DF Retro Play: Batman Arkham Origins - The Christmas Arkham Game!

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6 ай бұрын

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Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays! We're publishing this Retro Play on Christmas Day and why not, bearing in mind that Batman Arkham Origins takes place on Christmas Eve, moving into Christmas Day! John Linneman and Marc 'Try4ce' Duddleson take the controls of the Wii U and PC (with full PhysX) versions, plus there's a little Xbox 360 too.
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@tomkirbygreen 6 ай бұрын

Thank you DF for the unexpected present under the tree today. Hope you’re all having an awesome day. ❤

@elaiswaifu5459 6 ай бұрын

The fact that Arkham Origins is considered a retro game now is CRAZY! I still remember being hyped for it back in 2013 as a kid from the first trailer when Batman fights Deathstroke!

@jai3476 6 ай бұрын

Asylum has some great PhysX use too. Physical smoke, papers in the environment and even intractable debris.

@executable3 6 ай бұрын

I'm so disappointed that hardware physics died off. We really went backwards with technology when that happened.

@doooodeh 6 ай бұрын

@@executable3 Its insane how backwards we got. From environment destruction to physics in games in general. Back then Euphoria and games like Force Unleashed or Red Faction Guerilla showed amazing things but nowadays interactivity with environment and real time physics stuff is dead. The Finals finally showed something but thats just single game.

@jai3476 6 ай бұрын

@@executable3 I hope Nvidia brings it back as a way to get one up on AMD. FSR 3 is big competition for DLSS so having PhysX comeback would be good marketing.

@Hirnlego999 6 ай бұрын

@@executable3 Proprietary technologies need to die though. It needed to be open source, free for all.

@pixels_per_inch 6 ай бұрын

@@jai3476 PhysX is still used in many games today. You just don't see it because it has become open sourced (so the logo isn't necessary) and are by default CPU/Software only (same look regardless of GPU support). If a developer is willing, they can pretty much turn on GPU acceleration and add a bunch of interactive effects just these Arkam games

@Ward413 6 ай бұрын

The way this game wrote the story of Batman and Joker meeting was so good. Also Joker meeting Harley and she misinterprets him expressing his love for his new found lifelong opponent with talking about her. It’s all just great stuff. The snowy Christmas Gotham is also just awesome. That menu music is so hard.

@executable3 6 ай бұрын

It was pretty good although at the time I was a little annoyed that it ended up being yet another Joker story. I had looked forward to a story that wasn't about the Joker.

@Ward413 6 ай бұрын

@@executable3 Yeah I feel that. I was also glad to see they gave Bane the respect he deserves actually making him intelligent, which is consistent with the comics, I’m told. Was cool to see his build pre-titan too before he became the massive abomination he is in Asylum and City. I was thinking too, if Warner Brothers and Rocksteady ever wanted to reboot the Arkham series, Roger Craig Smith did a great job as Batman in Origins. So even though we lost Kevin Conroy, who will always be Batman, at least the alternative of Roger Craig Smith is more than capable of giving us an Arkham appropriate Batman.

@webbedshadow2601 6 ай бұрын

Definitely agree they should go with a reboot, I didn't like whatever Gotham Knights was supposed to be so I wish they would just make another Batman game, it shouldn't be in the Arkhamverse so it doesn't ruin the ending to Arkham Knight, And I hope they get Roger Craig Smith back to voice Batman.@@Ward413

@sevenkaylive 6 ай бұрын

I was literally playing Arkham Origins right now... what a great game ❤

@natejennings5884 6 ай бұрын

I have the PC release of Arkham Origins on GOG. Way better than it's given credit for.

@LordLOC 6 ай бұрын

I was just playing it as well. Such a severely underrated game imo, and the multiplayer was a really good time too.

@davidmulcahy8548 6 ай бұрын

Very underrated. I played it again last year on wiiu after not playing it since the ps3

@dr.loomis4221 6 ай бұрын

Was is past tense

@Bugplanet8840 6 ай бұрын

@@dr.loomis4221was as in an hour ago

@SplitScreenDocumentaries 6 ай бұрын

If you were wondering, the "kinda orange and blue" cinematic look is actually called "teal and orange" in color correcting vocabulary! A lot of films use it because it's two very harmonious colors that you can find traces of in the human skin (among other things).

@Alex320014 6 ай бұрын

Playing Arkham Origins as a Christmas tradition right now

@Sir1626 6 ай бұрын

Even though this game isn't made by Rocksteady it's still a very fun game that pushed the series forward. The DLC Cold, Cold heart is absolutely amazing too and is the highlight of Origins.

@WllKiedSnake 6 ай бұрын

And you can't even get that story expansion anymore. It's gone on Xbox.

@mrbossfortheloss8058 6 ай бұрын

@@WllKiedSnake Good thing I got it in 2021 before it disappeared

@Avil450 6 ай бұрын

Finally someone said it , cold cold heart was the highlight of the game for me . (Rest of the game is pretty good too)

@WllKiedSnake 6 ай бұрын

@@mrbossfortheloss8058 I got it on PS3 and all the dlc.

@AlucinorProductions 6 ай бұрын

Agreed the dlc was better than the main story imo

@kushagrachaturvedy2821 6 ай бұрын

Not only was this game my introduction to the Arkham games, it was my introduction to Batman himself. Ever since then its a yearly tradition for me to complete a playthrough of this game in December

@tyo101 6 ай бұрын

Linneman and Marc bringing the goods on Christmas day - thank you! 🦇

@RedKnightInGotham 6 ай бұрын

I don't know if it's mentioned in the video but something weird about this game on PC is I don't think you can set the texture quality to max settings from within the game. You have to edit it in the .ini file to actually get the highest quality textures. Which is odd. I might be wrong, though.

@EspenSGX 6 ай бұрын

Very glad you mention this! I always wondered why the textures were lacking behind a bit on my PC. Can you tell or link to what exactly you're supposed to edit?

@RyneLanders 6 ай бұрын

Yep, can confirm. I started another replay for Christmas a couple of weeks ago and ran into this issue. Had to use the config file to set the textures to max.

@RomboutVersluijs 6 ай бұрын

@@EspenSGX probably look for a config.ini such files got settings in them

@drkevorkian2508 6 ай бұрын

It was part of a year-long trend of developers trying to automatically set texture quality (and nothing else) based on frame rate. They quickly figured out they were terrible at it. A vestige of that still exists in the Assassin's Creed series with an auto anti-aliasing option.

@TRONiX404 6 ай бұрын

@@RomboutVersluijspretty sure there's a mod on nexus

@dwengs 6 ай бұрын

This game should be on digital stores for current-gen consoles. I'd buy it immediately!

@AlexBaldwinFTW 6 ай бұрын

It's backwards compatible on Xbox if that helps at all :)

@JDMGIAN 6 ай бұрын

@@AlexBaldwinFTWyou can’t buy it anymore on the store sadly😭

@HalfpennyTerwilliger 6 ай бұрын

@@JDMGIAN There's still the option of getting a physical copy. Even when delisted, backward compatibility is still supported.

@dwengs 6 ай бұрын

It is near impossible to find a used or new physical copy of this game in my country...

@AlphaladZXA 6 ай бұрын

@HalfpennyTerwilliger was this the title that was bugged and capped at 45fps or was that a different one in the series?

@davetrendell6786 6 ай бұрын

I just this morning installed this on steam deck and it runs like a dream! Never played it as it got rinsed a bit at launch. Loving it!

@Will_3rd 6 ай бұрын

Just finished the Cold Cold Heart DLC for this game two weeks ago on PC. This and the main game are underrated.

@ThePreciseClimber 6 ай бұрын

Kinda wish they did something with Two-Face origin, though. Maybe a second story DLC or something. As it stands, Two-Face was very under-utilised in the Arkham games.

@Hirnlego999 6 ай бұрын

I prefer the DLC. It's another battle with Freeze where you have to use your head

@TechnoSyndro 6 ай бұрын

It's kind of weird how John keeps talking about how he remembers this game being good and unfairly hated, while also talking about how he remembers absolutely nothing about it.

@MarkWSutton 6 ай бұрын

Today I remembered this game existed. I loved the original trilogy, but somehow missed this one. Merry Christmas DF Crew! Hope you and yours are having a wonderful day.

@TechGamesAU 6 ай бұрын

That Wii U game is looking better than Switch games

@destroyermcw626 5 ай бұрын

And Switch can’t even play Origins

@Teo_-xl7uj 6 ай бұрын

This game is fucking amazing. It's honestly baffling that not even a remaster or a port for newer consoles was never released.

@doolanthefox 6 ай бұрын

Watching this on Christmas. I played a lot of these during Christmas time. Thank you guys

@iNubpwn3r 6 ай бұрын

Thanks, guys. Happy holidays to you, and happy new year.

@NowhereNarrative 6 ай бұрын

Hot take: Best plot in all the Arkham games.

@doctorfresh3856 6 ай бұрын

The graphics has aged just fine. Idgaf what DF is talking about.

@TylerMBuller12 6 ай бұрын

I wish I originally played these on pc. I really like the physx stuff it adds alot to the game imo. Physics are so important and under rated they make the world feel much more alive.

@Rockerfella360 6 ай бұрын

I watched a full play through of this yesterday on Christmas Eve, so much nostalgia of getting it as a present for Christmas when I was younger. Arkham Origins is the Die Hard of video games.

@abysswalker3357 6 ай бұрын

man i miss physx there was so many cool effects with that ! i wish it would make a come back

@offspringfan89 6 ай бұрын

It's still used on modern games, but it's processed by CPU nowadays, instead of being accelerated on Nvidia GPUs.

@Ioganstone 6 ай бұрын

CS2 particle fx comes to mind. Pretty much all the hype was generaetd on the FX. need a healthy balance lol

@bdre5555 6 ай бұрын

What a great little Christmas treat! Merry Christmas DF!

@edwaaard46 6 ай бұрын

I replay every Christmas Arkham Origins! It fits perfectly!

@vrapbrap 6 ай бұрын

Always enjoyed watching people play this. Not something I enjoyed playing myself but hey. Thanks for the pleasant surprise.

@Mephianse81 6 ай бұрын

Wow a new df retro plays for Xmas thanks John and Try! Merry Christmas!

@dussilver5712 6 ай бұрын

Just finished playing through this one again on the Series X lastnight. A great Christmas game 😅

@WllKiedSnake 6 ай бұрын

@@HiN00bs12The F!?....

@stefancvetincanin2710 6 ай бұрын

Hot damn that smoke interacting with the cape looks amazing

@Emulator_Crossing 6 ай бұрын

underrated game... great story

@itsaxel8088 6 ай бұрын

Arkham Origins is personally my favourite out of the series. They really nailed the atmosphere and boss battles for this game. This game deserves so much more love.

@AmariMarvelous 6 ай бұрын

Same. Arkham City is the best overall but Origins is my personal favorite.

@Versat1l 6 ай бұрын

Agree with both comments here

@TomBombFR 6 ай бұрын

@@AmariMarvelous I find Arkham City a bit disappointing on the story side. Looks like they couldn't decide whether the story was about Strange, Ras Al Ghul or the Joker. It goes in every direction and it's a mess as a result. Shame, because everything else about the game is great. Story-wise, Asylum and Origins are the best.

@TomBombFR 6 ай бұрын

I recently replayed all the Batman Arkham games on PlayStation consoles. This one is very rough on PS3 (looks much better on WiiU!), but it' an excellent game. It got criticized back when it released for stupid reasons, when it's actually a much better game than a lot of stuff we get now.

@eliotwildermann 6 ай бұрын

Lolz John's picture is perfect 😂😊

@Kuranghi 4 ай бұрын

Excellently savagely cold put down from Johnny L at 30:20 lol loved it

@Taijifufu 6 ай бұрын

I love physx. Dropping a smoke bomb making henchmen panic then leaping from the smoke leaving a trail behind you is just chef's kiss. 😚👌

@InFlamesor12 6 ай бұрын

God I miss PHYSX ! I wait for a glorious return, I remember mirrors edge, mafia 2, both metro games and also the cool turbulence effects and awesome fur on riley, the dog in cod ghosts, lol :D

@dan_loeb 6 ай бұрын

Arkham asylum had physx for ground debris and paper bits that might be what he's thinking of.

@marskingdoms 6 ай бұрын

The best of Arkham full of action❤

@marcelosoares7148 6 ай бұрын

5:23 A pristine joker laugh by Marc

@DaltonDiMartino 6 ай бұрын

the first time i held a wii u disc the smooth edge made me go woah. loved that idea.

@Skeames1214 6 ай бұрын

John's passive aggressive "keep going, keep going" in the vents killed me, that dude is ready to be on vacation.

@Lord_Deimos 6 ай бұрын

Funny, I just finished replaying Origins. Don't know what the fans were smoking for hating it but it still rocks and I don't care.

@JonathanLukeAvery 6 ай бұрын

It’s called a ‘hate wagon’. Couple of popular KZfaqrs start spouting an opinion and suddenly it becomes trendy to hate something and literally everyone hops on the wagon parroting the same tired criticisms all over the internet convinced they came to that conclusion on their own (even though the majority of them didn’t even play the game, they just formulated the opinion based on videos they watched and repeating the opinions that they heard expressed) I watch many modern games today get the ‘hate wagon’ treatment and are severely underrated. Avatar: Frontiers of Pandora comes to mind right now. Days Gone is also another great example of a game that got way too much hate and now everyone is looking back at what a masterpiece it is. I can’t tell you how many times I almost fell victim to hating something based on the popular opinion, convinced that I didn’t like something. I mean, I saw lots of footage, right? But then I’d go and try it myself, sure that I’d hate it, and turn out loving it

@plume... 6 ай бұрын

Thanks guys, Merry Christmas :)

@HoobriBoobri 6 ай бұрын

thanks for such videos guys!

@yousuftawhid5967 6 ай бұрын

Just played this today Great Christmas game

@tonykane3297 6 ай бұрын

Damn, this counts as a “retro” game? Shit thanks for making me feel old on Christmas Day 😂

@tropicata 6 ай бұрын

I like this game a ton. Shock Gloves are still my absolute favorite gadget in the entire Arkham series, and it only appeared in Origins.

@ThePreciseClimber 6 ай бұрын

Technically also in the Wii U version of Arkham City.

@McLongSausage 6 ай бұрын

Whole Arkam Trilogy was on-sale on steam for like 5 bucks or something, just picked it up, going to play it for sure and not just be super happy about how much money I save buying games I always play on steam.

@MrCris2205 6 ай бұрын

I always wanted a DF review of this game!

@pistachiodisguisey911 6 ай бұрын

man I miss physx stuff in games... still more impressed by old pc ports that have em than most new games

@JMartinni 6 ай бұрын

Nah, good riddance to that. Devs today could totally make these effects without PhysX if it was something they cared about. Including it in the Arkham games was purely a marketing deal.

@Ioganstone 6 ай бұрын

@@JMartinni I'm sure OP would be fine with regular old Particle FX too

@libardomm.trasimaco 6 ай бұрын

This was my first batman game that I played. I love it.

@thestud2 6 ай бұрын

I just finished this a couple days ago! I think I started playing it when you guys suggested it.

@just00saying 6 ай бұрын

what a treat ❤

@kodemasterx 6 ай бұрын

2:30 Correction: Arkham Asylum featured PhysX, it had interactive smoke as well have paper and particles... For those wanting to play this game on PC, there's several mods in NEXUS that will improve the gameplay even further, as we all know the combat felt a bit off compared to the rest of series, this was because many animations were disabled by WB Montreal to make Batman be less precise when it comes to the combat as we was still fairly new as a vigilante. (Which is stupid in my opinion) Other mods will remove the god of awful DoF effect as well as increasing the LODs for less popping on screen, and not to mention better Anti Aliasing. A lot of ppl tend to hate on this game but it is far better than any current open world game if you ask me.

@marvellousm 6 ай бұрын

I'm happy seeing this game get some attention, I feel it's really underrated and suffered from being rushed and buggy at launch. There are some great set pieces and some really cool character moments that I definitely feel at least puts it above Arkham Knight in pecking order.

@xxnike0629xx 6 ай бұрын

It's weird how Batman Arkham Origins and Batman Arkham Origins Black Gate wasn't included in the remaster collection. Maybe if we get lucky we'll get a PS5 remaster collection and it'll include those 2 games too?

@biggamer6058 6 ай бұрын

What a coincidence! And I, too, just started replaying Batman Arkham Origins.

@lanarkorras4411 6 ай бұрын

Origins also has a pretty good story. Such a shame having it not be part of the collection.

@awsomeboy360 6 ай бұрын

This game is SOO undrrrated. I think it has better boss fights and story than Arkham Knight.

@BrotherKnowledge. 6 ай бұрын

This is my most favorite Batman game of all time. I have played and completed, 100%, the Xbox 360 version 7 times total. When I got a gaming PC back in August of last year, the first game I bought for it was Batman: Arkham Origins. While I have a lot on my gaming plate these days, I still look forward to playing this yet again.

@Versat1l 6 ай бұрын

Preach 🙏

@A7XKoRnRocks1 6 ай бұрын

Arkham Origins is now DF Retro? Time surely flies.

@bewsket 6 ай бұрын

I’ve just completed this game and thought to myself how underrated it is, and DF uploads a video about it. Maybe we can raise awareness and they can revive servers in PS3 to get thise online trophies for the platinum 😅

@manna6912 6 ай бұрын

Literally I was playing this game on Christmas.

@TristanTormey 6 ай бұрын

yess I remember you guys talking about this in the direct weekly. how this should of been in the switch pack instead of knight

@MonsterMJ 6 ай бұрын

what a great game and what an amazing lets play

@DomsDiner160 6 ай бұрын

Thanks for spotlighting this gem! This and GTA 4 need a modern version available 😢

@ramonosuke 6 ай бұрын

Man, I own this on steam, and never beat it. I'm definitely redownloading and seeing how it looks in 4k. Under rated game

@eric.waffles 6 ай бұрын

Wii U is how I experienced it for the first time and I gotta say it was a pretty solid experience!

@nintendokolekcjoner239 6 ай бұрын

Same 🤜🤛

@destroyermcw626 5 ай бұрын

I going to get it for my Wii U but install all DLC it could get

@blueguy09 6 ай бұрын

Merry Christmas guys

@kikomanq 6 ай бұрын

still playing that after my work im enjoying it ❤

@billykotsos4642 6 ай бұрын

can’t believe this is a retro game already !

@miguelmunozbustos5319 6 ай бұрын

it is not, its just 10 years old

@desmondbradford6609 6 ай бұрын

Fun Fact: Arkham Knight has no cape physics. An animator spent one and a half years creating over 700 unique cape animations

@brucewsbr 6 ай бұрын

I love Batman Arkham Origins. I really wanted a remaster for current consoles 🦇🎮

@walter_the_wobot2349 6 ай бұрын

I hate how WB keeps trying to pretend this game doesn’t exist. Arkham Quintology!

@kaikiske7436 6 ай бұрын

Another excellent video, thanks guys. Leadbetter needs to hire Try full time. Dude is alpha af. Especially with the rise of scalers, mini consoles, etc!!

@Alexcarter27 6 ай бұрын

I got the platinum trophy for Arkham Origins just yesterday which is fitting considering the game is set on Christmas Eve. It's my first Batman Arkham game so I can't compare it to the others but I enjoyed the story and gameplay. A great game all round.

@ryanschindler923 6 ай бұрын

Would love to see this same thing but with Borderlands 2. The PC version was a great showcase for PhysX with fluids and clothes and debris and advanced graphics features and whatnot.

@EVPointMaster 6 ай бұрын

It would be more interesting performance wise too. It just uses 2 CPU threads and even on my 7800X3D in some spots the game drops to around 90fps when running at max settings.

@ryanschindler923 6 ай бұрын

@@EVPointMaster haha, right. I actually reinstalled this last night to hop around for a bit, and man, it's such a good game. I forgot how fun it is the play with physics of all the cloth and flags and debris. I was only in the early parts of the game but on my ryzen 5700x and rtx 4070 it was usually around 130fps at 1440p during heavy battles.

@tomiloger2910 5 ай бұрын

My favorite Batman game

@haisex3 6 ай бұрын

I recently got it on PS3 and im planning on playing it soon :)

@HAL1138 6 ай бұрын

Really should have spent more time outside in the city. It is where the game shines.

@dshamrock9238 6 ай бұрын

I would love a proper video of you guys analyzing each individual version of Batman Arkham origins. Heck Arkham City with the Wii u versions alone

@HelveticaBold1 6 ай бұрын

Going to pick this up for my OLED Steam Deck.

@liamstaple7389 6 ай бұрын

I echo what much of the chat are saying. Underrated game for sure. The story had a really good psychological thriller aspect to it I thought and a satisfying conclusion. Just as good as the others in its own way. Happy Christmas all!

@AJ_UK_LIVE 6 ай бұрын

Merry Christmas all :)

@crithon 6 ай бұрын

sigh, no day one patch, where I got stuck on a ledge. I had to wait for a week till it was patched into accessible, but then later I fell into the world map into endless void. OH! It'd be Christmas if it had those bugs! Fun video.

@russmawson6744 6 ай бұрын

I loved Arkham origins when it came out and feel it was underrated. Like John though i remember very little about it

@beforecommodore3k696 6 ай бұрын

I remember playing this game, I was feening for some more Arkham But I also remember while playing everything felt a little bit off. But I’ll try it again

@Lucromis 6 ай бұрын

The physx are impressive in these games. I wish physics in general kept advancing, because it’s more interactive to me than perfect reflections in games. Red Faction 1 was where I noticed the trend and it died it seemed in the early 2010s. I guess the 8th gen consoles were not a good fit.

@waitwho3074 6 ай бұрын

8:59 It's incredible how perfectly John pronounced Montréal he literally said it like a native Québécois. It's crazy because even the anglos in Canada still cannot even pronounce correctly Québec or Montréal. Americans being better as usual in french than the anglos in canuck. Meanwhile, there are a lot of english canadians that moves to Québec to attend schools over there because it's cheaper yet 99% of them are so bad in french compare to the American students or most foreigners if you ask me. That was embarrassing to realise because I was thinking to myself they should be good they always cry about the fact they are ''forced'' to learn french in school until they graduate. Yet it doesn't seem like it. I went study in Québec for 2 years, loved the place the Québécois are probably the most welcoming and kind people in Canada. There's a lot of misconception about them and also false informations. As the local says, they call it ''Quebec bashing'' and it's true. There's just a constant smear campaign against them in the english media in Canada. They showed me countless examples.

@DoshindeReus 6 ай бұрын

What a coincidence. I just bought Arkham Origins for my Wii U! Lol, I got it for 8 euro. The graphics are quite good, but the frame rate is subpar at times. The Wii U was a great little console with a solid GPU, but held back by its PowerPC CPU and dated RAM. Only optimized games from Nintendo showed what the machine was truly capable of.

@nintendokolekcjoner239 6 ай бұрын

And lived shortly, so it’s never reached full potential…

@nuruddinpeters9491 6 ай бұрын

Arkham Asylum used Phsyx. I almost thought F.E.A.R. used it too, but it used havok and some other stuff i misremembered.

@Nick_Harrell80 6 ай бұрын

I was thinking about this game today

@mooferoo 6 ай бұрын

That phys-x smoke is awesome. Why didn't more games take up the phys-x effects? They add such great atmosphere to games. When the Arkham games started that it felt like we were at the start of a new generation of smoke and atmospheric effects, but i've seen nothing like it since.

@WllKiedSnake 6 ай бұрын

It's a waste of resources pretty much. They ate more to sell graphics cards.

@marcelosoares7148 6 ай бұрын

My guess is: Most games are developed for console first, then done for PC later. So the games we got with PhysX probably had a Nvidia incentive on the side (money or whatnot) Nvidia got tired of these practices and stop trying to push the tech. Although some games still use PhysX but not at the level we see in these old games.

@WllKiedSnake 6 ай бұрын

@@marcelosoares7148 Yeah! It was more a feature to sell Nvidia cards pretty much.