Exchange Sacrifices | Garry Kasparov, Anatoly Karpov - GM Ben Finegold - 2013.07.10

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Saint Louis Chess Club

Saint Louis Chess Club

10 жыл бұрын

GM Ben Finegold explores the exchange sacrifice in a 1994 game between GM Garry Kasparov and GM Alexey Shirov, a game between GM Anatoly Karpov and GM Ulf Andersson and another game between Karpov and GM Veselin Topalov. This is an advanced lecture presented to a live audience at the Chess Club and Scholastic Center of Saint Louis.

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@Kabitu1
@Kabitu1 6 жыл бұрын
Does a lecture on positional long-term exchange sacrifices, manages to turn it into a comedy routine.. I swear to god this man is a treasure to chess.
@sergiopascual981
@sergiopascual981 8 жыл бұрын
"King E8... setting up for the next game" Great line.
@johnstephen399
@johnstephen399 8 жыл бұрын
"Shirov has an excellent record against Kasparov. He didn't want to blemish it by ever winning." Haha.
@blankplanet
@blankplanet 7 жыл бұрын
Haha.
@gana7206
@gana7206 3 жыл бұрын
Haha.
@MKWiiLuke4TW
@MKWiiLuke4TW 5 жыл бұрын
I've watched this lecture probably 20 times by now and I just keep coming back, this plays like a comedy routine so well.
@anybodykill6666
@anybodykill6666 3 жыл бұрын
I've seen this lecture 3 or 4 times and I always find information I missed. Tooth hurts.
@jackismname
@jackismname 2 жыл бұрын
Same… Its borderline weird.
@AG-ld6rv
@AG-ld6rv 8 ай бұрын
As of 9/14/2023, Stockfish 14 with NNUE says the Kasparov exchange sacrifice is +0.8, about a pawn up for white, at depth 33.
@bartholomewlyons
@bartholomewlyons Жыл бұрын
This aged like fine gold
@s0mewhereintime682
@s0mewhereintime682 8 жыл бұрын
ben is fking hilarious and he kinda grows on you..at first i didnt like him so much but after 2-3 vids i cant get enough :P
@KillianDefaoite
@KillianDefaoite 7 жыл бұрын
me 2
@levsedmak8324
@levsedmak8324 5 жыл бұрын
HOW TRUE! I JUST CAN'T GET ENOUGH OF SWINEGOLD EITHER! HIS JOKES ARE SO GOOD I CAN'T STOP LAUGHING! EVEN NOW! AHAHAKRAAAHAHAHA!
@PigsNLemons
@PigsNLemons 5 жыл бұрын
"swinegold" holy shit hah
@cristiangamboa2037
@cristiangamboa2037 4 жыл бұрын
IT was the same for me.
@kensanity178
@kensanity178 2 жыл бұрын
I dont agree that he is hilarious. He is ignorant. Not funny. Chess, not ignorance, ok?
@dangelobenjamin
@dangelobenjamin 10 жыл бұрын
Great lecture. Ben Finegold makes for a good chess teacher.
@missjessgem
@missjessgem 9 жыл бұрын
GM Ken West approves of this lecture
@garyheaton3983
@garyheaton3983 8 жыл бұрын
I'll never forget it :-)
@kensanity178
@kensanity178 2 жыл бұрын
But Kanye West does not. He's too damn dumb to play chess.
@juliafloridausa
@juliafloridausa 2 жыл бұрын
00:59 Garry Kasparov vs Alexey Shirov, Credit Suisse Masters (1994), Sicilian Defense: Lasker-Pelikan. Sveshnikov Variation Chelyabinsk Variation (B33) 13:33 Anatoly Karpov vs Ulf Andersson, Milan (1975), Sicilian Defense: Paulsen Variation. Modern Line (B44) 26:20 Anatoly Karpov vs Veselin Topalov, Linares (1994), English Opening: Symmetrical. Anti-Benoni Variation Spielmann Defense (A32)
@JohnSmith-yd2cu
@JohnSmith-yd2cu 10 жыл бұрын
Bens rating dropped below 2500. I hate when that happens!
@TipoQueTocaelPiano
@TipoQueTocaelPiano 9 жыл бұрын
1-That always happens 2- That happens even quicker when you get a job as a teacher 3- Ben is sure very far from his best shape. And I don't mean only his chess shape.
@alansong4754
@alansong4754 8 жыл бұрын
hahahahaha---3.
@kensanity178
@kensanity178 2 жыл бұрын
It never was over 2500.
@Cowmilker98
@Cowmilker98 2 жыл бұрын
@@kensanity178 he was 2563 at one point. The last time he was over 2500 was mid 2016. Obviously he's not been competing very much for quite a long time now anyway
@zyaffee
@zyaffee 8 жыл бұрын
"and he gets the dark squares ooOOooh"
@drdwitte
@drdwitte 10 жыл бұрын
Thx alot for putting these videos online, they are really great!
@dehanbadenhorst1398
@dehanbadenhorst1398 4 жыл бұрын
What a legend! Best chess educator ever. He makes the lecture fun(ny), and keeps it very instructive
@dwx982
@dwx982 10 жыл бұрын
Another entertaining lecture by the 40 year old GM. Many thanks.
@DMK000
@DMK000 10 жыл бұрын
If you're down the exchange and the game's almost equal, I would call that a successful sacrifice.
@beeble2003
@beeble2003 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I was surprised when Finegold said the computer didn't think much of the exchange sac because it gave a score of almost zero. If the computer doesn't like your exchange sac, it scores it -2 or worse. Any time it says you're about equal when you're down on material, that means you have a ton of compensation and you're in a good place and, typically, your opponent has to play very accurately to maintain that near-equality. I'm sure Finegold knows all of this!
@kensanity178
@kensanity178 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a chess player. I make a sacrifice if in my analysis I'm going to gain some positional advantage. Judging positional advantage should be the kind of thing Finegold is teaching. Not comedy.
@georgehornsby2075
@georgehornsby2075 4 жыл бұрын
5:34 How did a dolphin get into a chess lecture?
@romainleonardy9380
@romainleonardy9380 8 жыл бұрын
Black weaknesses on the light squares makes up for the saced quality :) Love this match so much, watched on it several times :)
@Mrius86
@Mrius86 7 жыл бұрын
When you're ahead, get more ahead. When you get more ahead, get more aheader. Then lose on time like a gentleman/lady.
@kensanity178
@kensanity178 2 жыл бұрын
It's not a sin to lose a chess game. But too lose on time is dumb. Cant you see your opponents clock?
@armanigayle1018
@armanigayle1018 9 жыл бұрын
Mr finegold u always give the best and most instructive lecture u are a great teacher
@bcfblack
@bcfblack 3 жыл бұрын
Interestingly, lc0 finds 17. Rxb2! almost instantly and says it is the best move! stockfish doesn't find it on its own, but after you play the move, even it agrees now. Guess this Kasparov guy was pretty good!
@manmoth_1990
@manmoth_1990 2 жыл бұрын
Rxb7*
@HT-rq5pi
@HT-rq5pi 9 жыл бұрын
Who does the "advanced lecture" target (approximately what ELO rating would it correspond to)
@edwardalexandercrowley42
@edwardalexandercrowley42 9 жыл бұрын
When I first saw GM Finegold he reminded me to an enemy of mine. He's been so mean to me. So I got a prejudge against GM Finegold, but really liked his lecture, very pedagogical style, the way he points out things are so good, that even a child would get something of all the exposition. Very understandable material, very fine. And the theme was so important. Excellent job!
@kensanity178
@kensanity178 2 жыл бұрын
Surely you jest.
@xDMrGarrison
@xDMrGarrison 5 жыл бұрын
Wow this was really cool
@pfsloan8230
@pfsloan8230 10 жыл бұрын
Great humor!
@PhysicsMathMan
@PhysicsMathMan 6 жыл бұрын
5:30 was that a dolphin?
@Blunderful19
@Blunderful19 4 жыл бұрын
Regarding the sacrifice, the real trick is the distance black's knight needs to travel in order to challenge white's on d5. The deceptive proximity ordeal is an important concept for beginning players to understand.
@BalladCreek
@BalladCreek 10 жыл бұрын
Nice Job Didn't know Luca Brasi Gave Lessons LOL
@kensanity178
@kensanity178 2 жыл бұрын
What? You didnt get the dead fishes? It's a Sicilian message, Ben's comedy sleeps with fishes.
@mpeterll
@mpeterll 10 жыл бұрын
at 33.04, what happens if Rd4 instead of Qd6? White cannot move the knight, and he has no more checks.
@Maddolis
@Maddolis 10 жыл бұрын
Ne4, Qb6, Qxd6+ etc. I just put it through Fritz, it's roughly .6 worse than Qd6.
@emir2591
@emir2591 8 жыл бұрын
This is the best chess grand master ever
@ganjalfthegreen1574
@ganjalfthegreen1574 8 жыл бұрын
what did he say at 33:14?
@vasilimici1032
@vasilimici1032 9 жыл бұрын
@8:05 I think Nd7 is pretty good for white. After the only answer Qa7, then white can castle and his game is actually good actually he might be slightly better than black because of the knight on d5.
@Lovuschka
@Lovuschka 7 жыл бұрын
9:30 Instead of playing the knight to e8, I think Q:g6 immediately wins as well in a more beautiful way.
@manmoth_1990
@manmoth_1990 2 жыл бұрын
Nice spot
@caesarsailor4051
@caesarsailor4051 Жыл бұрын
RAWR!!! 2023!!!
@RaidingPig
@RaidingPig 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder, what happens if you put stockfish play against itself (or some super grandmaster) in the position after the sacrifice? Has anyone tried that?
@mpeterll
@mpeterll 10 жыл бұрын
oops, typo. Meant Rd6.
@CraigPendlebury
@CraigPendlebury 10 жыл бұрын
Ben should be doing standup Chess Comedy
@kensanity178
@kensanity178 2 жыл бұрын
To play chess, or to pretend to play chess. That is the question.
@lightcoreproductions1666
@lightcoreproductions1666 8 жыл бұрын
what's the name of this software?
@STLChessClub
@STLChessClub 8 жыл бұрын
ChessBase 12.
@SkopeeProductions
@SkopeeProductions 6 жыл бұрын
At 5:35 I think I heard a dolphin.
@georgehornsby2075
@georgehornsby2075 4 жыл бұрын
Damn, I was two years late to that joke
@sooooooooDark
@sooooooooDark 7 жыл бұрын
25:50 - 26:15 made me lol 10 sec irl
@JoeDidIt
@JoeDidIt 5 жыл бұрын
4:40 i would have shouted "AFTER"
@Mrius86
@Mrius86 7 жыл бұрын
The king is permanently weekend. Right, Arjen?
@gbop7859
@gbop7859 8 жыл бұрын
At 11:48 why didn't he play knight c7 check and then queen f7 mate..??
@yanair2091
@yanair2091 5 жыл бұрын
Nonsense, Queen can't play f7, there's a pawn on g7.
@casualmajestic9223
@casualmajestic9223 5 жыл бұрын
Setting up for the next game hahahhahahagaha 11:07
@rb5955
@rb5955 5 жыл бұрын
karpov got 11/13 in the linares 1994
@abhimaansnair5554
@abhimaansnair5554 2 жыл бұрын
Rxb7 is really intuitively
@renehenriksen1735
@renehenriksen1735 4 жыл бұрын
Big Ben is always precise when beating grandmasters.
@Neueregel
@Neueregel 10 жыл бұрын
Good
@renehenriksen1735
@renehenriksen1735 4 жыл бұрын
DIIIINGGGG!! DOOOONGGGG!!
@whatever0mate
@whatever0mate 10 жыл бұрын
10:30 "He's so mean"
@DaRza17
@DaRza17 10 жыл бұрын
lol i said the same thing in every video of him BEN IS THE MAN !!!!
@alansong4754
@alansong4754 8 жыл бұрын
16:25 "The king is weakened" I guess when he said "king", he meant karpov
@danielmanahan692
@danielmanahan692 10 жыл бұрын
Ben is a funny guy.
@kingmcgregor6052
@kingmcgregor6052 8 жыл бұрын
At 30:25 Finegold curses
@ViniciusGuitarGuy
@ViniciusGuitarGuy 9 жыл бұрын
At 31:40, after white plays Rd1, can't black safely play Bf2+ and take the rook?
@ViniciusGuitarGuy
@ViniciusGuitarGuy 9 жыл бұрын
Octo Pusish Oh, I see now, thank you.
@perkalov
@perkalov 9 жыл бұрын
Bf2+ isn't working for said reason, but c4 or Qxb2 might?
@ViniciusGuitarGuy
@ViniciusGuitarGuy 9 жыл бұрын
perkalov Houdini says C4 is +2,41 for white (Bd5 and if you take f2 you are -5 after Kxf2)Qxb2 is +2,41 for white after Bb7
@perkalov
@perkalov 9 жыл бұрын
Vinícius Borges Well, obviously white is better, it came as no surprise :P In theory White have material compensation as well as a better position. The point would be to find a better option then Qxa6 as in the game or Bxf2+ as suggested earlier.
@ViniciusGuitarGuy
@ViniciusGuitarGuy 9 жыл бұрын
perkalov The best continuation is Rf8, then white is a pawn and a half ahead. White is probably winning no matter what.
@Puffstuff23
@Puffstuff23 7 жыл бұрын
26:58 Doesn't g5 win a bishop?
@uzoge
@uzoge 7 жыл бұрын
I'm not really a strong chess player, but I think after g5, white can play g4 to win the knight as a compensation. if Ng7 then the black bishop now has a safe square, and if Nf6 then the bishop not only has a safe square but it can also capture g5. btw I might be wrong.
@maizenblue2441
@maizenblue2441 6 жыл бұрын
The h5 knight's hanging
@michaelhumphrey2858
@michaelhumphrey2858 10 жыл бұрын
What is some good software for a beginner not trying to be a GM just get decent!
@TheMarkODonohue
@TheMarkODonohue 10 жыл бұрын
A chess book.
@LouisReed
@LouisReed 9 жыл бұрын
Fritz Chess 13 - www.amazon.com/Viva-Media-V01001-Fritz-Chess/dp/B00604IFBQ
@beeble2003
@beeble2003 3 жыл бұрын
For a beginner, it doesn't really matter. You just need something that will run through your game and point out the tactical errors, and any engine can do that. And, for now, ignore any suggestion that changes the evaluation by less than about 0.5 -- essentially, it's saying "Well, this move is better, as long as you then start playing like a grandmaster" and you're not gonna do that. (Yes, I know this comment is six years old, so you're probably not a beginner any more. But maybe my response will be useful for somebody else.)
@newmedtner
@newmedtner 2 жыл бұрын
5:34 🐬
@KillianDefaoite
@KillianDefaoite 7 жыл бұрын
5:53 why not ...a4 here for black?
@oldmanyellsatscreen
@oldmanyellsatscreen 6 жыл бұрын
Old comment I know, but i think white's threat after a4 is either knight to b6, winning the pawn.
@2phil4u
@2phil4u 9 жыл бұрын
second game, white makes mistakes after the sacrifice, with an accurate move, hes far in front.
@victor6010
@victor6010 4 жыл бұрын
I also know how to make exchange sacrifices but it doesn't work
@kensanity178
@kensanity178 2 жыл бұрын
As soon as you learn to analyze who has a positional advantage, you will know when to sacrifice. Look at the 'game of the century'. Its not clear, but Bobby knew he had a solid position advantage and it was set up by the queen sac on move 17.
@gunnarandersen6570
@gunnarandersen6570 2 жыл бұрын
25:35 "Man, Ivanov, I don't want to say anything on the camera - He's the biggest cheater ever!" What happened to not saying anything on the camera 😂
@RexNunc
@RexNunc 8 жыл бұрын
f3 ? Terrible!
@TrulyVerity
@TrulyVerity 2 жыл бұрын
Always sac the exchange
@Badbishop4point3
@Badbishop4point3 9 жыл бұрын
People underestimate the value of a bishop because the value of controlling a diagonal is not valued properly. A bishop can challenge a queen on a diagonal while a rook cannot. Rook 4.6 Bishop 4.3 Queen 9.0 "Chess Secrets The Value Of The Pieces" on you tube. Great video, thanks Mr. Finegold.
@galacticstorm854
@galacticstorm854 8 жыл бұрын
Well, a rook can challenge a queen on a rank/file while a bishop cannot, and last time I checked, there are 8 ranks and 8 that both have 8 squares to control, while there are only two long diagonals, both only 7squares. Sorry, but it should be Queen: 9.0, Rook: 5.0, Bishop, 3.1, Knight 3.0, King, 3.5.
@Badbishop4point3
@Badbishop4point3 8 жыл бұрын
See my video "Chess Secrets The Value Of The Pieces" and then make an informed decision. Thanks for your comment.
@damianocarraroli254
@damianocarraroli254 6 жыл бұрын
My Diametrical u are silly
@akerbeltz1233
@akerbeltz1233 8 жыл бұрын
Why does he cheat? I didn't know about it until this moment.
@Fetrovsky
@Fetrovsky 7 жыл бұрын
33:32 Why not Rd1+, Qc6+, Rh1 (check if not mate) and comtinue to harass the king until mate? The bishop can possibly be taken too.
@fenzelian
@fenzelian 4 жыл бұрын
Daniel Jesús Valencia Sánchez Bishop takes rook
@cyxFrag
@cyxFrag 8 жыл бұрын
Aaaaand controling b6 ? Terrible.....Horrible
@ravszee
@ravszee 10 жыл бұрын
is this guy a comedian or a grandmaster
@Thaumazo83
@Thaumazo83 4 жыл бұрын
Both! :-)
@jamezdizzle23
@jamezdizzle23 8 жыл бұрын
Ben Finegold , a great chess player, a terrible comedian. haha... jk we love you Ben.
@kensanity178
@kensanity178 2 жыл бұрын
I agree. Obviously knowledgeable about chess, not funny. Show us a game where you're a piece down, but you have two connected passed pawns. Show us the correct way to win a game like that.
@adamrubinson6875
@adamrubinson6875 10 жыл бұрын
lmaoooo
@kshitijsharma759
@kshitijsharma759 4 жыл бұрын
20:47 😶
@warrior4christ777
@warrior4christ777 9 ай бұрын
Bteo..... ishop to e 1 BTEO beteo means bite off y teeny toe...
@1234macro
@1234macro 7 жыл бұрын
"But that's a porn night"
@alansong4754
@alansong4754 8 жыл бұрын
i cant believe there actually 6 disikes. there should be like, -1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
@kensanity178
@kensanity178 2 жыл бұрын
Ok, I'll add another right now!
@dominiquebutterfly2486
@dominiquebutterfly2486 7 жыл бұрын
Terrible vs Horrible Even though these two words are used interchangeably, they are not synonyms. In fact, their meaning are quite different. Simply put, horrible is associated with a feeling of outrage; while terrible is associated with a feeling of dread or terror.
@Roflcopter4b
@Roflcopter4b 7 жыл бұрын
If they're used as synonyms then they're synonyms. Language is not prescriptive. However people use it is what is correct.
@kensanity178
@kensanity178 2 жыл бұрын
In my opinion Ben qualified to be called both.
@alansong4754
@alansong4754 8 жыл бұрын
lol
@TheMyrtos
@TheMyrtos 9 жыл бұрын
3min "Terrible...Horrible"
@NekysAcherontios
@NekysAcherontios 5 жыл бұрын
LOL i can stand right here, all blacks pieces are over there. Instant classic
@kamon9339
@kamon9339 7 жыл бұрын
.... checkmate is annoying
@kensanity178
@kensanity178 2 жыл бұрын
And final!
@filthyfilter2798
@filthyfilter2798 8 жыл бұрын
too american for me xD
@zacharycat
@zacharycat 6 жыл бұрын
Bb7 and Nb8 just looks ugly. Usually black plays 0-0, Bg5 and meets a4 with ba4 and Rb8.
@boatsandhoes4381
@boatsandhoes4381 3 жыл бұрын
Finegolds pistol
@kensanity178
@kensanity178 2 жыл бұрын
Finegolds Folley.
@hemptime123
@hemptime123 8 жыл бұрын
how do you even cheat in chess? ..lol...
@arbitterm
@arbitterm 8 жыл бұрын
Wireless communication with someone operating a chess engine to recommend the optimum move.
@theo7371
@theo7371 8 жыл бұрын
+arbitterm But where to hide the receiver? Aren't they checked for gadgets before the matches?
@arbitterm
@arbitterm 8 жыл бұрын
Usually, yes. The one case I read about used a tiny earpiece which is very popular amongst certain students (i.e. those cheating in exams). A walk-through airport detector would not find it, and a hand-operated scanner would need to be set to high sensitivity and directly scan the ear. Plus, the device could always be planted at the scene in advance.
@kensanity178
@kensanity178 2 жыл бұрын
The way I've seen used most frequently is when your opponent makes a move that isnt legal or possible. You sit there in shock wondering what to do.
@evamakarski8590
@evamakarski8590 3 жыл бұрын
The venomous diaphragm additionly lock because colony distally gather during a ethereal clipper. pale, perpetual command
@kensanity178
@kensanity178 2 жыл бұрын
Yes I Etherealy agree with that.
@lopakhan5972
@lopakhan5972 3 жыл бұрын
The chunky danger differently blush because fibre theoretically relax following a many dinghy. known, gleaming fiction
@kensanity178
@kensanity178 2 жыл бұрын
My fiber is always gleaming like a dinghy.
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