Caan you know as well as anyone the shop staff are usually not clued up. This was a clear palp. The old bloke with the newspaper price was a disgrace, not this

@@grimacemcdonald1 The shop staff didn't price the bet, the people they phoned at HQ and in the trading department did - and they knew better. Can'te even do this stuff in the US, the businesses should be responsible for their own business. Once the bet is made, stakes are accepted, they should be made to pay. End of story.

Had the same with paddy about 10 years ago had a quid on league cup final swansea to win 5-0 correct score @ 500/1 they won the cup 5-0 & im refreshing & the win is ticked but no payment eventually i get to talk to them & they used that palpable error thing saying the odds were for 5-0 AT HALF TIME whch is horse sh*t cos the default long odds outside of the priced 1-0 ^ 3-1 markets etc is ALWAYS 500 /1 ( on the website that is ) they didnt pay & i made complaints to everyone from betting watchdogs to Sinn Fein but nada

Dang your country is backwards as fuck you should get some guns disgusting

I work in the gaming industry. Mainly casino but with sportsbook knowledge and RG history. I'd be interested in a podcast style chat with you for your viewers if you want? Can go into most of this and even the doc requirements. Fun spoiler - I agree with you mostly.

your court date is tommorow!

This happens believe it or not

@@chrisd3471 so it should. It’s absolutely disgusting what bookies do to rob their customers

@phillipwilson206 can't say nothing really we've all gotta make a living and it's those mugs who go in and bet there hard earned money

@phillipwilson206 oh sorry only just watched the whole video my bad

Yeah I agree with you, it should stand, shouldnt matter if the gambler or the company made a mistake.

In that case a cashier could give whatever odds they wanted to someone and they then all stand

@@strawmanuk Yes, but that would then mean the cashier has committed theft. For example, I used to work at a retail store, and a colleague "accidentally" handed out significantly more change than required. They were fired. If an employee was to give out ridiculous odds, without following their own company rules and policies, I.E. Calling head office and asking for their permission, like they have done in this case, then they could be liable for theft. If the bet and odds are agreed, and accepted by both parties with signed approval from both sides, the bet should stand. The employee is hired and in a position to represent the company, by the company. Therefore, the company should be liable for any actions committed by the employee. If the employee has committed any offences, such as, taking company property, giving away company properties, or as you've suggested, giving out outrageous odds, then the company of course all without approval, then the company can of course investigate, and potentially charge that employee for theft. However with this case, the cashier had phoned and contacted their higher-ups and had gotten the green light to go ahead. So therefore, the bet should stand. This is clearly a tactic used by betting companies to prevent them from paying out big winnings. I do understand that sometimes mistakes happen and miscommunications occur. In that case the company should be working out methods to prevent this from occurring. Otherwise, this "Palpable error" rule can be abused. Imagine going to a casino, winning a 36/1 bet on the roulette table, then to have the floor manager come over and tell you, "Sorry, that dealer isn't supposed to be handling that table, as they are still in training, therefore that round is void." And for that to be ALLOWED, this is a similar situation this is in now. Betting companies do need to be protected for fraud and theft, but so do people who place the bets, to have their bets actually honoured.

@@FlawlessLearning well casinos do do this kind of thing. I get your point however

The bookies shouldn't take bets like that if there is any chance of getting the wrong odds. A machine should verify the odds and payout, like in the US a machine pays out the tote bets at the track.

I'd visit the employee at home mate. No way I'm leaving it

I don't see it as that bad. Are you working on the assumption that they are lying? A mistake was made, it happens.

@@ruanoosthuysen5002 You horrific scumbag

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@@TheDantheman12121 if you go get a pint of milk for 10p cheaper than normal, scanned it at the checkout and then on the way out of the shop security take the milk off you and claim Tesco only meant to give you 100ml of milk and then open it and pour it on themselves and then give the 100ml back you just bought you’d be vexed. No different

Ye seems quite off doesn't it. Especially when the shop staff and trading department approved it and the slip was signed due to a query... they seem to be able to make up their own rules. Toothless regulator.

Bullshit.

"yes" but THe Insurance Company would charge more,if,for example,you added "Business" to Social and Domestic.

£750 john or they lose there lisence

Unfortunately private businesses are able to accept and decline any business they wish to. That's capitalism.

Not true, gyms can’t refuse black people. And refusing someone on their winning status is still discrimination

There is a limit.

I'd guess they were each probably closer to Netherlands to score 3+ vs Qatar (around 2.0) so the 12.16 odds at an average of 2.3 (13/10) each result does sound fair. You'd assume he was smart enough to recognise that which is why he stated he staked much more than he ordinarily would and so likely had some awareness that he'd stumbled across a palp and sought to exploit it. That said, with ones like this that are checked manually by both shop and head office staff it should (IMO) be for the bookies to take it on the chin and pay out - ban the fella from future bets if you think he's pulling some sort of blag. Certainly a big difference from something like a printing error on a betting slip which could easily be something punters bet on without any employee spotting the issue, for which the palp rules seem more reasonable.

Tbh he probably didn’t get shafted anymore then you normally would from a 3 selection Acca. France to score 3 against Belarus would be shorter then evens. Argentina around 6/5 against Paraguay and wales were nowhere near the level they have been the last 5 years. On top of that you get more goals in qualifying then you do in tournaments which will factor into the price. All in all I don’t think the recalculated fee is necessarily a rip off in terms of the odds you’d expect a bookie to offer.

Then wants to put his winnings on a new car instead of saving or investing it 😭

IKR I can't bet 100 beans and im employed, by a bookmaker xD

Push off Muppet and get a proper life.

Glad you enjoyed it!

Doesn't suprise me, palps happen a fair bit tho. If you won...

That's lucky. Whenever I had issues no one wanted to know, you could literally stand outside with a placard saying this place dont pay out and punters would still throw money over the counter thinking it wont happen to them.

@@satchelyork small knit community helped I suppose everyone knows everyone

That's very lucky considering managers have very small discretionary payout limits (usually about £50) the decision to pay him out would have had to have come from someone very very high up

Irrelevant. The company has to wear it.

Court fees though?

Small claims court. Very low fees (from memory about 50 quid) and you get it back if you win.

The problem being; in these kind of cases the regulator and 'independant' dispute resolution services tend to side with the bookies. It's disgusting. So many of them are exploiting document checks in the name of "preventing harm" recently when really they are just using them to avoid paying out winners...

I did, have you seen the shots on target video earlier in the year? If you search the channel page you will find it.

I bet on that messi sot too it ruined my build a bet when if the keeper hadn’t saved it, it would have gone in. 🤬

Or powers

So obvious the shop staff and the trading department didn't spot it? I think really palps shouldn't be allowed like the US. If they make an error, it's their problem isn't it? People don't get to go back to the shop after their bet and say I made an obvious mistake I meant to write something else on the slip. Any other industry a business wouldn't get away with it.

I get the need and they in my opinion after watching these videos I think its fine that they be "returnable" any time up until the first results countable are evidenced. Any second up until that first 3+ match went 3 goals high Coral should be allowed to fix this. The second that deadline is passed, they should be bang out of luck. If this system worked, the second he walks in with that ticket, they shouldn't be saying "come back tomorrow" it should be "there's an issue with this bet".

@@CaanBerryProTrader Had this been a mistake by shop staff who has a rule haven't got a clue then fair enough. That said however the moment corals traders the professionals if you like involved themselves in this transaction that i would say automatically legitimises the odds on offer where this bet is concerned.

The fact he got the shop staff to sign it tells you he knew it was an error. Maybe he was told to come back because person who makes the decisions wasn't at work that day.

@@sedontane if this bet was a special bet it would likely be sitting in the system and required manual settlement. Depending how proactive the staff are there is a chance the staff that was on duty the following day didnt know the bet was in the system and that it won. The issue likely flagged when they asked head office for permission to get cash/payout the bet and someone reviews the bet in head office.

they do, highes tax payers are the gambling companies

If I ever do a bet with a big payout I am going to get them to sign in advance that it isn't a palpable bet and they know exactly what the bet is for. I'll take a picture of them holding their ID for good measure.

Why didn't you lie to the office?

Different challenges though, they still find ways to refuse winnings and close accounts.

...but they seem to carry on mate.

More reason to beat the bookies. The worst one has to be unibet, the amount of cases I've had with them and meetings with solicitors is shocking. Long story short, allowing me to deposit thousands of pounds but then closing my accounts, claiming I have never provided proof of funds etc etc. Complete bullshit.

And they close accounts after I have won big.

This isn't the first scam Ive heard at coral I just read a guy placed a bet for ten pounds on Argentina to win the world cup Messi top scorer and a France Argentina final he should of got 15 grand they offered him 660 pounds I won't be placing another bet at coral there corrupt

More chance online of trying to log in and being told the account has been flagged for suspicious activity i.e winning.

The odds were more likely different online than what was shown in the bookies. Clerical error, but shouldve been flagged by someone at the shop or over the phone.

Because sometimes you don't get the best prices online and if you want to be a successful gambler, you have to take the best odds for the best value. Also when you start winning big, maybe a 9k payout, your account is in the shit and they will try their hardest to refuse paying you out.

Its the worst bet ever a total con skybet should be called slybet utter vermin

How can they even determine that unless you actually ask Messi

How could they know you and your previous bets for years even online they dont go back that far

You're wrong, the bet was for each team to score 3 goals or more. All teams scored 3 goals or more. I think in the video there is a visual mistake but in all of the articles about this, the bet was team goals 3 or more. You are thinking of over/unders market on match goals rather than team goals.

...but didnt get paid.

It was probably a special bet with a maximum 20 quid stake.

@@tonybroderick4808 it wasn't the bookies claim the incorrect bet was placed hence why the odds were so high. The crookedness lies in the fact that his bet was checked on the the telephone and signed by the coral employee yet they still refused.

Every Gambler does not die broke. MOST do which is why Bookies are rich but my best friend, a Cambridge University Science Graduate gave up a 100k per annum Accountant job(he is a qualified Accountant) to bet full time. He doesn't earn so much but does not get involved in Office Politics or have to get up @5am anymore. He is extraordinarily DISCIPLINED and if any Sport does not pay,he is out of there like greased lighting.. Currently, he has taken £550,000 on the World Cup and is winning £5,500 after Commission which is just 1%. He has NO opinion but does tremendous research and bet, without money for 6 months to see how he would have done,if he actually backed up his bets with cash and then after 6 months, he was confident he would make it pay and once in front NEVER gives more than 10% of the profit back as they are all "calculated" risks.

You're wrong, only gambler who dies broke is the one betting on virtual horse races. You must be mad

Sorry to hear that

If there was another 0 on those winnings you would've been waving bye bye

Because bookies in UK don't have to honour bets under UK law. If they don't honour any winning bets they wouldn't have any customers left, so they look for ways to justify not paying large winning bets. If a uk customer gambles on a UK bookies website and wins more than the bookies are happy with their account is limited for future bets or completely shut down. If the punter opens a new account it will also be closed down when they try to place their first bet. The computer system produces a league table of all the customer accounts. The accounts at the bottom are those that lose the most money making them the bookies best and favourite customers. The accounts at the top are the biggest winners and they are bad for business in the eyes of the bookies because if someone wins big they are likely to withdraw and spend the money on real estate holidays and fancy cars. The UK bookies aren't the best caterers for the rich who gamble large sums like bookies in America. The UK rich tend to gamble with offshore bookies. Hope this helps

@@pottersmiles7238 Any bookies in mind that allow big stakes for big wins?

And to confirm it's not a palpable mistake.

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