I can attest to this statement as well. My Ruger precision has 20 shots through it. Still going strong. 😂😂😂 But seriously, this is promising info, ty!

Bob Brown where are you finding brass for the 6.5PRC?

@@robinsok I bought Hornady ammo to get the brass. I was fortunate enough to catch Hornady Match ammo in stock on Midway in April and bought 4 boxes. I don't know how guys manage to get Lapua or ADG brass in 6.5 PRC but it's out there apparently.

Great video Jim, I'm loving my 65PRC

@@hochhaul Fast forward 2023. 2 bones a case for Lapua and I was glad to find it. Go figure.

If you had to pick one rifle, your 308 or your 6.5 PRC by Seekins, which one would you choose? I’ve also looked at Seekins precision rifles. Trying to figure out which caliber and which rifle manufacturer to get.

damn, your freezer must be stacked?!?!

How did you get 1 black bear,3 mule deer and a bull elk in one fuckin season???

@@greglebrun7047 lol

Based on what I've seen/shot...if you like that .270win you will really like the 6.5 PRC

The 6.5prc is ballistically no different than 270 wsm dam near identical with same ballistic coefficient bullets. That said the 270wsm is superior to the regular old 270

Same here👍🏼

Not no more the 6.8prc is the top for long range flat shooting hunting round

I really really like my PRC, if you reload, I highly recommend the 153 gr A-tip. I know it’s considered a match grade bullet but I can personally attest to it’s incredible effectiveness on large mule deer.

How do you like the recoil vs 30-06?

@@bradenherle8774 the 6.5 PRC is a bit more manageable. Not by a huge margin but my shoulder appreciates it. Just wish rounds didn’t cost an arm and a leg.

Then there’s those of us who will burn a barrel up in a year because we practice more than we should 😁

And now with the price of ammo lol ,

I heard about a father and son that shared a deer rifle. They brought a box of the exact same ammunition every ten years.

Sooooooo wrong. Dont make assumptions

Only city boy hunters shoot one box a year lol

Yes. ...but it kicks like a mule.... But excellent...caliber

@@makeamericagreatagain7314 itll kick, but ive never noticed recoil until after my shooting at a range, let alone on game

That one will smoke on down range

they did a vid on the 30-06

cant argue with 114 years of success

It does and it doesn’t.

30.06? I'm not sure about this newfangled ammo yet. Sticking with rimmed. 303 for now.

@@joshsinglefooter Well now, being over 100 years old that's a straw man argument.

@Rom vin Scott Stutzman is exactly correct. You are the clown insinuating that shot placement is not important. I know you didn't say it was not important, but calling Scott out this way insinuates it. Shot placement is probably the most important criteria. Now Scott didn't say it would "put an animal down lights out", he just said it was important. As for your claim of "thousands of video's of all kinds of animals that took off to be found a mile away or not found at all"...I don't think I have seen even one of these video's, probably because most people wont post them. Yes, this is an admission that it does happen and that is a shame. But of these thousands of video's you claim, how can you accurately know if the shot was placed well or not? You cant! In most if not all cases you are looking at a long distance video and you are certainly not doing post shot terminal ballistics. Calling Scott a clown is out of place. My guess is that Scott has hunted a great deal more than you. I am an old guy and I HAVE hunted and killed many animals over the years, bullet placement is paramount. The only thing Scott didn't mention is that between a 25-06 and the 338 is that you MIGHT have a little more room for shot placement error with the 338. I don't normally comment but you are out of place on this one. I think his comments are pretty much spot on.

I think a big reason the 6.5 Creedmoor took off is that it is seen as a competitor for the 308 in AR10 platform. Unfortunately, the Swede won't fit.

I think 25 06 has more power then 30 30 which is still used alot. Plus realistically people have taken game with .22 caliber cartridges. And taken big game with 30 06

The .264 win mag is the BEST middle weight caliber. Tragic that garbage calibers like 6.5PRC exist instead of the .264 being king of the hill.

6.5 Grendel is the bomb, especially with good handloads. I absolutely would take a 6.5GR over pretty much anything else. (Wish that IWI would put out a Tavor in it...)

It is a great round.

The most boring cartridge around

Yep. 30-06 isn't real fancy, but gets the job done pretty much every time, and ammo is everywhere.

100% agree...if you have to deviate, base it off the 06 case.

We are out of 30/06 in Montana

@@milkrvr4088 better than being out of 284 Norma.

The cool thing that makes the 30-06 so versatile is that the initial military loadings were 220 grain bullets which necessitated a high twist rate in the barrel. Unlike a lot of great cartridges that got hamstrung by slow twist rates the 30-06 was not one of them. Couple that with a reasonable case capacity and recoil and, while graying in the beard, it's still an excellent general purpose cartridge.

so, 6 creedmoor or 6 remington? 243 is more common sure, but not as easy to reload.. and it might not like the 100-ish grain bullets.

@@jmkhenka Well, it comes down to what you want to use it for. 100+ gr bullets can cause issues with magazine length loading and your chamber throat / freebore. But I would argue most people using 100+ gr in a .243 are loading their own ammo for long range precision, where those concerns aren't an issue, due to single loading and custom reamed chambers. The vast majority of hunters and plinkers will be at 95 gr or under. My initial comment was more along basic availability for the average shooter, where .243 Win is far ahead of 6 CM and 6 Rem.

243 is a fantastic round let the idiots follow the fad a blr in 243 is my fav my 6.5 swede will still wipe the floor with the creedmor

All I use in my 243 is 100grain Remington corelokts and I also get handloads alot from a buddy that loads them to spec like the Remington ammo I use plus he hand loads me a special hot load using 120 grain 6mm bullets. So no hand load issues. I wish ammo makers would offer store bought ammo for it with 120 and a little bigger. When it was developed back in the day it was a varmint round with the lighter bullets and folks found it was a fine deer round with the 100grain so no other larger offerings were made or thought necessary

Far as 243 my next ar is going to be in 243. Same ar10 upper lower and mag just a different barrel.

Me too.

@@Pew_pewchronicles Not if you consider the barrel life. The difference is up to 10 times. Also 308 has better killing power at close and medium ranges. Better bullet weights selection. Creedmoor is here only because of PRS and F class Open.

@Nicholas Rodriguez that’s just not true. The 6.5 creedmor became popular years before the military had anything to do with it.

@Nicholas Rodriguez Ruger and Savage were making budget and high end rifles years before the military adopted it. It was the third best selling cartridge when the military picked it up, trailing only .308 and .223

@Nicholas Rodriguez I was only counting rifle cartridges. It was the third best selling rifle cartridge for a long time before the military picked it up.

Better profile old grandpa 7mm Weatherby while your at it!!

The 6.5PRC's claim to fame is driving a heavy for caliber (143gr bullet) around 3200fps in a short action. Real life I found it to mimic the 264 Win mag in velocities (3050 ish in a 24" tube). However, the 6.5 PRC does it with 8% less powder and has a twist to stabilize high BC bullets. For the 300 PRC its a rinse and repeat of those concepts. Build a cartridge to shoot heavy high BC bullets in an action length that can house them appropriately. The 300 PRC does hold more powder than a 300 Win mag, so the performance gap widens as you load each cartridge with heavier bullets. Then drop the belt to make it trendy for today. The belt really wasn't needed and some think it hinders feeding but I've never had issues with belted magnums.

I had one of the first Christensen arms Ridgeline’s chambered in 28 Nosler here in Canada. Ammo, brass and dies disappeared and after almost 3 years I sold it.... Now, 1.5 years later, 28 Nosler ammo is readily available and I want another one. 👌🏽

Same

Same. Been leaning towards trying a 28 Nos

28 nosler is king

Now your talking. Absolute beast under .30

Best cartridge imo

I believe he is quoting stats that they have compiled on the" Backfire" page.

If you reload I highly recommend the 153 grain A-Tips and about 53.7 grains of RL 26

Wrong with modern bullets expansion diameter (and thus wound channel diameter) can easily be controlled by bullet construction. Typically 6.5mm has higher sectional density which is better not worse for hunting.

@@gsxr1189 Bigger bullet still bigger wound channel, yes you can control expansion with bullet construction, but then you can just buy the same bullet in .30 and still have a bigger wound channel. Sectional density only plays part in penetration, if it was all about penetration, why not use FMJ bullets for hunting (illegal because it does not expand). Expansion along with penetration is whats going to give you a big enough wound channel to cause blood pressure to drop quick enough for the animal to expire quickly. I don't want my Kudu to run kilometres into the bush after I shot it.

​@Great White Let's face it, thats 80% of all hunters doing it wrong. ha ha ha

@@jonathanmitchell3733 Wrong. Bore diameter alone has no impact on terminal performance if a 6.5mm and 30 cal bullet both hit the same target and both were producing say 2000 ft/lbs energy on impact and both expanded to say 0.6" the wound channels produced by both would be the same because physics.

@@gsxr1189 Wrong. If I hit you with a baseball bat or a large ball with 2000Ft/Ibs you would get knocked back, but definitely not permanently hurt, because science. Furthermore, Both projectiles will not expand the same diameter consistently (comparing apples to apples). You are correct in saying no one element can determine the effectiveness of a bullet, but bore diameter plays a big role when we are comparing apples to apples in bullets. Remember that the only thing (except a brain or neck shot, and one other lucky way) that kills the animal is a drop in blood pressure, so the brain is starved of oxygen or inhibiting breathing so the brain is starved of oxygen. Either way the bigger the hole cut in the tissue, the quicker the brain will be starved of oxygen.

What ammo do you use

@@sebastiendugger6929 I have been using the 6.5 PRC 143 gr ELD-X Precision Hunter from Hornaday

No kidding! I was wondering the same thing. Sierra makes a Gameking.

haha you want bullets that mushroom on impact, not disintegrate. WTF

Because they kill deer just fine

To what I heard, the SMK's have a thin jacket and there is a OTM Version of it, that has a small hollow tip, which will fragment even at lower Velocitys. If the bullet Fragments or Mushrooms, both will do well, as long as they penetrate enough.

@Rom vin Agreed! I also, Nosler Accubond!

an underrated cartridge for sure. I think as with a lot of Remington designed cartridges, they were released at a bad time and often overshadowed. I shot some of my first few deer with my dad’s 280 Rem 700. Lovely rifle.

Not very popular, and spends, most 270 guys are staying put.

270 is a good choice for all-round hunting use without being too much of a shoulder whopper. Maybe a bit light for elk at longer ranges but perfectly adequate for moderate ranges. I personally limit my elk shots to 300 yards under normal hunting conditons with over the counter ammo.

I think the idea is about gaining shot placement advantage. Not saying I agree with it but just why some people think this way

Just get a 270.

@@rgjr.6055 agree

@@rgjr.6055 Theres a thousand ways to skin a cat and some like to make it more difficult

And got crap performance out of the bullet

And a 300PRC outperforms 270wsm but they aren't in the same class of caliber either because you have 15-20% more powder charge but 6.5 PRC will still run you down and pass you given enough distance because 277 cal BC's are garbage. Before you come back with the standard fudd response but but muh rifles only for hunting so distance don't matter try reading the 2nd amendment because rifles are not just for hunting.

@@gsxr1189 who actually hunts (shoots) over 500 yds ... It all on what you like

@@gsxr1189 .277 bullets. the 2 most popular were just not designed for long, high bc bullets. a .277 bullet will have a higher BC than a .308 bullet if using the same bullet weight and the same ogive profile. i think its funny the .270 wsm fell into the same trap. it should have been designed for with a 160 grain bullet as the standard, pushed to 3100 fps with room and powder capacity to shoot 180 and 190 bullets. it would be the darling of the shooting industry.

For a short time Ruger was marketing the 270wsm in their MDL 77. I was lucky enough to get one and have always been pleased with the performance. I had some work done on the bedding and trigger and it is a very accurate rifle.

@@TheWarriorsMind I know a few guys who live out in the Great Plains regions in the US who sometimes have to take a shot like that. Longest shot I ever took hunting was 400 yards on a mule deer. That said, where I reside, 99% of my hunting is brush stalking and 45 yards or closer. Seldom do I get a longer stretch out beyond 70 yards. So yeah, all on what you like but I'd say it's a fair assessment that most people aren't going to shoot ranges like that EXCEPT at a range.

.308 is my favorite

What?? Are you saying a 6.5-.257 Wby?? I wanted that for 15 years!! I'll be damn happy with the 6.5 PRC built on the Mark V action if I can get ammo!!

.257 Weatherby Mag is a great cartridge!

My same question. Are they shortchanging the 30-06 with a 100 grain bullet?

I like how he hasn't answered this question.

Look at hornady website. The 30-06 superformance 180 gr sst has 200 ft lb more energy at 500 yards than any 6.5 prc available.

They are also really short selling the energy on the 30-06. You could get a 180 grain bullet going 2800 FPS at the muzzle which would get your energy at 3200 ft.lbs

I still like 17hmr

It's fun for a rimfire.

Ahh Remingtons long list of Fk ups.

@@gsxr1189 They've hosed me twice. The latest is the 300 RSAUM. Developed it, sold it then kicked it off the curb. Love the rifle. Accurate, hard hitting. No more $$ of mine going to Remington!

Never thought of that,but yes I agree😂

Yep, with a proper twist rate and a slightly more efficient case. It utilizes about 8% less powder to achieve similar velocities.

How is the recoil compared to the 30-06?

26 nosler

When all the ammo is drying up early in the pandemic this was the one cartridge that was still on the shelf and I should have grabbed more of it. Sometimes those obscure cartridges that are easier to find, but then the popular it is round took off now I can't find it anywhere ;-p