those numbers. Why did you stop at 7,200, as depending on cam and valve train it'll easily go even higher. Are is that a set point that you maintain for a safety factor, because if it's built it'll live long happy life at that rpm range as long as it's maintained correctly. Congrats, on your baby there, she made ya'll proud of her I know. Especially normally aspirated, and all motor is proof ya'll are on the path to even bigger and better yet to come I'd say. I'm a strong believer in never push the upper limits of things if you don't have to. As we use to say SWEET
@ceperformance
@ceperformance 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for commenting! Yes, we’re very happy with the results. It’s a 4.25” stroke so the 7200 is the safe limit in my opinion. That’s where the HP peaks so that’s the top! Your interest is appreciated :)
@timothymilam732
@timothymilam732 2 жыл бұрын
@@ceperformance it never mattered to me whether it is a 2 stroke old 2000 4 banger in a pinto 327 or 440 not even diesel, because if it ran like a top exceeded the manufacturers build by good margins that's all I ever required honestly. That and quality speaks for itself in a very short time frame, doesn't it. Your very welcome and you earned it, so thank you for sharing with us
@ceperformance
@ceperformance 2 жыл бұрын
@@timothymilam732 Thanks again :) I think we all need to share knowledge, successes and even our mistakes. When it comes to engine combos, let’s learn together! No point in keeping secrets.
@ricknelson7325
@ricknelson7325 2 жыл бұрын
That's a beauty Steve
@ceperformance
@ceperformance 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Rick! Going in the Nova soon :)
@tenthousanddays2103
@tenthousanddays2103 2 жыл бұрын
NICE !
@ceperformance
@ceperformance 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you :)
@barryprokop1778
@barryprokop1778 2 жыл бұрын
Worth the wait?For how hard it is to get parts during Covid Steven you seem to keep it simple and produce great results.Steven your dedication to detail shows in black & white on the dyno sheet. Looking forward to a rip on the "loop" Nice job! Brrrap!
@ceperformance
@ceperformance 2 жыл бұрын
@@barryprokop1778 Thank you so much :)
@a807511
@a807511 2 жыл бұрын
Run that engine from 2000 all the way up... I wanna see that Dyno run
@ceperformance
@ceperformance 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for commenting! That would be a great test to run but unfortunately there are some limitations of the engine Dyno. There’s a servo function that limits the range of torque a test can run within. Starting the test down very low like 2000-3000 would limit the top end of the test to 4500-5500 roughly. The bottom right of the computer screen shows servo %.
@simpleman2004
@simpleman2004 2 жыл бұрын
Wonder what a really good set of aftermarket heads would do?
@ceperformance
@ceperformance 2 жыл бұрын
Good question. My initial build on this was using the AFR LS3 heads but the delay kept being lengthened through Covid. These GMPP heads were in our stock so we went ahead with them. They have performed very well but I’m still interested in what the AFR’s or maybe the new Edelbrock heads would do? Thanks for commenting.
@simpleman2004
@simpleman2004 2 жыл бұрын
@@ceperformance I have a 4.100 strokeX 4.155 bore LS, Aluminum block ERL super deck II I,m putting LS7 heads"Fixed" by WCCH Im hoping for 600 HP not near as much cam as you are using though, 231 246 660ish lift, was thinking about the MAST Black label but I have so much money in it now I said screw it get it going, upgrade later if I need to.
@ceperformance
@ceperformance 2 жыл бұрын
Perfect! You should see 625 HP or possibly higher in my estimation with that combo. What rods and pistons are you using?
@simpleman2004
@simpleman2004 2 жыл бұрын
@@ceperformance JE Pistons, Crower Rods and Crank, I got a stroker kit from Brian Crower, yes he does some LS stuff as well, Balanced, coated top and side JE asymmetrical pistons, and had Eric Koenig of HPR assemble the short block, I have a fast 102,102 TB, still gathering injectors and a little more on the fuel system.
@ceperformance
@ceperformance 2 жыл бұрын
Simply Man, sounds like a great build!
@MNTNMAN-SUCA
@MNTNMAN-SUCA 2 жыл бұрын
Has your shop ever played around with an import V8? Such as maybe a 2UZFE with VVTi.? I believe they're based off of a Ford 289, but can be bored and stroked fairly heavily modified due to Cast Iron Block. Any thoughts on if you'd be interested?
@ceperformance
@ceperformance 2 жыл бұрын
That’s interesting! Never modified one of those though. Thanks for commenting :)
@MNTNMAN-SUCA
@MNTNMAN-SUCA 2 жыл бұрын
@@ceperformance Thank you for the reply. LEXTREME is the guy and his website. I think they got it out to a 327 equivalent with Eagle H-Beam Rods, they have or had a stroker kit, some very aggressive cams are available also. Small engine with a high output, would be killer! I ask because I have a 2006 Tundra 4x4 that the body is on the way out, but the engine still rips even after all these miles and I do mean it's in miles. I'm Canadian but the truck is an SR5, USA Version. But ya, optional project engine🤔🤫
@ceperformance
@ceperformance 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting!!
@itseithergonnaworkoritaint7852
@itseithergonnaworkoritaint7852 2 жыл бұрын
Nice numbers but not a very good truck towing type build! LOL I wonder what kind of numbers it would make with a cam that would bring the HP and toque peaks closer to the same number? Added together divided by 2 says around 654.5 which would bring both of the peaks down to a more streetable RPM range if that formula is even close? What kind of fuel is this built to run?
@ceperformance
@ceperformance 2 жыл бұрын
Hey man, thanks for commenting! It’s always a joy to imagine something and see it come together. It would be interesting to try the same build with much less cam and drop the compression too. Most likely would alter the hp and tq like you’ve said. We are running 94 Chevron.
@utahcountypicazospage5412
@utahcountypicazospage5412 2 жыл бұрын
222-226 550-550 111Texas speed would bring that down and make nasty torque and the low lift would never need a spring change600+ lifts require springs be changed much sooner
@ceperformance
@ceperformance 2 жыл бұрын
Good point :)
@AB-80X
@AB-80X Жыл бұрын
@@utahcountypicazospage5412 If done right, you don't need to sacrifice the hp and run a tiny cam to get good usable torque. I did a 427 build for a buddy last year which made 739 hp at 6800 and peak torque was 620 @ 4600. Here's how that was done. 12.2:1 comp 4.125 bore 4.000 stroke Diamond fully coated pistons with horizontal gas ports and a 1.2, 1.2 and 3.0 mm ring package. BR7 273 CNC heads CM cam 240/256 113+4 .648/.639 lift MSD Atomic intake w. 102 mm TB. It might sound aggressive on the cam side, but it really is not that bad. If one looks at where the peak power numbers are, it shows an engine that is very happy at lower rpm, and those lift numbers are not a reliability issue with good lifters. That combo on a 468 would bring peak points down on the curve and aide in even better street manners.
@god1st.530
@god1st.530 Жыл бұрын
@@ceperformance Gm Ls grudge racer i think the tq numbrs are perfect. For drag bad bl roads no prep. You alwas want low tq numbers so you can hook better an let the Hp cm in to get around a car. So idu what he ment by that commont great jon tho
@mikef-gi2dg
@mikef-gi2dg 2 жыл бұрын
That just goes to show you...CEPERFORMANCE HUSTLES HARDER!
@ceperformance
@ceperformance 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Mike, thanks for watching :)
@AB-80X
@AB-80X Жыл бұрын
A nice engine. But I cannot help to think that the torque was very low. Even with a hydraulic roller in the 238-239 duration range and about 640 lift, a nice combination with good heads should make in the range of 1.40-1.45 lb.ft per cube.
@ceperformance
@ceperformance Жыл бұрын
Thank you for commenting. I agree, more torque would definitely be achievable with less cam duration like you mentioned. The interesting thing about this engine, now in my Nova is the problem of traction! I’m not sure if more torque would be what I’m after :) Anyway, it’s still a fun ride despite the fact. What we know for sure is that every build done slightly different produces varying results and that’s how we learn. My next plan is to use the same tall deck block with a 3.267” crankshaft, 4.2” bore and aim at 1.9-2:1 HP / cube.
@morriswilkinson8381
@morriswilkinson8381 2 жыл бұрын
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