lol true.

Nope. They go to Suburbia, nicer areas, but not too. too nice, might bump into the wealthiest... ones with Expensive attorneys, may know their boss's boss, etc.

Best advice

Remember Wako Texas in the early 90s.

This is in fact a fact. In fact the gun violence is encouraged

Nope, they "manufacture" criminals...

Waconian

ATF is a gang of criminals.

They’re afraid

@@miggzzz That's an understatement. They are cowards. We all feel fear 🤝

Well to be fair they can’t follow the paperwork trail to the illegal gun owners door and it’s way to hard to like yanno put boots on the ground and actually do good work. It’s hard to justify your budget if you can’t get easy results.

@@wuldntuliktonoptb6861 The point is they persecute the legal gun owners while ignoring the real problem - the people with stolen guns in gangs.

That is very true. They came up to me and it took me 2 years to fight it

Yeah they to damn afraid of the criminals.

Why would they bother they're best customers? ATF and criminals go hand and hand.

I mean technically THEY didn’t. They just allowed the straw purchases to continue

@@reaperundergroundexplorati2232 you misspelled forced.

@@FranklinRoads you’re right about that, hey we busted you doing this. Now keep doing it and keep this wire on you and we’re gonna monitor all the transactions.

Ask me how I know ☠️

Thanks obama

Liberty will never be restored in a courtroom. Fight back.

The feds got infinite money and time to devote to your lawsuit. You don't have those luxuries.

TRUE RABBIT TRUE

The FFL I deal with does the same thing. A dude was buying an AR pistol and a used G43X next to me and the guy working was like hey, just a heads up this will this be reported to ATF. They said come back in a week, pay a deposit and or in full if he would like. Dude was cool with it and ended up doing that to not end up dealing with more headaches. People don't realize a good deal on a used gun and another new pistol purchase could look suspect even when it's not. This nonsense is just one more barrier that will never stop criminals. They will send in 5 different people to buy guns and get them on the street vs buying multiple at once in most cases.

is this a recent thing?

Not always true I asked this specific question when I bought 2 hand guns just 2 weeks ago and they said and I quote “That’s bullshit” so either they don’t send my information or they wanted my money bad enough to lie, either way was getting 2.

Reporting on multiple purchases has been a thing since '86. I believe it's automatic whenever you fill out multiple 4473 in one day it sends an alert to the atf. I was under the impression that this also included the purchase of 2 or more rifles in one day also. It looks like that's something they've been doing or have been pushing to generally adopt since 2011.

I had been told about the 2 handgun gun thing years ago by a gun dealer but didn't realize it was within 5 days.

“Stay off the internet first off.” - Some guy using the internet.

N don't use a cellphone or aything

That's what they want. They want us to not be informed or talk to each other.

Don’t buy a gun. ATF never shows up. Outsmart them

@@deathbymazda yeah F that

That always blew my mind that making a gun more accurate makes it more lethal. I would say it makes it more precise. Sounds like they want stray bullets going all over the place.

@@tylerbenrich I think their whole agenda is backed by legal citizens shouldn't be sending bullets anywhere at all unless it's highly monitored on a range... You know. Sooner they can disarm all us law-abiding citizens the easier it'll be to get them from criminals..

Also ATF: *Refers Magazines as clips multiple times* *Makes up terms like Ghost guns, Zombie Guns*

RIP💔

True

I think he more meant the door knock of a dude who missed a court date, was entrapped, and as punishment "The Law" decided to murder his son, and his wife.....oh aaaaanddd ooooobvvviously his dog. And then lie about it.

You saw that video too,huh!

Probably zero because that would imply there's an possible risk to an ATF agent and most avoid that.

They wouldn't want to get any agents killed going after gang members. They scared real criminals.

None. Because the ATF doesn’t go after actual criminals and they would also be labeled as “racist” by the woke nut jobs for going after the people in those videos.

@@GoToPhxwhy is there a risk?

@@garden0fstone736 Because going after people who can defend themselves (legally/financially/physically) is not something most law enforcers want to do. In my experience, and from what I've seen, a good number of them prefer going after soft targets

Riiiiight.

If everyone is on a list, nobody is.

😂

So glad you said that, because my first reaction to this video was suddenly wanting to get on this list! Wondering if we could stress their computer if every gun owner in the USA intentionally got on their list. All on one day, or within a 2-week span, or something like that. If you can't afford multiple guns, get a friend or neighbor to call in an anonymous tip on you. And then return the favor and call ion a tip on someone else. Sounds like fun times.

Interesting might consider this methodology 🤣

The bill of rights doesn't grant you rights; only secures them against the government. These rights are self-evident and granted to all men by God.

@@rogerwood5228Thank you! I've seen so many gun owners immediately turn holier-than-thou over this issue. Fact is, ALL PEOPLE have these rights given to them by their creator at the moment of their creation. No country, border, or piece of paper will ever supersede that.

I have three words for the ATF and that is F T ATF I’m pretty sure you can fill in the missing letters on the other two words if I type in the rest of the words KZfaq loves you band me for 24 hours for speaking my mind which is 🐂 💩 I’m pretty damn sure that KZfaq is on the democrat side

​@rogerwood5228 Bless you, 0:46 sir. I follow the rules for other people, but God granted me the right to live and no man can stop that.

Yup💯

Thank you.

Thanks!

Saved me a bunch of time 👍🏾

🐐🐐🐐🐐

So, Gestapo tactics in a nutshell.

Nah, bill of sale for $1.

@@TerryCheever you have to leave off any mention of sale or a dollar figure because of the new rules regarding dealers. One sale may run you afoul of FFL rules, so don't say sale or put in any dollar signs

@@jeffhays1968 Yeah yeah, new rules, good point.

doesn't matter. they'll look at your books, ask you what all of these are, then figure out, and charge you with something. and if they can't, they'll make up another law and charge you on that. keep playing this game of keeping records and asking for permission and you'll keep winning the same prizes

Yes, if you are buying two non-C&R eligible firearms. If they are C&R eligible, you shouldn't be going through an FFL anyways.

It's way past time, it NEVER should have been formed in the first place!

NFA, GCA is null and void, they were legally void from the moment they were illegally unconstitutionally passed their unconstitutionality dates from the time of their enactment.

Supreme Court "The general rule is that an unconstitutional statute,though having the form and name of law, is in reality no law, but is wholly void and ineffective for any purpose since it's unconstitutionality dates from the time of it's enactment... In legal contemplation it is as inoperative as if it had never been passed... Since an unconstitutional law is void the general principles follow that it imposes no duties,confers no right,creates no office, bestows no power or authority on anyone,affords no protection and justifies no acts performed under it. A void act cannot be legally consistent with a valid one. An unconstitutional law cannot operate to supercede any existing law. Indeed insofar as a statute runs counter to the fundamental law of the land (the constitution)it is superceded thereby. No one is bound to obey an unconstitutional law and no courts are bound to enforce it." Bonnet V. Vallier,16 NW. 885,136 Wis. 193(1908); Norton V. Shelby county,118 US 425(1886).

​@@dragonf1092That was beautiful 🇺🇲

Thanks man

I have seen people who have been involved in a self defense shooting, a few have told the LEO on scene that they don't feel good and want to go to the hospital to be checked out. I heard of one man who said he needed to go because the stress of being near a self defense shooting made him think he was having a heart attack.

ruby ridge was fucked. all over a sawed off shotgun. Who hasnt sawd off a shotgun lmao especially when your young

For what purpose on this green earth would you need to "saw a shotgun". I'll wait for a reasonable and logical explanation but I am not expecting one.

Don’t forget about the recent killing of innocent man in front of his wife when the atf cut the electricity power off to the house the man thought they were being broken into within intruders fearing for his life, and his wife’s proceeded to go down the hallway With his legal firearm in hand that is usually lit all the time, but they cut the power electricity off to the house and within 50 something seconds he was dead a week prior they were going to do the same thing but they found out he wasn’t home so they waited until he got home instead of just talk to him reasonably

the people whose salary are dependent on the state fulfilling all of its policies rarely oppose its policies. no use talking to them. even if they act like they are open to feedback, it's way beyond the point of talking. neither side will ever "get" the other. one side has to go, whether that be through political, legal, or physical means. the concept of america as the founders envisioned is incapable of coexisting with the statist position.

@@cagneybillingsley2165 The *Tree...* ...She Is *Parched.🩸🌳🩸*

"Why do you think so little of us?" "Uhh didn't you guys kill a bunch of children in Texas one time?"

I consider myself immune because I don't have a dog.

💀🩸🌳🩸💀

This

They need Bruce Rivers the criminal lawyer.

You have to specifically invoke your fifth amendment right by saying something like “I’m invoking my fifth amendment right not to answer any questions and I would like a lawyer present if anymore questions are going to be asked. There’s case law that says it doesn’t count if you just remain silent or if you just say one word like “lawyer!”

@@nf4833 Okay, you took that literally. Try this: “I want my lawyer,” and then zip your lips. The caselaw to which you’re referring is _Salinas v. Texas_ (2013). Invoking your right to have an atty. present before, during, and after any questioning (the Sixth Amendment) clears the invocation hurdle imposed by the *insane* _Salinas_ decision. Professor James Duane explains this in his highly acclaimed book, _You Have the Right to Remain Innocent._ He discusses whether one should explicitly invoke the Fifth, and, ultimately, explains how the invocation of the Sixth is the better move. I hope this helps.

@@nf4833 that's not true at all.

@@nf4833 Who told you that load of BS? Show the case law. Simply remaining silent does not provide protections under the Fifth Amendment. Your right to remain silent needs to be an unambiguous declaration, but there is no particular phrase required. (Luna v. State, 301 S.W.3d 322). Simply stating you're not answering any questions and then remaining silent "is" enough to trigger Fifth Amendment protection.

@@nf4833 You took my comment too literally. Under _Salinas,_ you must explicitly invoke your right to remain silent (5th) or your 6th Amendment-guaranteed right to an atty., which inherently invokes your 5th: “I want my lawyer.” Then zip the lips.

It was the feds testing you is all 😅

4473s are unconstitutional therefore illegal, they are felony crimes in violation of Title 18 U.S.C. section 241 conspiracy against rights and Title 18 U.S.C. section 242 deprivation of rights under color of law. In violation of the supremacy clause, article 4 section 2 paragraph 1 (the citizens of each state shall be entitled to all privileges and immunities of citizens in the several states), second amendment (THE RIGHT of the PEOPLE to KEEP and BEAR ARMS, SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED),9th amendment (enumeration clause),10th amendment(nor prohibited by it to the states clause),14th amendment section 1(no state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the united states)of the constitution of the united states of America supreme law of the land.

​@@spaceghostcoast2coast614yea I'm thinking that may be the case. Seems odd they would not go for an easy one.

Probably had a baby with a nice tan

​@@justinpennington7682*'Them'* Again...🕵️‍♂️

Why do care? Must be a fed!!

@@jeffkendel1570 Is monkey code for Pookie?

Lmao

'Friends' don't make friends shell out some $5k to 10k+ or your life savings for a lawyer to defend yourself in court. Friends don't take ya to Fed prison to eat cold molded baloney sandwiches and mashed up food for years. Friend don't make u a felon, pay a fine and take away any tools you have for life. FRIENDS don't violently stomp your doors in at 6 AM with 10 - 20+ other friends looking like SWAT and all armed to the teeth, maybe a helicopter, SWAT armored truck and bulletproof shields like Branch Davidians, and shooting all ye dogs while at it and joking with each other afterwards, etc. 'Friends'...

If they wanted friends, they shouldn't have joined a gang of murderers.

Yall did catch the sarcasm, right?

@joelquinn2037 I like to imagine my comment has the tone of a mom lecturing a teenager.

@@joelquinn2037 xD

Do you also need a license to speak or a permit to purchase a newspaper in NJ? You people in commie states need to understand you have inalienable rights and do something about it.

No it is not. I work at an FFL and can tell you with certainty that’s not the case.

@@mase8189 might be using old forms. There have been 2 rounds of updates in the last two years.

Only rifle or handgun, with no other information is sent. Everything is on the 4473 but the BATFE can come collect the info for an "investigation".

The make is definitely on the form.

@@MrKeykeylikesit yes but that doesn’t get submitted.

agreed brother, god bless this country 🇺🇸

Yeah it doesn't say , except for. Shall not be infringed.

Yeak ok, bud

Look up Chambers flintlock machine gun.

Good way to protect yourself, an LEO range instructor I worked with got a visit at the station one day when a gun he had sold was recovered at a crime scene 1500 miles away years after the sale. The legal personal transfere documentation he did helped a great deal tracing the criminal.

@@billhouse8585 It's a great way to weed out the criminals. When you tell them you will be doing an FFL transfer, the baddies usually get pissy and walk away. I also ask if they have a CHL (Concealed Handgun License here in Arkansas). That's always a good indication they are on the level.

it's easy work. and it pads the conviction stats to justify the rules they make up and for more funding, which incentivizes the same policies ad Infinium. for sure they do catch career bad guys too, but it's usually not as easy as looking up retailer records or subpoenaing readily available customer name and addresses. criminals aren't buying guns online using credit cards

@@cagneybillingsley2165 this.

@@cagneybillingsley2165 They wait until someone else arrests them.