I’m not disagreeing with you, but the Toronto Blue Jays Rogers Center Outfield District costs only $20 per person with great views, seating anywhere, restaurants/bars, games, etc.

But then you’d have to watch a Blue Jays game so…

@@JaydenWillem I guess that's fine if you don't have to eat, drink, or park.

@@JaydenWillem You're going to bring a family of 4, for instance, to the Outfield district at $80, plus parking (or go train which is even more expensive than parking), plus the food approaches $100 minimum throughout the course of the game...

@@scottg9855 you’re right

The younger generation aren't attending.

When I was in high school I went to 4 or 5 games a year because I could afford it. Since then I’ve gone to maybe 10, and I’m 72. They overcharge to get in and for parking

Well when you lose nobody wants to attend the games

Two beers and 2 dogs for $34 was a good deal, I was at the stadium for the white Sox game last week and the Yankees lager was $20 a can.

This kind of thing is going on across America. Average folks can't afford to pay the owners to pay the high flying salaries of bsllplayers.

Florida 😢😊

Their two teams are currently winners.

it's a better harder sport...

You can make a case to add soccer with hockey too since Messi arrived in Miami.

Not weird ... it's a better game.

I often think of how a family of four & how they could afford a "trip to the ballpark". Shame. Better off supporting the minor & independent leagues

⁠@@yoholmes273The “family of fours” that do go probably are the well off ones.

Explains the slight decrease in attendance at Dodgers Stadium -4.5% even with Ohtani. Or it could have been the rare rainy games in the beginning of April?

@@danram247 Why don’t more professional stadiums have roofs then? Especially knowing the crazy weather that occurs in California anymore. Hell, So Fi is the one that comes to mind for one’s that do have a roof.

@@RB01.10 Rain during baseball season in Southern California is very rare... especially heavy rain...Sofi Stadium's glass roof was done so that it can host other events like concerts and Superbowls without any rain interruptions.

Angels 😮

Amusement and Theme Parks are the same bullshit!! A family of 4 to Six Flags costs about $3500 dollars these days for the park,admission,parking,food other unmentioned caveats,an overnight at a hotel. This doesn’t include travel expenses such as driving in with a car or train or plane.

Your knowledge of punctuation marks is non-existent.

​@@mikegarippo7815no one cares, professor Grammar.

Come join us in Indycar and Imsa Sports car racing. Both volunteer and salaried openings. You definitely never go back to stick and ball sports

The Yankees only had 2 games on their channel(YES network) last week. The rest were on some streaming services. If the 12 yo me could only watch 2 games a week instead of making it a habbit to watch every day I doubt I'd be as big a fan that I am now.

You're absolutely right. You have to buy all these seperate stupid streaming services now. That said, we're about the cancel our cable and do that cuz our cable is WAY high but I'm not happy about it. There's also the fact that today's kids seem more interested in video games and watching streamers online than sports. Young kids aren't as interested in sports or even playing outside anymore. It's crazy

@@ryandouglas8382 Yeah, I see my grandsons on their iPads playing video games. I ask them if they want to watch a baseball game on TV (the few there are) and they look at me like I have 3 heads! Once you lose the youth, "TILT, GAME OVER!"

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SPOT ON 100%!!!!! I grew up watching the Cubs on WGN. I became a huge Cubs fan. My Dad loved the Braves because TBS showed the Braves. More n more n more, you have to pay even more to watch. I'm NOT gonna do it. I casual check scores on line but that is it.

MLB gotta go to 150 games and add a round for 2 more teams

$3 tickets where tf you spending $300 at?? The strip club afterwords? 😂

White Sox ranked about 17th in the league for attendance in 2005. They just aren’t relevant in Chicago.

@@ericfriendzoned1303 who did you blow for $3 tickets? This is the Chicago White Sox, not the Berwyn little league.

@@Trumpetjoe40 lmao you can literally find tickets on any site for $3 to a White Sox game in the hood lmao

I pretty much followed the same pattern. I think I’ll find some minor league teams to watch.

Actually who cares who wins & loses? It just doesn’t matter.

It’s fun to go every so often for me, but yeah spending money on season tickets or going to multiple (more than 2 or 3) games in a season for a team I couldn’t do. Especially considering so many sites have fees stacked on top of the ticket cost that sometimes are more than the tickets themselves, yeah it’s a special occasion if I do go.

Similar here except I no longer follow teams. Salaries, increases in cost of games and general disillusionment

Yep, I basically am the same. College football is in the same boat as pro sports now. Too much greed and it’s all about the almighty $. Doesn’t matter if you win or lose.

my problem at the M's T Mobile Park is that they DONT accept cash anywhere.

Your paying the billionaire owners first and foremost.

​@@luigivincenz3843 I hate having use my credit or debit cards. I rather take 25 or 30 bucks in cash. I spend that I'm done for night 😊

​@@jamesroof6150 Exactly. And same owners that want new or renovation stadiums subsidized by taxpayers.

@@mrg8581 Yep the rich stealing from the taxpayers. The American way. And many taxpayers dont even follow baseball.

In the NFL I believe it’s recorded by how many tickets are actually scanned in that day and in the building, not just by tickets sold. The MLB should use that same metric, but they likely don’t because of how poor a lot of teams’ attendance have been recently, they don’t want it to look even worse as you said.

It’s called a sell out not an attend out. While I’m sure more butts in seats would transfer to more concessions and mercy sold, once they’ve got your money the team is happy.

@@donkeysaurusrex7881 if they give away the tickets for free, do they count toward attendance, or only if the people show up?

Tickets sold is the only number that really matters.

When they use tickets sold they can make up any number that can fool the fans. Notice how they scatter ticket sales online to make the stadium look fuller. Imagine if all the fans in attendance moved down and filled up the closet seats first. A sight the teams don't want you to see.

Absolutely! I decided to draw the line a few years ago. This whole thing is ridiculous, period!

"Guardians" LOL.... that pretty much sums it up....what a f-ing joke!!!! Besides all of the dumb ass changes they brought to the game from the pitch clock, to limited throws to 1st base to keep runners from leading too far and stealing bases and putting a runner on base in extra innings, WTF? You want a reason why people aren't going to games, pressure from a-holes that would never, have never and will never attend a game causing the game to change. "If it ain't broke don't fix it."

The obscene prices of tickets, parking and food notwithstanding,.....how did they get to when the game is tied put a runner on second base,.....that is pure insanity.

On pay per view, lmao

Yep.

That has a lot to do with it.

100%

NFL attendance is fine. Maybe the teams on this list are disappointing, except for the Rays whose fanbase is non-existent.

I commented this a month ago and was ridiculed in the comments. Glad others see it too

Good comment

You just described White Sox baseball to a tee! 😁

Im with you. The quality of play doesn't match the pricing.

so don't watch and don't go crybaby - i skipped baseball for 19 years didn't miss it one fucking bit

Very well said.

Or have the blue jays play in buffalo again then they will get some fans even though I know it's a minor league stadium

It also depends on matchups. So far the Jays have hosted the Mariners, Rockies, Yankees, Dodgers, and Royals with the numbers we see here. The Rockies being a weekend series and the Yankees a weekday series definitely messes with the numbers, but the Dodgers and Mariners series were packed and the Royals series was maybe saved by giveaways and promotions. Given time I expect the numbers to normalize

@@Mallyumansky they are still top 10 in the league for attendance lol, they are averaging more than double a sold out Bisons game

Toronto Blue Jay's 😂

Let’s face it, the Maple Leafs always have a quick exit from the playoffs so that only accounts for about a week of the baseball season. 😂

What did they focus on?

Yea what are they focusing on then

What are you implying?

Yep, go woke go broke.

Yapper who thinks he’s smart I already know.

Good luck with that because the baseball players association doesn’t want a salary cap

​@@effend446they also didn't want PED testing and look how that turned out

What?! Baseball players wear caps. Do you want them to wear two caps? 😅

Not just that, but looking at it from a completely economic standpoint, there are careful studies that have concluded that contrary to conventional wisdom, a new stadium does NOT benefit the neighborhood economically speaking. If these are true (and intuitively they do), then why should I pony up money which will not benefit me or my community? I can justify my taxes going to keep the police and fire departments going as well as the water running. But not for a stadium.

@@DaDitka So, I'm from the Puget Sound area in Washington State, though not from Seattle. We got an ugly education about professional league 'financing' and ownership decisions back in the 90s with all three of our professional teams... the Seahawks, the Mariners, and Sonics [now the Oklahoma City Bombers - - yeah, that's what we call them, anybody with a problem with that can take it up with the Association]. So needless to say I'm more than a bit jaded about this. People can't afford housing, teachers are paying for school supplies out of their own pocket, there are cuts in police, fire, and EMS services and some billionaire wants me to pony up a billion dollars AND a sweetheart tax deal? Um, NO.

@carlhicksjr8401 I don't blame you at all. I really don't. What we are seeing is just another chapter of the story of how the super wealthy are abusing their wealth to the harm of others. As recently as around ten years ago, I might- MIGHT- have continued my support for publicly funded arenas like ballparks and such. Not anymore, especially with the flippant attitudes of these owners (and many of the players, but they don't make these decisions). By the way, I'm curious- what is the story behind you guys calling the OKC team the "Bombers"? I'm curious to know.

@@DaDitka About the 'Bombers' nickname... The Mariners and Seahawks originally played in the old Kingdome, a multi-use domed stadium that made absolutely **nobody** happy, not football, not soccer, not baseball, not concert promoters, nobody. So during the tech boom in the '90s the M's hustled the city of Seattle and the State legislature into funding a new stadium. This went down fairly well, there was a little grumbling but the M's were still owned by Nordstrom's, a local company, so people were kinda-sorta alright with it. Then the Seahawks came around looking for the same sweetheart deal and, since the K-dome had started falling apart, that was grudgingly approved. Now, the owner of the 'Hawks at the time was an asshole named Ken Behring... he wanted to move the team to LA and used the threat to get the funding though. It took some pretty suspect 'midnight legislating' to get it done, but it got done. Then the tech bubble burst. The state went from doing alright financially to damned near flat broke with major bills almost overnight. And that's when the Sonics came around looking funding for a new basketball-only arena. What a lot of people don't know is that the Sonics venue was Key Arena, a venue built for when Seattle held the World's Fair back in '62. It's in the same complex as the Space Needle. There was a lot of push-back about tearing the arena down because it was on the National Registry. But the Key had been unsatisfactory for at least 10 years before that. It didn't seat enough, there were no luxury box seats, and many of the courtside seats were taken by Sonics season ticket holders who'd been paying for those seats for decades. With NBA salaries rising in every department, even filling the house nearly every night was not making the Sonics profitable enough. With all that, Charles Schultz [founder of Starbucks] sold the team to Clay Bennett, an Oklahoma City booster. Now, the agreement was that Bennett was to make every reasonable effort to keep the team in Seattle. He fulfilled that agreement to its exact contractual requirement and then packed the team up and moved them OKC. The fans were **furious** . The fans of the Supersonics had done their job... they filled the venue almost every game. They bought the merch, they supported the team on road games. They did all the stuff everybody says 'real fans' are supposed to do. But because the state was in a recession as bad as California the NBA moved the team to a more profitable venue the instant they could, and Seattle fans felt like they had gotten the short end of a very dirty stick. What the state and the fans were able to do is force the Association to allow Seattle to keep the Sonics history and identity... including the NBA Championship the team won in '77. Because of all this, there as been bad blood between Seattle, the NBA, and OKC pretty much ever since. And because of that bad blood, the locals looked for the most disrespectful and offensive nickname they could find. And 'Oklahoma City Bombers' fit the bill.

Best response, way to go! So true. that's why I boycott all of this nonsense and I mean all of it.

TV contracts and potential expansion fees far outweigh gate attendance which is why they want to expand (I disagree with expansion FWIW). Teams like the Marlins have found ways to make money without gate attendance and a large investment into player salaries and many other teams have copied that blueprint. More cities means more revenue for the league overall (which is why the MLS keeps expanding despite many legacy clubs having less fans year over year).

truth

Good point dude.

It's just crazy to me as well! I've been to several stadiums that the team owner are screaming "this stadium is out dated we need to build a new one" and everytime the stadium seems great like it could go another 100 years! Why can't we just keep good maintenance and updates on out existing stadiums?

Its a way for politicians to fill their own pockets and get the support of very influential people to help keep them in office.

Don't care

Why would I spend entertainment dollars to get lectured on social and political issues?

Exactly. No baseball before mid April. No baseball after mid October. Baseball is meant to be played in warm weather.

Where the hell do you live? Here in SoCal, our weather is perfect for baseball in April and in October

@@jdspreestDetroit, Chicago, Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Minnesota, etc

April’s pretty much the only regular season month where the weather isn’t miserably hot and humid. Most teams don’t have domes with air conditioning.

I have some bones to pick myself. First off, I'd really like it if home-field in the World Series would alternate year-by-year. As it stands, the league champion with the better record has the extra game if it goes the limit. Have home-field in the League playoffs, but let the American League have it in either even- (or odd-) numbered years and alternate with the NL. Also, do away with haveing a runner on second to lead off extra innings. And finally, reserve interleague play for the World Series. Not that my recommendations have much chance of being adopted, but so glad to vent. Posting 5-14-24.

Can you imagine the ticket prices?

They will fail on an epic level

I heard he bit his tongue ladt week and that set his return date back 2 months

It all began with getting married. Plus one added to his contract along with plenty of other pro athletes declining in production following the big day.

You knew that going in

@@afridgetoofar1818 yeah no shit, but just shows how ridiculous they charge for games

But you paid it - so why would they lower their prices.

Insane.

Boycott!

They’d get a lot more attendees with free parking.

Free 😮

​@@notyourtypicalwatchreview2563 No they wouldn't.

That’s a stupid reply.

If you want economic help, you better vote blue. Monopolies are are not going to cut you any slack.

I’m surprised at how high their attendance is, considering they’ve (unfortunately) never had real success and still haven’t gotten over the hump. Not to mention the Dodgers have always been a thorn in their side.

@@RB01.10the chargers left town. Padres are the only team left so more people spend money on baseball

@@gnielsen07 I see. Didn’t the Chargers leave due to money reasons and San Diego not wanting to pay for a new stadium? I don’t live there but I’ve heard Qualcomm Stadium was in bad shape in the end.

@@RB01.10 Yes, there was a last chance ballot measure back in 2016 for a new stadium (after the NFL forced the parties to negotiate) but it failed badly. Qualcomm was in bad shape but the Chargers ownership had always had eyes on LA. They purposefully let it rot so they’d have an exit to LA.

@@RB01.10 yes that’s correct with Qualcomm, it was a dump and they tried to get the city to pay for a new stadium for 15 years. Eventually the owner just wanted his team with the LA brand and location to boost the value of the franchise. Made no sense cause Los Angeles has no Chargers fans lol there’s way more Raiders fans. They couldn’t even sell out a soccer stadium when they moved to Los Angeles

Not to mention economy aside, every team on the list is either at .500 or below lol. Why would you want to spend a lot of money to goto a game right now if your team isn’t even good or struggling? I know the blue jays will pick it up throughout the year but cmon, who wants to goto a White Sox or Rockies game rn in their given state. The Rays have a terrible stadium along with the A’s. The A’s attendance has been bad ever since the owner major leagued the team so they can move. All things this guy failed to mention. And to put into economy perspective back into it as well. 5 of these teams live in expensive ass areas with 2 in Cali, 1 NY, 1 Chicago, and Toronto.

Disney type prices at Ball parks are criminal.

It’s not the economy as the reason… if that was true then attendance would be down at ALL major league games and sports

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The economy is not Bad . Too many people do not participate in it thru investments . They spend first , then suffer .

The weather in n.y has been horrible Rain and cold almost every day Plus the mets parking and concessions prices are ridiculous. With a mediocre team to boot.

Really? I live here, too, and I might go!

No Shohei means cheap seats.

Anything before 7 in larger metropolitan areas with a lot of sprawl is too early. I'd say anything before 7:30 is too early.

That last part - THANK YOU! Lower attendance at Angel Stadium is due mostly to a losing team. And that start time certainly doesn’t help.

No Ohtani to pair with a perpetually subpar club equals bad attendance. SoCal is a baseball factory for producing players so demand for the sport will always be there, but unfortunately in Orange County people have plenty of amazing options for entertainment. No Ohtani & injured Trout don’t provide incentive to show up

Yes! This is probably the biggest reason for the decline. I was driving down the 57 the other day, and you should’ve seen the big ass lines on the freeway to exit off Orangewood and Katella. The game was about to start too. Whoever decided to have games start before 7 is stupid. Most people don’t get out of work until 5 or after, and the traffic is horrendous so even traveling 5 miles takes at least half an hour on any freeway. If they restore the 705 or even 735pm start like they used to have back in the day, the attendance will increase.

Honestly, it feels like most Angels fans, as messed up as it sounds, are simply waiting for Arte to die before returning. Selling would be preferable but we aren't going to get our hopes up for that again.

So sick and tired of those n b a soundtracks!

20 bucks is just the beer,

Entertainment money is being spent in many other ways and it's just as expensive. The problem is baseball has alienated their faithful fans, and it's only a matter of time until they really feel the pain. This is only the beginning.

@@roland7584when did they alienate faithful fans?

@@georgehenan853 I'lll start with having a DH in the NL and putting a runner on 2nd base in the 10th inning. I could go on and on with some of these awful rule changes. They've tried to change the game to get more fans that have an attention span like a gerbil and it's not working.

@@roland7584 well unfortunately in todays world most people have the attention span of a gerbil

Also the prices of everything in Toronto is off the charts.

The hope for a run in the playoffs this year are far less than last year. It's the reason for the attendance decrease.

I think Toronto is just sick of such a painfully boring sport. The Roger’s centre is still a terrible stadium to watch baseball

@@MarkLewis-qe4pj There's nothing boring at all about baseball. It's the best sport, and baseball enthusiasts love it. People who think it's boring just don't know anything about baseball. Rogers Centre really isn't that bad for baseball anymore.

@@stephanechamberland8486 It's also a smaller stadium this year isn't it, along with price increases? The key is if the attendance stays low through the summer months. No one really goes to games in April.

New York Mets ✨️

No it isn't.

I thought Mets fans rooted for the Nets and Islanders

@@donkeysaurusrex7881if New York fans were smart they’d cheer for any team in the NYC area

Hasn't affected the Yankees attendance

@@donkeysaurusrex7881 not this one. Knicks and Rangers are closest by proximity.

20 million metro area though. Mets should still have fans at the stadium

I hear you brother its rough. I been a Pirate fan for over 50 years. Our owner is a disgrace, he's to cheap to put a decent product on the field .

Y’all played my braves well this week

The Braves always put a winner on the field. One of the best organizations in all of professional sports.

Is that really his name.???

Fidelito Trudeau…

No they don't.

@@scarygary-qq1pj Yes they do

I was able to get A's playoff tickets for less than face value during their "glory" years of Money Ball. Fans have never been there regardless of who owned the team. MLB chooses to allow several teams to be run like a minor league team to feed the other bigger teams players when they need them. Until the league gets contracted, this will never change and it will be a detriment to the product on the field and the year to year competitiveness that the fans crave. The owners don't care about parity, they only care about how to maximize profit amongst themselves.

@@roland7584it wasn’t like that when the Hass family owned the team !!! Why because they had one the highest payrolls in MLB they invested in good players

@@Savi80 You're going back to a time before the baseball strike of 1994. The owners didn't look at competing in the same way ever since. Before the strike the owners were competing to win. After the strike, they realized it was them against everyone else (players, fans, local governments) and the only way they win is when profits are maximized between themselves. They haven't cared about the fans or the players or the local cities since then.

The Oakland Coliseum is Football stadium. Which doesn't help. Plus bad owner. Never sigh any great free agent or retain the great they drafted. it Oakland City mayor choice the Raiders and Warriors and now A all left. I think it might work out instead giving the billionaires money. Pay for better schools and run the city better.

Isn’t the traffic bad there as well?

Downtown Tampa Bay? Crime in the area isn’t the problem as it was years ago, the area is growing which is why the team wants to stay put because they see the potential. Also ownership is a big reason as to why attendance is the way it is despite recent success. Just a few years ago the owner hung a sign “Tampa Bay-Montreal” during postseason. That turned a lot of fans off. Traffic and accessibility also plays factors but that’s an issue no matter where the team is located. We also compete with beaches and many MLB teams have their spring training here so it’s hard for us to grow a base with transplants sticking with their home teams

@@RB01.10 no, the traffic is no more worse than any other team. That’s excuses from lazy people.

Still it’s unacceptable for a New York team to be in the same boat in terms of attendance as the rays or the A’s

They're still cutting Bobby Bonilla 7 figure checks on his deferred 1990's contract

@@TheOldTapeArchive Hey, at least you won in 1986 when the ball went through the legs of the Boston Red Sox first baseman.

@@willp.8120That, and have two World Series titles overall. More than five other teams who wish they had at least one.

I wouldn't go to a minor league game, in any sport, what's the point, ? I want to watch the highest level, in a sport, not some scrubs,

MLB is the best. I might go to 1 MLB game a year & watch plenty on KZfaq TV. So I'm already paying there. Long ago I reached the point when it became too expensive to attend. Have to eat/pay bills. I can watch any game and get enjoyment from it. There are plenty of good players at the lower levels. Nice to see them before they make it.

The Mets $45

If I’m Stephen Bronfman, I’m assembling an offer to purchase the Rays, readying them for a 2028 move to Montréal.

Chicago here. If that happened - I think the best name would be the Montreal Expos again withe the same logo.

Too cold in the spring and late fall. Need a dome.

Drunk. I'll drink to that.

Hockey was still going on too

@@stevejohnson1577True, midweek games in April are always a tough sell here. After Victoria Day it picks up. As long as they are in contention which is questionable this year.