493 AD: How Sussex Learnt To Stop Expanding And Settle Down!

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The South Saxons of Sussex have bested the Weald, and now settle in to daily life. But will the pesky Welsh stand in their way? Discover the fate of these English Saxons through the eyes of a Jute and a Saxon!
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@TheSwanShowMain Ай бұрын

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@Visibletoallusers12 Ай бұрын

How did you come to know all this? Is there a book I can read with all the information from all your videos?!

@TheSwanShowMain Ай бұрын

It's taken from many different sources. Swan Show is the book!@@Visibletoallusers12

@Visibletoallusers12 Ай бұрын

@@TheSwanShowMain could you share those sources with me? I love independent reading

@TheSwanShowMain 29 күн бұрын

It's all scattered about in my notes!

@ronaldwinfield307 Ай бұрын

The Weald seems fascinating to me. I will look it up in the Encyclopedia Britannica. I also have a book titled the making of the English Landscape.

@ishtarlightnyc Ай бұрын

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@Timehasfallenasleep Ай бұрын

I prefer the theory that the West Saxon dynasty Cerdic, Cynric & Ceawlin were actually a Briton dynasty Caradoc, Cunorix & Colin which conquered the Jutes of Hampshire/Isle-of-Wight sometime after the Battle of Mt.Badon (AD.497) up until Colin/Ceawlin was driven from his kingdom by the Saxon Ceolric (son of Cuthwine) after the battle of Wodens barrow (Adams Grave - Alton Priors) as recorded in the Anglo-Saxon Chronicle in AD.591. With later Saxon Chroniclers mis-identifying the former Briton rulers as Saxon and Anglo-Saxon-ising their names as well as confusing their dates. I like to think Gildas the Wise was writing his history in AD.542 - 44 years & 1 month after the battle of Mt.Badon which in turn was 44 years after Ambrosius Aurilianus led the Romano-British fight back against the Jutish warlord Hengest.

@TheSwanShowMain 29 күн бұрын

Soon...

@jonlinin9682 Ай бұрын

The south saxons were basically just a backwater after 491. There is absolutely no evidence they ever exerted any influence beyond their own borders. To the west they seem to have been hemmed in by the Jutish nation (see Bede) until Wulfhere of Mercia invaded Meonwara in 661, and then they fell under West Saxon suzerainty after Caedwalla's invasion in 686.

@TheSwanShowMain 29 күн бұрын

H. R. Loyn and Nowell Myres disagree!

@jonlinin9682 29 күн бұрын

@@TheSwanShowMain the A/S chron doesn't even mention the south saxons again until 607, and that is conflict with the Gewisse (West Saxons) who would have been more or less on their borders at the time. The next mention is in 661 in connection with the Mercian invasion of Meonwara and IOW, then 686 an invasion by Caedwalla. Nothing to suggest that they were capable of operating outside there own isolated kingdom. We know, from Bede that the Jutes of South Hampshire remained independent through until at least 607, but probably 661. I have read Myers, and he seems out of step with more modern scholars such as Barbara Yorke, or even Thomas Williams. Interesting subject though. I may not always agree with you videos, but I always enjoy them 😁👍

@jonlinin9682 29 күн бұрын

@@TheSwanShowMain oh, one more thing occurs to me. Caedwalla invaded in 685 and killed King Athelwealh with just his own personal retinue as he wasn't king until the following year. This does not suggest that Athelwealh was capable of quickly raising any significant armed response. Not indicative of a significant kingdom.

@Mark28644 Ай бұрын

Wasn't Sussex, Essex, Middlesex & Kent eventually swallowed by the more powerful Kingdom of Wessex?

@ericclark1958 Ай бұрын

it took a good couple or three centuries, but eventually yes, Wessex came to dominate southern Britain. Largely under the leadership of Alfred, Edward and Aethelstan. I’m editing this because I was remiss in failing to mention Aethelflaed Lady of the Mercians, who was Alfred’s daughter and Edward the Elder’s elder sister. There’s a lot of irony there with her being a woman of Wessex who was the Lady of Mercia and being elder than the elder.