8 Common Chisel Sharpening Mistakes To Avoid

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Rob Cosman shows you the eight common chisel sharpening mistakes his students make. Learn to avoid these mistakes to get a scary sharp chisel.
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@RobCosmanWoodworking
@RobCosmanWoodworking 11 ай бұрын
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@2112kustoms.
@2112kustoms. 11 ай бұрын
I personally think the number 1 issue is, people dont enjoy sharpening. Once you get over the fundamentals and get a grove for it. It makes wood working so much fun, knowing you can sharpen anything, it works to the best of your abilities and you creativity with the given tool. Such a pleasure. ❤
@steh8217
@steh8217 11 ай бұрын
Totally agree, whereas I enjoy sharpening, but I don't have a dedicated sharpening station, and I use wet stones. So setting up for sharpening and packing away is a whole thing. I'm considering moving to diamond plates and setting up a dedicate sharpening station and then I won't mind sharpening in the middle of doing something 👍
@2112kustoms.
@2112kustoms. 11 ай бұрын
@steh8217 as rob always stresses, Get The Best Sharpening Gear! I use my shapton stone pretty offen, and I Sharpen other people's knives and tools to shoe the level an edge can become. A couple are going on 6 years. Zero issues, and top notch results.
@tektrixter
@tektrixter 11 ай бұрын
I'm the oddball that enjoys sharpening and sanding :)
@RobCosmanWoodworking
@RobCosmanWoodworking 11 ай бұрын
Well stated
@david25876
@david25876 11 ай бұрын
Great point!
@kentboys5017
@kentboys5017 11 ай бұрын
Sharpening is the most important skill I learned at the workshop when I was there. Great video! Take care👍🏻
@RobCosmanWoodworking
@RobCosmanWoodworking 11 ай бұрын
And you sharpen so well!!!
@b-radg916
@b-radg916 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for this timely video! I’ll try this technique next time. I’ve sharpened kitchen knives for years, but am just starting to do chisels and haven’t tried a plane blade yet.
@marcmcgettigan3580
@marcmcgettigan3580 10 ай бұрын
great video. thank you
@horsetowater
@horsetowater 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for explaining #1 like this.
@artswri
@artswri 11 ай бұрын
Great info Thanks?
@arthurmccutchan7000
@arthurmccutchan7000 4 ай бұрын
Thankd
@ued_general5805
@ued_general5805 10 ай бұрын
Great video! I would love to see sharpening methods on rounded tools like scorpe.
@user-qg6fy4yp8t
@user-qg6fy4yp8t 11 ай бұрын
Thanks! Free hand sharpening changed the fluency of my woodworking dramatically!!! Keeping it fast and simple! Thanks to you!
@RobCosmanWoodworking
@RobCosmanWoodworking 11 ай бұрын
Glad you found your sharpening groove
@glencrandall7051
@glencrandall7051 11 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing. Have a great day and stay safe.🙂🙂
@RobCosmanWoodworking
@RobCosmanWoodworking 11 ай бұрын
Same to you
@alexanderkononov1113
@alexanderkononov1113 10 ай бұрын
Nice!
@barry.w.christie
@barry.w.christie 11 ай бұрын
Excellent explanation of how to sharpen chisels properly ... one of these days I'm going to spend a few days and take some bog standard chisels and make then sharp ... I'll be referring to your videos again before I do that 👍
@RobCosmanWoodworking
@RobCosmanWoodworking 11 ай бұрын
And I bet you get very sharp chisels
@dpmeyer4867
@dpmeyer4867 11 ай бұрын
thanks
@charlesgarnier4255
@charlesgarnier4255 8 ай бұрын
Thanks, bud
@JamesSmith-su3oz
@JamesSmith-su3oz 10 ай бұрын
Now that I have watched this video x2 I can now not sque my 1/4 and 1/8" chisel with out the " what did I do" disappointing result. Thanks Rob and team.
@danthechippie4439
@danthechippie4439 7 ай бұрын
Hi Rob, I noticed that shapton supply very course stones, 120, 220 and 320 grit I think. Have you ever been tempted to try them in regards to speed up the flattening of the back of the chesils?
@fayz44awad
@fayz44awad 11 ай бұрын
❤thanks
@RobCosmanWoodworking
@RobCosmanWoodworking 11 ай бұрын
You bet
@J.A.Smith2397
@J.A.Smith2397 10 ай бұрын
Yes sir
@brewtalityk
@brewtalityk 5 ай бұрын
Your hair is so dope bro. oh yeah thanks for the great content
@mkplante
@mkplante 11 ай бұрын
Hi Rob, spent quite a bit of time recently on a "Pfeil" chisel from Woodcraft. 15 hours total. First time. Got 3-3.5" of mirror finish, but I don't want to repeat that experience! It had a back bevel, either due to manufacturer error or my incorrect technique. Did all Shapton after realizing Trend is concave at about 30-40um. So Shapton DGLP, 500,1k,2k,4k,8k,16k, sometimes stepping back and starting over. Flattened stones frequently with pencil grid. Running water. So I have a few questions before I dare touch my shiny new IBCs (which do not quite pass the fluorescent tube test). 1) can you flatten on the side of a grinder? (I have CBN, so no risk of shattering, but fixturing is an issue) 2) is it worth practicing on a hardware store chisel first? or will it be more frustrating than educational? 3) how did you make your mirror polish go much beyond the width of a shapton stone (3")? Is it just that flat to start? Or do you ever work from the end instead of the side of the stone? Thanks for your great videos!
@RobCosmanWoodworking
@RobCosmanWoodworking 11 ай бұрын
No to the grinding wheel. No to practicing on a cheap chisel. When I do an IBC chisel I take the handle off and run it parallel to the length of the stone. This way it flattens from bow to stern.
@croney90
@croney90 11 ай бұрын
I always have the issue when flattening wider chisels and plane blades where it feels like I'm hydroplaning over the finer grit stone such as my 12,000 grit. Is there a technique to avoid this?
@RobCosmanWoodworking
@RobCosmanWoodworking 11 ай бұрын
Apply a few drops of liquid dish soap to your water bottle and see if that helps
@purpleyams8738
@purpleyams8738 10 ай бұрын
Where did you find your sharpening tray? Would you mind sharing a link please?
@daveklein2826
@daveklein2826 10 ай бұрын
I don't know about his but I measured my stone holders and went to a few stores and found a winter boot/shoe tray and it has worked great for a few years now
@dennishanes2165
@dennishanes2165 11 ай бұрын
What is the grit of the diamond / flattening stone, please ? Thx
@RobCosmanWoodworking
@RobCosmanWoodworking 11 ай бұрын
325 grit
@dennisspiehs4593
@dennisspiehs4593 11 ай бұрын
What is your opinion of Clifton hand planes
@RobCosmanWoodworking
@RobCosmanWoodworking 11 ай бұрын
Old Clifton or new Clifton?
@dennisspiehs4593
@dennisspiehs4593 11 ай бұрын
@@RobCosmanWoodworking new model
@edualbergaria10
@edualbergaria10 11 ай бұрын
May I ask you to do the pressure you do sharpening on a scale? So we have a mesured go to pratice.
@RobCosmanWoodworking
@RobCosmanWoodworking 11 ай бұрын
The description we give is. The pressure your would press on a grape without breaking the skin. If I can only use light, medium and hard then its light pressure
@edualbergaria10
@edualbergaria10 11 ай бұрын
@@RobCosmanWoodworking I mean, literally a scale. To be mesured in grams and pounds. That grape thing do not work for me.
@daveklein2826
@daveklein2826 10 ай бұрын
Guess you better learn grape pressure
@edualbergaria10
@edualbergaria10 10 ай бұрын
@@daveklein2826 there are 5 kinds of grapes in Brazil. Each one with diferents pressures.
@daveklein2826
@daveklein2826 10 ай бұрын
Eddy, if you know that5 different kinds of grapes have different pressure points... You certainly can figure it out....if not, have someone else sharpen your tools....thank for playing
@Putnik1988
@Putnik1988 11 ай бұрын
Мужик , привет тебе из России! Я давно на тебя подписан , и давно смотрю твои видео . Удачи тебе 🖐️
@RobCosmanWoodworking
@RobCosmanWoodworking 11 ай бұрын
😏😀
@jlinkels
@jlinkels 4 ай бұрын
I am wondering why you use ceramic stones for actual sharpening. As you point out, these get unflat and you need a diamond stone to flatten them again. Why not using diamond stones to sharpen. Just asking.
@anthonysteventon1518
@anthonysteventon1518 10 ай бұрын
wanted to know how to make Robs dovetail chisel , remember watching a video Rob had done ,showing the process of grinding the side bevel on his bench grinder, have searched and unable to find it, can any one help?
@daveklein2826
@daveklein2826 10 ай бұрын
Just buy his chisel
@anthonysteventon1518
@anthonysteventon1518 10 ай бұрын
@@daveklein2826 I like making tools. It’s enjoyable to me
@trevortoop5166
@trevortoop5166 10 ай бұрын
Jesus! You have risen!
@Gwarziggy
@Gwarziggy 11 ай бұрын
As far as some people not enjoying sharpening goes, it’s all making. Wether it’s a box for your parents remains to a holder for pens to sharpening its all making. Enjoy all the steps in the process and therefore nothing is a chore. If you don’t enjoy the task there are multiple ways to spend your remaining time on this spinning globe
@RobCosmanWoodworking
@RobCosmanWoodworking 11 ай бұрын
Well stated
@robohippy
@robohippy 11 ай бұрын
Still trying to wrap my head around how you progress through the grits on the back side of the chisel, but skip grits on the micro bevel, or in your case, micro bevels. I am still stuck in the old school thinking of you need to polish out the scratches from one grit before you progress to the next grit. Supposedly the human eye can see grit scratches up to the 600 or 700 range and then after that, you need magnifiers. If I don't polish out the scratches, then is seems to me that I would still have 600 or so scratches on my cutting edge. I do realize that most of the time you are just touching up the micro bevel, and most of the time it shouldn't need anything beyond polishing.... I can still feel a burr after using the 16000 grit stone. Not so with the 30,000 one though. I still strop. Old habits....
@RobCosmanWoodworking
@RobCosmanWoodworking 11 ай бұрын
You have to progress through the grits on a chisel back because of surface area. On a bevel, employing micro bevels, the surface area is measured in thousandths of an inch. Hence why you can make the jump so quickly.
@robohippy
@robohippy 10 ай бұрын
@@RobCosmanWoodworking Hmm, still pondering this. I don't think my secondary bevel ever gets to 1/8 inch, though 3/32 probably,. and then I regrind the primary bevel. I don't use the 3 bevel system, but may try it. As my bevel gets wider, I can see scratches from the coarser grits, though for touch up, I start at 1000. More experimenting ahead.
@carlantaya175
@carlantaya175 11 ай бұрын
I got a couple hypothetical ruler trick related questions, not practical at all I'm just curious what your thoughts are. 1) If the ruler were inverted so that the blade is lifted up slightly and then back ground down until you have uniform line across... somewhere along it. You could then do the ruler trick again the standard way at the point of the grind marks on the back it should still function as long as the back of the chisel is slightly hollow? 2) If you were to somehow keep the ruler/shim on the back of the chisel it would still function? Thanks, love your videos.
@mickeyd9369
@mickeyd9369 11 ай бұрын
Oh no, the protest hair has been immortalized... lol
@CorbyQ
@CorbyQ 11 ай бұрын
I love the facial hair and head of hair.
@RobCosmanWoodworking
@RobCosmanWoodworking 11 ай бұрын
The hair is getting a bit bothersome
@tylersmith9868
@tylersmith9868 11 ай бұрын
​@@RobCosmanWoodworkinghave someone give ya a summer shave Rob!
@c.a.g.1977
@c.a.g.1977 11 ай бұрын
​@@RobCosmanWoodworkingwell, sharpen those scissors then and cut it 😂
@nmfam
@nmfam 10 ай бұрын
#Godmode"
@billfeehan7336
@billfeehan7336 11 ай бұрын
I bought two different trend diamond stones, and both were way out of flatness.
@RobCosmanWoodworking
@RobCosmanWoodworking 11 ай бұрын
Who did you buy the trend stones from and when? We stopped carrying the trend stones about two years ago when trend changed to a Chinese manufacture and quality dropped
@billfeehan7336
@billfeehan7336 11 ай бұрын
@RobCosmanWoodworking I bought them both from Amazon. I think I got the first one about 2 years ago and the second one 2 months ago. I guess the timeline adds up.
@mkplante
@mkplante 11 ай бұрын
@@billfeehan7336 I bought two from Amazon as well within the last year. Trend's tech support said they should be within 20um of flat. Feeler gauge under straightedge shows probably 30-40um.
@Obshowersyndicate
@Obshowersyndicate 19 күн бұрын
Belt sander does it much faster
@johnmack537
@johnmack537 11 ай бұрын
Why a “fluorescent” light?
@mattk6827
@mattk6827 10 ай бұрын
My guess would be shape, fluorescent tend to be linear tubes vs a round spot glow spreading in all directions. If you have a length of light you can check for bends. Like using winding sticks vs a ball or small blocks, the added length gives a visual reference over distance.
@myteric117
@myteric117 4 ай бұрын
I liked the tips and the explanations. I'm going to have to regrind my chisels after using the ruler trick. KZfaq's algorithm led me from this video, to one by WoodCraftBySuman kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rbCjg7J83d6ngmQ.html. I can't help wonder what sharpness numbers Rob would get with his system. It makes me wonder if the means and methods of gauging sharpness, and the means and methods of creating sharpness are comparable. With craft-skills, I think it's important to recognize the level of artistry of the craftsperson/artist - it's a mixture of skills and techniques that becomes so nuanced that the 'how-to' becomes difficult to convey. I've always said it can be fascinating to watch artists/craftspeople at work - from arborists to woodworkers. We all recognize we could probably learn to do as they do. Even if we never do, it is true entertainment to observe.
@beach3408
@beach3408 11 ай бұрын
Now, just keep Frick away from them!
@JesusvonNazaret
@JesusvonNazaret 10 ай бұрын
also don't use a strop on the mirror face of your chisels
@adobotachibana732
@adobotachibana732 4 ай бұрын
Why though?
@Tensquaremetreworkshop
@Tensquaremetreworkshop 4 ай бұрын
@@adobotachibana732 Because the strop is not flat- so neither are the results.
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