Isn't he talking to an orphan?(it's in the voice line used in this video)

Theory extension: Marcus adopted the orphan to carry on the family business because he himself is sterile after generations of significant lead exposure.

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Would make sense but tbh I still feel like it's almost certain they are

Headcanon accepted

thats how i saw it as well

Yes

A Mini-Marcus? Sounds like a good idea for a quest chain in a future game. Maybe he, or she would want to make and produce weapons rather than just selling them and would task you with "freeing up" buildings and structures filled with gangs and psychos. The reward could be an increased amount of "on-sale" weapons in Marcus' store.

Scarlet dlc in bl2?

@@cheemsman5002 I forget which one it was. That's why I wasn't specific.

It was the Zombie Island of Doctor Ned from BL1. I remember the kid asking what a tree was

Maybe Mancubus asked for a refund?

when i first played bl 1 i thought marcus was gonna be the end boss

@@masterofhippos1395 Would have been way cool, maybe that was the plan but players like him too much. General Knoxx's armory could very well have been Marcus in a Mech suit defending his stores warehouse

@@masterofhippos1395going in blind I was for sure suspicious of him with those partnership offers

I consider it a bit of betrayal from Marcus that for his own benefit sold weapons to the Bloodshots to fight againt the crimson raiders.

He also makes a joke abt his brothers constantly trying to kill him and him being the only surviving brother left

Exactly why Zane probably would thank the other VH's for saving him the hits he probably hated thinking about having to do himself cause they would have been personal.

He hates his brothers baron flynt and captain flynt?

@@garra123454 dont you hate them too?

@@lucasd.garces435 not really they are only doing bandit things

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i'm fucking sick to death of that stupid theory. if it hasn't been officially canonized by now after 10 years as well as after a krieg dlc and entire tiny tina game then it's not canon and probably will never be

well... if that is true... why zero maintain his assassin name zero but also he becomes a vault hunter? so... if zane gave up being assassin one in order to become a vault hunter... why zero is a assassin AND a vault hunter? why zane couldn't be both like zero did?

cuz I don't see why zane need to gave up if zero could be both... just don't have sense

@@Slayyyaphine Yeah, but I *do* think that Tina escaped from the same facility where Krieg was experimented on. *Especially* since in the Fustercluck DLC you can hear Benedict talk about wanting to experiment on some preschoolers.

That is absolutely something he would do.

True Zane would do it just to screw with someone

I have a shovel for this I can dig it.

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What's the book called? Or are you referring got the borderlands comic books that were released?

@@yoda908 The book was a short novel. As to its name, I don't recall it was about 8 years ago that I read it.

it means he went on to BECOME one. meaning he wasnt one yet, and in this case wont ever be.

​@@sawyerbarney4194 But if we use Flak's story and his skin in that pack then it would make sense that Zane already was the Assassin One because Flak was the Great Archivarius and then became a Vault Hunter.

And so when they grow up, and inevitably get into a risky job just like their parents, he makes a boatload of cash. Now that's the Marcus we know.

Remember also in borderlands you arrive in in a bus driven by Marcus with the other vault hunters. I believe you also arrive the same way in borderlands 2. So Marcus would look out for vault hunters. Maybe Marcus became close with a vault hunter and one of the vault hunters died and Marcus took him in prior to borderlands 1. I'd actually love to read a tie in novel that explains everything that happened prior to borderlands 1. That also includes what happened to Pandora. There obviously was a big ocean filled with giant sea creatures.

@@yoda908 bl2 begins with the vault hunters surviving a train explosion/crash caused by wilhelm on the orders of handsome jack, as far as I know. but I do think marcus has a soft spot for vault hunters, even if it just started out as him seeing them as an investment opportunity.

@@yoda908in borderlands 2 they’re fighting on a train, and handsome jack setup a dummy and blew the train up. They wake up in a frozen tundra greeted by claptrap

Seriously??

That’s actually sick asf I never knew that

people only focus on the tiny flaws instead of the full picture

Been saying this. Behind all the goofyness and humor, there’s actually plenty of lore to dive in to. Not expanded like a game as World of Warcraft, but still interesting lore nonetheless. The Guardians and their intentions. What was the Watcher predicting? Why did the seer manipulate people to the point he wanted the Great Vault to he openend? All loose ends, but all shrouded in mystery, that’s why I like Borderlands; Mindless gun shooting at enemies and exploration of lost ECHO, Hunts, etc to reveal piece by piece what is/was going on. Lotta people ignore this fact, and indeed, only look at the flaws of the game rather then put some research in it.

@@Dvdh2903 For me it's the history of the corporate wars. We know there was a Corporate war when a "Central Government" collapsed. There's so much possibility there. Not to mention the connection of Sirens. What are they? If my theory I've had for awhile is correct, Sirens (or their powers) are from the same dimension as the destroyer, and that where so much connection to him comes from.

@@familialdysautosis2717 I’m active at the Borderlands FANDOM and posted there a potential game/plot for a future Borderlands game; Borderlands Origins. What if we, instead of following the story, we get a game that dives into the past. The Corporate wars. We can create our own Corporate “Soldier”. Instead of Vault hunters and their Action skills and powers, we can play as a corporate soldier with each manufacturer their own benefits, skill trees and Action skills. We will uncover the collapse, the first arrival on Pandora, wether it be by Dahl or Atlas or by being a spy inside one of those corporations to uncover the secrets Pandora and other planets hold (Beware of Dahl’s presence on nearly any planet) There’s so much potential for such a game. And enough replayability. You can choose and create a character from any Manufacturer and instead of a class, any manufacturer has their own Ability and skill ( so in Vault Hunter terms, Action Skill and Skill tree ) Been thinking about that lately. If they do it good, it could work extremely well.

@@familialdysautosis2717 Another one, since I expect no Origins game like that will come in the near future. But a potential plot for Borderlands 4 is a Siren class that can Phasewarp. Which means, the Siren can willingly travel between Dimensions, Future and past. Maybe after Borderlands 4 we need to travel back in time to corrwct a certain timeline. This timeline would be in the time the Corporate Collapse/War happend and the Borderlands: Origins Would play right after Borderlands 4. Just theories but so interesting to think about

I swear they're teasing us on thinking that these two are related, despite having it "denied" that they are. Like why would he mention tiny Tina alongside with someone he felt so close with, like Maya? And then we see the same premise with the gold coins in his dlc? Boy if they won't drop the act in BL4, I'll riot

When Moxi ask’s Krieg if he loves someone hi says: “the Tiny one and the crying mother”, that’s confirmation right there.

@@alternator7893 who is the crying mother tho?

@@alternator7893 how is that confirmation at all though?

The quote is “THE TINY ONE AND THE SAD-FACED MOTHER AND THE BLUE TATTOO FOREVER AND EVER!” The tiny one: Tina The sad-faced mother: Kriegs wife (maybe?) Blue tattoo: Maya

1. Lilith was sneak attacked, she was beating tyreen's ass until tyreen sneaked her, 2. Aston being bi was always in consideration until they decided to make it canon when that glitch was discovered

@@kysdie9979 no he wasnt? it was the bug and they said it too. theres Q and As stating it in plan day

Let's not bring bl3s bad writing into this but yea I generally agree and like the retcons they made to due bugs. The lilith tyreen thing is just bad writing tbh.

Zane would be the most dangerous bandit of the Flynt family

holy shit it’s the mida multi tool

Yeah fr. It's not a theory it's literally how it's portrayed in the game.

Yeah, fuck Evangelion, this is top tier writing. Specially Borderlands 3

Borderlands is the only anime I will watch

This franchise needs Jack. The Calypsos were pathetic teenage dreck.

​@@Poppa_CapinyoazJack alright had his ending in the story. The Calypsos are dead too so it's not like they're the main villains going forward. I hope they just make a new villain instead.

Okay,that is just straight up fan fiction

@@umairashraf5167 ikr but I've argued with people that swore it was gospel truth lol

@@ArinyaXoriGMVs what evidence do they have?

@@umairashraf5167 His tattoos. That's it. They don't even look like siren tattoos.

@@ArinyaXoriGMVs plus I'm pretty sure it's been stated that there are only FEMALE sirens ,with Troy being the only exception because he stole Maya's power

she says that to all the vault hunters IIRC

Could very well be that Eridium has always been part of Pandora, just buried very deeply with only a handful of pockets of it existing on a semi-surface level.

and on what established facts within the the borderlands universe would you base that on ?

Does he narrate wonderlands?

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Here's one, The Destroyer is actually the good guy. And yes, is still alive inside its prison that is the planet pandora. Possibility? Less than .01 percent.

@@allanbaker3958 that would be cool. However that might skew the original Lovecraftian influence of Azathoth which is blind to the world and would end it if it woke up So the destroyer is basically Chaotic neutral

@@nathanielgarza9198, And how many people know or even care about the original influence?

@@allanbaker3958 I think a lot of nerds would care about H.P. Lovecraft especially y’know the giant extremely important bit in his mythos Personally, the story is already a dumpster fire that it’s not like if they try implementing that twist would ruin it any more

That's a good one

You see her without makeup in the Pre Sequel, sadly. I like this one though. It's also a soft rule that Sirens can't/don't hide their markings, for whatever reason.

@@avery9076 You see her in less makeup but not necessarily no makeup.

​@@avery9076 Tannis hid hers for a while

Jack can still come back, imo more naturally, through the Tales From the Borderlands 1 ambigious ending although he'd only be a hologram.

@@xtensioncordtv1969 Robo-Jack would be pretty based can't lie

Time-warp to the past of the Corporate Wars and Downfall to prevent previous events and maybe even going back in time thus far to the point we meet the “Then still living” Eridians to ask for Knowledge and how to erase or rebuild a current timeline. A Siren could have these PhaseWarp powers. Idk still dope imo

@@xtensioncordtv1969 In the end of Tales, Rhys didn't destroy the chip right? So technically Holo Jack could come back by having a character who is a fan of him similar to Prof Nakayama who will do anything to bring him back.

@@kellogr2788 If I remember right it's left ambiguous because there are two endings. One where Rhys breaks the Holo Jack chip and one where he doesn't. If he didn't then Jack could reappear like you said or simply still be in his hologram form.

my only issue is that fl4k is a robot with ai but then again who’s to say zane’s family + zer0 weren’t biologically engineered and fl4k was the creator’s attempt at making life

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After the fustercluck dlc what I said can not be taken as true. The only way It can be true is if krieg came out sane after the slag experiments and then became insane after getting captured again.

Isn't she still technically alive but only inside kriegs mind now?

@@umairashraf5167 I think so?