It’s a Specialized Fatboy with a modified bbshd. There are ton of videos on it in my videos list. We sell the upgrade kits. You can also join our discord which is a good resource for building electric bikes.

I’m just going on what’s been claimed. It’s not shocking that a manufacturer exaggerates those stats though lol. They are all at it. In terms of efficiency vs ipm. Is this including field weakening. Once you start using that and you do need to for high performance on a Sur Ron the amount of battery consumption increases significantly. Good point on the aftersales and repair. I heard that the Sur Ron is taking a beating from a clone called the e-ride now. Stock 72 volts out of the box but pretty much a clone otherwise.

@@HighVoltageKits If You need higher rpm - use more voltage, why bother with FW?

@aiev5545 usually with the Sur Ron it’s because the controller options are limiting it. The ASI BAC4000 and 8000 which was the first upgrade is 72 volt max. But yeah higher voltage is good. Sourcing batteries becomes more and more difficult the higher you go.

Here CYC Photon, can it be reliable? - Back from repair, my experience with the warranty process. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ndx3hNhm1qqzfqc.html sadly it didn’t last long. 30kms and another issue. I need time to trouble shoot it though.

Yeah it should be good for that fingers crossed. Mine broke again. I will hopefully get chance to troubleshoot it soon.

Mine is still broken right now. I need to get time to really trouble shoot it. Interesting that the fail was magnet related as they make pretty bullish claims about how much heat they can handle.

@@HighVoltageKits in all fairness I have been "pushing the envelope" initially; however, this is not a definitive - it is my assumption - there was a sudden thud then metalic grinding noise and successive temperature rise/jump, saw a video clip of cyc motor (think photon(?)) being opened on yt (cannot find it now), it showed a magnet past "explosion" (kind of flowering like), photon essentially consists of 2 parts, 2nd stage which is relatively easy to get to, the 1st stage where as described above; requires ungluing the cover (by use of a heat gun) - did not get that far as the device was under warranty and I did not want to void that by potentially causing a further damage, in my humble opinion X1 Gen4 really looks service/repair friendly which is a huge attribute, and taking it apart to replace planetary gears and to clean and re-lubricate the gearbox and motor shaft every six to twelve months I see as a acceptable compromise.., even replacing the gearbox every say twelve months may be acceptable cost/inconvenience for the amount of power available, as with all "high-performance" items there always are associated service/maintenance costs.., and it all depends on case by case user application.. What I would like to see is the implementation of belt(s) (gates) instead of chains for both primary and secondary drives, at least for primary on X1 Gen4, but that's just me.. 😁😁

Yeah I heard they were using VESC tech in breach of the open source rules. They are lucky there are still able to sell it.

@@HighVoltageKits btw about Flipsky etc, there also is Makerbase, but afaik most of those things weren't directly designed by them Makerbase made the HP series, which are actually true phase sensing models with proper naming (i.e. not recommended to go over 84V) and are fully opensource they're also cheap as hell, picked my 84200HP's up for only €110 a piece and they use INA 241A's (which is the higher voltage version of the INA240, previously commonly used in 60V max phase sensing vescs that did not use the DRV chips, but those are proper current sensors, not the opamp garbage Flipsky and Makerbase pulled off with the 75200's it also has phase filters, they're sort of based on the 75/300 but with 100V max components, the ina241A's having 110V max common mode bandwidth that is particularly exciting as you can literally run any motor with genuine silent HFI, which works really, really good, if you have a temperature probe in the motor and tuned well it is actually far more accurate and effective than hall sensors

Yeah they should do. Maybe join our discord server and post in the toseven rooms on there?

@@daftdigital cheers will shoot you an email.

Good stuff. Let us know how you get on!

@@HighVoltageKits Will do

I’ll do a more detailed look at it. Mine worked out of the box. It’s either a major fault or a setting that is set to off.

It’s 52 volts in this video. I did upgrade it further later tho

@@HighVoltageKits fairplay that makes sense .

Great stuff. They should have just kept things how it was instead of making people do all this stuff

@@HighVoltageKits Thank you for the tutorial, would not have done this without watching this content, please keep it up.

Cheers Bob. It’s based on that lux sound on KZfaq

You could set it to 250 watts if. Needed and limit the speed. Then unlock off-road. Although that’s probably a grey area

@HighVoltageKits great video. Uk law the motor can't exceed 250 watts output, I think.

It’s being built right now. Underframe. Hopefully an update pretty soon

Love it! Sounds awesome!

I don’t understand. You can’t pedal a Sur Ron.

@HighVoltageKits the bbshd, I believe it wouldn't be a fair test if the bbshd wasn't pedalled from cold start. Surron hasn't got pedals, bbshd has. So for true speed, you have to utilise the entire power available for each bike. Since sur hasn't got pedals, it could potentially be equal.

@jakebaked5996 Ahh ok I understand. In this case though it’s a modified bbshd so the speed at the crank is about three times peddle speed under throttle. It’s not like with a stock motor.

@HighVoltageKits OK, I also see what you mean. Though I feel extra pedal power might have given you an advantage still. Everyone trying to de restrict theirs and there's me trying to tune mine down to appear legal power for UK roads.

Very easy to remove which is good cause I just got one lol!

Sounds good! Hopefully the end product will be good

Hope it lasts for you! The only risk is a bms going bad in a way you don’t expect and it leading to overcharge or discharge of the battery. If they are good enough quality it ought to catch that though.

With enough money anything is possible but that cost there are better motors.

I’ll see how it goes and holds up. Cheers Tim

I don’t like clipping my phone on there. It’s free so I’ll see how it goes. Cheers

Partly cause they asked me to try it. I don’t like using my phone on the bike though. The wiring is going to be very much hidden though.

What type of comment is this ? He’s done this because he wants to. Makes a good video too

@@DoubleBluffing Calm down sir. I'm not shooting the messenger, just the product. Let's keep things real here. Not all products are equally great and useful...

@@detmer87 of course yes I agree. Even I wouldn’t have this on my bike but maybe an elderly man or lady might find it useful for navigation

It’s been lovely so far! Fingers crossed. I’ll be in Wales for a fair bit by the coast. I came prepared though! Cheers

@@HighVoltageKits glad your enjoying it, hoping it holds out for you.

Thanks Sean

I’m not sure the extent to which apps will work. But potentially although the eggrider does this already. I’ll go over what apps I can use in future videos.

Thanks Nick, appreciated!

Thanks. Pedal spacing is a bit wide but about on par with my fat bike. Should have full suspension news later next month

I know that one lol

Great work to all involved!!

Cheers Gizmo!

220mm rotor on the rear is rather extreme! I cannot reach the limits of my 180mm and a similar weight setup.

It’s needed in some way due to the combined sprocket. I have barely touched it. The regen is pretty good

Cheers Tim! Get saving mate

Should be news next month. Cheers

@HighVoltageKits I would love to add this motor to something like the Arc Hero or Arc Nemesis, Even a Ristretto 512 or a Meelod DK300, and add a second battery or something similar to what the Aniioki can do in riding long distances. I'm in the US and they are building bike paths that are 50 to 100 miles all over the US so having range is important to me. Hopefully, soon we will get smaller long-range batteries with fast charging and much cheaper to produce. As for riding speed, I like the idea that I can get up to speed if needed and keep a constant speed when going up a steep hill but most of the time I go at average Ebike speeds enjoying the beautiful countryside. Excellent suspension and a comfortable seat should be number 1 for those who like long-distance travel. Way too many e-bikes are being hashed out and all are all the same nothing special lacking in good suspension a comfortable seat and maybe a slightly different look. Why is this? Why wouldn't they focus on comfort I don't know and the person runs out looking for a replacement seat or upgraded the suspension so it's not bottoming out. I'm better off buying a quality frame and getting my parts to build a good all-around bike right from the start!

Yeah if you have the funds!

Ahhh I just met up with my mate. He is building a 72 volt pack but a wedding side tracked things. Selfish git lol. Hopefully we will be out riding soon!

Good point. I’ll have to get the scales out!

The prototype with battery weighed in at 69lbs of love!

Sorry mate. The three wheeler?

@@HighVoltageKits Yes, thank you again I was the one who asked about putting mid motor on the 26" Beach cruisers and temperature , water 💦 well it's a 3 wheeler with 144 spoke I need a fast pulling a trailer some times going 2 make a lighter one later how can we do BUSINESS

@freddysoto7021 if you want to use this motor system get in touch with North Bay Bikes or Lightning Rods via our discord server. The link is in the description

THANK U 😁 ​@@HighVoltageKits

Hopefully have some more info before long

FS would probably be great for ride comfort, definitely not for off roading though given the battery mounting 🤔

@kimhyunwoo8983 it’s fine for light trails. Nothing super knarly tho.

A full suspension kit ready to go. I'd buy one straight up. Put it on my e22

@@kimhyunwoo8983 Exactly, this could be my dream commuter bike.

I’m not 100% sure this was a featured bike rather than one I did myself. I think they are called centre kick stands

Yeah it’s pretty damn good. At least with the power and rpm on this setup. If you go much lower it will just want to pop a wheelie

I can’t do one that quick as I’m going on my hold. The brakes annoyed me tho so I replaced with Tektro quad pistons. Much much better. My wife has been using it everyday and likes it though.

​@@HighVoltageKitsNonetheless, I appreciate the quick reply. Enjoy your holiday.

@Lex_Lugar thanks. Appreciate it

Sorry I missed this. I’m not too familiar with the frame. Best bet is to join our discord via the links and post some photos.

Bbshds you can get all over. Aliexpress is likely the cheapest. Where are you located?

@@HighVoltageKits l live in DOMINGUEZ CALIFORNIA 🇺🇸🏁 I what a fast . With the F-ing laws I could get a sticker saying a lower voltage ⚡ please please 🙏🏽 help me

Yeah just put a sticker on it. I doubt you will get bothered in California unless you are being really daft

I​@@HighVoltageKitsI would like 2 do BUSINESS .I need a conversation and they fastest and since it's a 3 wheeler I will have 2 let go of the handle bar some times on the turn's maybe use foot control . One more thing U think it could mess up BLUETOOTH speakers (MOTOR) THANK U 🙏🏽

Can you please help me how much and where please thank you

I modified my dmo2. So it’s not really representative. I don’t think either motor are that noticeable when riding. It’s not louder than a bbshd. When I get my Photon fixed I might try and get a decibel meter.

Not much difference. The Photon a bit higher pitch maybe but in terms of loudness very similar

Thanks Lenny. It’s a chat app with forum style rooms dedicated to light electric vehicles. The join link is in the description.

I am looking forward to trying the new firmware. Lots of people have told me it’s much better.