What do you think about Bob's massive collection? Will he be able to sell most of it? ✅More info @bit.ly/2XGjzR6

That's going to be Pat in 45 years.

He should contact the American Pickers show. They'd have a heyday there and it'd be good publicity for the sale of the rest of the collection.

This is a PSA from Pat, play your games, enjoy your games, don’t invest in games.

I have a story that will mirror what you said, I had 2 Japanese pachinko machines from the 70's. I couldn't give these things away, even with my niece who's big into anime. Was telling me they are popular now, but I had to keep telling her. It does't matter what you think they are worth if no one will buy them. I ended up selling them to a dealer for $50 for both, just to get rid of them.

My dad and I have been doing the same thing for 45 years now. I'm not allowed to show it off yet because he fears theft and I'm not allowed to sell it until he dies. You won't believe the stuff he has. He used to clear out Kay B Toys and just did it with Toys R Us. Shoot I remember clearing out Osco Drug stores of all their toys and games.

The collection from Sioux Falls S.D. is mine collection😀😀. Glad to see it made on it here.👌

As someone who will probably be faced with that choice in a few years, my recommendation for the 84-year old gentleman is to grab some of his collection as a sampler, and take it to an antique show. Around where I live (Columbus OH) there's this Scott's Antique Show that runs one weekend ever month between November and March at the Ohio State Fairgrounds. There you will see several hundred small plots inside one of the buildings, with for the most part older people's stuff that they have spent a lifetime collecting, and are now hoping to get rid of in the twilight of their life. You can find virtually anything there (hell, last month I found an Entex Galaxian 2 handheld, missing the battery door but still works, for five bucks being sold by an old couple). But yeah, definitely plan for what to do with your stuff before you get too old. Some of the most depressing sights I have seen are when a person dies and what their family doesn't keep, just gets sent to the trash. One pile I saw some years back were letters from a couple's son from a Florida Army camp from 1942. This couple held onto this stuff for the rest of their lives, and then it just ends up on the curb.

News flash, nothing lasts forever. I feel like (continually for Pat) bringing this topic up of "video games are dying out" is really just buyers remorse of having thousands of games. Buy the games you want to play and then hang on to them if they're important to you. Anything in excess is bad kids.

Recently sold my nes collection of 325 games, I wanted to make it to the end but after years of not playing it and it taking up space I decided to just get a everdrive and sell the collection. It was definitely a weird feeling packaging up everything, knowing where you bought every peice of it. I hope it went to a good home.

This is collecting to the extreme. I just collect Xbox 360 and original Xbox games that I wanted to play but had no money at the time. Now I can afford them and buy at a much more affordable price and enjoy them. In short collect what you love and enjoy them when you can.

9:28 That's not a joke price, that's a price that means "Send me an offer" cause on Facebook Marketprice you can only list something for a set price or for free.

An ex collector 30 odd year here, I nearly become a hoarder of games at one point, sold a fair bit of it off a few years back, then got back into the habit and now im selling off bits I feel ive never want to play or never will play. (Have videos about it), instead ill buy what I want to own Think a few people are getting burned out on it all and realising we don't really need these things in our lives. In saying that, I would like to have a poke about in this guys collection

This guy needs to get ahold of Rod Stewart the rockstar, he's a massive railroadhead. His model train collection one of the biggest train collections in the world.

Can't wait to play my Super Nintendo in heaven!

My very 1st car was a 93 Thunderbird! I LOVED that car! "The ThunderTerd"

Sold most of my game collection last year. Bought a piano from the money I made off it, now I'm writing a music album. I think it was a good idea to sell. ( ▀ ͜͞ʖ▀)

As a younger collector (I'm 23 and I have some friends in the 18-23 range) There is still a lot of interest in collecting at least NES and up, but I do think a lot of prices went too high for most broke high school and collage students to take on the older generation who is trying to sell right now.

I wonder when Pat will start selling off his collection.

The sad thing is the days of collecting are numbered, since everybody is going digital where the games, movies and music you paid for can vanish at any time for any reason (or no reason).

I don't understand video game collectors who don't collect for the purpose of playing them.

I'd be looking for vintage MTG packs among that collection...

The limited edition mushroom is even better when it's tired

Dude, my grandfather was buying brand new piano rolls up until he died. He had Grandmom Got Runover By a Reindeer. Did a quick search. QRS still exists, still makes them, and has a website.

They keep referring to this notion that the reason prices have increased (and will eventually decrease) is simply due to nostalgia. The kids who grew up with the stuff are collecting it and will eventually sell and thus the potential buyers will not be interested as they themselves have no nostalgia for it and demand decreases substantially The problem with this if you take a closer look, the retro game market is attracting all demographics especially younger people who weren't born when these console were out. Elvis comparisons be damned video games are embedded into the culture of our youth. There are new retro collectors taking the place of the old retiring ones every day.

It all ends up back on the market, collections like this was a wake up call to stop it’s just stuff

Someone give him the number to the Strong Museum in Rochester NY

Its Herbie Hancock.

I think many people, including myself, realize that having excess games is too much. It's especially an issue if you travel a lot and don't have much time to sit down and enjoy your games. There still are people who can do this but not as many as before.

The collecting madness still has you Pat!

I feel like Pat is saying that collectors should be getting out of game collecting, but please remember that the real message is/should be that people should stop *investing* in games. Collecting for enjoyment is fine, though, and whether you play them or not is irrelevant.

Ian, I would think that the odd ball stuff that people aren't necessarily coming in for is something that you sell online. We have retro video game stores here in Arkansas called Game Exchange. The higher priced harder to find things usually sit around. It's not that they aren't worth what they are asking, it is just going to take someone that A. has the money and B. Needs/wants that particular item. Since they don't advertise online, nobody knows it's in there. For instance, they have a CIB copy of Gotcha Force on GC for $200. It's been sitting there for a couple of months now. I assume they don't sell on Ebay since it's still there. There hasn't been a copy of it go for under $140-$150 on ebay in 5 months. Not sure why they told me, but I asked about it because I thought whoever came to trade something like that in was mental and they told me he got like $60-$70 for it. Point is, if it's a desirable, unique, pricey item...online will catch the people hunting for it that will have the coin to pay for it. They know what it costs and just need to find it.

I have a player piano! Brand new rolls were available until 2005 (a lot of period-corrupt music such as Queen, Disney, Andrew Lloyd Weber etc.)with the Mastertouch name on them, but the pianos themselves had their heyday in the 1920's, and were of little value soon after when gramophones and radios became more readily available to the public. The rolls show up from time to time on online auctions, they're never worth much unless it's a particularly desirable tune, but it's not like gramophone records (also worthless these days) where there's a particular recording by a particular musician that puts the value and demand sky-high. Player pianos themselves are often a burden for people trying to sell them, and more often than not they just don't sell, or sell for very little money. Not only is their age a concern, a piano ideally needs to be tuned regularly to prevent it from becoming completely untunable. A player piano is also one hell of a complicated task to repair, with the required skilled technicians either being retired, dead, or just difficult to track down. And lastly, they're big, extremely heavy, and just a complete pain in the ass to move, which is more and more annoying, especially in an age where home ownership is becoming less common. That said, I still think older video games will still have some relevance in the future, as the video game industry is still in full swing, the same way some younger people like to boast about enjoying music their parents, or even grandparents enjoy, alongside their own modern preferences. That said, those old video games are available in other ways, just like being able to listen to The Beatles on Spotify, so the demand for owning physical items probably won't be there, but the games themselves will still stick around.

He should have an auction house handle anything they think is worth auctioning off.

Ian brings up a good point. The people that are looking for esoteric items have been collecting long enough that most of them have the oddball items they've been looking for by now or have decided to pick up other items in their place. It's similar to the individuals that want mediocre titles like Super Widget. Statistically speaking, everyone that wants that cart probably has it. It's extremely unlikely that someone is going to walk into Luna or another game store asking for that game. At most, someone might pick it up and say, "Hey, I sort of remember this show."

Are player piano rolls anything like Totino Pizza Rolls?

Collectibles popularity die out with the collectors. If there isn’t any collectors for something anymore... no one will buy it. So collect stuff if you enjoy it, not because you think it will be worth something later.

I can't sell NES and SNES games on the FB marketplace anymore unless I go down to 30% off VGPC, sometimes even that's not low enough. And yet people still price their games insanely high and let them sit there for months unsold. I'm convinced most resellers would literally rather die than price their games under 100% retail.

I will say I've thought about expanding on my collection. But after doing some thinking as I'm a few years away from turning 30. I've decided I'm just going to be sticking with core consoles like Nintendo, Sega, Playstation, and Xbox. If I had to expand I would also give Atart 2600 a try. But decided to just stick with what I got.

Are we sure they’re older people selling off their collections or the people like in my area that got into it as a business and now the market is slowing down and they’re trying to get their money quick to jump into the next trend?

That's just people losing interest in collecting. Big difference from a type of collector "aging out" like this 84 yr old. Someone born in 1975 was 10 years old by the NES American release. Today they are 44. I'd say you've got 15-20 years before NES collectors start "aging out" and dying off en masse. That's when retro game collections will really plummet in value and quickly become near worthless.

Maybe set up an Amazon store for the consoles. I live in a land where places like Luna, just dont exist lol, so ive actually found some decent deals on used older consoles on Amazon through user stores. Only mention it cos yeah if Luna’s not interested advert on amazon or ebay, then through da interwebs anyone actually looking for what you have will find it, instead of two maybe interested dudes at a garage sale right

Pat's really showing off his guns :D

Pez collecting will always be nuts. My dad's friend is crazy with it.

What's the name of the original video?

I must say that thank you Pat & Ian for acting your age and not like cringy whiny little bitches. This was much more enjoyable to watch. As far as the topic, you should only collect and keep stuff that you would enjoy and cherish. Do not collect for investment! Those sorta people are scum

You reach a point where you understand your collection is going to outlive you and that's when you realize you could do more with the money. Buy what you play sell what you don't.

That's wild about the about the price difference for in store vs online. I figured it would be the exact opposite, it seems that's how all my local game stores work. Maybe that's a bad sign for my local market's future....

I still enjoy collecting & playing my games. I always look for them on the cheap, it doesn't bother me if they are not mint & pre-owned. Should I sell alot of it off one day, I will have certainly gotten my monies worth! The only item I have spent alot on was a Sharp SF-1 (Super Famicom TV) as I heard about it in my school days and always desperately wanted one, to me it was really worth the cash and it damn good fun to play!

He would be REALLY pissed if he sold it and right after scientists find a way to reverse aging making you immortal:)

What about old PC games? The original doom is hitting pretty high numbers on ebay constantly and the price seems to climb higher as time goes on.

I like to think that a lot of the people who have started selling their collections are the people who only got into it in the first place because it was the new cool KZfaq thing and not because they wanted it. Now they look around realise that they have all this shit cluttering their house and they're like, I'm out!

I decided to sell my collection around Christmas time. I’m out of room and I have 4 kids. Time to move on. Been moving stuff constantly for 2 1/2 months and it’s a pain in the ass. A lot of work.

It’s 123 million, not thousand. $123,456,789.

It's hard for old people to realize that most of the stuff they collected over the years is almost worthless to most people. Those John Wayne collector plates, Spoons from the 50 states, and ceramic wolves....they're most likely headed for the landfill. Even our beloved NES and SNES games will one day cease to function and most people will probably just chuck them.

the price is high right now. Sold all my $15+ games on ebay sold the rest of the junk to some idiot at a gamestore for $4k

The classic "the classic game market is going to crash" video. I've been watching this show/channel, off and on, since 2015ish. Maybe longer. Plus I've thumbed through the older stuff. These guys have been saying a crash is right around the corner, every several months or so. I love these guys but if you keep saying it's right around the corner, it will eventually happen and I guess u cant be wrong, lol. My kids do the same thing at the stop light. They keep "now!" Over and over and boom, it eventually happens and they laugh in glee about how they "predicted" the change.

The people selling collections either lost the passion or never had it (passing fad) or they had no choice meaning they died or they desperately needed the money or fire or gf etc. So I know I still play the crap outta everything and always will so my argument is holla if your getting rid of shit!!! Great chat guys!!!

So is this a good thing for the retro game market pat? Or Ian?

This old man is really cool and has great taste. Hes selling so that he can give his fam the $. Good for him

I live in pa, the king of prussia mall the court and plymouth meeting malls all had jay street video game stores in them, it was a retro game store there all gone now, its crazy

If your selling part of your collection soon, does that include your nwc gold and grey?

pat should save up so he can afford a crypt to be buried with his stuff

I want the piano rolls! How can I make this happen?

Neat that this guy collected all this. I've bought all the video games that I rented and owned from my childhood. Now I rarely buy retro games due to the fact that I have less time and income.

I have a good number of train books, but 1,800?!!?!

the thunderbird stuff will sell very fast,still alot of collectors for those things

Player Piano Rolls... oh does that bring back memories of my childhood! I believe my mother still has that piano that has that player! People actually collect those paper rolls?? Has gotta be a very (Pat high pitch voice) "niche!" collecting!!

I'd say you got another good 5 years at least before the hobby starts to die out, it's great for someone like me who doesn't resell or look at the monetary value of it, because I'll take it all for cheap and appreciate it :)

Limited!

Will this be Pat in a few years?

"123 thousand" Pat… that says 123 MILLION

What the difference between a collector and a hoarder?

The VR will make collecting easier, once we can fully emulate with life like graphics we can build VR rooms with all the valuables. All the pros and no cons

That jukebox is dope.

Ian, where do you work I would love to shop there?

I'm more of a video game merchandise collector, like plush and figures. I think these hold value better. I don't see people 50 years later really caring about old video games but I can see people caring about well preserved vintage plush of their favorite characters. Either way, I don't really care, I collect because I enjoy it. I can see myself selling up within 10 years and moving on to other things.

Dang cant comprehem what tressure that could be in there

I love when I see people saying "selling as a complete lot" or "will not sell individually" or something to that affect. NOBODY is going to buy a complete collection. NOBODY is going to drop $30K on a single video game transaction that doesn't include Stadium Events. When I sell my collection later on down the line, I'll be breaking them up into small lots. One may includes all NES Mario games, one may include all Streets of Rage games, one lot will include the console with a few "popular" games and a couple "throw away" ones, etc.

Half scale means it’s a model that is half the size of a real plane

I have been seriously contemplating over the last couple of months about downsizing my collection. Time to sell that dust collector Hagane and get the money in RRSP's for down the road.

i see player piano rolls at antique stores all the time.

You should do these live so we can chat

A fine line between collecting and hoarding. Stay thirsty, my friends.

My neo geo collection will always be valuable

Always easier to accumulate than to sell off

I only buy games im gonna play. I do have a sealed copy of resident evil directors cut for ps1 that ill never open.. but thats different i got it for 15 bucks a couple years ago. Couldnt pass it up. Even though i knew id never open it.

Yeah nothing I collected, toys, videogames, trains, etc was to make money. I just bought what I enjoy.

I can't wait to go to Pat's estate sale.

That’d be 2 dollars at GameStop

2:20 I'd read those too, Ian

I only collect and are interested in the games I grew up with. Which is the fifth generation and ahead

only a matter of time before this was going to happen. people move on and loose interest. ive been cautious as to how much I pay for these games since they jumped 10x in value to avoid buying something that is dead money. eventually the prices will drop as no one wants them anymore, the gamble is buy it now or wait

Ian, why isnt Luna online store ? To be honest , I havent google it. It seems that is one of your problems.

Sometimes I think Pat isn't listening to Ian then he suprises me...go Pat!

I started selling my stuff along time ago and am going to go down the emulator route it's cheaper and takes up less space.

Sell off a few games and buy some sleeves Pat!

Good topic.

The only caveat to video game collecting is that there are millions of more people from the video game generation than from the piano roll generation.

My future