9mm VS 45acp Ballistic Chickens!!! | Glock 19 vs Colt 1911

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11 күн бұрын

9mm vs 45 acp ballistic chicken test using colt 1911 and Glock 19. Federal hst ammunition used in both
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@popinfresh3088 10 күн бұрын

Hey thanks for the test brother! I like a 45acp personally , but you can't go wrong with either one. Interesting comparison!

@thegundungeon 10 күн бұрын

Both did very well in my opinion

@LTTUSA 9 күн бұрын

I use the Federal HST in my 3.5” .45acp and the expansion and penetration are spot on for personal protection.

@thegundungeon 9 күн бұрын

Good choice

@PerceptionVsReality333 8 күн бұрын

The 45acp was more damaging even though it was standard pressure. The Federal HST +P 124 grain is my favorite SD/HD round in my Beretta92FS & the weight of the pistol handles it like a champ.

@GunsBlazingRanch 6 күн бұрын

Great video 👍

@ThePenn7 18 күн бұрын

HST's expand!

@thegundungeon 10 күн бұрын

That’s a fact lol

@thespankdmonkey 9 күн бұрын

Both calibers have been a friend of the Reaper for many years.Going way back in time.

@thegundungeon 9 күн бұрын

That’s a fact

@markholen8399 10 күн бұрын

Love the chicken test. Thanks. Interesting to see how the federal punch would do.

@thegundungeon 10 күн бұрын

Hmm I’m not sure, of all the tests I’ve done it seems the hst has always done better than the punch, but I haven’t tested many in the punch either though

@stephenbaker3284 7 күн бұрын

Synchronized dancing when first hit with 45 caliber.

@thegundungeon 7 күн бұрын

lol 😂

@Christopher67207 10 күн бұрын

10mm Chicken test 👍

@thegundungeon 9 күн бұрын

I’ve got one vs 357 mag out there

@justusbryant7366 9 күн бұрын

They make a plus p for the 45

@donniejobe5662 7 күн бұрын

Great review 👍😎

@mckenzieb92 7 күн бұрын

I carry both 9mm and 45, 9mm when im just going out casually and 45 when I'm going into the wilderness, also 45 for home defense

@jonathansheeder5153 7 күн бұрын

Very well done! Subbed.

@thegundungeon 7 күн бұрын

Thank you!!!

@Tonys_House 10 күн бұрын

I love the ballistic chicken!!! Most "real" economicly feasible test I've seen. Both perform well enough and you used the loads I carry in both. Capacity vs Wound Track. Me... capacity unless it's the 4th of July weekend 🙂

@thegundungeon 10 күн бұрын

Closest test I’ve done yet I think

@rogerwood5228 10 күн бұрын

Good looking test. Both preformed well and as intended. I wouldn't be bothered carrying either of them. I was born with a 45 in my hand though, lol.

@thegundungeon 10 күн бұрын

I was surprised how close it was

@AaronBell-vx4pl 7 күн бұрын

I appreciate the mention of different barrel lengths vs. +P ammunition velocities. The argument is DEFINITELY settled...they're both great!

@ChollaJJ 6 күн бұрын

If a 9 it must be the plus P hp, I prefer the 124 gr. If the .45 also a plus P 200 gr hp. Both work well. .45 gets the nod. Larger hole . Meat destruction looked the same from here. Thanks 👍🤠

@andrewbrumagen3479 9 күн бұрын

That's why I chose HST to protect myself and my wife. I have only nines. My son said that he carries HSTs. When I bought my first pistol he said you have to buy some HSTs.

@thegundungeon 9 күн бұрын

Good choice

@andrewbrumagen3479 9 күн бұрын

@@thegundungeon I never saw anything bad about them on KZfaq.

@barefootbob1269 7 күн бұрын

I have watcher 100's of videos of testing in ballistic gel. This is hands down the best test I have ever seen! It gives a whole new visual on what damage is caused to flesh and bone when hi by a bullet. It also shows that gel alone does not make the bullets react the same as just gel. In many tests you will never get the expansion the bullets are intended to do. Super cool video thanks for the effort. After seeing this it makes you wonder how anyone can survive a gunshot much less four or five!

@thegundungeon 7 күн бұрын

The human body is a resilient thing lol

@barefootbob1269 7 күн бұрын

@@thegundungeon Boy ain't that the truth!

@mike17912A 9 күн бұрын

Great video both performed excellent, you really can’t go wrong with either. The 30 super carry vs 9 would be interesting.

@thegundungeon 9 күн бұрын

I have a 30 super carry vs 9mm chicken video out already. I think I used hsts Edit: nope I used gold dots lol kzfaq.info/get/bejne/g7WEla2BsZ65k40.htmlsi=Q_2GuAhI1BUn_XUr

@ErickaC-mc7vg 9 күн бұрын

Here at the house for a bump in the night a Commander 1911 with a Chip McCormick 10 Rd. magazine stuffed with 230 grain hollow points is the go to. Out and about I take 9mm for the capacity. Good test and video, thank you.

@thegundungeon 9 күн бұрын

Sounds like a great duo

@jamesmarkov9570 4 күн бұрын

Nice video.

@smokepole14 9 күн бұрын

Good test! Those was very similar. Makes me wonder if you add a heavy clothing layer would they still perform the same?

@thegundungeon 9 күн бұрын

I’ve yet to see hst’s be affected by the 4 layers of denim in any of the gel tests I’ve done with them. Hst and gold dot are my two go to’s

@steelpunisher6944 9 күн бұрын

I love my HST’s. The +p 124 is what I carry and when I do carry my G30 I have +p 230 HST in it. I love the chicken tests! You can’t go wrong with either one imho. Awesome video as always good sir 🇺🇸🇺🇸

@thegundungeon 9 күн бұрын

Thank you sir!

@timsmith5837 8 күн бұрын

Excellent test, have you considered placing a hoodie or similar material in front of the first target. Great job

@waterhead1359 7 күн бұрын

I shoot gold dot 45 +p , they are nasty

@dugie5246 3 күн бұрын

I would think the 45acp would be a step up over 9mm because of bullet weight and interia and surrounding tissue damage. But, 9mm pistols have usually more rounds. I would prefer 45acp for home defense and 9mm carry. Don't think you can go wrong with either. GREAT VIDEO!

@teflondonii9298 7 күн бұрын

New subscriber👍🏾👍🏾Great video.

@thegundungeon 7 күн бұрын

Thanks man!

@BatColonyEvictor 9 күн бұрын

Great test Gun Dungeon! I wouldn't want to be shot by either one of those! I personally carry the 9mm HST +P and will continue to do so.

@thegundungeon 9 күн бұрын

Solid choice!

@JoseyWhales-ii4dk 6 күн бұрын

Good stuff brother 🇺🇸💪

@denniscraig6022 9 күн бұрын

Good video . I carry a 9 EDC, but I do love and trust my 45s in my full size.

@alessandropereirapassos6220 8 күн бұрын

9mm always. Because carry ammo is 100% important.

@mopesrus7266 6 күн бұрын

Where did you get your ballistic chickens? Midway, Brownell's, or Win Dixie?

@thegundungeon 6 күн бұрын

@@mopesrus7266 target sports lol

@DanTheWolfman 10 күн бұрын

Awesome vid both great but momentum will always matter through bone. When the chickens are front and when they are sideways what is the total thickness of them? Like 7" frontal 10" sideways or a bit more? Breastbone is hard and avg of all angles to heart is 7.9"

@thegundungeon 10 күн бұрын

I have a couple in the freezer for next video, I’ll measure in a bit and get back with you

@DanTheWolfman 10 күн бұрын

@thegundungeon something to add next time too line em up get tape measure then shoot. Cool u got through some bones but they must be pretty thin. I do the double 1/4" mdf in my Modern Meat Target because biped sternum is hard and about .4 thick, figure some animals more so. Watch some of mine drop some thoughts. Cheers. I'm 9mm hst sunmer literally right now and 40 hst winter w occasional. 357 and .45 thrown in

@thegundungeon 9 күн бұрын

5.5” thick, 7.25” wide at the thighs

@DanTheWolfman 9 күн бұрын

@thegundungeon through both...??? Or each? That's not so far gives people idea why penetration is important

@thegundungeon 9 күн бұрын

@@DanTheWolfman each, that was one I measured in the freezer, it’s still kinda sucked in in the vacuum sealed pack too so that’s tight measurements.

@TheRealZJM377 9 күн бұрын

Nice job. Can you do Barnes TAC-XPD 9 or 45

@thegundungeon 9 күн бұрын

Let me see what I can find

@TheRealZJM377 9 күн бұрын

@@thegundungeon ok thanks

@paulbeard410 8 күн бұрын

I was ready to predict the 9mm as the clear winner, even as a .45 EDC guy, due to the +P speed. Wow! What an even Steven test! Bullet win goes to the .45 for its larger diameter and extra weight. Gun win goes to the Glock for capacity, but also to the 1911 for its oh so sweet trigger (see, I am always trying to find a win for my EDC). Great video!!

@thegundungeon 8 күн бұрын

About as close as I think I’ll ever get one lol 😂

@greybeard277 10 күн бұрын

I was planning on having chicken today, think I'll opt for the ribeye instead. I like 45 myself but 9 is not bad. Thanks for the video.

@thegundungeon 10 күн бұрын

Can’t go wrong with ribeye lol

@thomaspalmer7900 9 күн бұрын

Well I learned one thing for sure!! The 9mm HST +P 124 grain will definitely get the job done!!! The Federal HST 230 grain will definitely get the job done as well. I personally have 2 pistols that I EDC & they are the S&W M&P Shield 9mm 2.0 5” barrel loaded with the HST 124 grain +P JHP & my Glock G21 G4 loaded with the HST 230 grain +P JHP. Both are excellent fantastic pistols & I absolutely trust my life with both of them!!! Great video. Yes I subscribed!!!!!!!👍👍

@thegundungeon 9 күн бұрын

Great choices! Thanks for the sub!!

@kenday4158 8 күн бұрын

Winner winner, chicken dinner!

@charlesjames5477 8 күн бұрын

great video TGD!! i use 9mm because of cost $ cant beat it

@thegundungeon 8 күн бұрын

That’s a factor as well

@JuanGonzalez-cl4md 10 күн бұрын

One of the best.

@thegundungeon 10 күн бұрын

Was crazy close lol

@zed9955 10 күн бұрын

I wish they made a 185 grain HST in 45 ACP also.

@sgtbones1837 10 күн бұрын

Why 185 gr

@rogerwood5228 10 күн бұрын

@sgtbones1837 185 would be good for shorter barrels and increase likelihood of consistent expansion. The added velocity would also aid in dumping that energy early and more violently.

@thegundungeon 10 күн бұрын

Or a 200

@rogerwood5228 10 күн бұрын

@@thegundungeon yes!

@TheRealZJM377 9 күн бұрын

@@rogerwood5228dude there is so much testing being done and most of it is SHOWING short Barrels give 0 expansion

@ThePenn7 18 күн бұрын

They're my favorite too!

@thegundungeon 10 күн бұрын

Wish they’d release the bullets for reloaders

@normanpersing2475 7 күн бұрын

I have always been concerned that carrying 9mm in my self defense gun left me at a caliber disadvantage until now. Great video!

@thegundungeon 7 күн бұрын

Thank you

@mobilejonny 8 күн бұрын

I love both calibers and, to be honest, I have never felt that one was balistically superior over the other enough to make a difference for civilian use. Both have a place for CCW with their own pros and cons. I lean towards 9mm for capacity, recoil/follow up shot speed, and weapon size, but I would feel comfortable with either. Love these videos... keep up the great work.

@thegundungeon 8 күн бұрын

Hence why I’m a 30 super carry fan lol 😆

@mobilejonny 8 күн бұрын

@@thegundungeon LOL ... man you are selling that hard! I really wanted to like that when it came out. Glad to see you are single-handedly propping up the market.

@thegundungeon 8 күн бұрын

@@mobilejonny lol I’m trying! I’m going to keep pushing til I get a dang p365 XL chambered in it lol. And a smith and Wesson shield 45 frame but in 10mm. Those are my two wants!

@mobilejonny 8 күн бұрын

@@thegundungeon If anyone can do it, you can! 🤣 I believe in you.

@thegundungeon 8 күн бұрын

@@mobilejonny lol 😆

@williammatthews2948 8 күн бұрын

Federal HST is what I carry in all of my self-defense pistols. It's very good ammunition.

@thegundungeon 8 күн бұрын

I agree

@randyduncan795 9 күн бұрын

Takeaway: Either one works supremely well. The loads & the guns. I've carried both for years, a 5" 1911 in my young years and a G19 for many. A G19 is way easier to wear all day but a nice standard pressure 45 like this HST is much easier on the ears out of a 5". My first shot is a bit better out of a 1911 but the fast follow-ups are better out of the G19. I EDC the G19 but the 1911 will always be my favorite pistol. HSTs and Gold Dots in these same pressures and weights are my choice. Sometimes 147gr HSTs in a micro 9mm for deep concealment.

@thegundungeon 9 күн бұрын

Well said

@PerceptionVsReality333 8 күн бұрын

A lot of people say that 9mm is louder than 45acp but when I shoot my G19 & Beretta92FS with my friend's G21 without earmuffs there's literally no sound difference, same with my 40s&w G22 but my Ruger GP100 6" 357mag is way louder.

@randyduncan795 8 күн бұрын

@@PerceptionVsReality333 9mm+P is considerably louder out of my G19 than 230gr HST is out of a 5" 1911. Not a commander. Not an officer's model. That full length bbl is all the difference. But 357 is so fun with hearing protection.

@PerceptionVsReality333 7 күн бұрын

@@randyduncan795 Well duh, it's a higher than average pressure round genius. I was referring to standard factory FMJ ammo.

@randyduncan795 7 күн бұрын

@@PerceptionVsReality333 Oh, I see- you think std pressure FMJ is a common choice for a SD load. And yes, even std pressure 9 is louder out of the G19 vs std pressure HST out of a 5". Look up the pressure ratings for both to understand why.

@waholoopesorry74 9 күн бұрын

I used to carry 9 but now I carry 45. I’m curious to see what 45 FMJ ammo would do in this test.

@thegundungeon 9 күн бұрын

I’d guess very small holes and little damage. The same as it does in gel

@waholoopesorry74 9 күн бұрын

@@thegundungeon hollow points do very little damage to gel blocks too. With pistol ammo only the permanent wound cavity matters

@thegundungeon 9 күн бұрын

@@waholoopesorry74 right but fmj does significantly less than an expanded hollow point. No crush cavity at all with a fmj

@LTTUSA 9 күн бұрын

Federal HST LE is my #1 choice for Self Defense

@thegundungeon 9 күн бұрын

I just wish federal would sell the projectiles for us bench junkies lol

@lastnerve3705 3 күн бұрын

Target Sports USA ROCKS! Ammo+ Membership will save you even more….

@thegundungeon 3 күн бұрын

@@lastnerve3705 that’s a fact. My membership for the year has been made up for months ago and then some

@edperitore321 3 күн бұрын

Do this test again with a 185 gr. 45+p which is what cops carry.

@thegundungeon 3 күн бұрын

@@edperitore321 do they make an HST in that?

@chemex9968 9 күн бұрын

you look absolutely great big bro.

@thegundungeon 9 күн бұрын

Thank you, started taking fitness serious recently.

@rimfirejunkie7427 9 күн бұрын

For the rounds fired, 45 wins. Bigger holes leak faster. Being said, the performance discrepancy does not outshadow recoil, capacity, shootability, cost of plastic v steel guns etc. Guns being equal, Im carrying 10mm, 45A then 9mm, but guns and capacity are not equal and the comparisons are weighted differently.

@thegundungeon 9 күн бұрын

10mm always wins!

@mattspriggs5945 10 күн бұрын

I'm guessing the chickens aren't going on the grill?? This should be a test that Federal uses to show how effective these loads are - wow!

@thegundungeon 10 күн бұрын

Doggos enjoy when we do ballistic chicken testing lol

@byronjohnson9029 10 күн бұрын

Where’s the super carry? Chickens got off easy lol.

@thegundungeon 10 күн бұрын

lol 😂 what’s so strange is I was just sitting here thinking of doing a critical defense vs critical defense 9mm vs 30 super carry chicken video when your comment popped up lol

@byronjohnson9029 9 күн бұрын

@@thegundungeon that’s funny

@byronjohnson9029 9 күн бұрын

@@thegundungeon yea and use your hand loads to show the difference.

@jarodchronister3522 7 күн бұрын

I specifically carry .45 because of where I live. I need a man stopper and a wild life stopper. We don’t have black bears that often here but, we do have mountain lions, javelina and black bears roam around on my property. Black bears here don’t really merit 10mm in my opinion.

@jjmag3107 5 күн бұрын

🐔

@dtodeen 8 күн бұрын

Did you eat that chicken afterwords

@thegundungeon 8 күн бұрын

Didn’t watch the end huh? lol 😂 doggos love chicken test day

@JohnDoesItAll 3 күн бұрын

.45 acp doesn't need a +P😉

@8867348 8 күн бұрын

The chickens were already dead before you shot them. What carnal damage? Lol.

@Tonys_House 10 күн бұрын

Chicken!!!....🎉

@thegundungeon 10 күн бұрын

Fowl play lol

@Christopher67207 10 күн бұрын

@@thegundungeon lol

@dannydowell9979 9 күн бұрын

Either or……only capacity is the major difference.

@thegundungeon 9 күн бұрын

Recoil, momentum, weight, couple other considerations.

@megabyte2695 3 күн бұрын

Most American American I've ever seen 😂🇺🇲

@thegundungeon 3 күн бұрын

@@megabyte2695 🇺🇸😎💪

@RichardPascual-cz9jy 3 күн бұрын

Poor chicken😂

@8867348 8 күн бұрын

Lol. +P is cheating.

@atomross13 10 күн бұрын

nice performing bullets. Don't think you can go wrong with either caliber.

@thegundungeon 10 күн бұрын

Very good results from both

@vlogfriendsutopia 10 күн бұрын

Another thing to remember is that dead meat is inelastic, so it's no one to one, but it tells us what it tells us.

@thegundungeon 10 күн бұрын

I have live chickens… 🤔

@vlogfriendsutopia 9 күн бұрын

@@thegundungeon Well hey! Next time the rooster is too loud...

@thegundungeon 9 күн бұрын

@@vlogfriendsutopia lol 😂

@wastool 9 күн бұрын

The obvious choice is 9mm. The preform with modern ammunition (HST) is so similar you might as well get the capacity and cost benefits of the 9mm

@thegundungeon 9 күн бұрын

Ah hem… 30 super carry lol 😂

@user-to9ux9tj8r 7 күн бұрын

I have both, i like both and i carry both, altho im not certain if the ,45 will blow your lungs out like the 9mm...

@thegundungeon 7 күн бұрын

lol I mean Biden said it, it must be true! 😂

@zigbeegooblesnort125 8 күн бұрын

Speer Gold Dot 200gr +P has ft lb.s at 10mm level.

@Chris_Locke 5 күн бұрын

Fun video brother. Kinda off topic but where can we find that "Liberty or Death" Tshirt at?? 🫡🔥

@thegundungeon 5 күн бұрын

@@Chris_Locke Vedder holsters website

@buddysumner4022 9 күн бұрын

Humm,, they done awesome damage but the penetration is lacking , that’s one thing that bothers me about the hst,, I won’t something that digs deep,, I believe I’m gonna have to replace my hst with critical duty ammo,, I no I can get the penetration I won’t from them

@thegundungeon 9 күн бұрын

As long as you’re carrying a full size barrel, I can’t get critical duty to expand from short barrels.

@buddysumner4022 9 күн бұрын

@@thegundungeon I carry a 43, and XDs and I use the 124gr +p critical duty and they expand great but now when it comes two the 135gr +p or standered pressure from my 43 ad xds they don’t open up half the time, but with the 124gr +p they are awesome

@thegundungeon 9 күн бұрын

@@buddysumner4022 the 135 is what I tested and couldn’t get to expand reliably. I haven’t tried 124gr critical duty. I typically carry gold dots most of the time since they are sold as just projectiles and I like to roll my own defensive ammo. Knowing for sure each primer has an anvil and compound, every case has a correct charge, and every bullet is crimped correctly means a lot to me, more so than and legal ramification that has yet to ever be an actual case issue in the history of ever lol

@buddysumner4022 9 күн бұрын

@@thegundungeon yep, I believe a lot of people worry to much about over penetration,, but I’ll take my chances if god forbid I have to,

@user-im9ov9ud7m 9 күн бұрын

The bullets went through skin meat bones and gel plenty of depth to let something know you are serious. They expanded well and there was lots of damage. Most likely you'll lose something to obtain whatever it is you hope to gain.