“It was a difficult day for everyone in the courtroom.” Yeah. Except for Lori, that is. Monster. No remorse. Her own children, and she sits there smirking and laughing. Effing MONSTER.

Poor Colby his siblings murdered by his own Mother. Life changing. Hope he recovers without ruining his own life.

I never thought there would be two people that needed a shovel to the face so badly as much as LVD and Chad. Absolutely evil.

Chads demeaner in his phone call with Lori abt the police searching his property, sounds like defeat to me. He knows his minutes are numbered. His last ditch effort to escape by driving away from the scene, was done in a moment of sheer panic. His brains were scrambled trying to figure a way out of of the situation and his "fight or flight" kicked in

Hearing about how JJ was murdered just guts me. He must have been so afraid and terrified and confused. He must have wondered why his mom and uncle were hurting him and not helping him.

Also, if Kay and Larry hadn’t been diligently looking for the kids, this could’ve been far more destructive. I mean NOBODY else was looking for them!

I am going to need anger management after these cases

You missed the most key moment of Summer’s phone call! Summer confronts her again about smiling on the beach getting married knowing her kids are dead and buried like garbage, and Lori says, “Yeah, *months* later!” - effectively admitting she knew they were dead, and giving us a big hint as to her motive for doing it (see: a child free beach wedding)

Serial killers have described murder by asphyxiation (strangling) as one of the most difficult, time consuming and brutal ways to murder someone. So whoever did this, whether it was Lori, Chad, Alex or a combo of all of them had *time* to stop what they were doing. They saw each one of their victims struggle. That is the behavior of some truly evil people.

That Lori Vallow has the gall to smile in court knowing that her two children were murdered and buried in Chad's yard makes my skin crawl.

I don’t believe even Stephen King could write a fictional horror book of this kind.

This is why I don't waste my emotions on narcissists, they do not care, they will not care, they don't know how. They stay calm, while they put those around them in knots. You'll make yourself crazy trying to get a point across. Lock them up. Walk away.

I imagine how terrified these kids were and it hurts me inside.

I personally think Lori was the mastermind in these murders.

JJ was only 7 years old. Lori couldnt have taken too much care of him. What a selfish narcissistic killer. She talked to Chad much differently than her own son on the phone. I thought I had seen the most evil people possible until Lori, Alex and Chad appeared.

Did she HONESTLY think she would get away with all of this?

As a child i never imagined that all of the real monsters in the world would be humans.

If that coroner isn't fired and required to reimburse the insurance company for the payout shame on that county. Total incompetence.

My heart was breaking 💔 listening to her talking with her son. 😢 Her sister was also painful to hear. 😢

Lack of empathy and arrogance towards her sister and son Colby. No descriptive words that can explain Lori Daybell’s behaviour. 🤷‍♀️👹

Are we sure they didn’t kill Alex as well?

There will never be enough punishment or Justice for what these evil people have done to the most precious gifts of all, children. My heart hurts for these precious children. It's unimaginable what they went through. May LVD and everyone who has blood on their hands be forever haunted by their actions.

I think what Audrey testified to was arguably more important than what Melanie Gibb testified to. Lori pretty much described the death scenes of Tylee and possibly JJ to Audrey, while also threatening Audrey’s life. Audrey’s testimony was huge and alarming to me. I also think that is why the defense attorney came at Audrey so hard.

Listening to this a second time, I realize that the poor court recorder is sniffling and holding back tears while typing away. This has to be so very hard to do with these brutal cases.

I actually assumed it would be a long time before I witnessed another person as narcissistic, wicked and utterly selfish as Alex Murdaugh. ........Wrong.

Justice for all the victims of Lori & Chad.

It's interesting hmmm a coincidence that Jo Ryan and Alex Cox both died of heart issues - I believe that Lori was directly connected

If this jury don't find her guilty I just don't know how to feel what this so call American justice system.

I don't think Chad wanted to be bothered with J. J. and Tylee did not like Chad. They could not get rid of J. J. and not Tylee, but, they wanted the money. Getting rid of those children was not a problem for either one of those self centered devil's.

I'm the one that spent hours at the hospital for Tylee, etc. Yeah, so what? That is what a parent has to do sometimes. That would seem it would make her more frantic, more attached to those children.

I get the oddest feeling there were two people that killed Tammy. He can't hold her down AND suffocate her with a pillow at the same time. The bruises are very telling.

She hides behind "you weren't there". Its her MO with everyone who dares to confront her

Don't forget Tylee dad, Joseph Ryan, who was Lori's 1st or 2nd husband. He died too

Like the malignant narcissist that she is: She makes everything about her. Always playing the victim but the real victims are Tylee, JJ, Charles and Tammy. She wanted every penny she could squeeze out them. JJ and Tylees monthly SS checks that amounted to $4,000. Charles had a Life Insurance Policy of a million dollars that originally made Lori the beneficiary ....she would soon find out Charles changed the beneficiary to his sister, Kay Woodcock..JJ's biological grandma. Tammy's Life Insurance that made a paid out to Chad of over $420,000.

Regarding the question of whether Lori was present when JJ was killed, here is what I wonder. Melanie G's hubby had a horrific nightmare and Melanie went and knocked on Lori's door to get a casting or something to help whatever caused it in their minds. But Lori didn't answer her door. The next morning when Melanies now hubby asked to see JJ to say goodbye, Lori said he wasn't there. I think Lori was present when JJ was restrained at the very least.

I hope that things wrap up soon. I always get angry because when I see someone sitting there smiling and acting like that it's seems to show that they are not sorry for what they did. It's hard to think about what happened to those children and see her showing no remorse.

It’s alarming how she smiles and laughs. She is evil.

Lori said during the conversation with her sister that she knew when JJ and Tylee died when she said "Two months ago" which was almost exactly the time from the time Lori was married to Chad in November detectives say they died September .. You have to listen very carefully to the whole conversation

You know it's horrific when it makes Jesse's smile go away. Because he always has a smile on his face...

I wish she was held accountable for the death of her first husband. Nobody listened to him and even his death has been disregarded by the police that didn’t hear him.

LVD couldn't let others take Tylee...Tylee would have told what really happened to Charles...and JJ was a spiteful move toward Kay and Larry...she would never let others take them

Chad sounds scared to death when talking about the search. He was right! But Loti is still hanging on to that crazy crap. I am going to be crushed if they get away with it.

I have a big question about Lori‘s hair on JJ’s body. If Lori‘s hair is on his shirt then it could’ve been transferred to him earlier in the day. But if Lori‘s hair is on tape, that is on the outside of the plastic, then she was there when the plastic was being applied. I understand JJ was wrapped in layers of plastic. So if Lori‘s hair is in between the layers of plastic and stuck to the duck tape, then that means Lori was there when he was being bound, or at least, when his body was being bound into the plastic and duct tape. So where EXACTLY was Lori’s hair found on JJ’s body???

All 3 who witnessed Charles being killed, are now dead. I honestly believe Alex disabled Charles and Lori killed him with the second shot when he was already wounded on the ground. He said she was adamant that she will kill him. The police did not do their job then. Nor did they test Loris hands for gunshot residue. I also think she assisted when they tied up JJ.

I feel awful for all the people they killed! the person they trusted most, looking into their eyes as they choked the life out of them! OMG! Lori & Chad were only out for themselves, at all costs! Evil

Anyone who knew what the penalty was for "being dark" or "a zombie," who knew that Charles, Tylee, JJ, and Tammy had been declared as such YET DID NOTHING TO STOP IT, are guilty of complicity, conspiracy, right along side Chad & Lori. Why are they free? Why do they skate, when they did everything but "pull the trigger?"

I have come to the conclusion, thus far, that she is the ring leader in all,of this. But because she bats her eyes at people and has been able to win people over through being charming to there faces. Shes as guilty as a guilty person can be, may e worse because she brutally murdered her innocent loving children. The DP should never have been taken off the table for her.

You nailed it, Jesse! She never says what she knows happened and she admitted she knew but the rest of us don’t know because we weren’t there. So if she didn’t do it then why all the secrets?!? She knew, maybe she didn’t kill them with her own hand but she’s the reason their dead. And her telling Summer she can’t talk about it and if she was innocent she would talk about it.

Thanks so much for this update, Jesse. I was way behind on this case. Love your coverage!

That smile on her face makes me sick. I will be smiling when both of these sickos do life without parole.

Because of how they died, and time frame, I believe it is quite possible, that Mr Ryan's and Alex's death (they "gave a blessing" before his death (like they also did others) could also be murders. Thank you, Crystal

Can I just say something that I haven't seen anyone else bring up are Tylee's hospital frequent visits... What if Lori was the cause of those hospital visits? How do we know Tylee wasnt a victim of Munchausen by proxy?

It was so heartwrenching to hear Lori Vallow's sister crying and saying she would have taken the kids, everyone would have taken them.Those poor kids had their lives snuffed out because of maniacs and the spouses of Chad and Lori. Imagine the terror these children must have felt as their lives were taken. Just sickening. They can look forward to a long life "apart" in separate prisons. Not the togetherness she wanted.

This is definitely one of the most disturbing cases out right now. One I'm sure NO ONE can possibly wrap their head around. How can any mother do such a horrible thing as this & find it funny is extremely disturbing. She's either very mentally disturbed & needs to be locked in a mental institution for the rest of her life without ever coming out or in prison for the rest of her life!

Does anyone know if they’ve talked about the storage unit at the trial?? Remember early on when the kids were reported missing, and there was security cameras footage of them moving the kids’ stuff into a storage unit?

Thanks for this wonderful summary! It is very well done. I heard all of this, yet having them all brought together is definitely proves guilt.

I'd like to know how Melanie Pawlowski can feature so heavily in all this evidence (as virtually a little mini-Lori) and not have any arrest warrant out for her????

Lori has aged 20 years in the last 4!! Her beauty is gone, gone, gone!

Listening to Lori's sister is heartbreaking 💔 🩷🩵🩷🩵🩷🩵🩷🙏🩵🩷🩵🩷🩵🩷🙏🩵🩷 Tylee and JJ💔❤️‍🩹💟🕊♡

Two things you missed out. 1. Lori said to MG that she knew where kids were and they were safe and happy. 2. Audrey’s testimony that Lori threaten to kill her and how….pretty significant if Audrey is to be believed.

Thank you. Watching from Alaska.

Hey, @law&crime, it would be amazing if yall could add audio subtitles to the calls and such. Itd be a blessing bc youtube's option isnt always available nor accurate.

A mountain of circumstantial evidence, puts this far beyond any reasonable doubt.

Another sad case may the victims rest in peace 🕊️

Hearing Colby yell at his mom was sad but great to hear at the same time. He deserved to show so much anger at her and he didn’t deserve to lose his siblings the way he did. It reminds me of this Michigan case where this mom, whose daughter was murdered by a “friend.” and she screams at her killer in court.

“They love me”…😢exactly …the ultimate betrayal…. they trusted you to protect them with YOUR life, but who sadly is still alive while those poor babies are gone in a horrific slaughter😭

To me, if I was a juror, the fact that the duck tape came from her apartment is evidence enough of her guilt! The hair could have come from the time JJ was killed or not, but THE TAPE CAME FROM HER!!!

Great video

If this turns out to be another “Casey Anthony “ situation, where Lori skates Scott-free, I am going to be livid & completely DONE with the American judicial system!

I've been following this case ever since Nate Eaton went to Hawaii to follow them and I agree with you this case has become more disturbing than I could've ever imagined because all the little details are coming out that we never heard or saw before, although most of it we've already known. But some of the details like about the kids and JJ being smothered in the plastic bag I mean my God I just can't even imagine my children being murdered I would probably end up in prison going after the murderer I can't imagine hurting my kids

Does anyone else find it rather suspicious that Melanie Gibb stayed with Lori in Arizona right before Charles was killed. And then fast forward a couple of months and she stayed the night with Lori in Rexburg right before JJ was killed. How much did Melanie really know?

She keeps saying, You weren’t there, you don’t know what happened, not the FBI, they weren’t there…” How does she alone know what happened? She repeats it and talks over Colby, seems it was very important to her… Nobody was there?

I love,love your newest back ground

During the search you can hear the guiltiness in his voice. Eventually during a search like that, they will find what they are looking for. I think he realized that. Yeah. They are both guilty of this.

The followers had prior knowledges of Tammy's and JJ's short life statements and nobody called the cops! They, too, are guilty for hiding informations! Each witnesses hit the nails for Lori's and Chad's coffins of guilt! Both should have been in trial together! The witnesses and the public has to go through this hearthbreaking and gruesome case again.

“ in the house?” That made it clear to,e that she knew there was a possibility they were NOT in the house… otherwise why ask him that …wow

What I'd like to know: who got immunity for testifying? Is that public record? I'd actually bet money on it. I'd bet on Melanie G., Melanie P. (still waiting for HER testimony!) as well as Zulema.

I have been using “Daybell’ to explain killing someone so you can run off and have an adulterous affair, without divorcing!! Well at least I didn’t Daybell him!

A small request, please post words for the calls. Don't hear well. I don't recall her once ever saying," I did not kill my children".

Excellent factual repot

Great coverage on the case Jessie.

What we find with psychopathic narcissists is that everything is all about them. Empathy is completely lacking.

While there is no smoking gun, other than the hair DNA, there is overwhelming circumstantial evidence to convict. All of it points to Lori not only as a conspirator, but as the ringleader.

Jesse.. no smoking gun? I adore you, but this whole trial is a smoking gun. Specifically Lori buying the wedding rings on her murdered husband's account while Chad's wife was still breathing (but not for long).. and the one that not everyone is picking up on.. Lori saying "MONTHS LATER" to her sister where she attempts again to be the victim.. and Chad telling ANYONE who would listen that Tammy was going to die. And like countless others to comment on. Her demonic goose is COOKED (shout out to Tammy who loved geese).

Great job Jesse Weber

Narcissists like Laurie are truly terrifying

I wonder if Lori had botox treatments, before, because look at how much better Tammy looked, her face was smooth, and Lori's was all wrinkly [ most likely from being out in the sun a lot ], but now she can't have those treatments, and those puffy lines on either side of her nose are so visible, that is all I see when I see her face.

Poor Colby 😢

This all makes me so sad. I hope every day of her remaining years she sees the faces of her children and her dead husbands.

Chad has already said he was sleeping with Tammy at the time of her death , so he already confessed if Autopsy is true

Some of the sickest things done to humans by other humans are done under the guise of religion.… A false sense of righteousness is the most wicked and evil thing.

So horrific.

What’s the point of playing tapes that we can’t hear the words? Put subtitles on.

😢THANK YOU ❤

I usually skip over videos to do with this tragedy, the revulsion I feel for that pair & what they did to those children, I am at a loss to understand how a brain/ brains can operate in these twisted ways of Narcissism, N is something I will never understand, having been targeted by one, I don't get what THEY get out of being such cowardly spiteful humans, that type of brain function does not compute. Poor Children, their last moments of understanding what was going to happen to them ❤❤😢

Lori's going to claim that she asked Alex (and Chad) merely to 'expel the demons' within Tylee and JJ, but he/they took it a step further and killed them both, (or accidently during the supposed exorcism process) therefore she is not responsible for their deaths, let alone Murder one. That's where her defense is going to take this, imo. She's likely also going to say she didn't know they were buried on Chad's property, and that she thought they were living in Alex's apartment. This is why she looks bored and confident - she thinks her lawyer calling everything 'hearsay' will be able to conjure enough reasonable doubt to dismiss all the texts and telephony where she explicitly stated that the way to 'cast out demons is to destroy the body'. She also accidently admitted to her sister Summer that she knew the kids were dead at the time she was on her cringey honeymoon with Chad. (So she can't say that she only found out they were dead during the legal discovery). So if she knew they were dead, she must've known how they got that way, and where they were buried, etc. No funeral, no family notifications, no tears, no years of emotional brokenness like normal parents. Some people believe that Lori's hair stuck in the duct tape on JJ is the greatest evidence. But imo, it's when Lori blurted, 'Yeah, like, months later!' to her sister on the phone recording when Summer confronted Lori about frolicking on the beach with Chad, yet her children were discarded like trash in a pet cemetery.

The fact that they were happy and smiling at their wedding in Kauai right after they murdered the 2 kids... Absolutely disgusting.

I pray for the whole family!

People need to go back 3 years ago and see the reading that Donna Seraphina had done on JJ and Tylee, this was months before anyone knew they were dead. She describes the manner in which they were murdered and the EXACT way they would be found. Donna has worked on many missing children cases and has provided LE with information that has lead to finding these kids.

Chad killed Tammy, IMO. He would do it "privately." I predict that one of these nights, Lori is going to wake up screaming, having just dreamed of the deaths of JJ and Tylee. She'll look around her and see nothing but bars and cement, and realize that she, too, has been buried alive. "