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ABKO K935P V2 keyboard review (Topre clones)
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Күн бұрынSkip to 6:47 for a typing demonstration.
Today we finally get to take a look at Topre clones! More specifically, the ABKO K935P V2 with what appears to be NiZ switches. I had to do a detailed feel comparison with a Realforce and a Type Heaven to really get to grips with what the differences are here. Hope you enjoy the video! :)
My keyboard reviews: bit.ly/1TbOtft
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I'm Thomas and I do videos and reviews on mechanical keyboards ranging from the most sickening modern RGB gaming keyboards to vintage hardware relics, or sometimes keycaps or keyswitches ranging from Cherry MX to Alps SKCM to IBM buckling springs and anything in between.
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The practice sentence was: "Hello my name is Thomas and I'm typing on an ABKO keyboard right now. This was actually a really nice keyboard to use, I'm surprised at how well these Topre clones stack up!"
@leoguo4762 4 жыл бұрын
Great review video. I really like it. I see a lot of questions talked about the switches compare with the NIZ, and we want to say the ABKO does use the same switches as NIZ. And ABKO is manufactured by NIZ. And the v2 version in the video is a waterproof version, so the workmanship of the case is very high, and it will be very difficult for users to disassemble, but it also shows that the quality is good. I hope everyone likes ABKO and NIZ.
@Chyrosran22 4 жыл бұрын
It's a good board, definitely! Thanks for the clarification! :)
@GlennL42 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, I have a question about NiZ EC switches, did NiZ bought over the right to Noppoo EC switches at some point? I've done some searching online and I found there is a very apparent cut off point between the introduction of two brand's EC switches (i.e: NiZ EC appears after Noppoo EC, both switches never appear on keyboard in the same time period, & that Noppoo EC no longer exist nowadays AFAIK), which lead me to speculate that this is the case, is this true?
@leoguo4762 4 жыл бұрын
@@GlennL42 Haha, you are very careful. In fact, when PLUM was making mechanical keyboard, it was already developing EC switch. Just in time, noppoo needed to make a static capacitance keyboard, so in fact, the static capacitance version and switch of noppoo are all made by NIZ. Although noppoo is no longer available, it's still a great keyboard.
@GlennL42 4 жыл бұрын
@@leoguo4762 Oh ok, that's new to me, thanks for clarifying :)
@junnbluee4619 4 жыл бұрын
Do you know if this keyboard have the 2019 switches or old version?
@zblus 4 жыл бұрын
I was once told that typing on topre clones sounds like boiling water
@jdbaker82 4 жыл бұрын
God bless that sound. I am buying one of these today good lord
@pepperbean243 4 жыл бұрын
Is there a link to where you can buy one?
@mmcallery 4 жыл бұрын
silenced "topre" has got to be on the best sounds for me i just love it. while normally clips are a bad thing i have the realforce RGB and the top plate is all clipped in. the top is easily undone with fingers and the bottom you just slide a spudger across. super easy and the few time ive had the board apart its been a dream. also the varioable actuation point is amazing, super alpha block and modifiers set low so there is no accidental random caps lock. Top quality video as always :)
@Donbros 4 жыл бұрын
yes silenced topre is the best
@shadow0416 4 жыл бұрын
I just recently lubed and silenced my realforce R2 and my god it's amazing.
@Donbros 4 жыл бұрын
@@shadow0416 i think he mentioned silenced verison domes, but silencing mods are also nice. I will probably lube my just bought topre fc660c after a year or so, because I want to keep the warranty a bit longer
@yogalD 4 жыл бұрын
Unpopular opinion but I hate silenced Topre but love unsilenced Topre. The 'tick' on the upstroke makes the thock sounds more thocky and overall the typing sounds better to me. Silenced sounds more scratchy and dull.
@cravasity 4 жыл бұрын
The secondary characters that are below the alphabets on the keycaps are all Korean alphabet characters. The right alt (한영) key toggles between the Korean and QWERTY layers and most keyboards in Korea use right alt to toggle. 한 is for 한글 which is Korean 영 is for 영어 which is English in Korean
@Yobleck 4 жыл бұрын
I don't know much about Korean, but it appears that all the vowels are on the right and all the consonants are on the left. I wonder how that affects usability/ergonomics?
@cravasity 4 жыл бұрын
@@Yobleck That divide between the vowels and consonants works really well. A combination of 2 to 4 vowels and consonants are used to make one letter and one vowel MUST be used with the consonants in this combination (a letter consisting of only vowels or only consonants does not exist). So it results in constant left - right alternation keystrokes and, at least IMO, it's quite efficient. As for ergonomics, from my experience, I don't think it is too different from typing English since Korean pretty much uses the same keys on the keyboard but in a different order. Other than the fact that Korean typing never calls for the use of Caps lock, pretty much identical. (I'm using a 60% board with keycaps that only have English legends and I don't notice any ergonomic benefit/gain from switching between the two languages) Hope this answers your question.
@Neightr0 4 жыл бұрын
@@cravasity Not the person you were replying to, but just wanted to say thanks for the interesting insight; I really enjoyed reading your comment!
@MrJAM-np7go 4 жыл бұрын
The rightmost modifier 한자 is alteration between chinese characters(traditional) and Korean. Windows default ANSI 101 setting for Korean keyboard input is RAlt as 한영 and RCtrl as 한자. Sometimes they can be used as seperated kecodes(Windows support it). So full keysets for Korean is actually ANSI-106(101+3+한영,한자). Although Korean letters are completely phonogram, but there are several instances to use Chinese characters. E.G. Korean word 정의 has 14 different homonographs, so sometimes Koreans write down its original chinese character to clarify which meaning they intend to use.
@Cobalt985 4 жыл бұрын
Holy shit! I’m a lapfox fan too! I’ve never seen another in the wild before!
@kbalding 4 жыл бұрын
3:22 This is what I exactly would expect to hear here.
@Rasyad95 4 жыл бұрын
Finally! Thanks for reviewing this, Thomas. To clarity a little bit, the top "aluminium"-like plate is painted plastic. I broke mine when I opened the keyboard for lubricating the switch.
@zacgolpira4729 4 жыл бұрын
Man I love my Plum Nano. The Niz switches make sounds from a whole other planet. My roommates described it as "boiling water".
@KindOldRaven 4 жыл бұрын
Yep, and some version on certain desks basically sound like raindrops on a window from a distance. It's pretty bizarre. It's a also pretty bizarre I'm so fascinated by keyboard sound... but n the other hand I constantly hear my own typing sound so it kind of makes sense ;p
@MadBoosterROTMG 4 жыл бұрын
this is just accurate
@wkg19591 4 жыл бұрын
It's another rainy yucky day here in scenic Tennessee but one bright spot is a video from Tom. Thanks man :-)
@Chyrosran22 4 жыл бұрын
Haha thanks mate xD .
@giuseppeafellay4855 4 жыл бұрын
Korean here. The commercial mech market in Korea is really interesting. Instead of the western keyboard market where manufacturers seem to focus more on making sub $100 keyboards with minimal build, cherry switches and decent caps, the korean mech industry seems to focus more on innovative switches and gimmicks or premium build quality and slap the lowest price they could. This abko was one of the best commercial boards I have tried period. I have used countless boards and for a stock board, this is outstanding. There is another korean board that has optical switches called the "CJ Entus" that come with clickbar switches. Unlike Kailh clickbar switches, these switches come in a medium tactility which is comparable to NOS Pine Alps SKCM White. I highly recommend you try them out.
@bawla Жыл бұрын
Would you still recommend that CJ Entus keyboard in 2022? The optoelectric clickbar switches seem interesting. Are there new Korean prebuilts that you'd recommend in 2022?
@zblus 4 жыл бұрын
Yee finally. I luv my topre clones
@blendernoob64 Жыл бұрын
Just ordered a Niz keyboard for night time use! It cost me quite a pretty penny but I’m really excited!
@triggerhappyasian 4 жыл бұрын
Love my NiZ 75% 45g, can't see myself going back to a more traditional switch after having this.
@Orilexify 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed no amount of lubing mx switches has gotten even remotely close to the smoothness my niz has after only lubing the sliders It's like typing on clouds
@justinchou2033 2 жыл бұрын
After experimenting with Cherry MX switches and Romer-Gs I can't go back to mechanicals. I find that traditional switches fatigue my fingers and wrists whereas with these I can type for much longer periods of time without issues.
@cthulpiss 4 жыл бұрын
Oh man, that sound is GREAT.
@gmcdon 4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely love the sound of this one!
@RubiKeys 10 ай бұрын
such a nice deep relaxing voice, felt asleep three times trying to end the video to know about this keeb tho xd
@jeraldkb 4 жыл бұрын
I was just checking them out too, how convenient!
@Baljortar 4 жыл бұрын
I hope you can make in the future more Korean keyboard reviews, like the cheap AF Qsenn DT-35 (actually using it right now). Thanks for all your videos. I'm planning on upgrading my keyboard for this one!
@illitero 4 жыл бұрын
I have a 55g Royal Kludge full-size variant I picked up a couple years ago for $45 that has destroyed my adventurous nature with trying new boards and switches because it just feels too damned good.
@PogGamerMan 4 жыл бұрын
Doesn’t the AKKO come with springs for the switches? I thought that was their response to people that wanted the switch to have more resistance
@jdbaker82 4 жыл бұрын
I just got one of these today and this was so worth the money. I am selling all my mx keyboards!
@terabyteultra1673 4 жыл бұрын
r/mechmarket
@Dyto69 4 жыл бұрын
Another nice Saturday morning Video with a nice coffe, noice
@stopmotiontacos 4 жыл бұрын
I purchased this keyboard thanks to your review. I like it very much. Great typing feel and sound, much better experience than my Cherry MX Blues. It's not just some knockoff keyboard, you can tell they put some real engineering into it. If you're interested, just buy it from Amazon and return it if you don't like it. The main downside for keyboard is that it's Korean-focused - I can't find the configuration software on their website since it's all in Korean and I don't have a disc drive so I can't install it from the included disc. Anyways I would probably stick with Cherry profile if I were to replace the keycaps, since there is some wobble.
@popenieafantome9527 3 жыл бұрын
9 months late, but 3rd party software could be used if its just for personal computer. Auto hotkey is nice for remapping keys and apparently macros. For example, my keyboard has no dedicated volume buttons so i just remapped some keys i didn’t use to that.
@bawla Жыл бұрын
Did you ever figure out the software for this keyboard?
@stopmotiontacos 4 ай бұрын
I never figured out the software, I’m afraid. I’m still using it as my main keyboard 3 years later
@Spearra 4 жыл бұрын
Btw these keyboards generally come with a small plastic bag with external springs in them. Apply them to the slider how you would a rubber o ring onto a traditional mechanical keyboard. It makes the weighting "slightly" heavier. Unfortunately mine only came with 52 so choose those 52 keys carefully if its the same with yours XD
@DZ-ms3fw 4 жыл бұрын
I have the 965 (full size) with 55g keys. It sounds fantastic and feels pretty good too.
@BigDaddy-xz5hv 4 жыл бұрын
ABKO(=COX)'s recent niz switch keyboards are called endeavour (tkl) & empress, and they are highly recommended. Many people have been satisfied with those keyboards.
@sandwichtabasco5588 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve used this board at office for a year. Not bad for a budget NIZ board. As I remember, I’ve got this board for KRW 79,000 (about USD 70) when there’s warehouse clearance.
@cqnrad 3 жыл бұрын
since you specified that you like these better than topre, would you consider them to have overtaken the topre/dome with slider spot at #5 on your top tactile switches list? ik you said you probably wouldn't revise the list, but I'm just curious if you think the switches are THAT good
@ugyuu 4 жыл бұрын
Wish i could try out Topre or other switches i've never got to use on a keyboard before thinking about buying one, but i don't think there's a test switch set!
@fatmouth007 4 жыл бұрын
Just buy a board and return it if you don't like it! That may be a good way to get a feel for Topre
@spxctreofficial 3 жыл бұрын
You should do a round-up of your favorite rubber dome keyboards!
@nbshftr 3 жыл бұрын
there is actually a 55g version so if you are worried about accidentally pressing a key down, there is a better option for you
@pepperbean243 Ай бұрын
Would these switches have made it onto the *_Tactile Switches_* or *_Most Silent Switches_* lists if you could have a do-over?
@Seatux 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for featuring the Shopee MY page. Now to PM if the co. still wants to import one.
@Seatux 4 жыл бұрын
As a Malaysian, I took to PM the seller about availability. I won't put my hopes up, since the seller is an overseas one and might struggle to understand. At that listed price, its only just RM112 cheaper than buying a FC980C board with local warranty and what not.
@TheMasterofComment 3 жыл бұрын
@@Seatux did u purchase and was it worth it?
@Seatux 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheMasterofComment no reply. I guess it's an abandoned listing
@TheMasterofComment 3 жыл бұрын
@@Seatux can buy from gmarket if you still want try
@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017 4 жыл бұрын
Ooooh I miss that thock of topre. I still pine for a programmable HHKB.
@thatsitforacher8831 4 жыл бұрын
Don't they have KCs for the HHKB that make it programmable
@KindOldRaven 4 жыл бұрын
Decided to get a 2019 NIZ TKL version. Unfortunately it comes with 35g domes, so I'll probably switch those out for the 45 or 55 gram version, but I'm very much looking forward to giving this a try. Now the wait has begun... will probably take quite a while, especially if they decide to throw the Netherlands into lockdown ;p Also: I too believe this keyboard uses NIZ switches. They even sound pretty much identical to 45g NIZ boards. Thanks for the great video! :D
@Donbros 4 жыл бұрын
45 is so light XD so 35 is funny
@leoguo4762 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe you can check this, we have the 45g version in stock. www.nizkeyboard.com/products/niz-2019-new-x87-electro-capacitive-bluetooth-keyboard-non-rgb-white-black?variant=30347148066887
@tomaskusnir2374 4 жыл бұрын
Where did you get yours from? I fancy having one myself (I have the older 87 version from Massdrop) because I was told the newer switches were smoother than the older ones. Anyways, I love mine so much I will probably never go back to MX switches again.
@KindOldRaven 4 жыл бұрын
@@tomaskusnir2374 I'd personally only order from nizkeyboard.com or their aliexpress store (or perhaps local options, but we've got none in Europe that I know of) ;p Shipping might take a while this time for me, but I've heard good stories about their shipping times in general. Do keep in mind that they have different stock, despite having the same e-mail adress etc ;p The one I ordered was out of stock on nizkeyboard, yet in stock on their aliexpress store. Currently awaiting DHL tracking haha
@tomaskusnir2374 4 жыл бұрын
@@KindOldRaven yeah I was looking at aliexpress and found one pretty cheap which was nice, I am afraid I might get the old scratchier switches so I am a bit cautious
@Banom7a 4 жыл бұрын
I keep forgetting about American Daylight saving and waiting for your video at the wrong time lol
@XalphYT 4 жыл бұрын
FarhanAxiq In one more week, Europe will change to daylight savings time too. Then whatever time you're expecting in North America will be right again.
@Kikker861 4 жыл бұрын
Sound like raindrops on a window. My NiZ board is the same hidden clip design, but I was able to swap out the weaksauce 35g domes for korean 55g domes. It made the keyboard much better.
@AlterLynx 8 ай бұрын
"Aluminum in imperial units" was funny
@CharlesHydronium 4 жыл бұрын
good candidate for redux of top x silent switches
@냉묘 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for leaving a review video. I also want to take a video about this keyboard.
@MrJAM-np7go 4 жыл бұрын
ABKO is came from ABsolute KOrea, which specialize computer peripherals. I've heard Noppoo and NIZ is same manufacturer with different name. I think the other variation of the Topre clone is made by same factory.
@satang500 3 жыл бұрын
Enter and Left shift key caps were detached, do you know how to put them back? they are different from other small key caps
@ku-1500 4 жыл бұрын
Will you do a review of Niz Plum keyboard? They seem to have a good reputation and many people think that they are great alternatives of Topre.
@Chyrosran22 4 жыл бұрын
This one was pretty close wasn't it? XD
@ku-1500 4 жыл бұрын
@@Chyrosran22 I guess the board wasn't that similar? 😹 Although they may use same switches.
@Chyrosran22 4 жыл бұрын
@@ku-1500 The switches and keycaps are apparently the same. The boards are also mad by the same manufacturer. So it's close in many respects I'd say :) .
@TheMasterofComment 3 жыл бұрын
@@Chyrosran22 it's strange in how they use the same caps and switches but many people swear they feel different..
@raulsaavedra709 4 жыл бұрын
@ 6:45 Quite a break, a great sounding keyboard for once! :)
@marck86 4 жыл бұрын
Can you try a couple more from this brand? They seem very interesting.
@Zentennen 3 жыл бұрын
How do these compare in terms of roundedness to topre?
@Fishbolls 4 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know how to get rid of the horrible spring sounds from niz keyboards?
@DVRC 4 жыл бұрын
How does it compare against BTC dome with slider?
@W0JCIK 4 жыл бұрын
anyone know if you can use the topre silencing rings...? like the dental band thingies
@RemofRenaissance 4 жыл бұрын
Great video. Noob qs to ask... Is it difficult to convert these keyboards to a UK layout (or is it just easier to leave as US?).
@loretta1971 3 жыл бұрын
They only come in ANSI layout, no ISO version. So you'll be missing a key (like I am, I use ISO-DE), but it can be a key you don't use anyway. (^° in my case).
@hh-dr4db 4 жыл бұрын
Plum is the OEM for Noppoo. Niz is Plum's brand for electro-capacitive keyboards.
@cravasity 4 жыл бұрын
I've heard that Hansung (another Korean manufacturer) topre clones are a bit better than ABKO ones, but i think they use the same NiZ switches. They differ in their style of case build. It wouldn't be bad to look out for a Hansung topre if you plan on revisiting topre clones
@Kikker861 4 жыл бұрын
55g Hansung domes feel identical other than a bit more snap than the 35g NiZ. Probably due to the weighting tbh. I switched mine out because of the low weighting of the stock NiZ.
@zer0slayer1 4 жыл бұрын
Can we get these boards overseas?
@이리야 4 жыл бұрын
콕스제가 젤 좋지 않나요 노뿌중에선?
@TheMasterofComment 3 жыл бұрын
I don't speak Korean so I can't perform further research.. but should I even consider than Hansung? I am deciding on Abko now
@user-mt3nu2cx5u 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheMasterofComment Hansung GK898B, COX ENDEAVOUR i prefer this two guys. ABKO is ABsolutley SHIT. I've been using it for about a year, but the Rubber Dome is fast-paced and has a lot of pebbles. If you come to Korea, I hope you buy these two products. Never buy ABKO!
@stephenbrouillette4541 4 жыл бұрын
The body design reminds me of my Durgod K320. Definitely a budget Chinese build, but surprisingly good for the price.
@halfspeaker 3 жыл бұрын
About to buy the full sized for $109. Should I have any second thoughts?
@HiCZoK 2 жыл бұрын
Now I am really curious to check out niz micro 82 or x87
@random_birch_forest 3 жыл бұрын
Seems like you got the short end of the stick on the spacebar stabs, they are quite rattly. I can hear none of that rattle on my Niz x87, though, so maybe worth getting that over ABKO for those looking for Topre clone experience.
@williamng378 2 жыл бұрын
Do they have a Bluetooth version yet?
@wongtak354 4 жыл бұрын
topre clone & topre were epic... i love them ~
@RealSnarb 4 жыл бұрын
Those keycaps. My god. I need them.
@jravac Жыл бұрын
They do feel nice without being too noisy, but this keyboard doesn't have real switches. It's a membrane keyboard with a spring behind each membrane covered key. I took it apart because one of my keys stopped working consistently. That's one of reasons why they're so quiet. The plastic shell is also brittle-there were signs of cracks on mine (and will have more if you try to take apart as the top and bottom are held by just friction and frame clips).
@ethur10n Жыл бұрын
While ABKO does sell membrane keyboards, this one in particular is NOT a membrane keyboard as the internals are similar to Topre. It uses a capacitive PCB and uses a spring under the switches as the capacitive element. The only significant difference between NIZ/ABKO EC switches and Topre is the keycap mount.
@AGuy-vq9qp 7 ай бұрын
@@ethur10nthe domes they use have different characteristics too.
@ruess3012 3 жыл бұрын
I like the expression "aluminum in imperial units".
@nug511 4 жыл бұрын
I would like to see more custom keyboards, and especially properly lubed switches, which i think is the biggest thing you miss out on with stock keyboards.
@XalphYT 4 жыл бұрын
If we lose Thomas to the lubed pandelios crowd, then all hope is lost. There is enough variety in stock keyboards to keep us entertained.
@Chyrosran22 4 жыл бұрын
I'm just absolutely not interested in lubing everything xD .
@nug511 4 жыл бұрын
@@Chyrosran22 lol yea i get that. I definitely enjoy your focus on older keyboards, and i think it is valuable to document older designs. Would be cool tho to see you collab with someone like taeha types or a lubing service, and review like a 500€ TKL with nice lubed switches.
@artenon2302 4 жыл бұрын
Typing 6:46 한글이 보임 I'm korean
@jmrq 4 жыл бұрын
그뭔;;
@Forest2TS 4 жыл бұрын
translated to: "I can't see Korean!"
@permafrost8894 4 жыл бұрын
@@Forest2TS incorrect translation tho lol
@Forest2TS 4 жыл бұрын
@@permafrost8894 I used google translate, thanks
@terabyteultra1673 4 жыл бұрын
I am too
@ZombieLincoln666 3 жыл бұрын
I want something other than all these mx clones.. but this seems like it’s not that different than a good rubber dome switch.
@andrewdias478 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder how these would sound with thick SA caps!
@Orilexify 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing
@dylanbobyeoh6062 4 жыл бұрын
Shopee?
@D34doneTTV 4 жыл бұрын
Are there more “gaming” keyboards that have contactless switches? I recently bought the Steelseries TKL version and found that the linear contactless switches the developed are BY FAR my favorite I have ever used, and I definitely want to get a razer one as well, just didn’t know if there were more. I tend to like all the RGB and cool logos and such that come with a “gaming” keyboard.
@D34doneTTV 4 жыл бұрын
Also, how do these switches compare to something like the steelseries? Amazon shows that k995p v3 as like 215 dollars which is right there with the steelseries tbh, but kinda far above the razer (granted TKL versus full board, but a 85 dollar difference is quite large when thinking purely about the switches, typing, and gaming)
@Chyrosran22 4 жыл бұрын
@@D34doneTTV It's a bit difficult to compare; these are tactile, whereas the SSHE and Razer Libra switches are linear.
@D34doneTTV 4 жыл бұрын
@@Chyrosran22 Ah, Gotcha, yeah I didnt really think about that. Thanks!
@nitroraptor5316 4 жыл бұрын
Still looking for a Novatouch. I think I'll get this instead :)
@quasistellar 4 жыл бұрын
I have one and it's great, but it's not factory silenced like this one. I would just buy this instead for sure. That sound is amazing!
@raptorzoz6251 4 жыл бұрын
My Novaotuch when silenced (with des keys #3) is great, but its underwhelming for the price, though i havent tried the board in this review, Id recommend it since thr build quality of novatouches are worse than realforces out of the box
@EvolMate 4 жыл бұрын
The keycaps look pretty much the same as my Plum's keycaps. As well as the switches.
@HalianTheProtogen 3 жыл бұрын
5:35 The sublegends are indeed Korean; its script, Hangeul, is what's known as a “syllabic alphabet”, where each syllable is a block composed of individual letters. Everything from TGB left is consonants, while everything from YHN right is vowels.
@treeleaf6471 4 жыл бұрын
3:30 I died
@tonystair6818 4 жыл бұрын
You should review a NiZ Plum topre-clone sometime, Thomas. I'm typing on one right now.
@porkmancer 4 жыл бұрын
Getting into the guts of a RealForce is very easy, and the RF’s look better. If they made it easier to open up, it would be a far better board IMO. I’d be interested in seeing a hhkb clone using these switches
@ozmobozo 4 жыл бұрын
Hey I have a question. What is your everyday use keyboard?
@Chyrosran22 4 жыл бұрын
None really! I keep testing different ones :) .
@brendanhotchkiss4860 3 жыл бұрын
To anyone who has this keyboard, should I get the 45 g or 55 gram? I want the numpad ye I am not sure which one feels better in the common consenceus
@enerjiCS 3 жыл бұрын
It's personal preference. I have the 45g board, and have no issues with accidentally pressing keys. I will say, however, if you are used to Cherry MX or Gateron reds or browns, these switches will feel a bit heavier than those even at 45g because they don't depress at all until you push them past 45 grams.
@brendanhotchkiss4860 3 жыл бұрын
@@enerjiCS I am used to ibm buckling springs because my freind lended me a unicomp model m lol
@Oatneil1 2 жыл бұрын
This sounds quite similiar to BTC dome and slider
@matthewavilez318 4 жыл бұрын
we actually call it "can metal" in imperial units
@lucidmoses 4 жыл бұрын
You at one point asked for Top X ideas. How about; Best looking (stock) keyboards. I'm sure that black focus would make the cut.
@Chyrosran22 4 жыл бұрын
That's an interesting one tbh. Normally I avoid making Top X videos about keyboards, because there are simply too many, I have too few, and the videos become obsolete more quickly. That's why I tend to do them about switches, as I have an enormous amount of them, and they don't change as quickly. But who knows, I'll see if I can make something out of this :) . Thanks for the idea!
@jumsdogpetter7610 3 жыл бұрын
sounds like dropping gravel onto a rubber rain boot. i like it.
@darkholyPL 4 жыл бұрын
Currently typing this on my Novatouch... don't say bad things about Novatouch ok? Ok! Btw interesting keyboard and I love the sound, I really do! Might look into this one.
@BSOE3058 4 жыл бұрын
Yo, I need help, I'm looking for a shorter keyboard, something with NumPad above arrows
@Chyrosran22 4 жыл бұрын
G80-1800
@BSOE3058 4 жыл бұрын
@@Chyrosran22 I love it! Shame is they are not so common P.s. Tell me, there is similiar keyboard but, without these duplicated Keys [Home, PgUp, PgDn, End, Ins]?
@_fatalruin 4 жыл бұрын
The sliders appear to be Niz 2019 or v2 sliders. How would you compare the smoothness between these sliders and Topre?
@Chyrosran22 4 жыл бұрын
It is fairly comparable.
@_fatalruin 4 жыл бұрын
@@Chyrosran22 Can you put that in very specific Imperial units?
@Chyrosran22 4 жыл бұрын
@@_fatalruin About 3.6 feety fathoms.
@_fatalruin 4 жыл бұрын
@@Chyrosran22 Now you're speaking my language.
@Aggrofool 4 жыл бұрын
Cheery profile 😎
@quip3094 4 жыл бұрын
2:00 He said doo-doo.
@Ratcher. 4 жыл бұрын
sad you cant open it, a cheaper topre board with those replacements domes could of been the best topre board for less then a HHKBS
@joelseo 3 жыл бұрын
Can you play games with this? Or is it strictly for typing?
@enerjiCS 3 жыл бұрын
I have no issues playing CS:GO or osu! with this board.
@feedbacker 4 жыл бұрын
are there any topre clones for mac?
@laundry1799 3 жыл бұрын
The Niz keyboards have a mac mode
@pepperbean243 3 жыл бұрын
*NOTE: I have one and i found that the switches are NOT smooth.* Theyre smoother than MX Brown but rougher than Vintage MX Black. Theyre rough, but not scratchy, but if youre looking for Ultra-Smoothness than youre in the wrong place. Everything else about them feels awesome though, and they sound even better in person than in this video, especially if you get the full-size keyboard.
@BrianMcKee 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with this that they're not insanely smooth out of the box (though I'm sure lubing would help). However I don't notice it at all when typing at speed or while gaming like I can with scratchy linears. The feeling is overall great though and it's nice to type on such a soft keyboard.
@modernshinigamimanga 4 жыл бұрын
This looks exactly like my niz board but made from a different material.
@EpicTyphlosionTV 4 жыл бұрын
If you want some interesting keyboards to review that have that have clone switches, Redragon has a few ones with Cherry MX Blue and Brown clones. While some are advertised as having replaceable switches (they even include four spare switches in some of them), they have very specific circuitry that doesn't work with normal Cherry MX switches or even the clone switches that they use!
@virgovlog-vlog 2 жыл бұрын
Was looking for non contact switches keyboard and your voice is similar to Guy from the game Postal 2 😅
@TheBIOSStar 4 жыл бұрын
2:00 hihi, he said "doodoo"
@gbclab 4 жыл бұрын
I love this
@MadBoosterROTMG 4 жыл бұрын
ACtually sounds good
@PicaPollo 4 жыл бұрын
ye
@mirageiii3176 3 жыл бұрын
This goes to show that just because a keyboard or a switch is a clone doesn't automatically make it worse.
@mralive4699 4 жыл бұрын
Are they tactile or linear?
@Chyrosran22 4 жыл бұрын
They are tactile.
@Treblahkerns 4 жыл бұрын
Ayeeee. More Topre-ish.
@yannhk 4 жыл бұрын
ABKO AR87 is a monster tank model. I think you will like it personally.
@Chyrosran22 4 жыл бұрын
Looks pretty small to be to be honest xD .
@yannhk 4 жыл бұрын
@@Chyrosran22 haha yes, its size is compact, but it's ridiculously solid and heavy. I put it on my glass desk, and sometimes I worry if the desk surface will be broken suddenly. worth trying still.
@Spearra 4 жыл бұрын
@@yannhk Oh jesus I looked it up on Amazon. 8 pounds (3.6 kilos)?! Impressive for a modern TKL I gotta say XD
@Chyrosran22 4 жыл бұрын
@@Spearra That's...... not bad xD .
@shadowcore94 4 жыл бұрын
I've tried 65g and 45g NIZ, both being the older version, and they do feel nice, but I much prefer the HHKB. Sadly I don't like the HHKB layout and real topre boards are too overpriced for what they are. Nowadays I don't use either but the release of KBDfans hipro keycaps and the new HHKB might put another dent in my wallet :D
@KonstantinUb 4 жыл бұрын
“release of KBDfans hipro keycaps” Tell me more.
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