so im autistic and im kind of done with people thinking that anything we say is useless -.-

I might be autistic, but at least I'm not a fascist

The most disgusting thing about this video is that the punchline of Sargon's "joke" is that we should take feminists as seriously as we tend to take autistic people. So basically, we shouldn't take them seriously at all. Like wow, covering misogyny AND ableism in one go, that's impressive. If only he could have squeezed racism in there too, then he could have had the alt-right hat trick.

I mean, girls with autism ARE a feminist issue. Doctors dont want to diagnose them correctly, because they exhibit autism differently, therefore making treatment impossible for them. The criteria of autism diagnosis are mostly based off boys, for example the repeated actions mentioned in the video. A girl can show many other simptoms, but just because she doesn't do the repeated motions, shes not diagnosed and in turn, denied treatment. This IS a feminist issue and i dont understand whats so funny about that.

Also, he actually sounded a bit scary in the Elliot Rodger bit. Not in the intimidating impressive way, just in a "this is a misogynistic pathetic excuse for a human being and if he gets THIS spitting-into-a-microphone furious about someone condemning a mass shooter, i feel like hes really capable of doing something reckless stupid and violent"

It's amazing how he disparages feminists for supposedly only being able to think in black and white terms and blaming everything on patriarchy and yet he sees no issue with blaming a massacre on a 'feminist system' or social justice.

A terrible nitpick, but is someone gonna tell Carl that his intro depicts an Egyptian pylon and Egyptian obelisks, not anything from Akkad?

The way he says “might be autistic“ reminds me of red scare propaganda tbh “He MIGHT be a communist!“...

Dear God, his defense of Elliot Roger is one of the most insane things I've ever heard in my entire life.

Didn't know whether to laugh or cry at Sargon expressing Rodger apologism. In Sargon's mind, shooting everyone was his 'last resort'. Last resort for what? Not getting laid? As if getting laid is just something everyone is entitled to simply for existing!

There's something really fucking creepy about basically picking random peoples pictures and using them for misogynist and hateful crap. I can't help thinking this should be more heavily criticised.

It seems absolutely absurd to me that Sargon would position himself as a centrist.

I'm both a Feminist and Autistic, so I (naturally) found this video of Sargon's particularly infuriating. I'm not an insult to throw around, specially not at the movement that defends my rights; and you know what? Underdiagnose of Autistic girls *IS* a feminist issue; girls often get overlooked because gender roles, and the fact that girls are suffering for not receiving the help they need should concern all feminists

I was in high school in the 90's, and this reminds me of how back then, people and things you didn't like were often called "gay". Like being gay was some kind of terrible end state, like the dark twist ending to a horror movie. You're gay now, and nothing you say or think is valid. Your life is meaningless. Some of us grow up though, and don't say things like that anymore. Some of us, I guess, don't. I mean, there are feminists out there who are also autistic. It's completely irrelevant, and doesn't invalidate their position. I guess what I'm saying is that Carl doesn't present as being particularly thoughtful or empathetic, but I suppose that's obvious.

Also, women tend to live in "hidden circumstances" regarding homelessness. They aren't found on the street as often as men because they tend to get into abusive/exploitative relationships to keep themselves sheltered. In most countries homeless women would rather live in a relationship that offers them a roof over the head in return for sexual exploitation than live on the streets which is even more dangerous than it's alternative. The dark-number of homeless women in dependent relationships is nearly impossible to guess or calcuate.

As an autistic person, I've never understood the lack of empathy thing. I'm incredibly empathetic, more so than many Nuerotypicals at any rate; I just struggle to express it in ways other people can understand.

I like how Sargon ignores the history of men abusing women and pretends it mainly started happening after feminists provoked them into it. Yet he also claims feminists are narcissistic shells of people who have no control of their emotions instead of saying men like Elliot Rodger should control their emotions (Rodger's mass shooting definitely wasn't the act of someone victimized who acted in a "last resort"-he seemed to barely attempt basic things he should have to help himself, like go to therapy).

What's... What's so bad about autism?? WHAT'S SO BAD ABOUT CONSENT??????

As an autistic woman who wasn't diagnosed until I was 18 because my symptoms flew under the radar, Sargon's video aggravated me on multiple levels. It's ableist AND misogynistic. I know this video is several years old, but thank you for this video Shaun.

I hate listening to Sargon because his voice makes me reflexively roll my eyes so hard they hurt.

What i'm confused about is the reference to Autism Speaks. Many autistic people(myself included) hate Autism Speaks due to its misrepresentation of the diagnosis. And I don't know if Carl knows that because he provides a link to it in the description. But when it is brought up in the video it sounds like he chuckles.

This video is almost 5 sargons long... do you think we ALL have the time watch it?

I'm autistic and I would like to say that we do have empathy. We just have a hard time acting on it. But great video though.

Sargon: “If you’re a feminist like me...” Me: “oh boy, here we go, let me get out the stamp for my Straw Feminist bingo card” Sargon: “...You’re probably aware that we live in a patriarchy.” Me: mhm Sargon: “A patriarchy is a highly oppressive social system that benefits men at the expense of women.” Me: ok, you read the dictionary, good, good... Sargon: “And this social system oppresses men as well.” Me: ...oh! So you get it! Well shit, that’s a surprisingly “woke” statement, coming from you. So what’s next, Carl? Are you gonna talk about how men are wrongfully encouraged to see physical strength and violence as the best means of expressing masculinity? Or maybe you could talk about how encouraging the repression of emotions hampers men from forming genuine human bonds. OR, and I know this is a lot to ask from someone like you, but MAYBE you could even go so far as to discuss the absurdity of gendering things like asking for help or taking care of-“ Sargon: “...by paying more for women’s healthcare.” Me: 😐😑😐 Me: “god fucking damn it Carl, ya ALMOST MADE IT. You were 20 feet from the finish line, and you tripped over your own dick and fell flat on your silly, silly face. You were SO CLOSE, Carl. WE COULD’VE HAD IT ALL, CARL!”

I've never seen that defense of Elliot Roger before. That, was terrifying. That was horrific. It was literally analogous to someone defending suicidal slave owners who feel lost now that slaves are free saying it was the civil rights movement that hurt the southern white man and caused him to spiral.

Stawman of Akkad

I like how sargon is basically saying that autistic people aren't allowed to share there opinions on social issue's because they have autism

If he's right, then he's saying feminism advocates for a more autistic friendly society. It's a win-win!

"If you can't tell when a consensual sexual encounter is being initiated"? Um. What, even? If she "can't tell it's consensual", it's not. Q.E.D.

i am autistic as well as a feminist (like i can do some things but other things are hard like going out of the house or concentrating for long periods of time or socializing well, especially with people my age and with men) and i feel like. my feminism is because im autsitic? like im super concerned with social justice because i've personally been treated poorly as an autistic person, i mean

I am deeply concerned that Sargon might actually believe he is funny.

"And 100% of them have a tumbler account" So were just going to act like 4chan isnt a thing?

"...and worst of all, posting clips from Family Guy." :D I like you.

how do the angry man's viewers know when he has stopped being sarcastic and when he has started again are there annotations

The main reason women live longer than men is because they are less likely to die from accidents or violence, if you control for that men actually live longer, tending to be healthier. Regarding suicide, women actually attempt suicide more than men, it's just that men are more likely to succeed. One of the main reasons for this is that men tend to have more access to guns then women do. I'm heavily involved with autistic feminism, and pretty much everyone in the community agrees with the article that women are underdiagnosed due to differences not being picked up, Sargon doesn't know WTF he is talking about. The need for increased diagnosis of autism in women also isn't just a feminist issue, it's the current scientific consensus. Finally, that list of 8 autistic traits kinda sucks.

I've actually watched the Elliot Rodger video to see if Sargon was misunderstood or taken out of context. However, I was pretty horrified after watching that video. Any respect I had for Sargon, as an honest political actor, is officially lost after watching that video.

Worth noting that that list of ''signs'' is kind of wishy washy as it goes. I have autism and to me it looks like autism articulated from the viewpoint of neurotypicals, who tend to be pretty judgemental of our behavior since they're constantly searching for cues or signs of our condition. Like issues responding to criticism is pretty universal among all demographics. A lot of people have that problem. But when we have it people tend to notice because they're looking for flaws. Like I'm just saying, a lot of what people call psychology, even within the medical field, feels like prejudiced behavior to me. Chances are, if an autistic person gets annoyed with your criticism of them, then it's because you didn't listen to them or understood what they tried to convey, as you're now attacking a strawman that you perceive them as. It's happened to me a lot and people think I make the opposite of claims I actually make, and it genuinely makes me want to kick them in the shins.

It couldn't be a joke. It was too angry and mean to be anything but his honest thoughts. That kind of angry deflection unnerves me.

Sargon’s “sarcasm” is so terrible I legitimately couldn’t tell if that rimshot at 18:24 was in the original video or if Shaun added it in.

Yo, so I'm autistic and I got a couple things to add. I don't think we should just be completely discredited just because our brains run a different operating system to the NT brain. "Lack of empathy" - no, while this can be a part of being autistic it's more a different level of empathy, for example I sometimes get sad when I think two things on a shelf are too far apart and think they might get lonely, so I move them closer. Is this a bit silly? Sure, I know, but we're not all empathyless terminators.

My goodness, I myself actually am an autistic person, and how he compares an ideology to an metal health condition is just insulting

Fun fact: I'm autistic and I've been coerced into saying yes to sex. It turns out that whole "misses social cues and need explicit consent for sex" argument really falls apart when you're worried about all the guilt trips, ultimatums, and whether your partner will hurt themselves or others if you don't do what they say. Kinda sad when your stereotype is more empathetic than the man making fun of it.

as an actual autistic person, i really hate it that people use autism as an insult.

as an autistic feminist scientist, I am just so???? baffled????? by sargon's vid. thank you for serving as a buffer for me so I don't have to tear apart the fantastically swiss-cheese arguments myself, let alone the enormous, glaring problems with the criteria themselves. (lack of empathy? bulldogging? really?)

The only problem with Shaun's videos is when I watch them in public, people might think I'm watching Sargon and it's embarassing. I love your videos, though, Shaun.

Him blaming Eliot Rodger's actions on feminism shows how divorced from reality he is.

I've learned more about the "social justice warrior" position watching people like Shaun than I ever did watching people like Sargon, Ben Shapiro, etc. I'm glad I decided to actually look into it.

"these women are complaining about an issue, these complaint's can't possibly be real and substantial, there has to be something wrong with their brains"

Why is the internet having a mad cyberboner about autism?

As someone who is both Autistic and considers myself feminist (and leftist for that matter), therefore being a manifestation of everything Sargon hates (I just need to be a girl and he'd totally despise me :V), I'll give my two cents. The whole diagnosis thing where men are more diagnosed than women is actually a real issue, and as sort of mentioned in the video in spades it comes from simply how we perceive Autistic traits in different genders. Things seem to be more subtle and people are less prone to noticing them in girls, so they're often just dismissed as shy, awkward and the like. Granted I'm not too familiar with analysis on Autism and gender, but I do know there's a lot of sexist bullshit floating around that makes people think Autism only exists in white boys (oh yes, I should also mention underdiagnosis is also a thing with people of colour, so there's racism there too). Something I should also touch upon (and this is where I start to get more critical of the attitudes in the video) is that the way neurotypicals describe Autism is often really problematic, and unfortunately here is no exception. The fact that we live in an ableist world means disability is pathologised, and you'll typically find that the opinions on disability from disabled people (and from my experience, Autistic people) differ a LOT from what is discussed practically everywhere else. Like, you'll find that we Autistic peeps don't see ourselves as "struggling with" our disability as you quickly said in the video, but the world around us. You'll find most of us are opposed to "treatment" and "cure," since most therapies and stuff don't involve actually helping us, but trying to make us non-Autistic. You can't suppress someone's neurology, and more importantly you shouldn't. The reason Autistic people struggle as we do with things like communication is because society is run by neurotypicals, not because we're degenerates in the gene pool or whatever the hell people say about us these days. You'll find this sentiment among disabled people in general, in that even in conditions where people actually DO want to be cured (eg I've seen people say they would like to not have epilepsy), treatment shouldn't be the focus. Dismantling ableism should be. There's a reason you hear about things like accessibility, they're one step in the process of trying to remove systemic barriers for disabled people. Oh also, functioning labels are bullshit - "high functioning" and "low functioning" are poor ways to judge what an Autistic person needs, all they describe is how neurotypical someone looks, and as said before, aiming for neurotypicality is a terrible idea. Anyway, on the topic of Sargon... yeah, he's full of bullshit. The way he described Autistic traits was either completely wrong or deliberately worded to spin them in favour of his arguments. Autistic being used as an insult is comparable to people trying to use things like "gay" or even "girl" (eg you play like a girl) as an insult. Ableist slurs are garbage, but people using ones that are being reclaimed by their respective communities like Autistic is extra frustrating in my eyes (it pisses me off about as much as the R slur). Oh, also on that comment from that one dude claiming feminists don't speak for him, it kind of reminds me of this weird thing I've been seeing? Like, some people try to make it seem like feminists hate Autistic people or something (and granted some probably do in some way, ableism is unfortunately everywhere), to the point where they have to be opposed. These arguments rely back on this sexist assumption that Autism is almost always in men, even though of course that's bogus. Like, I often see Autistic people being used by antifems to try and go "see! look at the poor autistic men who just don't get it!" to try and discredit feminism, as well as say things like that rejecting an Autistic male partner is horrible, except, well... no. Ableism exists, but so does sexism. I'm an Autistic man and am just as capable of being sexist as a neurotypical man. Some situations are complex yes, but the attitude I see in these antifems treats Autistic people like we have no agency or are incapable of understanding anything. There's a saying among disabled activists to "presume competence," and that applies here. Assume we understand things, and don't infantilise us and treat us like we're brainless props to prove a point. Oh yeah, and also... AUTISTIC GIRLS AND WOMEN EXIST (and nonbinary, for that matter). All of this posturing as supposed friend of Autistic people flies out of the window when you bring Autistic women into the picture, because they always get the short end of the stick in this situation. I mean, Sargon proves how little these types of people would even give a damn. Okay, that was one serious tangent. IDK if I'm even making sense, but I guess to summarise I want to say that even if Sargon is certainly full of shit like he always is (I couldn't even listen to him talking about Autistic people without getting angry lol), the conversation on ableism and its relation to Autistic people goes far deeper than many people realise. The alt-right and co might love to use my neurotype and disability as an insult, but ableist attitudes towards Autism exist across the entire political spectrum.

Further rebuttals to Sargon's attacks here. 1: Funnily enough we're actually incredibly critical people. So much so that a large majority of us tend to side with beliefs that are somewhat critical of the norm. Why? Well because we tend to be isolated from what "norms" society places upon us, so _by default_ that places a huge chunk of us in fields where we're going to be critical of society. We know how society works, it just doesn't work for us. We tend to be critical against the structures which oppress us, and well... Funnily enough, that triggers patriarchs to the point where they classify those who are critical and have a self-reflective mindset as "Autistic" apparently. Congratulations though, you've just made a marginalised class. Prepare for war. :) 2: So what, you're mad because we like people to stick to rules? odd. How come the Right espouses one rule and does something else. How come it sucks up to people who don't work hard and capitalise off of the labor of others whilst telling people that the key to success is to "Git gud"... When in reality the barriers to entry are so fucking high that neither you, or I for that matter can ever possibly achieve the outcome of sweeping change in this system without deep-throating massive corporate cocks. I mean fuck, despite the fact they espouse working hard and "delivering the truth for views" the bulk of the right wing side of youtube are funded by the Kochs. 3: Weird. I find that that distress is a sign of society at large not being entirely right. What's hilarious is when NTs tell me that the way I think doesn't gel well with them. Of course it doesn't, dipshit. You fuckers set the rules and then break them all the fucking time. A person who likes rules is going to be distressed when the system is constantly being changed. Imagine playing a game of _Dungeons and Dragons_ where the DM is constantly changing the rules to favour a player who constantly happens to be his best friend. No matter how hard you work and how levelled up your Bard is, your basic warrior mate is going to beat the shit out of you and get all the loot because the DM's skewed the rules to suit the warrior who just so happens to be his best mate. Wow I just explained Neoliberalism through DnD... Fuck i'm a massive Nerd. 4: Is being an expert on a topic a bad thing, Sargon? Do you think that specialisation is bad? Weird. You're a person who prescribes to the IMF's ideal that societies should just "Remain in their place and keep conservative structures alive", therefore you believe in specialisation. See what I mean when Right-wingers love to set the rules but never stick to them? That's because if they wrote out exactly what they thought would be the reality to their beliefs, you'd be exposed for being fascists. Neoliberalism is pretty much just fascism with extra steps. 5: See four. 6: "Socially challenged" is quite literally another word for "Unlikeable". We have the notion in this society that we have to be "Agreeable" and "Conformant" in order to get along. In all honesty I find this to be fucked to the core. Fuck what you think of autistics. I'm one of them, and I only speak of my own experience. I let others speak of their experiences. that's the only objective truth from the Autistic perspective, yet smoothbrains like Sargon seem to think that the fact that we tend to fixate and prefer to specialise is a stupid thing. Here's a thought, Maybe you're autistic too. I mean if being a stupid cunt is a specialty Sargon, then fuck me you're the undisputed authority on it. Welcome to the Autism club. Here's your complimentary chewigem. It's in the shape of a dick. What, don't like dicks? What about one in the shape of a Kebab? Don't like Kebabs? Well you mustn't be white then. After all, who enjoys kebabs more than drunken EDL members at four AM on a monday night? Nothing like stumbling out of a Weatherspoon's with your racist mates after a night of chugging Stellas and Heinekens only to enjoy a perfectly halal Kebab. 7: Nuance? Bah. Who's got time for that right? I mean when art in and of itself _has_ to be nuanced to convince you of differing opinions, who needs direct oppressive control. Wait, wasn't it Zizek who said himself that "Political correctness is a new form of totalitarianism?" What he means by that is that the idea of brutal authority is super easy to rebel against. If art slapped you in the face you'd pay no attention to is. Humans have to come to their beliefs through self-discovery, and the way you do that in art is by using subtlety, jokes, and nuance to drive the point home. This is why Satire is sanitised in the media, but more importantly satire which attacks the power structure itself. I mean, misogynistic satire is widely available. Why? Well, purely because society encourages it. But anything that dares strip the emperor of his clothes will _never_ make it to MSM. The gods won't allow that, no no no! Claiming that Autistics dare not know the tools of nuance is completely contradictory to the idea that we're not allowed to be experts, apparently. Autistics make brilliant creatives purely because we understand the _rules_ of nuance. 8: Studies have shown that statistically speaking, Autistics are more likely to go out of their way to assist a stranger in need, to help others and to be kind to other people. Why? Well imagine if you will, and I know that's hard for you Sargon, being an "Oppressed Straight White Male (tm)" and all, but Imagine that every aspect of the world isn't geared around you. Imagine if you will, waking up, going to work when you've got a hangover. You're tripping over yourself, ambulances whizzing past your car make you shaky and scared, and also the sirens pound on your mind like a fucking jackhammer. Not even coffee's going to wake you up. You get to work already burnt out. Your boss pushes unrealistic sales demands upon you that you know you have to hit but the reality is, you'll never hit them because Lying isn't possible for you. Congrats, you've just got a paycut for not being a shitcunt to customers. This is the NT world. A world where you're told to tell the truth but in reality, no truth is being told to you. You're in this constant state of a hangover. You're tired, you see someone who's having it worse than you, and you decide to go out of their way to help to even get a semblance of somewhat being truthful to the reality of the world that you were taught and propagandised about. You get mocked for assisting that homeless man, "oh, he's just gonna buy drugs with that money" they say. They mock you for your excessive empathy, so you're confused as to how you're meant to express it. So, you live in a world of Narcissistic double-blinds. Help, but don't help those people. Help those other people. That's it. Help those people by paying money to a charity instead of directly assisting. Let Neoliberalism help. Never mind that our CEO makes 3 million dollars a year, just give us money and we _might_ get that man to a Methadone clinic. This is the problem, Sargon. We Autistics are people who comply with rules so much that we end up annoying those who want to change them to suit their own benefits, even when those rules are conflicting. We're given this label because we are bastions of truth and reality, of empathy and kindness. We get marginalised and punished for that. it scares me that you're at least not attempting to conserve positive values, but rather espousing a narrative of racist dogma, entangled in a world of unjust unfairness for the sake of propping up kings and tyrants who want nothing more than to have us fighting each other over the scraps of cheese they whittle off the block. There's a reason _why_ so many autistics become socialists... Because we see that system as the closest thing to a fair system in existence. It's why we become feminists, because Feminism is a movement entirely based on empathy and compassion.

Sometimes it feels like the most common argument against feminism is "I blatantly don't know what feminism is" -.-

I like how rational he sounded when he nearly blew a blood vessel in his brain yelling things that made no sense to his computer screen with a picture of Lacy Green on it. That was priceless.

I think there is a valid criticism of several layman feminists who use stereotypes of people with autism/asperger's to describe their opponents which really doesn't set well with me (it's a horrible blind spot for social justice advocates) However comparing feminism and autism is just plain wrong, I would say Sargon should be ashamed of himself but the man is like a corrupt preacher, he'll say anything that'll appease his audience.

"The feminist movement has autism" reminds me of those "(person you hate) compared to Hitler" memes I saw floating around. Yes Johnny, you found eight things that that these two had in common when stripped of all context, you're fucking brilliant Johnny!!!!

I can't believe this dude was the head of a political party holy shit

How can someone do this much sarcasm, with no tonal shift to indicate, without completely confusing his audience?

Boy, am I glad channels like this were around to deradicalize me, an autistic person. I'd hate to end up like my autistic father, desperately scrambling to be with people who hate me just to spite the liberals.

As a woman with autism I'm just a but upset people view it as an insult or a damnation meaning your opinion mean nothing and you can't reason logically. It's not a death sentence and I have a good life. But then also I don't live in America where I need to know trump is my leader.

I am sick of being used as a damn insult. Not even being insulted, but being the fucking insult!!!

Sorry, I know this is a tiny point, but in Sargon's: Poor Eliot Rodger Having to Live in a World where Feminists Exist Therefore Simply Having No Choice But to Murder a Bunch of People rant, did he not say, "... feminine bullshit"? 23:53 Did he really just out himself as a misogynist there? He might have just had a slip of the tongue and meant feminist, but it could have been a subconscious slip up, you know? I'm going to assume so, since I know how much it irritates anti-fems if you don't view everything anyone says as absolutely literal (like how when Queen Anita said that everything's sexist during a joke, therefore meaning that even, say, kangaroo irises are sexist due to them being a subset of everything), and I really wouldn't want to piss them off. So yeah, by anti-fem standards, I guess that sargon's a self-confessed misogynist.

Bruh I'm autistic and I sure can't tell when someone's being sarcastic but I can definitely tell when someone is a horrible human being and let me tell you that's what I'm getting

Videos like these from Sargon were such a treasure when he ran for public office. All of his misdeeds suddenly came back to haunt him in public. Beautiful, if one considers all the people he harassed and humiliated with his audience and reach. Now his future outside the internet is severely limited, and his online presence only a shadow of what used to be.

Just imagine at the very end, Sargon is alone in his sad little room, yelling into a microphone because he riled himself up about an issue that only exists in his own stupid brain..

Unfortunately this video is 20 minutes longer than Sargon's attention span.

The irony in him reading out shit like "IF YOU HAVE RIGID THINKING" w/o the slightest bit of self reflection dawning on him... was amazing

There was a point in my life that I'm not super proud of where I used to consume content from Sargon, Thunderf00t, Paul Joseph Watson, Lauren Southern, and others like them. I think the point where I started seeing the light was when Sargon was yelling about Elliot Rodger. I started to notice how angry he was and I started to ask myself whether the point of all this sort of content was to inform people, or just to make people angry. I'm less angry now. Glad I was able to get off the anti-feminist boat before I went way off the deep end into stuff like Stephan Molyneux (who, incidentally, also made a whole video defending Elliot Rodger). Weird how our world views can change over time. Five years ago, I thought feminism was going to lead to the complete collapse of society. Nowadays, I would describe myself as a feminist. I think feminists are cool. I like hearing what feminists have to say.

“My response to that is: No it’s not.” Perfect ending 👌🏻

Even if all feminists where autistic... does someone being autistic mean they cannot have valid concerns that can be addressed?

A few years ago, Autistics were all over youtube, talking about their condition, educating people, having conversations with each other, sharing information about the condition and comparing notes. It looked like people were really getting smarter about the true nature of autisms in it's many diverse forms. And now? Idiots are just using the word to insult everybody they don't like. Man have we slipped backward. Anyway, we know that Sargon isn't autistic. He isn't smart enough.

I think what he's confusing here - deliberately or otherwise. Is the notion that men and women have different brains. We don't have different brains by virtue of our gender, a doctor could not tell the difference between our brain structures. But women and men are socialised to be better at different things, therefore our brain development shifts to accommodate. There are multiple studies that show female students that do well in science/maths early on, slowly get worse and worse as their education progresses until many ultimately drop out. Because women are called on less in science and maths than men and there's a lot of visible and invisible sexism going on that makes the environment hard to learn in. So we do have different strengths, but it's not because of our sex or gender, it's because of the expectations placed upon us. So feminism is about addressing these imbalances. The argument is 'women are not always worse at science/maths and men are not always good at them. We have equal potential because there is nothing fundamentally different about our brains.' It's a bit complicated if you only read the first sentence of an article. It's also a well known issue that medical fields use men as the default example, neglecting how women often present different symptoms for the same illness. eg. Cardiac arrest. When we think of heart attack symptoms we think fainting, fatigue, chest pain, shortness of breath. But women can present differently, in place of or in addition to the above symptoms: Pain in one or both arms, back, neck, jaw or stomach. Women are also more likely to experience nausea, dizziness and vomiting than men. Source: www.heart.org/HEARTORG/Conditions/HeartAttack/WarningSignsofaHeartAttack/Heart-Attack-Symptoms-in-Women_UCM_436448_Article.jsp#.WojdDRNuaRs Autism is the same. Because the majority of autism studies use men and boys as subjects, there is less known about female symptoms. The big symptoms of autism are based on male studies, meaning women and girls often get diagnosed much later in life. And then there's the fact that female pain is often dismissed or minimised, taken less seriously than male pain despite women having more pain receptors and therefore feeling pain more acutely. abcnews.go.com/Technology/story?id=97662&page=1 www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2015/10/emergency-room-wait-times-sexism/410515/ I've experienced an ovarian cyst by the way, like the woman in the atlantic article. Having your guts literally twist on themselves due to the weight of the cyst contorting your fallopian tube is exactly as excruciating as it sounds. Thankfully I had already had a scan so they knew the cause of my pain right away and I was put on morphine. I didn't get surgery within eight hours, but that was because a helicopter had flown in a bunch of trauma victims, bumping me further down the line. A life versus an ovary, easy choice. I'm also in Australia so we have a far better system of triage, though I'm sure people slip through the cracks But crucially, I was given morphine - I didn't suffer for hours. Maybe 30 minutes before pain meds came, I don't remember and my estimation of time is blurry. It felt like an hour or more. All this because my GP knew that ovarian cysts were a risk in women. Actually the male doctor I first saw had no idea, he tested for appendicitis and when he found nothing he shrugged. My GP was female (and a better doctor overall.) And even at the hospital there was an attending gynecologist, they brought in the one I'd spoken to beforehand even, called her from her clinic. The scans were hard to read, they had no idea how big it was. (10cm diameter. Grown inside my ovary so much the ovary had swollen to about double in size.) Apparently many US hospitals have no attending OB-GYN. That should speak to medical priorities. Female health isn't as important, it's just sex stuff, they don't need that ect. Still they actually attended me, spoke to me, kept asking me how bad the pain was out of ten. 9 I said, when it was at the worst, considering a ten to be when I pass out. 7 at the best. They gently kneaded my tummy, monitored me. They were reassuring and I felt safe and listened to, clinging to my mothers hand and writhing, curling into the wall and sobbing. But they believed me. I was 17. Women's pain is often dismissed as period pain, or nothing to worry about ect. It's assumed we're weaker, so we'll make more of a fuss. Nevermind we literally feel more pain than men, or that reproductive health is taken far less seriously than it ought to be. Rachel in the article lost her ovary. They saved mine. (At least initially - it later had to be taken out because there were malignant cells in the cyst and they had no way of checking if it had spread without removing the ovary. But the ovary was healthy, it had not been killed through lack of oxygen.) Living without an ovary isn't a big deal, menopause just happens a year earlier. But because of the lack of treatment, they had to cut out a part that could have been saved. Because of medical neglect. If I had lost mine it would have been because of the triage system, people needed to be saved before my ovary. There's a difference. Read the whole article. It's pretty horrific. How can anyone read that, know it's not an isolated incident, and still say there's no problem?

Hi, I'm a feminist and also a woman with autism. I struggled for years to get a diagnosis and the help I needed to hold down a job because the only clinic that officially diagnosed autism is 3 hours from where I live, has waiting periods of multiple years and the only doctor that would see me made me drive all the way out there, knowing my gender, just so he could say I couldn't possibly be autistic because women can't be. Autism absolutely needs to be looked at through the lens of gendered socialisation, for all genders. Who else is gonna do it if not the feminists? Thx 4 coming 2 my Ted talk

I have absolutely no clue why these people are using “Autistic” as an insult. I have high-functioning autism, and it has actually given me advantages as a working musician and artist. One of the most common symptoms of autism is hyper-focusing, and that’s a great skill to have in the workplace.

1:05 hey sargon if a woman doesn't understand when a consensual sexual encounter is iniciatied then it's not consensual.

Headline: Women live longer than men on average Men: This is obviously sexism Also men: Is it gay to wipe my ass

"my response to that is: no it's not" is probably the best ending to a video ever, i laughed far too hard at that thanks for that shaun

You could do these takedowns for every single one of Sargon's videos - but I don't think anyone has such god-like patience

Looks like the Sargon bandwagon couldn't harm the dislike bar this time.

I always mishear the name and think it's "Sargon of a cat" which is a wierd but kinda fun name tbh

Anyone notice that those are all autistic stereotypes he's using and no actually diagnosing material? When I was diagnosed with Autism the main signs in my case was speech development, delays, taking metaphors literally or just not understanding them properly, my ultra sensitive ears which caused me a lot of pain. I did have meltdowns as a kid but that can be a ton of different things from bipolar to psychosis to extreme anxiety(Panic attacks) so it wasn't exactly the main qualifier for autism. And who tf is Sauron calling unempathetic! That was disproven before Sauron was born in the 60's. Actually, data now shows that a lot of us are MORE empathetic than most people towards animals and are more likely to have a close connection with them. The reason we don't always act the same towards humans is that many of them treat us poorly and we're seen as unempathetic when say our peers who bullied us are getting their just desserts. And honestly, would you feel bad if someone who tried to make you feel like dirt fell down and scraped their knee? How many of you would be empathetic towards Sauron is he got a family member diagnosed with a disability after seeing this video? Towards the kid for having such a shitty relative definitely. For Sauron now realizing what its like to have a family member who is treated like dirt and there is truly nothing, the kid can do to stop it? Or if one of the kids bullying his relative did it because they watch alt right wing KZfaq and disabled people must be kept down so the majority can survive? Jesus Christ dude if those were the categories for autism I'm pretty sure it would be alt-righters and Anti SJW that ended up branded with it

This was a very insightful video. Sadly, the one person who needs to see it the most, won't. It _is_ over 5 minutes long, after all. BTW: I love your movie AND your commentary stuff. I really hope you'll be providing us all with great #content for a long time :D And since you mentioned that this is you're hobby, I'll be doing you a favor and give you some inspiration for future material - some really great, *extremely* rational youtubers to check out: Kraut and Tea, Bearing, Undoomed, teal dear, and an _especially_ pleasant human being by the name of Black Pigeon Speaks. Have fun! :)

That list of autism symptoms really, really pisses me off - as a person who is likely autistic themselves. What it does is present a bunch of behaviours that are often associated with autistic people without ANY context as to why these behaviours are happening and what is actually going on inside the person. Due to this lack of context, these characteristics are portrayed in an unnecessarily negative manner. Thus, I'll go over the different points of the list and give some context and also go into what this list does not go into. 1. Extreme sensitivity to criticism / 2. Rigid (Things are right or they are wrong) / 7. Little to no understanding about nuance and layers of meanings: I summed up all these because they all refer to black and white thinking. Yes, sensitivity to criticism as well. The reason being is not that autistic people would have some inability to comprehend any wrongdoing of their own, which is the allistic (=non-autistic) explanation for this that the reader is lead to due to the lack of context. The actual reason is that us autistic people tend to think in a less nuanced way, for example, someone telling us that something we did was wrong comes off to us as that person telling us we're completely shit, so the sensitivity is appropriate for this completely negative scenario that our head has turned the little bit of criticism into. My (non-scientific) hypothesis for why there is this lack of nuance is that autistic people don't naturally understand the social stuff of allistic people all that well, so in learning it, it is necessary to first divide into the rough categories of good and bad. Thus, if your only categories for how a person thinks of you are good and bad, it is natural to sort it into the "bad" category if a person criticises you. 3. Easily distressed if things aren't "right". Meltdowns - loss of control - often happen: Firstly, the description of meltdowns as a loss of control is incomplete at best. Here, it is important to distinguish between a meltdown as it is typically understood and an autistic person's meltdown. With an autistic person, ameltdown is usually preceded by sensory overload. The sensory issues autistic people experience are completely overlooked in the article and it's really not good. Basically, our brains can't filter stuff as well as the brains of allistic people, so noises are a lot louder, lights are brighter and so on. This means that we can easily have an overload where it is all too much. In that case, it is important to be able to go somewhere quiet and dark and comfortable. If that doesn't happen, a meltdown or shutdown can occur. Thus, the cause of a meltdown is not actually things not going "right", it is sensory overload. What can amplify a meltdown is not being able to do certain things. Autistic people often have rituals of how we do stuff and not being able to do them really bothers us and in a meltdown, that's not something we can just try to shut up about. 4. Endless talking about or "bulldogging" a subject-usually in a monotone / 5. Often highly intelligent, but focused on a narrow field that can become an obsession: in the autism community, these subjects we obsess about are called special interests. We just get a lot more into stuff than allistic people and it's really comforting to do stuff with your special interests and we also like talking about them. Because we don't naturally talk in a non-monotonous way, we often talk monotonously when we're really into stuff and don't think about masking (more on that under 2) in the fourth paragraph). I don't think really getting into things is as bad as the phrasing in this list implies. 6. Socially challenged (inability to "read" facial expressions and body language): Yes, we do struggle with interpreting the non-verbal communication of allistic people. But that does not mean we are inherently "socially challenged". It's like saying someone inherently has problems communicating verbally when that person just speaks a different language. Allistic people don't understand our communication all that well and we don't understand their communication all that well, so communicating with allistic people can be difficult, but we can learn their "language" and we don't have problems communicating with people who speak our "language". Thus, I find it wrong to say we are inherently socially challenged. 8. Lack of empathy: just no. This is a really harmful stereotype and I'd go so far as to say we experience more empathy than allistic people. I think the reason why this misconseption exists is that often, we don't pick up the cues that something is going on, so we naturally can't be empathic to it, and because we experience a lot of empathy, it can sometimes be too much and we just kinda freeze and it looks as if we had no empathy. Now onto the stuff the list leaves out (this is in no way comprehensive, I just try to list the most prevalent ones): 1) as I already said, sensory issues. Although I have only mentioned the hypersensitivity side of things so far, there is also hyposensitivity, so we are not as sensitive to stuff. Hyposensitivity is also often expressed in seeking out certain sensory experiences. 2) repetitive behaviours. This includes stimming (self-stimulatory behaviour, e.g. hand flapping, but also much more) and "rituals". What I mean by rituals is that we like to do things a certain way, for example put on our clothes in a certain order. These repetitive behaviours help ground us and distract us from unpleasant sensory experiences and stuff. 3) executive dysfunction. This means that the brain sucks at self-management, which basically feels like really low willpower, so you can't get yourself to do stuff, focus on something and so on. Now onto a more or less little sidenote regarding functioning labels (low-functioning, high-functioning): the autism community is generally not a fan. There are two main reasons for this: 1) the autism spectrum is not a line that goes from high-functioning to low-functioning. It's more like many lines for the different aspects such as communication, sensory issues and so on and the former idea of the autism spectrum really just creates a bunch of false assumptions. 2) functioning labels do not actually reflect how well someone is functioning in day-to-day life. They just represent a person's ability to mask (appear less "autistic"). A "high-functioning" autistic person may need a lot of support, but that label suggests they don't, so it's harmful. Two little footnotes: 1) with the nature of the autism spectrum, no two austic persons' experiences are the same and I do not speak for all autistic people. However, I did try for this to reflect the experiences of most of us. 2) autism shares a lot of symptoms with ADHD, so in some bits where I talk about allistic people, I mean allistic people without ADHD. Why did I not just say neurotypical? Neurodivergent as a label is generally thought to include people with ADHD, autism, OCD, dyslexia and a few other diagnoses. However, only people with ADHD and/or autism share those experiences.

He called a mass shooter a "poor guy". That gets the biggest yikes.

Is it just me, or does the check list of "autism symptoms" Sargon uses perfectly match every right wing, anti feminist, anti science, religious fundamentalist, and conservative ideology in existence?

I'm autistic and I sure as fuck wasn't always feminist. In fact I have had to get over a lot of issues with my mother who basically raised me on her own, bless her heart. It makes me instantly suspect that a lot of 'anti-feminists' are at heart angry teens who can't believe they've been told to clean their rooms by a FEEEEEMALE and oh my god my mom has all the money in this household that's so unfair and proves WOMEN ARE REALLY IN CHARGE OF SOCIETY.

Shaun is easily my favorite youtuber (well, tied with one other channel tbh), and was one of the first two channels that I ever really watched on KZfaq, as I’m just old enough to regularly go to KZfaq to watch music videos, skits, funny animal vids, skateboard clips, etc., but was too old to have caught onto the whole “interesting original content creators” thing right when it happened, so I was shocked to find such thought provoking and well made content on the platform, and now I watch more KZfaq channels than anything else. Shaun legit fundamentally changed the media I consume, and for the better. Fast forward several years, and while I’m super stoked every time Shaun releases a new video, that does not happen NEARLY as much as I’d like. I do appreciate how well constructed all of shauns videos and arguments are, and would never suggest the channel should produce more content than they are comfortable with, but that doesn’t mean my life wouldn’t be measurably better if there was a new Shaun video every day! So all I can do is go through and rewatch old videos on occasion, and every time I find new things that I either missed or forgot, and it’s always a great learning/thinking experience.

Boy, I'm surprised that horses around the world haven't starved to death because of the shortage from that massive straw man Sargon constructed.

“If you can’t tell when a consensual sexual encounter is being initiated.” Was this poor wording? If he is talking about the actual woman refusing sex then he has just implied that women don’t determine whether or not it is consensual and that all sex is essentially consensual.

hoooooly shit that Elliot Rodger thing was scary. This guy needs help.

god the leafyishere clips near the start gave me actual flashbacks to year 8 istg… dark dark times shaun…

I love how naive and un-jaded Shaun is in this video. It’s like he assumed these people have more than twenty brain cells and would be open to non-judgmental and kind discourse.

twelve extra years of having to breathe the same air as carl of Swindon sounds pretty oppressive to me tbh

Before uploading it he actually tweeted this was his funniest video. No, seriously. Would love if you did a breakdown on his video claiming feminism is a supremacy movement. Might actually be a bigger face-palm than his one.

Man, I was under the impression that Sargon was just angry man who hated feminism but trying to blame it for the acts of a mass shooter is a pretty shocking leap, I mean you could look at the actual causes of things like this such as lack of gun control, lack of mental health support, the increasing demand on young people to be constantly successful while being told that not doing amazing in school will cause you to be a total and utter failure in life, Nope none of that obviously the problem is all down to people who want equality. Good video though.

It's not because brains are physically different at birth and continue to diverge throughout our lives It's because girls are raised with different standards of behavior, so they LEARN different behaviors and different ways of "dealing with" their autism. Also, ASD covers so many varying symptoms and people are so dependent on pinning problems on a woman's character that sometimes it's just assumed to be "crazy women"

I think autistic people are great to be around most of the time (though maybe I'm biased because I'm probably autistic too). I don't understand how autism can be used as an insult.

oh man, thank you for videos like these. these are great.

Sargon's title sequence is a visual metaphor for the intellectual desert you're about to go through when you watch one of his videos.

It's quite ironic. Sargon is like the caricature he criticises: Doesn't really know what Feminism is and instead of reading up on it prefers to scream at people for perceived bigotry. This is why i keep saying: Feminism needs to be taught in School.

As an autistic person I find it offensive to be compared to someone like Sargon of Akkad