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This board can make any Fire Alarm Panel ‘Voice Evacuation’!

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Aaron Productions

Aaron Productions

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@Aaronproductions
@Aaronproductions 3 жыл бұрын
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@pvh_facp4001yt
@pvh_facp4001yt 4 жыл бұрын
Well, at least there is finally a cheap way to have voice evac without having to buy an entire other panel lol.
@FireTech7
@FireTech7 4 жыл бұрын
IM FREAKING GETTING THIS RN
@firealarmexpert25
@firealarmexpert25 Жыл бұрын
No need now due to your amount of voice evac panels
@FireTech7
@FireTech7 Жыл бұрын
@@firealarmexpert25 the ifp-2000ecs is the only voice panel I have
@lumenfirealarms
@lumenfirealarms 4 жыл бұрын
Cool video I will check all your past videos!!
@nicsalarmsmore1081
@nicsalarmsmore1081 4 жыл бұрын
Just ordered one, Thanks!
@vintagefirealarmguy5285
@vintagefirealarmguy5285 4 жыл бұрын
Very nice. I will try with my first panel soon
@vrryan6
@vrryan6 4 жыл бұрын
I'm buying one! Thanks for the video Aaron!
@firealarmexpert25
@firealarmexpert25 Жыл бұрын
Did not work I see
@vrryan6
@vrryan6 Жыл бұрын
@@firealarmexpert25 Mine went kaboom
@literalyammer
@literalyammer 4 жыл бұрын
Totally doing this.
@jbeezy23_20
@jbeezy23_20 4 жыл бұрын
I started back watching your videos
@Aaronproductions
@Aaronproductions 4 жыл бұрын
It will work with ANY PANEL, that is why the thumbnail and description say that. Please refrain from making comments that ask “will it work with ________ panel” because the answer is yes. thank you! How to use this module with the MS-2/4: www.aaronproductions.net/documents
@TheCarson116
@TheCarson116 3 жыл бұрын
Hey thanks, tried this with my 5208 and it works like a charm. I even made use of the other 3 inputs for other messages, such as all clear, weather alert/emergency, and drill. I'm actually planning on buying one that has TWENTY channels on it so I can have EVEN MORE messages on the system! Only problem with this method though I'd say is that you can't have a microphone to talk through the speakers with. There might be a way of adding one, I just haven't found it.
@DerpyFireAlarms
@DerpyFireAlarms 4 жыл бұрын
Oh hell yes
@Txdcblues
@Txdcblues 3 ай бұрын
I got an mp3 like this with 9 triggers and “lamp” terminals which could be used standalone for your NAC. I’m making a panel using just that without anything needing programming
@Txdcblues
@Txdcblues 2 ай бұрын
Thanks to your video and inspiration from GeauxPJ I’ve come a long way in building my panel! Can’t wait for it to be done
@michaelgrahamwongacutemadness
@michaelgrahamwongacutemadness 3 ай бұрын
maybe something like this would be approved in a small building
@Aaronproductions
@Aaronproductions 3 ай бұрын
Unfortunately not since it’s not a supervised circuit
@P25AES
@P25AES 4 жыл бұрын
So to silence it, you can essentially stick a relay on a silencable nac, the normally open side is connected to power input to mp3 module. When panel goes into alarm, relay will close, power will pass it with then detect the alarm relay is closed and sound. When panel is silenced, nac turns off, relay goes open cutting power to module stopping sound.
@Aaronproductions
@Aaronproductions 4 жыл бұрын
KG1AES Videos not really though because it has to boot up first
@P25AES
@P25AES 4 жыл бұрын
@@Aaronproductions what is the boot time?
@Aaronproductions
@Aaronproductions 4 жыл бұрын
KG1AES Videos 3 seconds
@P25AES
@P25AES 4 жыл бұрын
@@Aaronproductions not terrible
@firealarmfever7560
@firealarmfever7560 3 жыл бұрын
I think imma use my last nac and get a external relay and do this! I’m exited
@SWAFanPilot
@SWAFanPilot 5 ай бұрын
If I connect a wired phone to the speaker output terminals, would it broadcast to the speakers as long as audio isn't playing? I have an old Autocall-Grinnell MCM-500 module that would be neat to hook up.
@AlarmSystemTech
@AlarmSystemTech 4 жыл бұрын
Nice!
@FourtyFiftyEighty
@FourtyFiftyEighty 4 жыл бұрын
Is there a way to make the message start playing as soon as the board is powered?
@Aaronproductions
@Aaronproductions 4 жыл бұрын
4050-80 yes, just short out the common to the input and leave it connected
@FourtyFiftyEighty
@FourtyFiftyEighty 4 жыл бұрын
Aaron Productions cool! Running this with 9volt batteries and don’t want to have to power the board continuously
@SignalSysBasics
@SignalSysBasics Жыл бұрын
@@Aaronproductions what terminal is the input, can you clarify please
@joeycaridi3030
@joeycaridi3030 2 жыл бұрын
The reason why this voice evac board inside a fire alarm panel is not up to code in a real building is because a real voice evac system requires the use of buttons to play different messages, and to clearly know that the fire alarm system is voice evac with also a microphone to talk into the speakers and speaker strobes throughout the whole building
@Aaronproductions
@Aaronproductions 2 жыл бұрын
it’s mainly because it’s not supervised, plus it’s not UL listed for life safety. my EVAX (a real voice evac panel has no buttons… a mic isn’t necessary required either
@jacksonslaterelevatorraila6444
@jacksonslaterelevatorraila6444 3 жыл бұрын
would this work on a fire lite ms 5024 panel from the 90's that outputs fwr
@Aaronproductions
@Aaronproductions 3 жыл бұрын
yes
@vintagesimplexfirealarmsof6440
@vintagesimplexfirealarmsof6440 3 жыл бұрын
i have a simplex panel that would be cool but i staying with regular good old mechanical horns
@simplexthefirealarm1064
@simplexthefirealarm1064 Жыл бұрын
My voice is completely ready. Can you please play one of the simplex voices for me?
@lspdfrisawesome8972
@lspdfrisawesome8972 Жыл бұрын
the silent knight link is broken
@tpmplumbing6748
@tpmplumbing6748 Жыл бұрын
Cool!
@alexandersalarms5380
@alexandersalarms5380 4 жыл бұрын
I made a video of this a while back.. nobody thought my idea was good. low and behold, IT WORKS. see people ?
@Aaronproductions
@Aaronproductions 4 жыл бұрын
you did? what’s the title of it? i want to watch
@alexandersalarms5380
@alexandersalarms5380 4 жыл бұрын
@@Aaronproductions it got deleted along with a few of my other ones because they were cringey. I used an elk 110.
@firealarmtechguy4444
@firealarmtechguy4444 3 жыл бұрын
I would like a full step by step tutorial of installing it.
@Aaronproductions
@Aaronproductions 3 жыл бұрын
If you can’t figure out how it’s wired based on what i explained in the video I wouldn’t advise getting it in the first place, it’s just contact closure.
@pedrosotolopez4457
@pedrosotolopez4457 3 жыл бұрын
Bro WTF, is awsome, i need for professional work with notifier
@safetyzone2962
@safetyzone2962 3 жыл бұрын
It says in the description this is NOT for a real building.
@nesmanmain0001
@nesmanmain0001 3 жыл бұрын
How many amps does this put out, also do you know if you can set a relay on a Fireworx series panel to silence-able????
@CoolSimasGuy
@CoolSimasGuy 3 жыл бұрын
Ohh yeah, does this work with both 25v and 70v speakers?
@Aaronproductions
@Aaronproductions 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, but technically no; a commercial audio system like the ones meant to be used with those speakers have a transformer inside of the amplifier to boost the voltage in order to get the long distance and daisy chaining to work properly without loss - this board doesn’t have a transformer, it’s like a home grade audio amplifier or one you’d find in your car - however - it CAN drive 25/70v but you would have to have it turned up nearly all the way and you wouldn’t get as much output since it has to stress to output even a fraction as much as a transformer used on a fire alarm VE panel or pro amplifier
@CoolSimasGuy
@CoolSimasGuy 2 жыл бұрын
@@Aaronproductions Ahh okay. That’s something to note. One more question, I’m using my MS-9200UD for this project. Can I use the 9200UD relays to control the triggerable outputs or would I need CRF-300 for the outputs to function?
@carynemiliani2850
@carynemiliani2850 2 жыл бұрын
Mine doesn’t play at all and I programmed it right
@QuentinRichardsthe2012brony
@QuentinRichardsthe2012brony 4 жыл бұрын
Nice! Are custom messages possible?
@Aaronproductions
@Aaronproductions 4 жыл бұрын
Yes it plays any mp3 or WAV file, its an MP3 player.
@FireSystem45
@FireSystem45 4 ай бұрын
Thanks
@P25AES
@P25AES 3 жыл бұрын
So I noticed an issue, these boards do not like to be powered off a NAC at least on the MS9200UDLS. 2 burned up all ready. This is because of the supervisory reverse polarity. What I did was setup a relay/optocoupler module on the NAC with 2 diodes in between. This prevents the reverse polarity from burning up the module and/or triggering the relay. Then on the relay side I have resetable power going through the relay to the board with a jumper on the audio card to play upon power up. I found this is the best method sofar and is silenceable. I burned through 2 audio cards and a relay card so you guys don't have to. An explanation video will be up soon but for now this is a quick test of the setup. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/id6enpaqzt_dn4k.html
@TheCarson116
@TheCarson116 3 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure you're NOT supposed to POWER the board, but instead simply short the corresponding input to make the message play. That's what I'm doing with my Silent Knight 5208: I have a relay connected to NAC 2 (the "horn NAC" as I've designated it) which in turn is connected to Input 1 on the MP3 board. When the panel goes into alarm both NAC 1 (the "strobe NAC" in my case) and NAC 2 turn on. NAC 2 powers the relay which closes, shorting Input 1 on the MP3 board and cuing it to play the fire alarm message. When the "Silence" button is pressed, NAC 2 cuts off but NAC 1 remains on, turning off the relay and stopping the MP3 board from playing the message, but allowing the strobe to keep flashing. Then everything turns off upon a reset.
@P25AES
@P25AES 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheCarson116 problem is the nac is always powered so you will have to put a diode in line unless you have a polarized relay with reverse polarity protection. If your nac is not supervised then you will be fine.
@TheCarson116
@TheCarson116 3 жыл бұрын
@@P25AES I will admit, I'm sorta confused on the way you have yours set up, but with a relay connected to a NAC the NAC power will NEVER reach the board, since you're going through the relay. (I'm using a small 24VDC relay, rather than a relay board (I don't think the 5208 even has a relay board available for it anyway)
@P25AES
@P25AES 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheCarson116 you have supervisory power on the nac, it is reverse polarity. When the panel goes in alarm, the polarity switches and activated the devices. The setup i have works fine now although I now have an EVAX panel so no issues.
@TheCarson116
@TheCarson116 3 жыл бұрын
@@P25AES I actually have the NAC supervision disabled on ALL my 5208's NACs since it'd be a pain to try and make sure the EOL resistors were always connected to the alarm(s), especially when changing it/them out. But like I said, I don't think it really matters when you're using a relay.
@nesmanmain0001
@nesmanmain0001 3 жыл бұрын
Does it take a Micro SD card or regular SD card? Wasn't sure because you never specifically clarified.
@Aaronproductions
@Aaronproductions 3 жыл бұрын
Micro, but it also has built in flash memory
@nesmanmain0001
@nesmanmain0001 3 жыл бұрын
@@Aaronproductions do they come with the SD card?
@Aaronproductions
@Aaronproductions 3 жыл бұрын
@@nesmanmain0001 no
@camaronruss9476
@camaronruss9476 3 жыл бұрын
Does it have to be run through a relay? My relays don’t work. Instead could I use the 12v + and - reset?
@Aaronproductions
@Aaronproductions 3 жыл бұрын
It has to be run through a dry contact relay
@firealarmexpert25
@firealarmexpert25 Жыл бұрын
Really just has to short the common to one of the inputs
@nesmanmain0001
@nesmanmain0001 3 жыл бұрын
I have some questions about wiring, do you have discord?
@Aaronproductions
@Aaronproductions 3 жыл бұрын
yes
@firealarmtechguy4444
@firealarmtechguy4444 3 жыл бұрын
can It handle the FWR of my IO500 or do I need to connect it to the booster power supply?
@Aaronproductions
@Aaronproductions 3 жыл бұрын
yes
@safetyzone2962
@safetyzone2962 3 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure AUX power is filtered anyways.
@Aaronproductions
@Aaronproductions 3 жыл бұрын
@@safetyzone2962 usually
@ResetTheFireAlarm
@ResetTheFireAlarm 6 ай бұрын
Can you use this without a panel?
@Aaronproductions
@Aaronproductions 6 ай бұрын
Yes, just use a relay on your horn strobe circuit
@ResetTheFireAlarm
@ResetTheFireAlarm 3 ай бұрын
Whats a relay and how do I use it
@Aaronproductions
@Aaronproductions 3 ай бұрын
@@ResetTheFireAlarm There are 4 relays on this board, I suggest watching videos on relays to figure out how they work.
@ResetTheFireAlarm
@ResetTheFireAlarm 3 ай бұрын
@@AaronproductionsOk thanks
@ThePurpleMage1
@ThePurpleMage1 2 жыл бұрын
can you do two stage voice with this?
@Aaronproductions
@Aaronproductions 2 жыл бұрын
Sure! if your panel allows for that to be programmed to the relays/modules
@ThePurpleMage1
@ThePurpleMage1 2 жыл бұрын
@@Aaronproductionscan you connect it to the nac so that its silenceable?
@jbelevator5461
@jbelevator5461 3 жыл бұрын
What type of SD card are you using ?
@Aaronproductions
@Aaronproductions 3 жыл бұрын
JB Elevator micro, San disk
@jbelevator5461
@jbelevator5461 3 жыл бұрын
@@Aaronproductions thanks
@FireSystem45
@FireSystem45 3 ай бұрын
Will this work on the Ms 4?
@Aaronproductions
@Aaronproductions 3 ай бұрын
Yes. Use the alarm relay, you can also do a trouble and supervisory message with their respective relays
@Aaronproductions
@Aaronproductions 3 ай бұрын
www.aaronproductions.net/documents
@FireSystem45
@FireSystem45 3 ай бұрын
@@Aaronproductions Can I hook up an alarm relay connection and a supervisory relay connection to one speaker? For a multipurpose speaker
@Aaronproductions
@Aaronproductions 3 ай бұрын
@@FireSystem45 Connect each relay to its own input on the mp3 player and each relay will trigger a different message, over the same speaker output.
@theray2009
@theray2009 3 жыл бұрын
Even a MS2?
@alexandersalarms5380
@alexandersalarms5380 3 жыл бұрын
all panels with a relay.
@foco5657
@foco5657 4 жыл бұрын
what happened to your google classroom trivia?
@Aaronproductions
@Aaronproductions 4 жыл бұрын
Its still there
@foco5657
@foco5657 4 жыл бұрын
@@Aaronproductions it doesnt work
@Picklebean72
@Picklebean72 4 жыл бұрын
Mine won’t loop. I put ‘1’ in the read.cog but it won’t loop.
@Aaronproductions
@Aaronproductions 4 жыл бұрын
Isik A. it’s read.cfg not cog
@Picklebean72
@Picklebean72 4 жыл бұрын
Aaron Productions yes I know. Auto correct put “cog”
@vrryan6
@vrryan6 3 жыл бұрын
lol it took over a year but i finally got one
@samsteimel4506
@samsteimel4506 Жыл бұрын
can u help me install?
@camstech465
@camstech465 4 жыл бұрын
Mine works but it doesn't loop. Can anyone help me, I made the file and put the number 1 on it and named it "read.cfg".
@Aaronproductions
@Aaronproductions 4 жыл бұрын
What type of computer are you using?
@camstech465
@camstech465 4 жыл бұрын
@@Aaronproductions I am using a windows pc that i built last year
@northernfs709
@northernfs709 Жыл бұрын
@@Aaronproductions im having the same issue
@Aaronproductions
@Aaronproductions Жыл бұрын
@@northernfs709 make sure to have “file name extensions” turned on or else you’re just renaming the name, and not the end extension (.cfg)
@bobbyramgarcia8134
@bobbyramgarcia8134 3 жыл бұрын
👍👍👍👍👍
@samsteimel4506
@samsteimel4506 10 ай бұрын
if anyone can help me do this on my ms5ud i will pay you $10
@safealert21yt52
@safealert21yt52 3 жыл бұрын
What panel were you using while making this video?
@Aaronproductions
@Aaronproductions 3 жыл бұрын
MS-10UD
@safealert21yt52
@safealert21yt52 3 жыл бұрын
@@Aaronproductions ah neat, I plan to do this on my ms-9050ud thanks for the good video :D
@hazemblahtimeyyy
@hazemblahtimeyyy 4 жыл бұрын
WHAT
@SouthwestFireAlarms
@SouthwestFireAlarms 4 жыл бұрын
Nice!
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