There is the CM-Alpha1 frame which allows for the bolt on batteries. Capt. is riding the CM-Allha1

​​@@kb-rl1pneven that has a protrusion ment to house proprietary battery cases, those are simple chinese frames. not doubting the quality at all, but they are not something specifically built for strength and ease of mounting of the LR motor like you could've thought. they could've done better by sorting frames without any battery housing at all, but that would've been impossible considering that all pre made frames with a mid motor housing will always be predisposed for a battery. the frame you mentioned is the best compromise.

You can contact North Bay bikes directly. It’s not going to outrageous though when you consider what it can do. I’ll have some more video work on it pretty soon. Cheers

Mike @ Lightning Rods can make almost anything happen. But the BB would stick out too far on the frame.

It would do a right hand drive version. 219 chain rather than belt probably need a custom rear hub but doable.

Cheers Luke. The other frame version is open triangle which is on the build I have done. There is some riding footage of that. But essentially its the same drive train.

Happiness is an Ebike named Cotton.... kzfaq.info/get/bejne/eLOUdcucnajRYGg.html

yes

That is cool. Any idea of how the powered drive chain would work with a rear suspension frame? I just checked some earlier videos and saw this bike used to have a chain tensioner system for it?

The frame was under development in the past video. We went back to the drawing board and redesigned the rear dropout to allow for adjustment. The adjustment has allowed us to get rid of the tensioner now. Less maintenance and much quieter now. The FS version is still being re-worked as well. Will be available later on after full testing is completed.

Ah that is great news.

Lightning Rods do motor drives that would work with the Restretto frame for sure.

Thanks mate!

Customer will use his own battery. Empty battery case can be provided for customer to have battery built to desired specs.

That's an amazing bike build guys its very well thought through with high end parts i like it🤘 I like how you did both sides for a future belt drive setup👍 (it'll be tricky to get both belt sizes right and the wheel straight if you put 2 belts on it, one on each side) I put a Rohloff speedhub 14 speed in one of my ebikes after the Chinese one it came with blew up being driven from a stock Bafang m620 motor and that thing is awesome 👌 nice one guys👌

Cheers Ross

Hello Ross, almost all of the torque is channeled via the left side of the bike, instead of the traditional right side. Yes future dual belt drive testing will be interesting to see.

Not in North America. It’s only Europe with such draconian restrictions and not everywhere either. It’s also self regulating so those Bosch motors they claim are 250 watt are in fact much higher in reality.

@@HighVoltageKits Yes! Over 250 watts IS illegal on many, many American bicycle paths!!!

Must be individual path regulations then cause I don’t know of any Ebike classifications in the US with that limit. It’s 750 watts. Where are you located?

Well aware of the limitations of trail speed in different jurisdictions through out the US. The Cottonmouth design is nice because you can set the power levels to basically anything that would fit local laws and the ability to ride it analog as well. A friend of mine owns a sweet Corvette that will do 140mph in a 55mph zone. He makes the right decision to drive responsibly and follows the rules,although he is free to make his own bad decision to drive 140mph inappropriately. Just a thought.

I will ask them to post some numbers. 6kw is the power not the price. There are some other advantages to it over the Sur Ron / Talaria option as well as smoking them both off the line.

I take it you haven't seen the LMX 64 A step above bitrix!

I know both. This is about twice the power of the LMX for less money

@@HighVoltageKits Yes, what a awesome motor!

@@HighVoltageKits How does this compare to the lyric graffiti X ?

I think you might need to elaborate a bit here. What are these advances you are not seeing?

@@HighVoltageKits Lots of things like new different frame materials and overall design, better battery and drive systems and such. I am basically saying that it seems to me that new bike technology is not coming as fast as other areas of progress in this day and age.

Interesting. I think some of that is it’s being hindered by regulations. Not many companies are willing to put money into development of drive systems when the largest markets are so restricted in terms of use and capability. In terms of batteries I think things always evolve slowly but there are encouraging signs. Another reason is also the bicycle in general is such a refined concept. So many parts of it are optimized so for something to change it has to be better than what exists. I have seen lots of potentially cool gear boxes and belt systems. Yet they are insanely expensive and their benefit over a quality set of sprockets and derailleur is debatable. There is quite a bit of innovation in this bike though. The dual drive train means you can ride it like a regular bike at 250-750 watts and also enjoy much higher power when appropriate all on the same bike. Variable regen braking. I’ll go over some more in the next little bit. We have a tiny budget so pretty sure if the regulations were more friendly the bigger players would be doing more. Sadly much of the effort from Bosch and Shimano is to keep things as they are because that protects their market share.

lithium ion batteries are improving rapidly. Top manufacturers like molicel and samsung are releasing new cells year after year with higher capacity and performance under higher loads. The motor core used on this bike is not new, but the rest of the motor/drivetrain is constantly improving with every model being made.

@@ballpoint7887 reliable cells like the samsung 50s and molicel p45b are nice, but "improving rapidly" is giving the marketing of these companies way-way too much credit. specific energy has been stagnating for 15 years! there's very little. 265 watthours per kilo on the cell level is what we have. often there's a promise of more, and one by one every single one of these later turn out to be either outright lies or have a major thing about them that makes them un-workable at scale. the cells are also cheaper than they were 15 years ago, again this is great, but "improving rapidly"? are they really?