777 Gets Trapped Above the Clouds and Can’t Land

Рет қаралды 109,451

3 ай бұрын

777 Gets Trapped Above the Clouds and Can’t Land (Air India Flight 101)
Episode 5 of Air Traffic Control Stories
After a 15-hour non-stop flight from Delhi, India, on approach into New York, Air India Flight 101 began encountering multiple system failures.
None of the instruments in the Boeing 777-300ER meant to help the pilots land the plane were operational, such as auto-land and the Instrument Landing System. The weather in New York was poor and in some places, the cloud base was as low as 200 feet.
They couldn’t land somewhere else because the fuel was running out after the long flight from India. With multiple systems failing, low fuel, and no visibility, the pilots were responsible for the lives of 370 people on board.
This is the real conversation between the pilots and air traffic control on the morning of September 11, 2018.
Air traffic control audio licensed from LiveATC.net.
Unnecessary communications and pauses were trimmed for clarity.
The positions of the aircraft may not be 100% accurate. Only involved aircraft are shown. Animations are based on air traffic control communications and data from flight tracking services.
⤵ Get the best aviation merchandise:
theaviationcentral.com
⤵ SOCIALS:
Twitter » / officiallucaas
Instagram » / officiallucaas
Discord » / discord
TikTok » / lucaasyt
⤵ MUSIC:
Music is provided by Epidemic Sound » www.epidemicsound.com/referra...
Business inquiries? Reach me at » contact.lucaas@gmail.com

Пікірлер: 278

@ohlookitsasquirrel 3 ай бұрын

It's amazing what pilots go through when the passengers casually unaware, sit quietly behind them without a clue.

@FtanmoOfEtheirys 2 ай бұрын

Meanwhile, those of us who know what "could" be going wrong are also sitting casually unaware but asking ourselves: "i wonder what's happening in the flight deck right now?" lol

@phishbill Ай бұрын

..and a lot of pax probably bitched about diverting to EWR.

@ohlookitsasquirrel Ай бұрын

@@phishbill yep, can imagine the pilots thinkin "at least they are alive to complain about it"

@gerrycorbino66 3 ай бұрын

Amazing how calm and professional both the pilots and the controllers handled themselves during this very tense situation. It's always nice to watch a video showing the value of training for emergency situations.

@gtc1961 3 ай бұрын

getting upset and emotional doesn't help anything, it only hurts.

@gerrycorbino66 3 ай бұрын

@@gtc1961 Couldn't agree more but during an emergency situation it is very easy to slip into panic mode unless one is totally in control of their emotions at all times.

@gtc1961 3 ай бұрын

@@gerrycorbino66 not for professional pilots. I've been i aviation for a LONG time...naval aviation too...I never saw a pilot freak out. I think it's bred in them and during training you're constantly hammered with the order to "fly the plane"

@Dzordzikk 2 ай бұрын

Exactly. But most of that pressure was because they have too low fuel. When they will hhave more, pressure will be much less, they will have more time and more possibilities to divert to airport with better forecast. That pressure is only because airlines saving costs untill it is dangerous.

@CaptainJohnhonai 3 ай бұрын

They greatly handled the situation congrats 👏🏻

@BuffaloWarrior7 3 ай бұрын

Pilots did an outstanding job. No language barrier issues. Stellar communication from the pilots. ATC did a good job especially considering they were (and almost always are) juggling multiple planes that morning.

@sithabelamandlawenkosiwodu6298 3 ай бұрын

Communication was not stellar. Also should have declared an emergency so as to be given priority.

@stevemorris3710 3 ай бұрын

It must often be a concern for Indian Pilots, not knowing what the standard of English spoken by the American Controllers will be.

@f35t3r6 3 ай бұрын

Look up Kennedy Steve awesome atc controller that gentelman now retried :)

@BuffaloWarrior7 3 ай бұрын

@stevemorris3710 heard a lot of tapes with strong accents from all over the world. Especially in an emergency when there using terms they don't say often or trying to explain things in a foreign language it's not always clear and concise. They did a good job.

@stevemorris3710 3 ай бұрын

@@f35t3r6 Yeah he was great!

@awdken6 2 ай бұрын

This is a the pinnacle of aviation professionalism. Well done all around.

@Foxor83 3 ай бұрын

I feel communication broke down a lot here. JFK departures repeating questions multiple times even after Air India explained the problem. They seemed somewhat unshure what to do in this scenario where it wasn’t a simple go around.

@anon1832 3 ай бұрын

The comms in the first half were a shit show on all sides - reluctance to declare any level of emergency, too much irrelevant information, too few clear requests or options communicated, just creating workload for each other - they are lucky nothing else happened on top of this

@gogofuntime_yt 3 ай бұрын

The important thing is that they landed safely 😅

@cordial 3 ай бұрын

the pilots seem mainly to blame here.they repeatedly didnt answer questions about fuel left, gave initially vague comment about instruments failures and didnt declare any levels of emergency.

@yashrajsonawane4442 2 ай бұрын

thats what crew handled the situation calmly rather than panicking and declaring that they are in danger it will only make situation worse in the crew side,trainning and simulations flights helped them here@@cordial

@sho1715 2 ай бұрын

I was wondering why they didn’t declare emergency.

@RandomKSandom 3 ай бұрын

I love seeing people working well together like this.

@Lasse_Pedersen 3 ай бұрын

Thanks for this great video. Once more a great example of airmansip, teamwork and resilience

@volvodadfast 3 ай бұрын

EWR Ground got the number of souls onboard wrong by 100.

@tfdtfdtfd 2 ай бұрын

Right! Imagine the scenario of a runway evacuation with slides, when after the 270th person jumps out, the firemen shout to the rest to stay inside the plane, as they are only supposed to save 270. 😂

@jamesladino5567 3 ай бұрын

I Love your channel Luccas, it has continued to inspire me to chase my dreams of becoming a pilot. Thank you for helping keep my dream alive

@chombersSOpA 3 ай бұрын

Best episode to date in IMO

@faridghar 3 ай бұрын

It seems like a lot of redundant communication was due to a lack of deep understanding on the part of ATC around approaches (ILS vs. RNAV). I imagine this is not a requirement for ATC personnel but having this understanding might have helped in this situation.

@xxMyGodIsaDJxx 3 ай бұрын

Such professionalism 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

@nonpareilkumar7367 3 ай бұрын

Love from India 🇮🇳 bro

@hateeternalmaver 3 ай бұрын

Wow this format seems like something I'd enjoy very much. I'll report once done watching, Mr. lucaas. ^^

@hateeternalmaver 3 ай бұрын

Yes. You cut it together so well, one can't even imagine all the time and things in between the calls... Also amazing use of the music, just enough narration and I was digging the little "official NTSB-accident-report recreation software" there at the end. Cheers.

@m0r1k 3 ай бұрын

bravo! Thank you Sir! 😻😻😻

@Peter-pb8jg 3 ай бұрын

one of your best...

@ShaneH5150 3 ай бұрын

incredible skill and poise on display

@redwagnum 3 ай бұрын

So good to hear Kennedy Steve again.

@Oglongs 3 ай бұрын

I thought he was retired.

@wolftmfg 2 ай бұрын

⁠@@Oglongsthis was 2018

@ausieking 3 ай бұрын

The in cabin landing noise was a great addition to the edit!

@chomanthapa 3 ай бұрын

Kudos to ATC! 🎉

@androidphone1901 3 ай бұрын

Excellent video! They made it!!!

@BananaWormski 3 ай бұрын

Being an atc sounds like the most stressfull job ever!

@LiamBeatzz 3 ай бұрын

that's why they can only work two hours before they have to take a break

@BananaWormski 3 ай бұрын

@@LiamBeatzz yeah you’d need to mentally

@priyam352 2 ай бұрын

@@LiamBeatzzyep and they are forced to retire at like a pretty young age

@TsunauticusIV 3 ай бұрын

Amazing pilots

@rampy4963 2 ай бұрын

Wow. Can't believe how they were on two completely different sheets of paper. The pilot is asking for an RNAV APV approach while ATC has interpreted it as a localiser approach.

@Pablo-oo7rb 3 ай бұрын

Amazing information from that incident, thanks god landing safely ❤❤

@Wiki024 3 ай бұрын

Crazy that the 777 was on September 11

@CoordinatedCarry 3 ай бұрын

Except that those were 767’s.

@BigWhoopZH 3 ай бұрын

Yeah, crazy, all Airbus aircraft despawn on that specific date.

@Wiki024 3 ай бұрын

@@CoordinatedCarry fr

@Wiki024 3 ай бұрын

@@BigWhoopZH Real

@wazzazone 3 ай бұрын

A lot of things happen on September 11 there is a whole world outside America.

@robwells5753 3 ай бұрын

Good vids bro

@boldschool6308 3 ай бұрын

Unbelievable how many times ATC needs to hear same info from the pilot!! They are killing the time like a football game towards the end!

@MirrorGiants 2 ай бұрын

You've got the benefit of subtitles while they don't

@kenlin803 2 ай бұрын

They are managing multiple planes at a time. Also it wasn't clear it was emergency in the beginning of the missed approach.

@watermouse9296 3 ай бұрын

WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! INCREDIBLE

@robertg5393 3 ай бұрын

great job on the controller, and the crew side..

@kyledale3280 2 ай бұрын

Guys this has been chopped down from over an hr this was an incredible dangerous situation great flying and communication from pilots and atc

@ma9x795 3 ай бұрын

I find it hard to believe that in cases where an aircraft's ILS has gone u/s, there is no provision made to carry out a radar precision approach, even if it means diverting to a local military airfield. Yes, it's something else the aircrew would need to remain current on, but military aircrew seem to be able to manage it.

@trolliixz9595 3 ай бұрын

There is but they usually have higher minimums and cannot autoland

@donramown2495 3 ай бұрын

@@trolliixz9595Precision approach radar limits are as low as standard ILS limits. They don't necessarily require around

@jarrettleto 2 ай бұрын

I don't buy it for a second that they had all those failures. I dont know how 777 GPS works but to even use LPV capabilities on that but to be able to fly a LNAV/VNAV is wild. I'm guessing they knowingly dispatched this plane with all this inop equipment thinking there was such a low chance of 200 foot ceilings

@Adair9800 2 ай бұрын

@@jarrettletoI think you are making a good point. We don’t know what their dispatch MEL items are. What pressure is the Captain under to accept less than required MEL items, etc. Has the FAA not checked into the maintenance history and the dispatching of this flight? Not holding my breath with the FAA. Never had these type of failures nor ever heard of these (compound) failures during my years on the triple. Otherwise, I still give this crew a lot of credit for eventually making a successful divert and approach. Yeah, the low altitude alert bothers me, and all of the unknowns I mentioned.

@rdawgz866 2 ай бұрын

Yeah if the ils failed I don't see why they couldn't do a gps approach.@@jarrettleto

@robsmith6087 2 ай бұрын

nice work to all involved

@cooltube 3 ай бұрын

Great video👍🏻

@RobertGaz 2 ай бұрын

Yay. So happy for the story ending!

@ranchopatriot 3 ай бұрын

That's Kennedy Steve on Departure.

@dennisc6716 3 ай бұрын

They should really clone him.

@sailaab 3 ай бұрын

I wish I was into recreational drugs, narcotics. Then perhaps I could have asked for the stuff that you are on. This happened touching the last quarter of 2018. Stephen Abraham stopped being in that position (which you mentioned) in 2017. Also, as a non 'Murican'.. is often colourful demeanour, non standard phraseology and informal patter.. would often be out of context for those on international flights and/or not from the same region/country. I mean.. I don't know.. he thankfully tried to keep that (slightly unprofessional/ informal side) to mostly the domestic flights within that country. So I guess I could cut him some slack. In personal life, he is a repository of information and a good guy i think.

@realdjoffski7201 2 ай бұрын

Well done everybody involved ❤

@jackoneil3933 3 ай бұрын

Dang, major Pucker Factor on that one. Thanks Lucas.

@BirdTalk13 3 ай бұрын

😂😂😂 My little feathered birdie butt cheeks were clenched as well. 🐦‍⬛

@jackoneil3933 3 ай бұрын

@@BirdTalk13 Poor guys, I was remembering the feeling of those "How the hell did I end up here" moments when you are left two options: "Unbelievably bad' and 'Most likely fatal'. Flight safety is largely about options, and continuing flight into where all their alternates are basically '0-0', left them with basically three options: Successful Auto-landing with buggy avionics. Hand-flying a 0-0 landing and possibly crashing, or running out of fuel and crashing.

@robp.8807 3 ай бұрын

what team work!

@glennbaz2 3 ай бұрын

My deepest respect for that flight crew.

@KylerLaird 3 ай бұрын

I realize it might be weird for a 777 but I'd likely ask for a radar approach (and use a handheld localizer, if available).

@peoplesambassadordm8279 3 ай бұрын

Great pilotting...

@TiagoSeiler 3 ай бұрын

Sounds like the legendary Kennedy Steve in the approach frequency

@edwardtupper6374 3 ай бұрын

New York Tower Air India 101 Heavy, have you tried turning it off, unplugging it, waiting ten seconds, then turning it back on again?

@F_AEdits28 3 ай бұрын

Early to your vidoes also On september 11 💀💀

@theseshisneverover6472 3 ай бұрын

All them handovers. I still felt they was all informed and didn't stress the situation

@abdulabbas1562 2 ай бұрын

WAUWWW SO NICE TO HEAR!!!

@nG-iv4sr 3 ай бұрын

What was the reason for multiple Instr failures ? did AI declare as an EM aircraft ?

@lukelouisackerman 3 ай бұрын

Is there really no airports around there with ground controlled approaches? I don't know if airliners can fly PAR's but having at least a couple in the area for situations like this would be really helpful.

@woodrax 2 ай бұрын

Man, the Newark Approach ATC was cool as a cucumber.

@khygaming1892 3 ай бұрын

September 11 is crazy

@the_bloke_that_cuts_the_grass 3 ай бұрын

Shouldn’t they have at least declared PAN considering the multiple instrument and equipment failures and low fuel?

@jacobbaumgardner3406 3 ай бұрын

In the US there’s a strange aversion to using PAN-PAN-PAN. I don’t know a single person that has heard it used and only seen it a couple times on the web. I know it’s an Indian flight but there’s just this odd precedent set. From what I’ve seen it’s more common for pilots to say “declaring an emergency” if it’s an emergency but not immediately life threatening. If it becomes more serious then it goes strait to Mayday. Flight school across the country have been trying to correct his issue but it still persists.

@the_bloke_that_cuts_the_grass 3 ай бұрын

@@jacobbaumgardner3406 thank you, I didn’t realise that. TBH if I was in that situation I would’ve wanted to tell everyone!

@Jesse-ei6hq 3 ай бұрын

Exactly what I thought... In Australia I've seen a PAN declared for issues far far smaller than this.

@jacobbaumgardner3406 3 ай бұрын

@@Jesse-ei6hq yes, in my own schooling they used video lessons from Australia to force that point. Unfortunately older pilots in America are stuck in the past and so younger pilots are forced to adapt to the status quo, it’s a self perpetuating cycle.

@donQpublic 3 ай бұрын

I love a happy ending!

@larrygrossman8021 3 ай бұрын

Wow. I don’t remain that calm even when asleep.

@tiemji 2 ай бұрын

Great story

@55Vega55 3 ай бұрын

16:26 - incorrect number of souls. Might have been a bad mistake...

@TheEryk03 3 ай бұрын

souls weight almost nothing. Incorrect number of bodies would be worse.

@The93Vector 2 ай бұрын

Incorrect amount of fuel by a factor of 10.

@guilhem3739 3 ай бұрын

That's crazy the amount of information they have to be able to give and to receive while taking important decisions and piloting such a complex machine. Very impressive!

@superjody56 3 ай бұрын

Give those pilots a huge raise.

@MegaCoach68 3 ай бұрын

ATC at JFK did an awesome job as well !

@RedSupergiant 2 ай бұрын

The Pilots talked about LNAV/VNAV approach in favour of ILS, and later they mentioned opting for ILS, why did that switch happen?

@MrRjuh 2 ай бұрын

What is the MEL for this amount of unservicealbe equipmemts.

@ISLAMIMANSTRENGTH 2 ай бұрын

more vids like this plzz more more

@matthewanderson3210 3 ай бұрын

so cool

@tfdtfdtfd 2 ай бұрын

This should've been dedicated controller from the moment the pilot said something about TCAS failure very early on....also, the pilot didn't disclose at first the true reason for the go around, instead claiming the rather generic "unstable approach"

@LyoshaL 3 ай бұрын

Unlucky flight became a bit luckier with this😄

@genekelley7579 3 ай бұрын

🛑🛑 Cool Hand Luke on the Stick. 💯 My Hat is off to the pilot and crew. 💯👍

@abdulsharaf9528 2 ай бұрын

That pilot was fucken calm 😂

@nurrizadjatmiko21 3 ай бұрын

If they have some unreliable instruments but still have a plenty of fuel in their tanks (but kind of low fuel as the pilot said) maybe he should have said : "Pan Pan! Pan Pan! Pan Pan!". Overall, they did a great job handling those issues and made a safe landing at Newark.

@sithabelamandlawenkosiwodu6298 3 ай бұрын

Pan is only said three times.

@tfdtfdtfd 2 ай бұрын

Do you understand the amount of paperwork this would have generated? 😂

@justwilly6778 2 ай бұрын

Absolutely frightening to watch...

@sawyerhja 3 ай бұрын

This just shows that anyone can fly an aircraft, but ONLY skilled and highly trained people can handle an emergency. Full credit to the crew.

@notauser383 2 ай бұрын

Whatever has happened on Newark airport, is history. Our pilots have done amazing, Multiple failures with no APU available is quite risky. We wish you luck Air India and please for god sake, remove the new livery, it sucks. Good luck for the future!

@Rmm1722 3 ай бұрын

Wow 😮

@gtc1961 3 ай бұрын

I guess these planes aren't expensive enough to avoid these kinds of failures? Unbelievable. I haven't flown in many years but I do remember the controllers used to have aa thing called a radar precision approach where they could, essentially, guide the pilot down to minimums. But I think the ceiling might've even been too low for that.

@nkronert 3 ай бұрын

I don't know much about procedures, but I'm surprised that ATC didn't ask if the pilots would like to declare an emergency.

@Peter-pb8jg 3 ай бұрын

agreed, though it seems like the pilots might have done so at some point and it was edited out since they did have emergency trucks on the runway at Newark and Ground knew there were issues

@dennisc6716 3 ай бұрын

ATC seemed to be treating them as an emergency aircraft anyway. That's what really matters.

@nrakma 2 ай бұрын

The cockpit tape was accidentally erased and the fuel tanks had slightly less* than last stated 7,200 pounds. * 27 gallons us.

@charlieplayz1427 3 ай бұрын

❤❤

@VideosofIan 2 ай бұрын

Kennedy Steve!

@yogimarkmac 2 ай бұрын

I'm not an aviator, but a quick search and a few calculations gives maybe 45 minutes of flight with 7200kg of fuel, probably only half an hour at low altitude.

@donramown2495 3 ай бұрын

Does anyone know with how much fuel remaining they handed, ideally in minutes??

@rorymichael1730 2 ай бұрын

777W burns 7500kg/h so less than 45 mins probably

@juli99475 3 ай бұрын

I think - although it all went well - the controller could have handled the stiuation better and also the pilot was not 100% clear in his communication. The pilot was talking about an VNAV approach, he ment an RNAV approach. The controller did not understand what the pilot meant by a "VNAV" approach. It all would have been a bit easier if the controller knew what a VNAV or LNAV/VNAV approach is. From pilot's perspective it makes sense to talk about LNAV only LNAV/VNAV or LPV because this is important for the minima, however the controller usually doesn't care about this. In this situation it would have helped, if the controller knew.

@cjthesloth189 3 ай бұрын

Fun fact: my grandpa was an engineer that designed the Boeing 777

@ProCodeGaming 3 ай бұрын

It had to be on September 11 💀

@johncoinas 2 ай бұрын

Honestly i think if they just declared a emergency the controller wouldve listened and got everyones attention

@Molon_Labe1776 Ай бұрын

Wow. Can't believe that the Air India pilot had better English comprehension than the atc.

@alexeilindes7507 2 ай бұрын

Thing is. He never declared emergency

@johnthompson7420 3 ай бұрын

can we pitch in and buy the narrator bot a sinus operation?

@shauryakumarraj6422 2 ай бұрын

Why did that happen in September 11

@rustynuts4426 2 ай бұрын

Ohhhh dear

@stephenbartley8133 2 ай бұрын

HMMMM... Air India... Why doesn't that surprise me ?

@whenyoualone 3 ай бұрын

❤

@ladygardener100 2 ай бұрын

Bestnot to use slang like "shoot the ILS". I always use formal radioi phrases at all times patricularly in an emegency. The pilot is in command and has explained his decision,

@carolynpatterson5217 2 ай бұрын

Sounded like Kennedy Steve.

@devansh8846 3 ай бұрын

Proud Indian 🇮🇳

@ss10483 2 ай бұрын

No, you should be ashamed AI 101 had to go through this. This should have never happened at first-place.

@devansh8846 2 ай бұрын

@@ss10483 anything can happen to a machine. No matter how reliable and robust it is. I'm proud that even after all this pilots managed to get down everyone safely.

@ss10483 2 ай бұрын

@@devansh8846 No.. absolutely not. Be proud of those skilled pilots. Regarding "machines" It's called zero single point failure policy in aviation. And I am angry that this incident happened so long back and till now no DGCA report is publicly released.

@devansh8846 2 ай бұрын

@@ss10483 well, that's true. I agree.

@sithabelamandlawenkosiwodu6298 3 ай бұрын

Cre repeatedly asked to give fuel remaining in a specific format and did not.

@dighyash8905 3 ай бұрын

Why always September 11💀

@BigWhoopZH 3 ай бұрын

Confirmation bias

@bethanyflora6555 3 ай бұрын

Situations like this happen every day.

@LiamDennehy 3 ай бұрын

Is that Kennedy Steve?

@ladygardener100 2 ай бұрын

I know atc need to know the problems, but spending so long on radio is mak8ng life difficult for the flight crew.

@duckbilldaniel 3 ай бұрын

A 777 can carry inbetween 99,000 and 137,000 kg of fuel(from a random google. ). So, they were at about 7% capacity a few minutes before landing. Not sure on exact burn rates, but at high altitude and efficiency its in-between 6600 and 10000 kg/hour. Much higher at lower altitude. Optimistically they had an hour of fuel. Realistically, they probably had far less. It took 20 minutes to hit the ground. So id guess they had 10 minutes or less of fuel remaining. They are very fortunate that it didnt get worse. They are very fortunate that they didnt have worse burn rate coming in, and they are very fortunate that everyone kept a cool head and worked together so fast.

@scud-runner 2 ай бұрын

Do none of these airports do PAR (precision radar approach)? This would be ideal in this condition and get the pilots down as low as an ILS would.

@brocanova 3 ай бұрын

Anyone can translate the 7,200kgs gas into minutes - any chance for a low pass or go around that way?

@SureshKrishna5 3 ай бұрын

Yep, I too will wait for someone who knows to respond.

@abhiwithwings 3 ай бұрын

A google search shows the fuel flow to be around 7000kg per hr in cruize.. so at a lower altitude, it would be a bit less. So about an hour of fuel or less. I guess they would have had to declare a mayday fuel if they were unable to land there.