Imagine someone starts calling you a abuser because she does the same type of content 🙄 which isn't even SOLELY on the kids.

YES that's why she doubled down MONEY!!! Sad and shameful I could care less if this nasty woman gets cancelled!!!

@@tamitoxicity5682Using your underage children to make an income is abusive. Plain and simple. Fourteen isn’t old enough to consent.

​@@sarahg7996 at 14 I thought I could go blonde with a blonde box dye 😂, I had badly shaven eyebrows 👀 and never had the confidence to tell the teacher I don't understand areas, perimeters and diameters i agree 14 consent or not you cant actually consent if you don't understand the enormity of the dangers all pros and cons , at that age all you see is the pros and absolutely if they were aware that they could end up being preyed on sexually and vulnberable to being unalived im sure they'd sleep with the light on and refuse to go home 🤷‍♀️

Yeah f this b. Disgusting.

It lets us know that he's absolutely right about her, though

Totally! A good parent would NEVER respond to someone like Chad like that. "I was angry" wtf? It just shows she isn't as mature/responsible/emotionally smart as she claims to be.

​@@gaixue94imagine being compared to a abuser when all you do is love your kids because she totally deserve that right 🙄

@@tamitoxicity5682defending a family vlogger is such a weird hill to die on…

We didn't get the kids side yet. Family vloggers are unethical always. ​@@tamitoxicity5682

Nor do I believe that she gives her kids all the money. Who does this? So she goes out and also works a 9-5? Not believing her at all.

@@applepie1923 right! And the thing about her older kids. Yeah they still talk to her because I’m pretty sure she didn’t start filming her kids until recently.

Exactly 👍 They won’t even know until it’s too late since it can’t be “erased”🙇‍♀️🤷‍♀️👀😵‍💫🔥💩🔥 I thought she came back around & apologized and was more sensitive. However, she NEVER should’ve said what she did that required an apology, Compassion, & Sensitivity. AT LEAST he’s trying to advocate for other Children while he & his Siblings suffered for YEARS 💔❤️‍🩹

The younger kid probably SAYS he's okay with it because he's afraid to disappoint her.

@@pltjess that’s what I was thinking too. I mean if your parents is abusive of course the kid would do anything she wants just to keep her happy.

these "family channel" leech parents are all disconnected from reality and bad people

because she is also crazy

Because he compared the two now imagine you're getting compared to someone who has no issue abusing someone.

​@@outaaspace6156because he stepped out of line reached out to a stranger and then instantly compared her to an abuser? yeah totally makes sense

@tamitoxicity5682 ahh, yes, why would she reply like that? super defensive and insulting him for things his mom did to him? yeah, that sounds like a great person. could've said noted or okay or anything, did not have to attack him for how many messages. if youre too clueless to see that i hope you never have children.

She’s an evil horrible person to even have the audacity to post that

That's literally the lowest of the low as far as insults go...the advice I gave my children...when the bullies just won't stop...is to tell them, "At least my parents love me." It has stopped the bullies in their tracks 10/10 times. But it's not something to be said lightly.

Exactly! If she will go after an abuse survivor imagine how she truly treads her own kids!

Honestly I would also be offended if someone said my content was like hers . This boy had no right texting a random lady like that . They both could have worded it differently. He does have some serious issues and does need therapy. Not everyone is like his mom. Step into her shoes and think how would u feel if someone with that much public attention accuses you of horrible things.

​@@Graces_wrldASMR the video even mentioned that it is not only Chad who called this woman out. So maybe there's really something about her that reminds Chad about the abuses that his mom made to him in the past. Plus if she's not guilty, she doesn't have to respond like that.

@@PreciousBY309 I was watching the lady before this and she posted her kids like 2 times a week at most the rest were vids of her and her husband. The account wasn’t even about the kids either. It’s was just a mom vlogging her day and sometimes the kids would ask to be in the vid.

@@Graces_wrldASMR I’m glad I’m not the only one with that take. I found it incredibly cruel and rude of him to insinuate something like that upon a woman he doesn’t know. It was pure projection and she was right. Sure, she could have been more gentle, but when you’re compared to someone like 8 Passengers Ruby- I’d be enraged too. Thank god there are some without brain rot that can see how he was actually in the wrong and he rude. He was the aggressor and even insulted her with the last message. I get he’s a victim, but that doesn’t make what he did okay. He owes her an apology. And does need more therapy to not cause more distress for innocent people. It does speak volumes there are adult children that still want to be apart of their mothers life and not go no contact. But he didn’t clock that- did he? He just got triggered and got hypervigilant with “protecting” anymore from suffering the way he did. So he just went at some random woman cause he’s still healing through trauma.

But it's fine for him to just message her and compare the Situation to his, basically comparing this woman to an ABUSER! 🫢

@@ninamaxoshe is an abuser, no child should be forced to be in front of a camera for their parent to EXPLOIT them.

@@ninamaxoespecially considering her responses, she had no reason to be shitty, you are part of the problem.

@@hxrvywrld i am surely not the Problem but you know what is? Randomly comparing different situations without knowing all details... This woman shouldn't use her children but compare her to his mother, are you serious?

@@ninamaxo people use their own situations to handle and relate to others. He’s allowed to message her because the gate was open, just like you can comment here and be as rude as you want on that high horse you’re riding so proudly. I didn’t say anything besides the fact that all her responses to him were rude, I didn’t excuse him or his responses, that’s YOUR assumption on YOUR part that YOU are responsible for.

Exactly! "He's fine with it. He wants to film!" Does he actually want to, or does he feel obligated to say yes 🤔

She's attacking a young man we all know suffered horribly. What a b word.

My aunt growing up. My brother he did question her was always grounded, ridiculed, made fun of and told he was actually stupid even though he would be smart if he applied himself. I didn’t question her like he did (I love that he has a backbone) but she didn’t like when I didn’t understand something (learning disabilities) plus I was left in charge of the home daycare most of the time when I wasn’t in school and my senior year more often because she found out when my study hall was and assumed I didn’t need the study time (a girl who would stay up most nights either studying or doing chores.) This woman’s response is very telling

"he thinks its fun" or is this the only thing you do with your kids. I did whole ass marathon runs with my mom for her attention.

@@celinayim gonna go w the second option considering her kids demeanor in every video. they look annoyed and like they want to get the video over with

Exactly.

Let someone randomly dm me, projecting their life onto me and subconsciously accuse me of abusing my kids, I would reply worst than she did

@@emilysmith3650oh brother shut up 💀💀

That is definitely a reach, the way she speaks to her children vs. a random stranger can’t really be compared

@@emilysmith3650 Exactly. It’s not okay to message someone random with such accusations and expect rainbow sunshine of response. It’s phenomenal that people only seem to focus on the response and not the aggressor. He wasn’t right for that. But her retaliation gets more flack. 🙄 When you’re a parent and told you’re abusing your kids, let’s see how you react, especially someone who is one of Ruby Franke’s sons being the one to do it. It’s horrifying cause you know most will believe him instantly. Him making any accusation like that and sharing screenshots puts a lot at risk. And no one considers that! It’s just so messed up to see how quickly she is condemned.

She’s deranged

I think they just look at chad as a person who is now going to profit from a reinvention of some sort and not as a human being that has been hugely affected and now has a voice and will speak for the kids who still have no voice ❤

When the mom or other people say "but my kid wants to do it," they're totally discounting the way that children (particularly the oldest child) in an abusive family can have a "fawn" response. That is, they internalize and go along with things because it seems like their best option to have a somewhat harmonious relationship with the parent and minimize violent outcomes for themselves and others. Speaking from personal experience.

Yeah, it's a power thing. Mom's in the position of power and suggestion so that, even for things kids would rather not do, they will just because Mom suggested or introduced it. They likely wouldn't even know where to begin to say no...or even really, accurately conceptualized that as a legitimate choice. And all of that even more so when the parent is a known strict dictator and not the most flexible or open to "no" in pretty much any other context. So, long-story short, it shouldn't be surprising about any kid not going out of their way to say no, they don't/no longer want to do this.

It’s weird to accuse someone of abuse that you know nothing about

@@tokhotehe never accused her of anything at all

@@sheridenrangitonga3256 Yes he did. He assumed that she was like his mother. That’s why he messaged her. He said he saw similarities. He was comparing her to his mother and that’s like accusing her of doing the same things as his mother- otherwise why make the connection. Oh yeah. PROJECTION. And then he shares it so others can run with this narrative to send onslaught of internet vigilante to harass her. He didn’t have to tell them too. People just feel angry for what he went through and can’t see that it’s not okay for him to assume that upon another woman. Not even that. It threatens her family. Now those poor kids will have people in the community and other kids commenting on their mom being like Ruby Franke. No one thinks of that tho. Nope. Like have you y’all ever had the worst gossip going on about you that could almost completely uproot your life as you know it? This is like x10 of that. Think of that. Have care and sympathy for him, but also save space to care about the other victim… the woman who did nothing but stand up when accused of abusing her children. Get real. Think more. Actually have a heart. 😂😂😂😂😂😂

She is exploiting her kids tho lol why u mad at chad

​@ixneinno Tiffani Burrell, is that you?

Isn’t it the truth tho

@@emilysmith3650read the room

@@emilysmith3650yeah, but no one wants to hear that from a stranger while they are still trying to to heal and move past it.

@@emilysmith3650 sure, but she also doesn't love her own kids enough to not exploit them. He's telling her what she's doing can lead to real, irreparable harm, and instead of acknowledging his points she turned vicious. Doesn't exactly reflect well on her character

@@emilysmith3650yeah i’m sure he realized that after his mom was imprisoned for abusing his younger siblings. you still don’t say that to someone though. that’s like if my friend who was orphaned had a conversation with me and told me o should take the time to appreciate my parents and i just said “your parents are dead”. that doesn’t help the situation and provides no reasonable insight. it’s just mean and ignorant.

Yes! This is so awesome!!

There's a lot of exploited kids on social media. Someone needs to protect them and he has personal experience.

Indeed. He had to be silent for so long, we need more people especially MEN speaking out about abuse of kids and people in general.

Seems he knew how wrong it was from a very young age. He’s very smart and I’m really glad he’s turning this into sometbing that will help others. Life can either make it break you and I am glad he is recovering from all of her abuse.

I just hope the youngest siblings get the same chance, they got the worst of it from Franke AND Hilderbrant.

Ruby Franke didn't get nearly enough jail time for the horrible things that she did to her children

If our legislation prioritized protecting the rights of children over the rights of parents, things would look very different. The U.S. is one of the few countries in the world and alone among developed nations for its refusal to sign on to the U.N. statement on the universal rights of the child.

How can he accuse her to being abusive to her kids, when she probably love her kids

@@emilysmith3650these two things are not mutually exclusive

Because she was only thinking about herself and feeling attacked. They both actually handled this poorly.

Thought I was the only one who felt they were both messy here. Yes what she said went over the line but Chad definitely came into her DM’s swinging lol being a victim of abuse doesn’t give you license to be a jerk (I say as someone who was abused).

@@emilysmith3650if she loves her kids as much as she’s saying, why is she getting defensive when an abuse victim dms her privately saying she shouldn’t exploit her children?

same i think he will go on to do big things

@@HIGHIMALYSSA he didnt? he put her on blast for his snap story

@@bobbybigtoes9deserved, the way she acted is weird.

@@bobbybigtoes9 He only put it out when she gave that horrible response

these "family channel" leech parents are all disconnected from reality and bad people

Just because she's a mum, doesn't mean it's not abuse.

He called her a clown. She responded in the same way he addressed her. You trauma babies will forever be victims🤢

I'm against posting/exploiting your kids but honestly I'm on her side here. If some stranger messages you accusing/insinuating that you're exploiting your kids and lowkey comparing you to their abusive mother, you're going to get defensive 💀 I can't imagine being a mother and having someone accuse me of being a bad one let alone a horrible evil one. Why are people acting like her defensiveness was unjustified? He also called her a clown.

At the very least it shows shes insecure abt being perceived that way, and that means there is a part of her that understands what shes doing is risky. Yet she still continues to choose profit over her children anyways. This wasnt chad projecting imo, it was him using his experience to try to help others & she clearly cant accept that an actual ab*se victim can see himself in her children. To not even consider his opinion & the opinion of many viewers so quickly and so defensively shows that she is putting money b4 her children. If i received a message like that my first instinct would be to sit and think about which of my actions prompted that and whether theres any value in what hes saying. She is consistently choosing profit over her kids, her reputation, her/her kids online footprint, etc. She wouldnt even take a moment to consider the implications of her choices & instead chose to attack him

For reals. Just shows her level of maturity and sanity. Course she films her kids for money, the good parents i know don't even share baby pictures on public accounts.

I mean, he called her a clown unprovoked. I’m not defending her snarky response but it does seem like he is projecting his feelings on her.

@@Raven-ti6tfhe likely is but he’s still very young as evidence by the insult he used. He’s most likely still learning to navigate his emotions vs his thoughts~

Why is everyone acting like her defensiveness isn't completely justified? He implied she was abusing/exploiting her kids. No sh*t she got defensive.. ?? Thats expected when you suggest someone doesn't love their kids and then call them a clown 💀

NICE CATCH

Call that out!!!

GO LOOK AT MY CHILDREN THEY LIKE BEING ONLINE THEY SAID YOU CAN STARE AT THEM

She didn’t. She gave her adult child’s insta and it’s the name of the youngest that is blurred out.

@@CasperJonasright thank you!

Ppl in the comments are trying to act like what he said was deserving of a response like that and thats wild to me. I interpret his message as "hey this is my experience and im just letting u know maybe you should consider it and the fact that many many people view this as exploitation and you continuing to blow it off like nothing only makes ppl judge you more harshly so im reaching out to you privately to offer my perspective in the hopes you take it seriously for both your kids and how others perceive you" Clearly shes been told it many times before by viewers and that hasnt stopped her so he was trying to privately reach out to her. Did he need to phrase it in a way where he called her a clown? No, but, so many people have tried reaching her in different ways and shes clearly not receptive to any method so he made it concise and to the point, people think you look like a clown bc you continue to exploit your kids publicly, then deny it publicly, and refuse to accept the truth and everyone sees right thru it. She rly thinks shes getting away with it but hes letting her know it will catch up to her. Also what mom has the time to argue with strangers on the internet like that? She went on a tangent and even said shed been arguing w ppl all day. Shed rather argue w strangers defensively instead of consider their opinion for even a moment. This is not how mature adults act. The fact she was so cruel to an ab* victim, and comparative to her he is a child imo. He was pretty gentle in his approach and she flew off the handle then tried to backpedal. Couple that with the exploitation, the fact she could be so cruel so easily to him, the fact she admits to arguing w others all day, and many other factors involved, it shows a scary picture of her behavior and values and emotional maturity. If this is how she acts with Chad, how does she behave behind closed doors w her impressionabke children that just want their moms love and validation?

No one is reading all that​@@Hmclaughs

@@Hmclaughs Chad is so much better than me with the back and forth. I’m just irritated. At the whole situation. It’d be different if strangers had off the wall comments about her approach in parenting and showing it online, but the fact that it’s very collective like “hey we really don’t think you should be sharing all that” like it’s common table manners like hello?? Has she ever heard of boundaries and self respect and self disclosure? Apparently not, anything for dumb views. If that was my mom, I’d go no contact after turning 18. And I’ll be happily go on different podcast to shame her for the estranged relationship she caused. Big f out of here lol

Lots of moms are like this on or off the internet, unfortunately. People suck and not every women should be a mom

Right I don’t even like the ones where we hear the kid but never see their face. It’s still icky

Im sure she’s a treat to say no to

Why? You're excited to hear about abuse children went through?

Why? You're excited to hear about children being @bused?

@@AKbaby89because hopefully after the first generation of children speak out about how detrimental it is, there will be enough public pressure to stop parents from exploiting their children. And hopefully inform the public to stop consuming it. It’s not just the parents fault, the people who watch it and the brands that partner with them are all involved.

@@AKbaby89 were excited to hear the abuse finally come to light (before its too late)

@@avr7120 yes and obviously I want the best for these children. I’m just thinking that it must be very therapeutic for these kids (now adults) to take control of their narrative. Having their own voice. Children cannot consent!!! A lot of my friends blur out their children’s faces on social media because it’s there forever and people are freaks on the internet

Every time I would see her in a video or screen cap where she had long lashes or she looked polished or had a nice shirt or even was wearing earrings.. every single time I saw anything nice I immediately went your children bought that for you.. they just didn't know it because you stole all their money for yourself

Exactly. Many kids wouldn't understand the scope of exposure they have online, and it's up to the parents to protect them.

I feel the exact same way as you about it. I saw some comments saying he deserved her message because he called her a clown???..... which is absolutely absurd. She does not seem like a good person to me.

Right?! I am shocked by her response & shocked that ANYONE could even slightly defend her in this. It's absolutely insane 🤯

Parasocial garbage

Same

As long as there is money involved it won’t stop

Btw don’t get me wrong I also think it is unfair for families to profit off blogging their children😅

Imagine how she speaks to her own children

SAY THIS LOUDER FOR THE APOSTATES IN THE BACK!!!’🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️

this lady isn’t even Mormon

People also don't realize that adult children can still be abused and controlled even if they aren't living at home anymore. That guilt and feeling of obligation doesn't go away once you turn 18..it doesn't even go away when you marry or have a family..it doesn't go away until you are ready to open your eyes to the abuse and manipulation and stop it. Look at the Duggar kids..so many of the girls were under their dad's control well after they got married and had kids and it really isn't until recently that many have started to speak out and dissociate themselves from him. Her saying her adult daughters still make videos with her means nothing if they feel coherenced or obligated to make them.