Alistair Campbell was absolutely right in his assertions, and I also feel, justified in his anger too, because the BBC are way too soft on Brexiteers, and members of the Tory Party, who are indeed let off the hook, and allowed to talk utter ‘nonsense’, and fantasy politics, without being held to account by the real facts. It was interesting to see, that after all this time has elapsed since the Brexit Referendum, Alex Phillips still pushed the same old Brexit lie about our laws being made by the EU - and Alistair Campbell had to hold her to account with the true facts, that those laws were made with the full participation of British MEP’s, when we were a Member State of the EU.

He was totally right to have a go at the BBC.

That woman was enough to make the most placid person angry Tim

If someone had taken Alistair's position before Brexit, maybe we wouldn't be in this mess and suffering the drivel from the proponents of this failed charade.

If only there was the same furore over politicians lying as there is over ACs behaviour. Is it not causality? He is exasperated because they get away with it time and again.

Campbell (not my favourite person) got annoyed and rightly so. He (and I suspect thousands of others) are fed up with so-called journalists not challenging some of the nonsense and lies mouthed by the likes of Phillips, Farage, Johnson, Tice, Oakenshott et al. For once I'll say, "Good on you, Mr Campbell."

The trouble is that the frustration we all feel when Brexiteers are still denying the problems and blaming everyone else for not getting the result they wanted. Meantime people are suffering. Really suffering. Frankly, I find it hard to have a nuanced discussion when one person is just giving gattling gun responses that show no understanding or responsibility. I'm sorry Campbell lost his rag, he is always on a short fuse, but I was howling at the screen long before he got to that point. Seven years and we still are not getting real answers from the people who have created this nightmare for millions of people. If it had been Piers Morgan - no one would have expected any other behaviour in support of the Brexit side, no doubt.

I think Campbell was rude, most definitely. However, I can absolutely understand his frustration at Philips and the Beeb. His comment about the Beebs conduct visa vie Brexit is 100% correct. I often see Philips on the Beeb, Politics live, Newsnight etc, why?? Her party is sparsely supported, and her argument about Brexit is irrelevant... aside from it being complete loony tunes. Her version of Brexit is even worse than the one we have. How do we "make Brexit work" Prof?

I'm with Campbell.

Lorry drivers get more money post Brexit but there's no reason why they couldn't have been paid more pre Brexit other than the greed of those that emoyed them. So I don't see that as a true Brexit benefit. Campell was spot on about the BBC's blinkers over Brexit. Farage got more air time than any other guest on the BBC and Brexit wasn't presented in a realistic way... the experts all said it was a bad idea, but the BBC presented this as an equal split. "10 minutes to find 50 remain economists and 5 hours to find one pro brexit economist" was how Emily Maitliss described it. The BBC failed in their one responsibility to hold truth to power and the Nation is still being gaslighted by these Brexit Charatans!

From what I saw, she was blatantly lying, and he was trying to get her to correct herself, but obviously, she was never going to admit it. He lost it, and I get it. They stand in front of us and lie to our faces, and nobody can challenge there bullshit.

I think he was having a go at Victoria because as usual these people can spout any tripe and the commentators never pick them up ??

Oh for goodness sake Tim....Abusive? Exasperation and passion horrify you?

That is not Campbell being abusive ... He didn't have time to be polite.She's a LIAR.... now that's my version of polite.

When the other side refuses to listen, you have to shout.

You will never hear a serious argument for Brexit.

Don't agree with you Prof. Campbell calling it as it is, including the BBC. I presume both women went out for drink later...

I think that the balles woman was terribly rude and aggressive to Alister Campbell. Not only I can understand that Campbell was angry at her discourse but also at her screeching. It is unfortunate that he got so angry publicly because he lost his advantage. Also Prof Brexit cannot make work

I think AC's criticism of the BBC is valid - if not of V Derbyshire - he is only saying what Emily Maitlis said about the faux impatiality of the BBC where they could get 40 economists saying Brexit would be a disaster and only 4 saying it would be a success and would have one from each camp and present their views as being equally sound.

I’m sorry Tim, Campbell wasn’t abusive at all. She just kept spouting lies, constantly talked over Campbell and when he’d had enough she played the he was being “rude” card. Which is ironic since this is the idiot who said in a speech even though she’s a woman she’d got “balls”. What’s more egregious is Victoria Derbyshire let her do it and got all precious when he called her out for it.

Sometimes telling someone they are talking rubbish is all there is left when that someone is talking bollox…..

I don't see Campbell as abusive. Phillips was abusive and started the personal attacks. Tit for tat Campbell followed up. He was absolutely correct about the BBC from what I've watched of Victoria Derbyshire and the rest of the BBC journalists who hosted discussions like this pre and post Brexit. If those journalists hadn't moderated like Derbyshire in this debate pre-Brexit, Brexit itself mightn't have happened. If the BBC and other news outlets continue on with this type of permissive Phillips "Brexiteer blaming other things bollocks", Brexit will lead to the return of troubles to Norther Ireland and the ultimate financial failure of the UK as a nation. There are already pensioners and others at the edge of starvation and freezing to death in the winter. What more are you waiting for to start tackling the catastrophe of Brexiteers and their lies? The truth that Campbell spoke, and spoke harshly, is the only way forward.

Philips really doesn't understand sovereignty and trade, does she? What does she think the Tories have partly given away in their 3 trade deals? I would defy her to name ONE EU law that has affected our domestic rights, just one.

Alastair Campbell's frustration did boil over, personally I think many people would get upset at the blatant lies and the failure of the presenter to call them out, all the programmers want was a bust up and they got it.

13 years of this government should make very British citizen absolutely blazing.

I remember when David Cameron told a female Labour M.P. to "calm down dear," and a few weeks later, a chorus of Labour M.P.s led by Ed Balls shouting the same to him, when he got all hot under the collar! Priceless. Campbell (if he still has any influence) would be better served twisting Stamer's arm on the issue of Brexit and P.R.

The BBC has not been "neutral" in the whole Brexit aftermath debate while it should be independent.

Campbell was completely right. I wasn’t horrified, I was sympathetic toward him and thought he showed restraint, far more than I would have.

Perhaps it’s time to get angry about Brexit. I’m no fan of Campbell, but someone has to burst the fantasy bubble and call out the gaslighting.

Brexiteers keep blaming Covid. Spain had Covid too and I just return from there. Everthing I bought was either half or a third of the price in the UK. I took a 4hr train journey across north of Spain - €16.00. I agree, Alastair was out of order but his point was spot on.

Anyone believing she was abused obviously hasn't had an argument with a Yorkshire woman. She was fairly rude herself btw.

This really annoys me. After all the abuse the brexiteers slung at us I think it's deserved frankly especially the comments about the BBC. It is so sad that two of my liked left wing outlets are saying these exact arguments every day but just because AC spoke with passion and blunt honesty and you cannot bring yourself to admit its necessary.

I'm afraid that Britain has lost the standing to convene a conference like that of 1951 that led to the ECHR. And it's worth remembering that Britain didn't come with clean hands to that conference. It wanted to exclude from the convention's protections any people from its colonies and former colonies. What gratitude this displayed for the thousands of soldiers from India and other former colonies who died defending Britain in WWII, not to mention the arms and materiél they provided.

We need Campbell now. Enough of the lying. Attention must be drawn to these liars. I respect his anger.

In relation to the jibe towards the BBC allowing the likes of farrij/ERG to waffle on without any contradictory information, AC was spot on. As for the puppet of the brexit propaganda merchants, "who wouldn't be frustrated and angry". ?

Their isnt any benefits to brexit that is plain to see ... the frustration is trying to reason with plain stupid

One definite advantage of Brexit (which rarely if ever gets discussed) is the fact that our politicians are now far more directly accountable to the voters/populace. No longer can they hide behind the refrain of "There is nothing we can do, that is EU policy/law." Therefore, the electorate now have far more direct power over their MPs.

The time for debate is over. Brexiters won and we are now on a ship rapidly heading towards the waterfalls. For them to say the design of the ship is different than what they thought is horrendous and everybody that indicated this would be disastrous for Britain has a right to be angry. No amount of wishful thinking is going to make Brexit better and kids are now faced with the same prospects that kids faced in Ireland in the 80s and early 90s and that was to go abroad. What stopped the emigration in Ireland was external investment - unfortunately no chance for that in Brexit Britain.

We can start (possibly lead) the debate but the lunatics can’t be allowed to poison it. And there are still too many of them, including in government.

Keir Starmer needs to find the courage to put the issue of Europe in the manifesto and not be afraid of a few voters in the red wall. I think many in the red wall are turning against brexit.

Dear Professor, every day I enjoy your ruminations on the latest events and news items, and on this issue I feel you have tried with your usual fair-mindedness and English gentility to be judicious in your comments. However whenever anyone includes the phrase ‘make Brexit work’, I get that sinking feeling and quickly lose interest. If you really think there is a way of making any kind of Brexit work in this day and age, then you need to explain your reasoning, backed up with economic and practical arguments. Otherwise, I would consider you on the same level as Liz Truss. And I really think better of you than that.

Tim perhaps you are too patient. 7 years and not even as much as an outline plan of how Brexit will work for the country as Campbell rightly pointed out.

If you have any ideas as to how to 'make Brexit work' and have it 'put money in to people's pockets' then you are a better man than any economist, analyst, brexiter or remainder. You would be in a select field of precisely one. Still, if you have a set of coated proposals, let's hear them. If not I suggest proffering unicorn droppings is not likely to encourage a much-needed dose of realism to the whole Brexit issue.

Alastair Campbell was right in everything he said, these people who campaigned for Brexit, yet complain that it's not going the way they wanted have NEVER explained how they would have done things better, virtually all the promises they made have been proven to be lies and yes not enough of these news journalists are sufficiently challenging them on this. I don't agree that he was abusive, was his behaviour aggressive, absolutely and you know what kudos to him! 👏🏾

Setting aside whether he should be held accountable for Blair's actions in Iraq, Campbell still wasn't wrong in what he stated about Brexit and the UK's role in deciding EU law, prior to leaving. I wouldn't say he was rude - more robust - and the simple truth was that Phillips was spouting the same bull, that her ilk have been since before the EU referendum (despite it having been proven to be utter rubbish many times, since then). Where I disagree with him, is in the accusations, he made against Derbyshire. There are plenty of BBC journalists, who've proven themselves to be little more than government mouth pieces, but I don't rank her as being among them. On the contrary; Victoria Derbyshire has always struck me as being one of the better BBC journalists and more inclined to hold the like of the Brextremists and/or Nazti politicians to account.

Come on prof we have had these Brexit lies go unchallenged for far too long and when they keep peddling the same rubbish no matter what frustration gets the better of most reasonable people.

Jesus or Buddha would have a problem with Alex Phillips.

It's his style. Campbell always has conducted himself in that way, even in the new Labour era. If you watch Campbell on GMB with Pierce Morgan, he did the same. And it's a strategy. He tries to make his opponents very angry and make them rant, so they start saying stupid things. All he has to do from that moment on is pointing out the stupid points. In a way, Boris has the same bullish style. And both those men just fail with opponents as Ed Miliband. Miliband knows his stuff, stays very calm and just points out their tactic. Miliband did it with Campbell in the GQ interview and Miliband did it with Johnson on PMQ's that one time. And that shows that Miliband, for all his shortcomings, still is a talented politician that many seem to underestimate. It's sad most just reduced him to that one sandwich he had. And no, he wasn't leadership material. But he could be a welcome sideshow to Starmer's dullfest. Starmer's speech at the last Labour conference is plain forgotten. I can't even remember a line from it. But Miliband's speech (with the whole "they did" with the crowd) really stuck. And that is what is still missing in the whole Brexit debate: politicians who know their stuff and are able to sell it to the people.

Sweden and Germany are the two EU countries with most immigrants not from areas previously occupied by them. Poland, Hungary, and a few other former Eastern block countries, are the countries most negative towards allowing immigrants into their country. Until last year, when Poland received the highest number of Ukranian refugees. The idea that the EU just because a conference on refugees are being held would attend, is somewhat delusional. The EU first had to establish a joint point of view on the topic. Likewise, because of the politiciation of the immigration issue in the U.S, it would be in neither party's interest to take part in international discusions on the subject, and risk upsetting voters ahead of the next election. Without neither the U.S. and the EU on board, there wouldn't be any point in having a conference at all.

Tory Boy Tim has spoken. 🤦‍♂

Retrospectively I think Campbell was absolutely right to call things out.

Professor, I didn't see the interview with Alastair Campbell, but as I've heard that 'In the Thick of It' was inspired by his time in Downing Street, i wouldn't be surprised that he might have got a bit too involved in the process. You have to be a bit cold-blooded, especially when you're being gaslit, to patiently and forensically cut through the flannel. This is the downside of spin, narrative-shaping, and gaslighting people. Patience begins to wear thin. Indeed, there is a time to stop indulging the illusory and the delusional. Especially when there is no proof that Brexit can improve things, from a relative point of less than zero. But perhaps that's what it might take to stop this farce. It's already starting with the homeowners who fixed deals are ending. They are facing huge increases in their mortgage payments, as there is a credit squeeze in progress. There are less deals available, and what are available are significantly higher. So, the flood will be coming to a lot more doorsteps very soon. So, in the game of Jenga that we call our economy, another block will be coming out. Interest rates will not decline until something breaks, and there will be more collateral damage. Interests rates need to stay high so we can afford to pay for our imports. We wouldn't want Sterling slump again, would we? So, we'll see,

Consider this - Reform got 6 seats in the LEs. There were around 8000 seats contested. That means their share was 0.075%. Yet they are constantly brought onto the BBC to propagate; as if their position is a widely supported view, all without any real push back or questioning. They get a hugely disproportionate amount of air time, in the same way Farage was pre Brexit, compared to say the Lib Dem’s or Greens. Hence Campbell gets frustrated; he is correct in his assertion, these people are given far too much air on the BBC; not to mention they have their own ‘free speech’ platforms on GBN and TalkTV. The same happened with the BBC and Brexit analysts - they would find the 1 in 100 that would say it’s going to be great, and bring them in each week, giving them 50% or more of the air time, giving the impression that it was a ‘balanced debate’ even though 99% of experts said it wasn’t.

Prof " there is still time to make brexit work " Well go on then please explain how you are going to make up a 4.2 % loss in our economy in your lifetime ?

I think he has had enough of overconfident snake oil salespeople ml

Campbell was absolutely right. However, he did not need to be rude. He did not need to to sink to her level. Yes, he was angry and rightly so, but...

I watched the interview. Tell me how many pro Europe MEP's were there on Newsnight before the Brexit vote? Just round figures, they were the majority of MEP's after all. Balance and all that!

Hasn't Starmer been in talks with von der Lyon for a series of micro deal, increasing alignment.

I found Alex Phillips to be totally disingenuous; Alastair Campbell to be overly aggressive. And I do think that it is right to point out that the BBC have failed to hold accountable those that have led, or advocated, for Brexit. If we are going to comment on the language used within this interview, then let's get the language we use in other areas correct too. It's not small boats, it's people. Children and vulnerable adults. Living breathing scared humanbeings.

Yes he was angry. And rightly so. I get sick of people like you saying that one must always be polite. That is the same as being ineffectual, which is what you are.

BBC radio should be a model of independence

Alex Phillips deserves everything she gets. With luck she’ll have a Tumbrel all to herself.

The interview has gained much more attention because of how he behaved. If he’s played it very smartly, he could have apologised, calmed down and asked politely for her to explain herself again.

_"Make brexit work"?_ Pull the other one. It's got bells on it.

I face worse at work im all behind Campbell he was 100% right and what he said about the BBC too

From my mainland European perspective he wasn't rude at all. Maybe somewhat patronising, but that was hard to avoid. In my opinion British journalists and politicians that oppose Brexit actually need to be far more direct with Brexiteers to be able to break their narrative. About those lorry driver wages and Brexit: is there any causality or is that just accidental correlation?

I have no issue with lorry drivers or anyone else getting higher wages, but this has led to higher prices for commodities that everyone else who hasn’t had a decent pay rise are having to pay the price for. So unless we all get decent wage rises, then the majority are suffering another effect of Brexit. There is not one good thing to come out of Brexit.

Sorry but we can't run a tap internationally. Our reputation virtually everywhere is burnt. I think most decisions the government has made in recent years have been negative regarding the economy. Even social legislation like policing language has a negative economic effect. Regarding interviews, especially in a hostile environment where the interviewer is giving you loaded questions and interrupting you on any arguments you make which support your case, I think it would be more constructive to look at the good examples. Two of the most impressive political interviews I've come across was when Chomsky was interviewed on Times Radio the other day, and any interview on the MSM with Victor Gao. They are absolute masters at it. They never dodge a question either. The other person who really impressed me in interview was on a scientific matter. I will give the award to Paul Nurse for best clarity of explaining complicated things. Lets not get so into syndicating the bad stuff and syndicate the good stuff.

The immigrants want come to the UK but it's Frances' problem

He was totally right to go at bbc to they never push back on the lies

I completely agree with Campbell on this, and the passionate/frustrated/exasperated delivery of his words.

I still think the rudeness of using a publicly salaried position and a publicly funded broadcasting platform to lie directly to the people of the country in a way that has seen many of them suffer really significant losses is and should always be rated as a greater rudeness than saying true things with a raised voice. You clearly do not agree. It is terrible to see that something as petty and transient as a question of manners can see you take the side of the quieter liar.

Constant brexit crap is enough to make you angry.

I don't always agree with Campbell - but He was correct that the arguments offered by Alex Phillips were distinctly lightweight. Especially over the Brexit notion - I believe that we are in difficult and different times. We do deserve to have the discussion on this subject and seriously so. Professor, we need to debate the situation more properly. We need to get the matter sorted out and maybe we can show that Brexit can - in some ways - work! Professor, I am of the view that going back into Europe is a non starting subject. Though I would wish that we could. I'm realistic enough to realise that as a fact. I'm more concerned of the current climate of politics in this land. If we could lead a international discussion on the question of migration then we might begin to resolve some of the difficulties in the British Isles as well! As you say, get a positive out of the negatives we have gone through. If we can do it. Then, there is a very good chance that the difficulties we have, can begin to be resolved and solved. I'm not too keen on going back into the discussion over Europe. That's navel watching again! And not beneficial at all.

I am not sure why you think hauliers being paid twice is great because someone will be bearing that cost, ultimately the consumer, but as long as some people can afford to go to the theatre, that's OK

I watched the exchange on newsnight. Campbell may be right, but he’s hardly in a position to lecture anyone on the truth. That’s the issue. At least he’s dropping truth bombs this time instead of bombs on innocent Iraq kids. That’s an improvement.

Yes he was angry and I don’t blame him. Alex Phillips is plain nasty, she left the leave campaign after being caught on the sofa with Nigel Farage by Farage’s wife (unknown what they were doing but his wife left him soon after), she then went to Wales briefly and was then employed by Steve Bannon for SCL/Cambridge Analytica on the Kenyan elections (whether this was Farage having a word with a mate I don’t know), a brief google with keywords of Cambridge Analytica and Kenya election will show exactly what kind of person she is. Kenya’s democracy was poisoned by these people and many including children died, she has blood on her hands 😡

Hang on arnt you a ukipper ?

No Tim. It’s about time we saw a little passion demonstrated. AC attacking the BBC was entirely appropriate.

Yes Campbell was cross and rude, but complaining about the the way he put the home truths is a standard way of not answering the actual points he made. So people are cross that he got cross; the point is he showed passion and is totally sick to death of the bias of the bbc, and the bbc letting a brexit person talk rubbish. Why is this lady from the reform party on TV and Newsnight. Reform do not have any MPs they have I think 6 Councilors out of 20,000. Reform are just a radical militant pressure group without a plan that have rich backers...

If you are amiable to and tolerant of liars they think they have won and people watching think they have won. It's hard to magine how one could be too rude to people who still aggressively defend brexit, even including judicious use of the odd obscenity.

Campbell was in effect mansplaining Alex Philips infuriating though she was. I also understand his anger at the BBC - I share it - but a public figure needs to keep his cool at all times. Im afraid Brexit cannot work in any meaningful way - the pay rises in haulage have distorted other labour markets eg public service vehicle drivers leaving their important jobs to drive supermarket supply trucks - but now is not the time to argue for rejoining. We need a bigger consensus among the public and the main political parties first.

Hello Professor, I would like to hear your ideas about how Brexit can make people better off? The Brexiteers only ever seem to claim that the Covid Vaccine was a benefit and we mustn't forget that Bankers bonuses are now deregulated. Wholesale energy prices are dropping but we're yet to see the benefit of that and interest rates continue to climb. Food inflation is astronomic and let's not forget that there are regular shortages in the supermarkets.

Campbell was rude! So what, she's a big strong girl, get over it!

I agree. The content of Campbell's argument was flawlwss, but he lost the room a bit by losing his cool.

I think he was annoyed with the bbc presenter

Why can't they just be friends? It isn't very nice.

Looking forward to the book review.

Problem with anything Campbell takes part in is it's hard to get past his ego. Should have kept his cool and made a better arguement but he just can't do it. As for earnings i've been a hgv driver with 30+yrs under my belt and my wagers nose dived due to driving hours being slashed. Could say EU laws arn't totally to blame privatising one of the most currupt agencies in the UK did'nt help ( Sorry abit off topic). Infact i'll be honest i lost over £800 a month.

Tim, we haven't left "Europe." We have left the EU.

Lets start again call a truce..!

Campbell well known for it

If you were more upset about the manner of speaking than the content of the conversation, I fear you have missed the point. Nicely nicely will only get you so far . Love the channel btw.

Just realized that Prof TW is ex-Ukip

I think you are right that Alastair Campbell did lose his cool, and was boorish, patronising and rude. I think you go too far to describe his behaviour as “abusive”, though it was Ill-mannered and above all, it detracted from the power of his arguments (which were on the whole, reasonable and correct) and sadly made Alex Philips sound reasonable when she was in fact talking the same nonsense we have heard from Brexiters for so many years. I do however have sympathy for Campbell, as I too feel a surge of anger, every time I hear Brexit supporters who, if they acknowledge at all that Brexit is not working, try to blag their way out of it by saying it hasn’t worked because it did not go far enough. I can relate to the frustration that Campbell feels that Brexit supporters are never held to give any real and practical evidence (as opposed to false and emotional ones) of ANY “Brexit gains”. I can relate also to the frustration that the Labour party does not have the courage to simply say that Brexit was and is a bad idea, and that news organisations and certainly the BBC failed in their duty to adequately challenge the spurious claims that were being made about what Brexit would deliver, both before and after the referendum. So, I think Campbell should (and probably will in due course) apologise for his discourteous and intemperate behaviour. I also think that Alex Philips should apologise for her part in helping to inflict the appalling damage to our country done by Brexit, but I am certain she will not. I think our country might stand a better chance of at least a partial recovery, when we can acknowledge that Brexit has been an unmitigated disaster, but that ( much to my regret) it cannot be simply reversed in the foreseeable future. However, we can by degrees re-aline ourselves with our European friends both politically and economically whenever the opportunity presents.

I agree that Campbell is an abrasive bastard, he always has been, and being abrasive is no way to win an argument even if the facts are clearly on his side. Moving forward, how to make Brexit work then? Now you appear to be a nice, reasonable sort of chap and you like to keep the debate polite, but I'm afraid Brexit is not going to work.,how could it? We have left the largest trading bloc in the World, and the present government is messing around trying to cobble together trade deals which in the main do not benefit the UK. We need to export to the EU. Transport costs are lower to export there. To do that we have to comply with their various regulatory standards, not only for the goods produced by us for export, but also they need to 'approve' of our working standards and practices. By approve I mean the EU does not allow 'sweat-shop' countries to export to them, and if our working time directives do not meet with their approval then exporting will be problematic. I work in the transport industry, although not the haulage side of it. I'm not certain it's true to say that wages have dramatically improved in the haulage sector. Don't be mislead by sound-bite possible earning figures-to make something like £60K a year (a touted figure) you would have to work in excess of 60 hours per week, sleep in the cab, use sub standard facilities where they exist at all, and have no life outside of work whatsoever. Yes specialists like tanker drivers can earn good money, but they always did-in a word it was danger money. General drivers do not earn anything like £60K, and they have to forget about working a 40 hour week. To export to the EU (or anywhere else come to that) we have to produce 'stuff' which meets the standards required-so much for the much touted sovereignty thing then. Having complied with the required standard, it would make sense to reach a customs agreement allowing free passage of goods. That might just be possible without agreeing to general free movement, but I wouldn't hold my breath. Self evidently, despite all the claims, the EU does not need us more than we need them. Unless and until HMG take that onboard we are going nowhere. An international conference on migration with the UK taking the moral lead? Oh please, which countries see the UK as an honest broker at the moment?

Haulage is probably getting compensation for the increased inefficiency - compensation rather than making more profit…?

Some people can give it but can't take criticism, I'd worked in customers homes from 16 to 65 a work colleague and myself we're asked to attend a day's training on arriv it's how to deal with customers with about 80yrs experience between us we arrived to meet a20 yr old with a degree never ever having worked in a customer's home , admin total lash up one apprentice already prev attended with 3 other engineers 5 never turned up not informed 3 of us free lunch and coffee some weeks later we found out by a senior manager we'd both been reported as ageist racist sexist etc etc which really amused him ,like this goverment totally unqualified and incapable for their pay grade

The people who employ lorry drivers might not think that having to pay them twice what they were previously getting was a Brexit benefit.

Professor if you views are correct Donald Trump will be elected as will Boris and you are a fool if you think Brexiteers will give you a fair debate. 😔 Sorry