I know. I still think it's the best looking game I've ever seen. The graphics+ the artwork made this game's atmosphere godly!

I disagree

@@blitzwing1 how could u hate this game honestly I loved the story line ik this was not focused more on joker but I think that's what the made the game even better also so many characters were in this game I keep on forgetting but still I guess it's ur opinion so I can't say anything

blitzwing1 Then you've made your disdain for the game quite evident, for both the game itself and its graphics. The graphics are in fact stellar even for today. Tell me another game from 2015 that has better graphics even today other than this beauty.

I think the detail in the objects look great but the material and shaders look meh imo

Malus Ha ha, well, when you put it that way it does sound pretty silly.

@@avraham4497 Don't be a smartass. Titan V doesn't really count, nobody is buying that for gaming. And yes 8700k is better for gaming, but i9 is technically more powerful and not far off in gaming.

I was thinking the same thing.. that machine is still high end. LMAO

Threadripper 1950X is significantly less powerful than say, a 2990WX. The fact that one *used* to be about the most powerful consumer market CPU isn't really relevant towards their relative performance. And yes I know neither excel at gaming workloads, it's just an illustrative example.

HSS Revenir I still wouldn't call a 30% difference significant, not compared to the difference between a 2080Ti and mainstream cards like 970 & 1060. They did a high-end test with the 2080Ti, so I expected a midrange test next. Something more comparable to what most people have would be more useful for those people. The video description even says "[2080Ti tests]...plus tests on more mainstream hardware."

*UE4

@@benandrei8690 ue3

@@benandrei8690 nope it’s a heavily modified version of UE3

Wait, that's UE3 ? Incredible, still looks great even in 2022

2023 here. It's still a beauty.

TheJenyffer01 How good it looks have nothing to do with how well the game is optimised

Have you palyed the damn game in the last years? It's already been optimized and runs great

This should have been a ps4 exclusive.

+James Issac Why...?

James Isaac Why? So it could have been hamstringed by the ps4's outdated hardware? This game and all other multiplats are at their peak on PC. It did have a shitty launch, but it was fixed two monts later. Game exclusivity is an ancient practice that needs to die already.

I agree with you. Arkham Knight runs better now than both Origins and Arkham City to be honest.

Yeah they didn't really care or focus much effort or resources on pc version. Lol It went to a third party

Don't forget it's the biggest gimpworks title. It was the last game showed at Nvidia history montage at the RTX reveal, speaks a lot to their arrogance and stupidity

I think the best we can hope for is what they did with Injustice 2, and release it on PC 6 months after because they prioritize consoles.

Jack Davis Well they can definitely release them at the same time with no issues. They did it with the other 3 Arkham games and several other games. WB just got greedy and it ended up costing them more money than they saved.

SotNist, AK looks great at 2560x1440. What do you think 4K would do for it? The textures wouldn't likely look any better. Probably all you'd notice is some improved aliasing to reduce jagged edges but having played it a couple weeks ago I don't recall aliasing being very obvious though I have no doubt it could still be improved... 4K is overhyped a lot.

Use a reshade.

@@whodatninja439 Is Reshade worth using? Been hearing about it more and more lately

Malus oh yes definitely, I use it with almost all my games

Hdr is a gimmick

its heavily modified tho

@@MexiCooki basically to the point where it's basically their own engine

@@liljon042 Fuck yeah, i just love Rocksteady! ❤️👍

Well it is Unreal Engine 4 but more of a prototype branded as UE3, the 4th not being out at the time There is just no way it's UE3 given the visual features it shares with Return to Arkham that runs on the released build of UE4.

It doesn't need a 3080 for 4K60, lol. A 3080 would get close to 4K120. It does 4K60 on 1080 Ti, Radeon 7, RX 5700 XT, RTX 2080 or 2070S.

I agree .

Keep in mind the game’s colors are quite dark there’s less visual information.

True for both of you Yen and A R. There's only 1 section where it's day time in the game, but I believe if you try to go into freecam the map just disappears. Makes you wonder :P

@Yen Even if it wasn't a PS4 exclusive I still think this game would look better

Yen well the only thing to me that looks better is the particle effects like the rain streaks and the atmosphere looks better but I still think Spider-Man ps4 looks just as good but it could seriously use some better particle effects

Thats too details... for most unseen features (batman rarely zoomed in the face, especially mouth) artist usually used just a plane, then apply teeth texture. Combined with animated lip, mouth was shaped. Where can i read the details? Please i want to read the detailed report

Each tooth has more polygons than some n64 character models LOL. We have come a long way.

@@erikthegamer8727 there are tools you can use to extract the models from the games files and import them Into a 3d rendering /animation software

@@dixie_rekd9601 i see... thanks for the info

Can the teeth get knocked out? That would be a good use of that detail.

I remember playing it with with the lowest settings on my 2015 rig with GTX 660 and Phenom II x4 840 and still struggle to get 30 FPS, change the resolution to 1366*768 (from 1080p) didnt help much

might be fileswap. i had framedrop with 8gb ram. went to 16gb ram and the stutters stopped :-o

I installed on my SSD too, it solves the spikes in framerate.

That's because this games biggest problem is how it stores and streams textures. If you don't use the tweak tool and use an HDD that shit will stagger constantly as it struggles to pull textures off the HDD. It's why the bat-mobile sections were a nightmare because you are moving quickly and new textures are streaming in constantly. Tweak tool fixes this and using tweak tool + SSD really solves it.

I have that same thing with just cause 3 and Black Desert Online... SSDs do help with games frame rate shame most people seem to test it on a stand still and not in a big environment where stuff is loading in a lot

That's high praise, guess I should try it. I've had it in my Steam library for over a year but haven't played it yet.

Malus This guy probably was high when he played Arkham Knight, because it's easily the worst Arkham game, even when disregarding the PC port issues. Lame boss fights, too much batmobile, predictable plot and overall just wasn't very fun to play compared to the other games. It's still a decent game, but completely undeserving of any high praise. lol "muh favorite PC game." He must not play much on PC.

@@Shieftain Hah fair enough. I only ever played Arkham City and though it was good but not particularly amazing. And yeah calling any Batman game your favorite PC game is odd to say the least, there's some pretty damn good games to compete with.

Shieftain Hmm looks like that could be a case of it being your opinion and not his. I think that he genuinely enjoyed the game more than you, and I had a blast with it myself.

yeah runs great on my gtx 1080 ti now but yeah the game was really a mess from the start.

Moyle01 High Framerates vs Stable Framerates. He means to say that it's not about hitting exactly 60 per say, rather maintaining any stable number. That's why locking down to 30 can be preferable to an unlocked framerate jumping anywhere from 30/60, personally I notice anytime the framerate varies by 6 or more, sometimes less if it drops fast enough.

@@MarikHavair my secret weapon is creating a custom resolution with a refresh rate of 50 or 48hz. It gives enough overhead to keep an stable frame rate and in some cases to raise some settings. Sure, it may not be as smooth as 60hz but it's way better than 30fps.

Don't get any stuttering or poor frame pacing any more. Not for a long while now. Though having 16gb of ram or more is still recommended for this game.

Graphics wise yes

I also have the same experience with the 1070.

even had no problems when i had a 970,played through that on the launch week without any major issues

Yeah same here on 1080ti I can get a locked 60fps with no issue at least from my experience.

Reckez I can't believe people are still satisfied with 4K. Just upgrade to 8K already, unless you must have super high framerate.

Average 40 fps is *not* smooth by any stretch of the definition, unless you play on some sort of variable sync display.

🤣🤣 If that's less powerful then i7 rtx2060 would be potato spec for this guy

@@SuperSable yo i have a i7 6700k 4.6ghz and a rtx 2060 lol

@@smashkommentiert lol

Camera work as in gameplay camera? Definitely not. The perspective always felt slightly off and the sensitivity was not great

@@mhwtf5965 Transition between gameplay, cutscenes, in-game cinematic moments, gliding or getting into/ejecting out of the car. It's just superb.

Same here. Playing Spider-Man makes me want to go back and beat all 4 games again. I plan to get all of them on pc

Same, honestly

Knight is an absolute masterpiece.

Recently got 100% for everything on it. The hardest part by far was defeating killer croc on that iceberg lounge challenge map. Took me days.

I also platinumed Spider-Man in about 4 days and right after I started the Batman titles again on pc! Gotten through Arkham Asylum and Arkham city, very fun considering I used to find them quite boring for some reason.

I beat Arkham Knight about a year ago and I don't really understand the gripes about the performance. At the time I had a Xeon X5650 @ 4.6GHz + R9 290 @ 1.2/1.6GHz on an SSD and also played at 1440p. Only tweaks I did were shadows to normal, and disabled chromatic aberration and film grain because I hate them. There were a few occasional drops to 48-49fps but it was normally locked 60 during action. I had no complaints with how it ran at all.

Leadworse

Well an i9 might as well be an i7-6700 and an XP a 1080 Ti because of utilization. Getting 60fps on lots 4K titles is difficult with that hardware.

That looks better than most games today.

I wouldn't blame shitty optimization, thing about it is, the more stuff in the scene like if your looking at more stuff the harder it is on your pc.. You can't expect all games to be designed to a point where it has the same amount of polygons/models detail stuff every time you turn the camera (your character in game).. Its just silly.. Usually optimization comes from LODS and having a limit to the amount of polygons with models. If you have a lot going on, its going to make your pc run harder thats a given. It would be pretty much impossible to design these sort of games that is exactly the same usage in every direction you look. A lot of the times games go through downgrades even from beta to release or later down the release line you find out t heir optimization came from removing stuff in the game (usually clutter on the ground).. Problem is a lot of games are designed to make you go WOW at the trailer now so you look at it and go wow and buy it only to find it runs like shit on your pc even after its downgrade. Never judge a game just because of its age.. Miscreated has been in early access for a couple years or so now and that has one of the most demanding global illumination systems and will give your gpu a run for its money.

I strongly disagree.

DWAYNE JOHNSON talking about "the worst" title in a series that has reached excellence in its entirety is debatable. However, Arkham Knight takes to the max all the great things of its predecessors, so, it may be a masterpiece after all. It is definitely not inferior to Arkham Asylum, and in many ways it tops City.

DWAYNE JOHNSON and what would it be that prevents Knight from being a masterpiece? Don't go with the "too much batmobile"... the only thing I'd point out is the story, Paul Dini's replacement as lead screenwriter had its effect, but the plot was efficient enough as a finishing chapter.

Agreed! Still one of the best looking games on pc. Ultrawide on a gsync monitor makes it even better.

@@tedcrilly1 Yeah. It's absolutely stunning even in 2018, the combat mechanics are smooth, missions make sense and are fun, and the story gives a satisfying close to the Arkham series. I'm about to do a NG+ run on Knightmare soon. Very excited.

Nier automata wont be any different trust me.. Because the engine was not high tech because of lack of budget

crapgamer reviews yeah but still one of the best games this generation for me

Nyxtroos 😅😅

Nyxtroos *Sprays with water* CALM DOWN BOI

you could hit 15fps with that

Happy Meal Limited another one fooled by the wetness filter lol.

I loove having the adaptive vsync and FXAA options in Nvidia settings.

Screen tearing is eeeewww. Ick!

znubionek Then yo can just force Vsync+Triple buffering from nvidia control panel and the drop to half of refresh rate goes away. If that doesn't work, just enable fast sync and lock the FPS to that of your refresh rate using Nvidia inspector FPS limiter V2.

Use fast sync. It's better.

So many types of sync jesus christ. I didn't even know fast sync was a thing.

Hi there amdsquad, Sitting here with John discussing your comment: we have not post-processed this video in any way :)

Dictator93 one more question guys: I’m running the game at around 120FPS on a 165Hz TN gsync panel yet the game doesn’t feel as smooth as for example Shadow of the Tomb Raider on 70 FPS. Any idea how to eliminate this or is this caused by the way this game was made ? It’s not tearing but almost fells like it when moving camera around. EDIT: I have found the answer for terrible frame pacing: Batman Tweak tool fixed majority problems for me, game runs great now, I spend last 7 hours playing, didn't realize how nice this game is before up until now. Thanks

Probably not much difference after the patch. Pc vs console isnt a fair comparison anyway consoles are years behind in hardware

@@chinchy111 Thats exactly why the comparisons are made, when 2 products are the same price their performance should be able to be compared.

SSD eliminates most stuttering due to how borked the game streams textures. If you use the tweak tool while playing on an HDD it's much better if SSD isn't an option.

8k looks nice :) currently playing it on my 3090

@@victorflores429 ah, niceee. I don't believe youtube supports 8k free uploads at the moment...

Yup I'm still waiting 👍👍

Wish

Actually, me too. It's probably the unpopular opinion regarding the Arkham Series, but I've never felt as immersed in a game as in Arkham Knight.

I really liked what they did with the Joker in this one. Batman Vengeance will always hold a special place in my heart but this my favourite. I'm also not 5.

Me too, although it was the first one I played and I went back to play the previous two afterwards, so it spoiled me with better visuals, more open world design and the badass Batmobile.

Is it really an unpopular opinion? I think people universally love it besides maybe there being a bit too much tank gameplay. I mean it looks amazing, it plays incredibly well, it's well written, has a ton of content. It's nearly perfect :)

@@DatGrunt You want a real unpopular opinion? I think Kevin Conroy is the worst thing about Knight and the guy who voiced Batman in Origins did it better.

Cool story. Want a cookie?

Do you?

Too it xbox one x

pro patch? nah a One X patch man!

Console? You better get a PC.

It's no better in that. Having played it on ps4, I can tell you that. There are popping textures everywhere and the game lags occasionally while traversing in the Batmobile. For context, I'm using the ps 4 digital edition of AK

Have u seen the upgrade for return to arkham, WB will do lazy job enhancing this for the 1x

Prophet 49 All they should do is 1080p 60fps. No 4k.

@@samuelrodriguez4018 Or maybe both, I gotta 4k tv and 1080p monitor so I'll like to see how each play out, witcher, tomb raider and hellblade did it.

Well 1080p 45fps rocksolid for the previous batman title that recived X patch was pretty bad

Yeah even a patch to 1080p lol.

If I have to guess, running on the lowest settings on enthusiast tier PC and yield subpar performance.

If the gpu usage is not high 90s or 100 percent most of the time it is poorly optimized. Also if your cpu cores are unevenly used that can also be indication.

There are 2 things you should consider: 1st is the ratio of how good the game looks vs how it runs (for exp see how much better The Witcher 3 looks and runs than Nier Automata). 2nd is how the game runs across different hardware configurations. If a game is really well optimised then it can scale pretty well on a wide range of hardware (Forza Horizon 4 for exp). If a game is NOT well optimised (Arkham Knight at launch for exp) then it will run like ass on pretty much every piece of hardware (until you can brute force through it with extremely high-end hardware from the future like DF did here).

Heh thats most pc games now days not all but the list is growing. People talking about batman being solid prob isnt playing in 4k or is playing in 4k with a rtx 2080 Ti....No thanks for the gpu price....And with experience on a RTX 2080 the past few weeks games ran better then my gtx 1080 but still something wasnt right..Sent it back kept the 1080 called it a day.

Amigo500 please tell me you are being sarcastic?

". . .Nitty gritty look. . ." ". . .Little tiny details. . ." ". . .Different type of cinematic style than you typically see in a game." " . . .Focus on the detail. . ." ". . .Camerawork is breathtaking."

It doesn't stutter anymore since late 2015. Game has been fixed for years.

It still stutters and I’m on high end max overclocked hardware it simple doesn’t like above 90fps I should be getting 300 fps on my RX 6950xt but it stutters as I get 180fps up and down game doesn’t like anything high fps

How is the performance? I have an i5 4690 and a GTX 980...

@@kruvik 60fps@1080p and @1440p The are noticeable hickups sometimes while driving around the city but it's not often enough to bother me. And the only time there are prolonged drops into the 40s seems to be during the fancy cutscenes. If you lock it at 30fps with Riva or nVidia Control Pannel, it's almost always consistently smooth.

Okay, thanks for the info!

I'm still baffled that they shoehorned stealth mechanics into Spider-Man. Because nothing screams stealth like a brightly colored suit and a wise-cracking hero.

Well Spider-Man only really beats it in story and maybe the on-foot combat (there are more options) and traversal mechanics. And I guess stealth is there to give players a choice on how to play. But as an overall package Arkham Knight is better (mostly due to more interesting side content, better level design and the breathtaking athmosphere).

I can get it without the tool with 3440 21:9 resolution with a 1080ti.think it averages around 90fps with gsync.

churchill378 I had texture streaming issues and hitching/stuttering without tweaking a few things with the tool. When it wasn't having the issues the FPS was well above 60 FPS.

What did you tweaked exactly?

@@cancer7636 try using batman tweak and in there set Texture Streaming on balanced

what is the tool called, can u help me with the link?

iPhones tho iPhone 4 antenna was functionally broken, not physically broken, by just the way you hold the phone... and apples response was "you're holding it wrong" iPhone 6 and bendgate, where apple was aware of the phones malleability since before launch

Funky Fettucine It's the whole "cult of technology" attitude many people buy into. They become personally invested in a company like Apple, or a franchise like Arkham to the point where even if they're getting screwed over they just accept it. Going beyond their financial investment and into a personal one. It's crazy seeing people who allow their own identity to be associated with a company. I was in a comment section about one of the new iPhones of that time. This guy mentions that this was his first iPhone. And, I kid you not there were like 5 other comments where people were calling him "brother", saying things like "welcome to the family" all with zero irony.

ion77799 Operating systems from Microsoft (Windows 1.0, 2.0), IBM, Google (Android OS) and others have been very buggy at times but have still been successful. Also in the pharmaceutical industry people have been taking so called medications for the better part of century that masks symptoms but worsens the underlying condition and actually makes people worse off in the long run.

If that were true the age old adage of "let the buyer beware" wouldn't exist, shoddy craftsmanship has always been a factor of any given market, sometimes it's even been in demand.

20 years working in the tech industry (infosec and development) says I'm right.

It's weak CPU. i5 2500K is old. Especially for this game.

All 3.

Because it got fixed like 2 years ago if not more. And they gave every owner of the game a free copy of every previous arkham game.

Batman on xbox is 900p -,-

Michael Lopez I’m going to call BS sorry mate

A 970 can get locked 60 at 1080p. Maybe even 1440p at medium settings. But not 4K 60FPS with normal settings.

Yeah I have to agree that sounds like rubbish to me.

@@shortshins I also ran this at 4k with a 970, I got around 25-40 fps though. Perfectly playable.

No you didn't.