A Retro Model Railway Collection

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A Retro Model Railway Collection
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This week I'm taking a look at some retro model railway items from the 70s and 80s. As I explain at the start of the video, the father of one of my best friends passed away last year and they very kindly let me hold on to some of his old model railway items.
While most of it was all fairly old, it did have a certain retro charm (I recognise some similar things I was given secondhand as a child!) and amazingly it was all in fantastic condition. So I thought it would be fun to take a look at it all and take a walk down memory lane - partly out of curiosity but also just to see how far our hobby has comes in the decades since.
My thanks go to Al and his family for making this video possible and for entrusting me with this collection.
Chapters:
00:00 - Intro
01:11 - Catalogues & Manuals
03:45 - Accessories
04:25 - Track
08:00 - H&M Controllers
10:40 - Hornby Train Set
13:23 - Locos
10:05 - Conclusion
Thanks for watching 😃

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@JohnSmithShields 2 жыл бұрын

A quick point about the plug hanging out of the packet, back then most electrical items didn't come with a plug, you had to supply your own.

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

Hey John, yeah that was my thought too and it would definitely seem to make sense. Thanks for watching 😃

@JohnSmithShields 2 жыл бұрын

@@ThatModelRailwayGuy I have a few of those class 08s, they are reliable models, ideal for starting out, and due to not being the greatest looking can be had for a reasonable amount second hand.

@melkitson 2 жыл бұрын

A lovely walk down memory lane. Oh for those prices today.

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it. Haha, yes I can't think many of us would be complaining about those prices! Thanks for watching 😃

@willbreckinridge8010 2 жыл бұрын

My condolences to your friend and his family. Nice little collection!🙂

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Will, I'll pass that on. It is a nice collection and I'm very grateful they decided to pass it on to me. Thanks for watching 😃

@loispadgett6306 2 жыл бұрын

Sad to hear about your friends father. Glad that they came to your with the collection you would be honest on value of the things. Happy they let you have some you can do a run in honor of there father that would be fun to see. GOD BLESS 🚂💖🚂💖🚂💖

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

I was very grateful the family came to me and were so willing to let me hold onto so much of it. We did check through the value of everything but unfortunately it's in that area where it's not old enough to be considered valuable yet so they were happy for me to give it a good home and share it with you all. I think I'll definitely have to do a run of honour on the layout in the future. Thanks for watching 😃

@tweedythe9131 2 жыл бұрын

I like the mcvities van too. My grandad had that train set as well as some old PECO things

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

Amazing! Yeah that train set seems like great value as you get so much value out of it. Thanks for watching 😃

@FoxBoi69 2 жыл бұрын

this remids me of my mother's old lego railway packaging and paper things from her childhood in the 70s

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

Yes there's definitely a certain nostalgia from this era and style of packaging! Thanks for watching 😃

@ianmcgee9945 Жыл бұрын

This was great. I'm from Canada and the highlight of my summers in those days were my yearly holiday visits to family in Scotland and getting more trains. I have all the catalogues from this era and most of my models are from the early 80's. These are all great models, if not as detailed as today's. You were surprised most of the locos ran, I'm surprised the Class 47 didn't! See if you can get a copy of the 1981 catalogue. I think it's the best one they ever issued - you'll like it.

@ThatModelRailwayGuy Жыл бұрын

Really glad you enjoyed it Ian. I think I was surprised that the locos mostly worked because I've had experience of older models in the past which have seized up over time and took a bit of work to get moving. Luckily all these (aside from the 47) were practically pristine inside their boxes which helped massively. I also did a follow up video where I got the Class 47 running again too! Thanks for watching and I'll keep an eye out for the 1981 catalogue 😃

@ianmcgee9945 Жыл бұрын

@@ThatModelRailwayGuy Thanks, I'm working my way through your older videos and I did just find the one about getting the 47 running. Those old Triang and Hornby models are nearly indestructible anyway and will nearly always run after a clean-up and service.

@damianinCanadaTT-OO 2 жыл бұрын

Zero 1 was awesome. I saved up and bought it in 1980. Loved it. Couldn’t get any one to pay money for it when I sold my OO stuff in 1984

@gregmacdonald927 2 жыл бұрын

I also ran Zero1 for a while. It was sadly ahead of its time, and the decoders were really tricky to fit in anything smaller than a larger diesel or tender. Still think the design of the controllers themselves just oozed seventies cool! Compared say to the Hornby Elite controllers today, which aspire just so uninspiring.

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah it definitely seems like a big, bold move from Hornby. I wonder what would have happened if they had stuck with it - the hobby could have been very different today. Thanks for watching 😃

@timsully8958 2 жыл бұрын

Crikey, what a tidy wee bundle! That B12 looks wonderful! A bit of a throwback seeing the middle wheel flangeless when train set curves were even tighter than now! 😜 Those H&M controllers were always good and I’m glad to see you got a couple of good ones! Always preferred them to the Hornby types as they always seemed a bit underpowered 🤔 Shame about the 47 but I am sure a quick clean up (and maybe re-energise the magnets) should see her run just great 😉 Cheers mate, nice to see something a little different 👍🍀🍻

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah there was some really great stuff here! The controllers were the icing on the cake really and it it'll be great to run these locos with them. As for the Class 47 you can see how I got on with that here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/btyggJeI2d6Vgmw.html Thanks for watching 😃

@johnhalley974 3 ай бұрын

I’ve still got about 80% of all that stuff you showed…Those Clipper controllers are great…I have that very same class 47… Sometimes the wires to the ringfield motor would unclip.. That’s where I would start.

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 3 ай бұрын

The Class 47 just needed a good clean and service, you can see the process here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/btyggJeI2d6Vgmw.html Thanks for watching 😃

@johnhalley974 3 ай бұрын

@@ThatModelRailwayGuy Just watched it…I’m going to do exactly the same thing with mine…A good damm clean.

@NotSoSpookyGuy 2 жыл бұрын

That era class 08 is amazing, the auto coupling on the rear is way ahead of it's time. My condolences to your friend

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, like I said in the video I've got one in BR Blue that I've had since a kid and it was secondhand when I got it. Was probably one of my favourite locos growing up because it ran so well and it's still going strong today! Thanks for watching 😃

@ModelRailwaysUnlimited 7 ай бұрын

Hi, lovely models. It's odd hearing you describe these as vintage lol to me they were a step up from my start in 1975. The original H&M controllers were bullet proof and fine for even today's motors. Certainly Gaugemaster types would give finer control on modern motors. I must do a so called vintage series with my models. Still got all of them 🎉

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 7 ай бұрын

To be honest these are the sort of models I had as a kid as most of the stuff I had when I was younger was second hand. I have to admit I'd like to do a vintage series of some sort too now that my main layout is finished. Thanks for watching 😃

@iansngauge 2 жыл бұрын

Condolences to you, your friend and his family. Ah, this was like a journey down memory lane for me! Every time you pulled something out of a box I either had one on my layout back in the day, or had seen one at a rail fair or model shop! The brick bridge was a real memory jogger though, as I'd completely forgotten that I had one at the back of my shed layout! I remember when the Zero One came out, and it seemed like magic, but was far too expensive for us mere mortals! I also remember quite clearly having both of those catalogues, which were amazing things to have as a ~10 year old child back in the day as you could get lost in them for hours! Mum and dad even bought me the Mallard from that catalogue for Christmas one year! So, thanks for the memories! All the best, Ian.

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

Glad to hear you enjoyed it Ian! I have a plan for the brick viaduct so hopefully it will make another appearance on the channel at some point in the future. I remember getting the catalogues as a kid and spending ages going through them too! Good times. Thanks for watching 😃

@bobwatson2531 2 жыл бұрын

Still use my old H&M Clipper,bought second hand in 1984,so I've no idea how old it actually is.Still perfect

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

Brilliant! Yeah I'm not surprised, they do seem very well made. Thanks for watching 😃

@stuartallen8684 Ай бұрын

Had that controller…50 years ago! 🙂

@ThatModelRailwayGuy Ай бұрын

There's a good chance it still works knowing how they were built... mind you, knowing how they were built I wouldn't recommend using it with modern locos 😅 Thanks for watching 👍

@georgethomas7814 2 жыл бұрын

What a brilliant gift -- you have wagons to add to your freight and engines to fill the shed. Everything worked.... I wonder if you could fit DCC sockets to these .

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

I was really surprised they let me hang on it to all this but I think they wanted it to go to someone who would appreciate it. As for DCC fitting, I think people have hardwired locos like these in the past so adding a socket should be a similar process. I'll probably keep them running on analog though. Thanks for watching 😃

@russellbenton2987 2 жыл бұрын

Nice one . I still use an H&M Clipper . Mine dates from 1975 . The fence you were holding onto actually clips to the platform ramps to have station fencing . The 47 even at the time was dated . The two lines along the side were designed for the two tone green one , they were completely out of place on the blue one , it really spoiled the model . Again I have a special edition Lady Diana Spencer in large logo livery but still with these lines . Hornby did eventually take them away , I think when there was competition from a Lima model . Hornby eventually had to up their game ! The 25 was a good model for its time in 1977 and still looks ok . Always keen on seeing vintage items . Have a look at Oscar Paisleys channel .

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

Nice info there, especially about the Class 47. Yes that sounds about right that Hornby updated them when they had competition from Lima. Like you say though the Class 25 does still look good even today. Thanks for watching 😃

@mickc7563 2 жыл бұрын

I had those two catalogues. I couldn't afford much in them though as I was 11/12 years old! I still buy them every year now, more out of tradition from those days I guess.

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

Hey Mick, I remember getting the Hornby catalogues as a kid too. Like you I couldn't afford much in them at the time but it was nice to dream. Thanks for watching 😃

@railwayjade 2 жыл бұрын

What a lovely collection!

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

It really is and nearly all of it is in near pristine condition too! Thanks for watching 😃

@adam_fordham 2 жыл бұрын

That was a great video, nice to see some old hornby stuff especially the b12, great little runner, the class 47 would make a good little project in the future and it would be great to see all of the stuff run on the modular layout as well 😀

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Adam, yeah I was particularly impressed with B12 and it's slow running too! I'm definitely going to have a go at getting the Class 47 running as well so stay tuned for that too. Thanks for watching 😃

@nigelcole1936 2 жыл бұрын

Condolences to your friend and his family. Looks like his father had some nice gear and kept it in good condition. Nice to see some of it go to someone who will value and appreciate it. I remember this era of Hornby models and have some of the locos and catalogue you showed. I had the B12 in LNER apple green and was so pleased when I bought it from new when it came out. Would good to see a running session with these please. Who said that reminiscing isn't what it used to be?

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Nigel, I'll pass it on. It is a fantastic collection though and I was amazed at how pristine everything seemed to be. I think I'll definitely need to do a vintage/analogue running session sometime in the future - I just need to check if the wheels will go through some of the points. Thanks for watching 😃

@ciaranburke3243 2 жыл бұрын

Nice little collection thanks for sharing 👍

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

My pleasure Ciaran, my own thanks go to the family for letting me share it with you all. Thanks for watching 😃

@paulcherrytrains3339 2 жыл бұрын

I got the green Class 47 mammoth. Mine lights up behind the number. I love the older Hornby items. That slow speed control is great. Thanks for showing. Regards Paul.

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

Fantastic, I thought the 47 looked like it had lights! I'll definitely have to get this one up and running now to show them off. Yes I think the older Hornby items have a certain charm to them too and they're certainly a good option for those really on a budget. Thanks for watching 😃

@GBDT 2 жыл бұрын

Did you try turning the class 47 around on the rolling road? It may only have 1 set of bogies that drives the train and you may have been trying the unpowered bogies. When my dad passed a couple of years ago it got me thinking about the train sets he bought me in the 50's and 60's. I got them out of the loft, they still worked after 50 years and it got me back into model trains again.

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

Hey George, I made sure the powered bogie was on the rollers but the whole rolling road is powered anyway so even if it was the wrong way round it should have still attempted to move. The good news is I think it will be fairly simple to repair and get it running again. Great to hear you've rediscovered your own train sets though and it's brought you back into the hobby! Thanks for watching 😃

@GBDT 2 жыл бұрын

@@ThatModelRailwayGuy I thought that only the rollers were powered not the rails. So that's good to know, cheers.

@roberthopper1872 2 жыл бұрын

That frieght train set reminds of one of my first model experiences a few years ago was with my uncle's 1993 intercity 225 that had a homemade CD motor conversion that my Grandad made. Models from that era where so much more fun, easier to repair and customise and I notice that you get a lot more model for money. Now your lucky to get a 1 point let alone 2 in a train set.

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah the train sets definitely had a lot in them back then. I do think a few points so you can create sidings or loops does make it much more interesting and probably means a beginner is more likely to go out and get a second loco so they can take full advantage of the set. It's a shame the train sets of today have moved away from this. Thanks for watching 😃

@Puckeater22 2 жыл бұрын

I've got one of them class 25s it's my main work horse on the track. I've used it that much I had to replace the gears! (Worn them down) amazing loco. Mine has the headboard numbers light up though at high voltage/speed. Another cool video from yourself good sir! Many thanks

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

That's fantastic Connor! I was really impressed with it too, the moulded detail is very impressive for the time and the running was very smooth too. Maybe the headboard lights were a later addition though as I think this one is just a sticker. Thanks for watching 😃

@railway187 2 жыл бұрын

Unboxing vintage material is great for a video 👍

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

Glad to hear it! I wasn't sure if anyone else would find this video interesting but I'm glad it's had a positive response. Thanks for watching 😃

@LetsGo_41 2 жыл бұрын

Nice to see the old models coming out of retirement. Some nice scenery you've got there too. Also shout out to the McVities van. I have a rake of old vans such as the Mighty White and Kik Kat. I am on the hunt for the Red Arrow one to go with it.

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Tim, the McVities van is very cool! Hope you succeed on building up your own wagon rake. Thanks for watching 😃

@24816HarryWilliams96 2 жыл бұрын

Brilliant collection of items! I would love to see a vintage running session of these. sad to see that one of them doesn't work.

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Harry, I'd love to do a vintage running session with them too! Yes a shame about the Class 47 but I have an idea how to get it running again. Thanks for watching 😃

@gregmacdonald927 2 жыл бұрын

Brilliant short film. Really enjoyed that! You’ve been given a treasure trove. I would love to see a comparison between the Clipper/GaugemasterDC/DCC. Clipper seemed to get the best out of these old locos.

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Greg, glad you enjoyed it. Yes the Clipper controllers do seem to be incredibly high quality - especially considering that they both work flawlessly after all this time. Thanks for watching 😃

@alfgeorge5003 2 жыл бұрын

great finds

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

It is a great little collection! Thanks for watching 😃

@HarrisHandle 2 жыл бұрын

I’ve got a class 25 and I can’t tell any difference between them except mine is D7571 and that it D7596.

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome, it seems like a pretty decent model so I wouldn't be surprised if Hornby have made loads of them over the years. Thanks for watching 😃

@ianmerrison7097 2 жыл бұрын

I have the old Hornby 47 421 I found on Ebay. It does light up at the front. Fascinating video thank you.

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

Excellent, I'll definitely have to try and get this one working then! Stay tuned for that in the near future. Thanks for watching 😃

@ianmerrison7097 2 жыл бұрын

I wish I could copy a pic in! Cheers 😀

@kevinludlow7561 2 жыл бұрын

Great to watch - just bought a Clipper controller off e-bay for a tenner and it works sweetly and smoothly. You're right, the Hornby diesels from this time are robust, simple to maintain (well, the Rringfields are---- sort of) and won't bust the bank to buy. When in particular, Hornby seems to want you to get a bank loan to finance your hobby!!

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Kevin, yeah the controllers do seem to be really high quality even for today's standards. The diesels definitely seem like a great option for budget modellers too considering they can be picked up second hand for not too much. Thanks for watching 😃

@miketreehouse 2 жыл бұрын

Lovely collection, mine is from a very similar era but sadly not in the same condition.

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Mike, yeah I can definitely appreciate that. I was surprised myself that all this was in good condition and for the most part still working! Thanks for watching 😃

@Shauniboy1984 2 жыл бұрын

Really great video, perhaps as well as brochures, do some repairs and maybe new vs old comparisons 👍

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! I'm definitely going to try and get the Class 47 running again (stay tuned for that very soon!) but some new vs old comparisons are a great suggestion too. Thanks for watching 😃

@francismewton3276 2 жыл бұрын

I really enjoyed that video, over the years I'd picked a class 25 and a class 47 as in your short film the class 25 I've just replaced the traction tyres and she's still pulling good rakes on my layout, class 47 runs but sad to say I only give her light work as I think she's on her last legs so I try not to run her a great deal. I also have a couple of class 37 may be a bit older they run OK not brilliant but good enough for age,.......

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it Francis! Interesting to hear your Class 47 doesn’t want to play ball either. I did a follow up video to this where I got mine working again just by giving the motor a quick service. Might be worth having a go yourself as it made a world of difference to mine. Thanks for watching 😃

@johnstephens649 2 жыл бұрын

Great fun and some old friends from my childhood! Those H&M Clippers go on forever. Mine must be over 50 years and although I only use it for loco servicing, still works fine. Those old locos are pretty solidly made and easy to work on so with a bit of cleaning and lubrication should run well and aren’t that bad in quality. Do wonder if today’s superbly detailed models will still be running in 2060!?

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

Hey John, yeah it does seem that the stuff from this era really was built to last. I was pleasantly surprised that the controllers and locos still worked and even then I wasn't expecting them to run so well. You're right about them being easy to maintain and repair in comparison to today's models. Thanks for watching 😃

@ChetNotJet 2 жыл бұрын

Hornby still put their points in those sleeves

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

Oh cool, I didn't know that! Have to admit it's been a while since I bought a Hornby point. Thanks for watching 😃

@phillwhitehead8591 Жыл бұрын

I’d be interested in seeing you get the 47 running

@ThatModelRailwayGuy Жыл бұрын

Hi Phil, this video is from a while ago now so you’re in luck: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/btyggJeI2d6Vgmw.html Thanks for watching 😃

@Jeff_Faust 2 жыл бұрын

Those old Hammant and Morgan controllers...why didn't more manufacturers combine speed and direction in one knob?

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

It's a brilliant system isn't it. I can only imagine it's much easier/cheaper to have a switch control the direction which is why it's not seen as much. Thanks for watching 😃

@tonypetts6663 2 жыл бұрын

H & M's are great, but there were some others with center off that were never quite off, always trying to go in one direction or another. Clippers and Duettes (dual control) are still very popular on the second hand market due to their superior control in comparison to the cheap end of the market today, and can give many an expensive model a good run for the money.

@flybobbie1449 2 жыл бұрын

£11.50 would have been half a weeks wage for me back in 1980.

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

Oh yeah, I'm well aware that £11.50 then doesn't equate to the same value today. I just thought it was an interesting point. Thanks for watching 😃

@HamStrains 2 жыл бұрын

Very exo friendly way of packaging the points. But people would call it cheap if we did that now so some good old plastic it is! The controller would probably be a out 80 to a hundred quid in todays money. Not exactly a cheapo one. If that 08 was released today with that box art there would a lynching from some youtubers. 🤣

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

I remember a few years ago PECO moved away from card packaging for some of their kits and points to have plastic sleeves instead and a lot of people weren't happy about that so perhaps public perception has shifted somewhat. Yes the controller definitely wouldn't be a cheap one today! I was just making the point that you can still buy a starter controller for around £15 but this would be more equivalent to the Gaugemaster range or Hornby's larger H&M controller. You're right about the 08 though, I don't think it would just be KZfaqrs who would be annoyed about that one! Thanks for watching 😃

@johnland7318 2 жыл бұрын

Could the points with 3 connections be fitted with a point motor? Would love to have a video leafing thru the catalogues.

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

Ah very good point John! That makes a lot of sense now I think about it. Yes hopefully I'll get round to doing a video on each of the catalogues in the future. Thanks for watching 😃

@ronaldlatek8103 2 жыл бұрын

The problem with those add on controllers is a safety concern. If the main unit was plugged in and you stuck the pins in you would literally be putting your fingers in the socket.

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

Good to know Ronald, I won't be trying that anytime soon then 😂 I sort of assumed the transformer was all contained in the main controller and it was only 12v that was being transferred across to the add-on. Thanks for watching 👍

@timothyduncan3457 2 жыл бұрын

@@ThatModelRailwayGuy You were right in the first instance, the main unit with the plug, only outputs 12v DC one side and 16v AC the other. So touching those probs is the same as the track with the power on. From memory, I think you could only run a max of 3 add on controllers before the transformer got overloaded. See Health and Safety existed even back then.