Advanced Game Analysis - GM Ben Finegold - 2014.01.29

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Saint Louis Chess Club

Saint Louis Chess Club

10 жыл бұрын

Grandmaster Ben Finegold presents a lecture for advanced players at the Chess Club and Scholastic Center of Saint Louis.

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@DWeirich76
@DWeirich76 8 жыл бұрын
Me vs. Ben Finegold: Ben lived in Michigan. I lived in Michigan (college in Flint) Ben lived in Belgium. I've been to Belgium. Ben is a grand master. I like pizza.
@abdirahmandama2061
@abdirahmandama2061 8 жыл бұрын
lol
@liver1865
@liver1865 8 жыл бұрын
+The Business lol
@Bigassboya
@Bigassboya 7 жыл бұрын
The Business Ben also likes pizza
@cartrinity
@cartrinity 7 жыл бұрын
The Business the sicilian is his favourite pizza
@zogzog1063
@zogzog1063 7 жыл бұрын
Nice. :-> (Ben might like pizza too?)
@ansonzachariah680
@ansonzachariah680 6 жыл бұрын
Even grandmasters miss king to b2.
@thekkl
@thekkl 9 жыл бұрын
He's so deadpan it took me a second to realize he was joking about Houdini suggesting resignation.
@TheClassicWorld
@TheClassicWorld 8 жыл бұрын
+Matthew Helm Yeah, I don't think it ever suggests resignation haha.
@coreydallmeyer67
@coreydallmeyer67 4 жыл бұрын
Hilarious when he talks about resigning so much.
@s.jackson4603
@s.jackson4603 10 жыл бұрын
ben finegold - finding things "uh terrible" since 1969
@fengardice
@fengardice 7 жыл бұрын
34:51 "In 19... 87, I was playing in the New York Open against Jay Whitehead, rest in peace, and... (he was alive then, when he played me)"
@matthewerickson2006
@matthewerickson2006 7 жыл бұрын
how am I just finding this guy? I like chess again now. Suspicious!
@xDMrGarrison
@xDMrGarrison 5 жыл бұрын
rawr!
@isithardtobevegan53
@isithardtobevegan53 4 жыл бұрын
Matthew Erickson very dubious
@matijaslat2100
@matijaslat2100 4 жыл бұрын
very
@samtesh2900
@samtesh2900 4 жыл бұрын
Just finding this guy? Terrible
@Spiritbro77
@Spiritbro77 10 жыл бұрын
I love GM Finegold's Lectures. He is highly entertaining.
@danielmanahan692
@danielmanahan692 10 жыл бұрын
Great lecture as always. Can't fall asleep with Ben's commentary. Entertaining and informative. the best way to remember a lecture. now if I can just remember all this for my games.
@hiddenlight5630
@hiddenlight5630 Жыл бұрын
Just wondering Are you alive?
@Bodyfcn
@Bodyfcn 10 жыл бұрын
Finegold is GOLD, the best.
@pgoedde
@pgoedde 10 жыл бұрын
more Ben pls !!!!
@amoebawithlegs1032
@amoebawithlegs1032 5 жыл бұрын
just imagine that Ben is perpetually eating pizza. while he talks, while he analyzes, while he moves the pieces on the analysis board, everything. Even when hes not eating pizza. everything he says will suddenly make so much more sense.
@MrSupernova111
@MrSupernova111 7 жыл бұрын
46:42. "What's the best defense for white?" "Kb2 [from h1]." "Yeah, I agree. That's probably the best defense." Hahaha
@gishena
@gishena 3 жыл бұрын
But your rook is hanging!
@Athenian888
@Athenian888 8 жыл бұрын
Lovable,educational,tremendously humoristic. :)
@liver1865
@liver1865 8 жыл бұрын
+Athenian888 Good, yes. Correct, yes. :-)
@GuanTones
@GuanTones 5 жыл бұрын
i have to give credit to the kid who played the first game for holding out so long.
@coreydallmeyer67
@coreydallmeyer67 4 жыл бұрын
I've never even met this guy, but I love him
@seanc457
@seanc457 9 жыл бұрын
Paul Whitehead was actually my first chess teacher back in ~1999. Never thought I'd hear his name again!
@fadilhabibidanufane9593
@fadilhabibidanufane9593 5 жыл бұрын
A draw by three repetitions of stalemate claim HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! Genius!
@xojeme
@xojeme 4 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂
@michaels4255
@michaels4255 2 жыл бұрын
"I don't have any good moves. Doesn't that make it a stalemate?"
@Womanizer1122
@Womanizer1122 8 жыл бұрын
haha this guy is like a semi comedian
@achintya4094
@achintya4094 5 жыл бұрын
First time I learned something looking at a fine gold lecture...
@williamjohnson6588
@williamjohnson6588 6 жыл бұрын
Holy shit! Iskandar went to my high school. I remember how he would win chess tournaments like the state chess tournament. Crazy to see him mentioned in a video series I watch so much.
@cmfox3
@cmfox3 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Ben for your instructional masterpieces. I very much enjoy learning from you. Rarrr! :)
@GrayzBDF
@GrayzBDF 2 жыл бұрын
Ben, you are GREAT at breaking things down . Thank you!
@TexasSizzle
@TexasSizzle 10 жыл бұрын
You are hilarious and awesome Ben! Keep it up brother.
@dwx982
@dwx982 10 жыл бұрын
Funny guy, I always find GM v's amateur games instructive. Thanks for the upload.
@misanthrop1958
@misanthrop1958 10 жыл бұрын
I adore you, Mr. Ben Finegold.
@svenpoelmans3688
@svenpoelmans3688 4 жыл бұрын
He played a move I expected, I couldn't believe it, that's deep
@robappleby583
@robappleby583 6 жыл бұрын
One of Ben's best.
@chessbrahh2068
@chessbrahh2068 Жыл бұрын
"Attack with all your pieces. And occasionally you should defend with some pieces too" -Ben Finegold
@nizziozaphaux4398
@nizziozaphaux4398 8 жыл бұрын
thank you very much, great lecture!
@RodrigoHerrera111
@RodrigoHerrera111 10 жыл бұрын
MORE BEN!!
@MrGarugui
@MrGarugui 7 жыл бұрын
Smart chess teacher. Thanks for sharing
@dmaster20ify
@dmaster20ify 7 жыл бұрын
Ben Finegold the boss!!! Been listening pure Ben Finegold since day.
@jaywolfenstien
@jaywolfenstien 5 жыл бұрын
Wait a minute! *I* miscalculate everything! Hooray! I think like a Grandmaster!
@johannorman3067
@johannorman3067 10 жыл бұрын
King to b2, lol. Thanks GM Finegold for another instructive and entertaining lecture and thanks to CCSC of Saint Louis as well.
@seheyt
@seheyt 5 жыл бұрын
Cracked me up. His response is so deadpan. 46:42 in case others want to find it
@geogeo3733
@geogeo3733 3 жыл бұрын
19:46 Ben Finegold discovered the wooden shield before QVC, he just stole his idea. I guess that's why Ben hates him.
@fisheatsyourhead
@fisheatsyourhead 3 жыл бұрын
lol qvc
@f.d.3289
@f.d.3289 Ай бұрын
damn so happy to fnd more Ben Finegold lectures :) not quite as charming as him teaching a bunch of kids but just as entertaining and informative.
@abielfletcher7662
@abielfletcher7662 Жыл бұрын
Love this guy teachings and jokes😂😂
@sardinhunt
@sardinhunt 3 жыл бұрын
"Ahhh... I didn't see king F2!" I lost it completely, I laughed for 10 minutes.
@Parthasorenchess
@Parthasorenchess 5 жыл бұрын
27:13 I have two bishops, two bishops and two bishops
@dmaster20ify
@dmaster20ify 7 жыл бұрын
Draw by three fold stalemate claim!!!
@kunalmandalia1165
@kunalmandalia1165 9 жыл бұрын
Rotating GM! :D
@siavashs1925
@siavashs1925 6 жыл бұрын
amazing simpson`s reference, I think that was from season 2. old quote! Lisa Simpson:" Well, a blockaded bishop is of little value, but I think you are referring to a pawn."
@Shylopaul
@Shylopaul 10 жыл бұрын
Awesome.
@joeybtheman1906
@joeybtheman1906 6 жыл бұрын
Love this guy!
@sanjaywagh9943
@sanjaywagh9943 10 жыл бұрын
Bens lecture are toooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo good
@albertvaldez2669
@albertvaldez2669 4 жыл бұрын
A half chess master and a half comedian. I like Ben!!
@leavethebasket7435
@leavethebasket7435 7 жыл бұрын
ben has analyzed the first game before in the kids class.
@MrSilencetreatment
@MrSilencetreatment 7 жыл бұрын
30:00 after Black playing Rb8, can white play Rxg4? if black plays hxg4 then Nd7 works as it is equal material and the a pawn woulod be hanging, so it works for white anyway. I am not sure because I haven't got a computer engine to analyse this. Any suggestions? I would appreciate it. Thanks in advance and thanks Ben , you are the best teacher ever.
@iDeathSparky
@iDeathSparky 2 жыл бұрын
It's so weird to hear "Let's call a random student" and not have it be followed up with "You!" or "Arjun!"
@augustgreig9420
@augustgreig9420 7 жыл бұрын
Okay, here is a perfect example of something I always wonder about.At 13:42, if the knight on f2 was somewhere else, say h3, would black come out better to play 1....Nxe4 2.Bxe4 Nxc4+ 3.Kc3 Nxa3. I know that white can play Rxc4, but not only does that look bad for white, it is besides my point. Are the 3 pawns worth the night? You leave white with anisolated d pawn, and black has 3 passed pawns.
@L4rken
@L4rken 10 жыл бұрын
This is very entertaining! And I also think I learned something :)
@tothepoint4080
@tothepoint4080 2 жыл бұрын
best teacher
@draganaivankovic345
@draganaivankovic345 8 жыл бұрын
Can you do a video about austrian defense please?
@toelloev
@toelloev 10 жыл бұрын
"Kb2 is probably the best move, yeah" hahah
@liver1865
@liver1865 8 жыл бұрын
toelloev Super funny. Garenteed to keep you awake and in your chair(not in bed!)
@vasya5006
@vasya5006 7 жыл бұрын
31 he said its a the correct move but what if knight went to D7 forking both castles
@paulomartins5071
@paulomartins5071 7 жыл бұрын
31:36 after Rb8 white to move Rxg4 if (gxf4 Nd7 Ra8 Nxf8 Kxf8 white slightly better) else (Rxb6 Rd4 white slightly better) though this line is tricky with time trouble because the game will require a lot of moves.
@dylan2009ist
@dylan2009ist 10 жыл бұрын
Ben is great :)
@orangebetsy
@orangebetsy 5 жыл бұрын
What is the program being used here, where you can make proposed moves, see the resulting position, then return to the original position?
@STLChessClub
@STLChessClub 5 жыл бұрын
Orange Betsy ChessBase!
@SampleMehard
@SampleMehard 6 жыл бұрын
At 31.11 what's wrong the bishop e2? That's the move I blurted out when he ask. Some.one correct me and show me why plz
@j.prt.979
@j.prt.979 6 жыл бұрын
Jeff Stelling No, that’s not the problem. The real reason why Be2 doesn’t work is because of Nd7 forking both Black rooks now that d7 is crucially undefended by the Bishop. It actually took me a moment to find that too because I knew that if Rd2 in response to Be2, then black would just move the bishop to b5 (which led to me finding Nd7 responding to Bb5 which led to me seeing that the Knight could go to d7 immediately instead of the useless in-between move Rd2). It’s a little sad too, because Be2 just looks so cool to play as it stops both Rc4 and Rook A takes a6 with a very invasive looking minor piece move. :p
@sylver76
@sylver76 5 жыл бұрын
31:00 sequence. Did Ben overlook the fork on D7? Or am I missing something?
@kerseykerman7307
@kerseykerman7307 5 жыл бұрын
Bishop would just take the knight on D7.
@ill-fire85
@ill-fire85 9 жыл бұрын
queen h4 is a good move because after rook to g2 queen can sack on h2 when rook takes back its mate on g1 with the rook
@D3ck3rCain
@D3ck3rCain Жыл бұрын
How do you find gold? With Benjamin’s
@nikhilmalik62
@nikhilmalik62 2 жыл бұрын
what is the name of the song in the intro?
@mangeshmodak
@mangeshmodak 8 жыл бұрын
at 43.57 instead of doubling rooks what if whit plays 1)N*e5 Q*e5, 2Nd7 .....forking rook and queen and then taking rook on f8
@stevenhang9990
@stevenhang9990 8 жыл бұрын
at 31:03, is it possible for white to go Rxg4 with a fork Nd7 in mind when hxg4?
@morallygray6527
@morallygray6527 5 жыл бұрын
@jmoneyy1984 Not if you played Rxg4 lol then there's no bishop defending d7
@user-ts3ij7te6j
@user-ts3ij7te6j 5 жыл бұрын
He plays rxb6
@ill-fire85
@ill-fire85 9 жыл бұрын
what about defending the a pawn with bishop e2
@daleking8654
@daleking8654 8 жыл бұрын
f**k kb2 is such a good move... (cracks me up haha)
@gcgrabodan
@gcgrabodan 4 жыл бұрын
What is the story of Ken Wesley? 0:50
@RossFigurepaintingCoUK
@RossFigurepaintingCoUK 5 жыл бұрын
Someone please put out of my misery as I cant find the mate 45 minutes in when g2 x f3. If white defends with his Q he seems to end up with a solid defence and a good queen sided attack supported by the knight. Ben says its mate and he is never wrong but I cant see it!! E.g. g2 x f3, Rg8; Qb4 Qg7; Qe1. Doesnt that stop the mate? Even if black gets a rook to g2 cant white just ignore it? White maybe needs the Q on d1 to cover the knight sacrifice and he can just sit it out while he pushes his Queen side pawns supported by the knight. All black's pieces are now tied up out of the game. What move have I missed for Black? I've been looking for ages and its driving me nuts. Loving your lectures Mr Finegold and you are slowly draggin me out of retirement. Thanks.
@aaronhowe3725
@aaronhowe3725 10 жыл бұрын
"Women." Lol. Great instructive video trumped by comedic wit!
@agnelaaron1728
@agnelaaron1728 5 жыл бұрын
I’m sorry but what’s between KEN west and finegold? Any reason why he keeps picking on him?
@antoniofcovacamansilla8460
@antoniofcovacamansilla8460 10 жыл бұрын
this guy rocks
@12jswilson
@12jswilson Жыл бұрын
Finegold channeling his inner Kasparov at 11:05 with Bd8 as in Ivanchuk v Kasparov, Linares 1991.
@baoboumusic
@baoboumusic 5 ай бұрын
Seirawan has also played this in several games and calls it the billiards shot if I remember correctly: bishop to the bottom cushion.
@12jswilson
@12jswilson 5 ай бұрын
​@@baoboumusic my joke was that Kasparov got crushed in that game with useless bishops, although the light square bishop was on e8, not c8. Probably the worst Kasparov has ever been beaten.
@baoboumusic
@baoboumusic 5 ай бұрын
@@12jswilson I'd forgotten about that! Be8 was an admission of failure - must have been painful to play. I definitely do remember the tournament though. Chukkie's best result ever. Beat Kasparov, Karpov, Kamsky, Anand... It looked like the end of the Kasparov era and the start of a new era - it wasn't quite that but his achievement was one for the ages.
@12jswilson
@12jswilson 5 ай бұрын
@@baoboumusic playing Be8 and Bd8 is fine if you're just rerouting them a la Yasser. If they stay there and never move, I'm betting on the other guy. I don't care if you are arguably the greatest player to ever live.
@omgpuppet
@omgpuppet 5 жыл бұрын
This man is the Rodney Dangerfield of Chess
@camreese
@camreese Жыл бұрын
19:35 wow forking two pinned pieces thats actually a new one for me
@Jan123.
@Jan123. 4 жыл бұрын
Nice!
@MrSabachtani
@MrSabachtani 9 жыл бұрын
Wait... There is a Simpsons Episode about chess and I haven't seen it? What's the name of the episode?
@Majora1988
@Majora1988 9 жыл бұрын
It's the season 2 episode "Dead Putting Society" Its just a line in the episode, its about Homer and Flanders getting competitive over a mini golf tourney.
@TheMrKlowb
@TheMrKlowb 9 жыл бұрын
Josephus Mutzenbacher Bart: Hey, Lis, what do you call those guys in chess that don't matter?Lisa: Well, a blockaded bishop is of little value, but I think you're referring to a pawn.Bart: Right, I am a pawn.Lisa: I know. It's times like this I'm thankful that Dad has little to no interest in almost everything I do.
@tutucox
@tutucox 3 жыл бұрын
best gm
@TheBackyardProfessor
@TheBackyardProfessor 5 жыл бұрын
You are awesome! Yes, it strokes your ego, but so what? You are awesome. I enjoyed this video very much, thanks man.
@sublimeade
@sublimeade 8 ай бұрын
Why are comments open on Ben's game but closed off on that foxy GM"s game?
@gaming2top759
@gaming2top759 8 жыл бұрын
Good sense of humor :D
@maxpower9175
@maxpower9175 3 жыл бұрын
This dude is hilarious!
@upplsuckimcool16
@upplsuckimcool16 3 жыл бұрын
29:43 anyone know why the knight is the only defense for A6? Ben says it's the only thing that defends A6.... what about rook A8 or Bishop E2? EDIT: ok maybe not rook to A8.... whoops ;D Also, bishop E2 would stop his rook to C4.... I must be missing something, there is no way that's too sneaky for ben to see, and I'm sure he's analyzed it with the computer.
@eduardoayala3204
@eduardoayala3204 2 жыл бұрын
That's a beautiful position oh my god
@thankyouthankyou1172
@thankyouthankyou1172 5 жыл бұрын
Ben is so funny, I love his tutorials
@yahya89able
@yahya89able 6 жыл бұрын
8:38 I take ur rook making a queen lool haha
@gxfr795
@gxfr795 3 жыл бұрын
‘Ah I missed Kf2’😂😂😂😂😂😂😭 like it was a refutation to the whole line
@lesterlesoine9225
@lesterlesoine9225 5 жыл бұрын
Can you please provide the pgns for your avanced game analysis at the st. Louis chess club especially the game that appears the 10:34 ticker in the 50 minute video. It lcooks like an mirrored tit for tat stonwall defense. What is the opening called. Another chess player on KZfaq from the midwest 3jbenett on lichess is alsoan otb chess player at his checlub & regional tournament play. He gives live commentary durig his matches about his moves as well as his opponents He can tell within a few moves that is sicilian dragon variation, which openigs start out as a queen gambit accepted orva queen gambit declined. In the live game he seems to know on thevfly. This opebing becoms transposed into another opening with movinh a certain piece or a combination of moves. He suggested that I get modern chess openings by waler korn. Modern chess openings a blue book. They have openingsvwith a table showing a myriad of subsequent moves. The last book i bought in this vein was fundamental chess openings. I have fritz 15 &16. Ibwould love an app that has the counter noves to;the sicilian, kings Indian etc
@tomzhangg
@tomzhangg 6 жыл бұрын
20:05 I think that’s called the dirty doubling doodler
@sheikmanzoor5003
@sheikmanzoor5003 9 ай бұрын
In parallel universe Ken East is a super GM
@anastasissfyrides2919
@anastasissfyrides2919 6 жыл бұрын
that pin was hilarious
@SleekMouse
@SleekMouse 3 жыл бұрын
43:34 would rook takes h2 be a good move here?
@daiwikschannel5864
@daiwikschannel5864 3 жыл бұрын
No
@JohnnyBrutalUSA
@JohnnyBrutalUSA 10 жыл бұрын
Aren't those half open files instead of open files? Great video. Ben Finegold is the best, but he has never beaten me.
@TexasSizzle
@TexasSizzle 10 жыл бұрын
why because you haven't played him much?
@liver1865
@liver1865 8 жыл бұрын
mcpartridgeboy it's Carlson okay?
@philipbourgeois6631
@philipbourgeois6631 Жыл бұрын
Far out, some of these checkmates are so technical
@gnomemaster456
@gnomemaster456 9 жыл бұрын
at 31:30 why cant the knight go to D7 and attack both rooks?
@VulpineShine
@VulpineShine 9 жыл бұрын
bishop takes it
@ronaldvl636
@ronaldvl636 9 жыл бұрын
VulpineShine I wonder if after ...Rb8 (attacking the white knight on b6) Rxb4 is good for White - if axb4 then the knight on b6 can jump to d7, forking the black rooks and if ...Rxb6 the white Rook can move back to d4 or c4.
@jamest4189
@jamest4189 Жыл бұрын
He randomly mentions Andrew Tate's dad Emory 22:41
@tellahsage6477
@tellahsage6477 Жыл бұрын
Emory Tate's a pretty famous player, most in chess know him. Saw his name mentioned in several books too
@12jswilson
@12jswilson 5 ай бұрын
​@@tellahsage6477there's a funny game between Emory Tate and Ben where Ben crushes him with the black pieces in about 20 moves. I want to say it was in ~2004. But yeah Emory Tate is probably one of the most notable chess players to never become a grandmaster, at least in the US.
@ISHITINYAFACE
@ISHITINYAFACE 10 жыл бұрын
Kinda felt with him, when he made the simpson joke.
@jasonofathens2254
@jasonofathens2254 4 жыл бұрын
23:23 "..women", i spilled my milk
@gmstuart4897
@gmstuart4897 5 жыл бұрын
Thats me!
@buddytevepaugh8525
@buddytevepaugh8525 5 жыл бұрын
DAT BIZ SNATCH CrAzZy luv ya man
@svfox
@svfox 7 жыл бұрын
fun vid
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