Can we retest with 5950x?

@@HuntaKiller91 I took his 5950x

What the crap is going on? :)

meistrimeez ur mom hahahhahahahahaha jk

Sup heir

Now here's a person I did not expect to find here lol

Please is it possible to tell me how would Asrock B550M Pro4 Motherboard Micro ATX compare to BIOSTAR B550MX/E PRO , considering both have the same price?

some very special snowflakes

wait nooo you canr just not paint it red yellow and blue all at the same time

@QuantumOverider Since 2008 they are separate companies.

besides their highest end board, is it really a loss? meh

Taichi is the only board of theirs worth considering and as I personally will never support MSI or Asus ever again, I have to hope Gigabyte keep up the good work on the higher end stuff. As for GPU's GD do I wish EVGA made AMD cards, I know Sapphire and Power Color are considered to be really good, but EVGA always manages to impress in terms of quality/noise/longevity for me at least.

yea if you followed Buildzoid x570 coverage, that pretty much applies to b550, minus features here and there, hence why he hasn't done anything really much with b550.

@@olo398 well he made this: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/n86XabuCzte7Z3U.html

I did a bunch of research and landed on the MSI B550m Mortar (the non wifi one, I don't need wifi).. The VRM design is the best I could find on an matx board, I think the same as the ones featured here. The machine is built and running, and I am happy to report I am very satisfied. I went mATX for the reduced size and because I found a case I really like. (Silverstone RL08) In short, I am happy with the MSI board.

dude i bought this mobo i cant believe it has such a horibble vrm. i saw x570 model and it was really good thats why i bought this but now im regreting. But for now i have no problem at all with this mobo

Hahah

I am planning for ASUS Prime B550M-A AM4 PCIe 4.0 DDR4 (4600 O.C.) 2X M.2 USB 3.2 Gen2 mATX Motherboard with Aura Sync RGB Support should I stop buying I want to pair with ryzen 5 3600 and gtx 1650 super twin 4gb ram gddr6

@@revanthkumar560 buy the bazooka

Wish I could've avoid but at the time this was the only b550 available. I'm regretting it.

Hello. What did you mean bazooka blew it out of the water ? İ have 5900x and considering to buy b550m bazooka

@@Werthas Hi, I was referring to Steve's play-on-words. :)

@@Werthas I personally wouldn't buy any B550 board for 3900x, let alone a much more power hungry 5900x, as the 5000 series is not as efficient as the 3000. that being said, the ones they tested in this video were supposed to be the budget options. i use that term loosely as the MSI Bazooka is not exactly a budget board, it's part of the Tomahawk family which is some of the best boards they make. still the fact that some of these boards were able to handle a 3900x at all says alot, that means there more than good enough for the Ryzen 5 3600 or Ryzen 3 3200G, 5600G, 5600X. i think the Ryzen 7 3700x, 3800x and 5800x might be a little too much for these boards. the MSI B550M PRO VDH WIFI is the one that impressed me the most, but the Asus Prime board getting hotter than the rest despite costing more doesn't surprise me that much. because they always tend to cost more, but it's people and tech reviewers are the one's that tend to overrate them alot. i had a couple Asus boards over the years, and never had too much trouble when i had a i7 3770k on a Asus Prime Z77. i didn't do much overclocking, but i rarely saw temperatures go above 70 degrees Celsius. maybe Asus was better in the past, but i had one on a Core 2 Duo way back in 2007 when i first got into PC, and it worked flawlessly. that said i do seem to have better luck with Gigabyte than MSI, i had a MSI board when i upgraded to the i5 6500 Skylake, and i had lots of problems with it. i got a Gigabyte board when i upgraded to first gen Ryzen, and now on my second Gigabyte board with Intel i5 11400.

Please is it possible to tell me how would Asrock B550M Pro4 Motherboard Micro ATX compare to BIOSTAR B550MX/E PRO , considering both have the same price?

@@Jeymez Hi bro! Im buying a gaming pc, and am thinking of buying Ryzen 5 5600 and combining it with Giagyte B550M aorus pro ac, and also puting a rx 6600 xt, what do you think about this? I rrally worry about motherboard, is this gigabyte bests one for 5600 out of all this budget ones.

They already angry after Asus tuf a51 laptop review

@@falcon3169 Maybe they shouldn't make such garbage products. Lol. Am I right? Or am I right? Lol!

@@Olie956 yeah...it's 2020 and still laptops are running like microwave owen

@@falcon3169 I was thinking more like a regular oven. I hate these thin designs they always try to go for rather than the older, more efficient, desktop replacement designs that were big, beefy, and had decent cooling going on as well as made it very easy to clean. Yeah they were heavy, yeah they were big, but man you got what you paid for and it was WORTH it.

@@falcon3169 don't forget strix 5700 xt thermal problem

Given ASRock and MSI shenanigans I'll probably be getting the same

"Budget" mini-itx boards seem to have disappeared in the recent years. I hope they return soon.

@@xygnal yeah, since many people nowadays look for portability

@@falcon3169 Same with me. Once I realized I could have a case like node 202 with all that performance, there was no going back!

At the moment the budget ITX board space is basically the ASRock B550M-ITX/ac, which I am told has a pretty decent VRM.

@@misterthegeoff9767 MSI B550 itx have better vrm i guess.

And B550 prices should drop too, so ;)

@@Saigonas *sad early adopter noises

Wow, that bazooka! :o

Same, same. All-in with Ryzen 4000 and (depending on Price/Performance) Nvidia 3000 or Big Navi card. In preparation for cyberpunk 2077 (and because I can and want to)

@@ThomasPerl yeah. Same. Mostly preparing for Cyberpunk 2077 and some games that I'm looking forward to.

+1

Isn't 1080ti is in 2070 super league? It performs at around 5700xt-2070super level.

@@niar69 Nah, rtx was weak on release so instead of 1080 ti being similar to 2070, it was more similar to 2080.

@SonnieSlim thats why even 5700xt beats it in like 30% of games?

One thing next gen Nvidia cards are RTX 21 series not 3000 if you saw their twitter you will understand what I mean

Nothing new..

Asus is just a company with shitty products living on no longer deserved reputation.

Asus often has either crappy quality, or overpriced for no reason.

Asus also butchered their 5700XT (TUF) . They reallyyyyyyyyyyyy don't like AMD.

MSI is waybetter than ASUS in most motherboards.

looks good too, especially with even expensive white builds

Clearly because the people in Malaysia know the true value of the boards

Lmao Malaysians will always go for value xD

here in Indonesia, Asrock B550M Pro 4 is cheaper than gigabyte UD and any msi board (the cheapest is B550M HDV which isn't recommended because of no heatsink) 😅

Hope this b550m bazooka enters our market..seem like a good option other than b550m mortar

@@mohdhazwan7706 b550m bazooka is using 4 phase vcore while b550m mortar is using 8 phase vcore so for ryzen 9, using b550m mortar is a better choice.

same

Instead of taking that criticism and improving their product based on the feedback, they decided to be 5 years old again

This seems to be a common malady in some marketing department people, whether they're at Asrock, Asus, MSI or Disney. MSI even tried to bribe and theaten people into making better reviews, which is worse than blacklisting. The engineers and product specialists are usually cool and reasonable people.

Reminds me of the verge drama

@@castlebear199 Type A personality business flunkies without proper PR or legal training and poor supervision trying to make a sale at any cost. Too bad the company is still liable for the actions of their employees, and poor supervision is not an excuse.

Well, there's a lot of older PC builders who trust Asus blindly, because they remember the days when Asus was more closely correlated with quality and value (I know some of these people, they want Asus, and they don't care about reviews). Nowadays, Asus is just charging extra because they can get away with it, though that doesn't explain why some of their products have been so bad. Remember people, don't trust ANY of these brands. Always check reviews for your exact model before buying. They can put out great products at one point in time, then 6 months later they could be releasing some of the worst products (or both bad and good ones at exactly the same time). Some of these brands have been worse or better on average, but all of them have released either crappy products or over-priced products on multiple occasions.

@@syncmonism Yeah. I have an Asus TUF B450M-Pro Gaming, and I'd love to say that I bought it after watching Buildzoid's review where he gave it a grudging "OK, if you're using it for APU or 6-core, max", but in reality, I looked at the features I wanted and then went with a brand I recognized. AFTER buying it, I googled around a bit and realized Asus/TUF didn't mean much of anything any more. Which made me wish I'd gone with Gigabyte, which wasn't a good reaction neither. If you can't find a review from a trusted reviewer, don't buy the board. If Harbour Untox'ed and Gamer's Nexus don't have a review, but ReallyGoodReviewsInc have a glowing one, that's not a review - that's an advert. Don't fall for it.

Yeah on amazon the reviews for the crosshair x570 say don’t hesitate it’s a great price! When there’s an x570 MSI board for 150 US dollars less than the crosshair but had all the bells and whistles

If you want to use ASUS, you have to buy the Rog Strix model, for extreme price all in their products(graphics card, motherboard, ect.) So I recommend MSI motherboards, and Gigabyte graphics cards.

Asus has the best bios and stability. Been using them for 20 years. Abused the hell out of them sometimes with huge static electric shocks or bending or overheating and they always impressed me how they make my lazy mistakes into a non-issue. Great quality from Asus.

I bought that shitty brand once. Changed to Gigabyte and never had any issues since. Asrock is a low lever crap brand in my eyes.

@@DanielFrost79 I don't think the same, i bought my fist board from asrock the z170 extreme 4 and it was great in terms of vrm temps,bios was easy to use,even tho this was the first pc i ever made i oced my 6700k to 4.5ghz easy and memory to 3.2ghz. After that ,i moved to z370 i got the asus prime A and even tho my cpu only pulled 5watts more than the 6700k the temps on vrm were noticeable higher 10-15c higher or more.Now i am on asus x570 prime p and in terms of temps it's very good with a 3700x, bios on the other hand... had a lot of problems with it to the point i gave up on ocing and just stuck to undervolting and memory oc. No manufactuerer makes the best products all the time, they make duds from time to time,often intentionally.That's why reviews are very good in helping us decide what to get.

While I find the blacklisting disappointing, I think that as long as the engineers did their job right, I will forgive ASRock for their marketing department. The B550M Pro4 caught my eye before, and I'm happy that it got good results.

Also, if you make such decisions based on companies' marketing department, far as I can see (based on what I remember) Gigabyte is the only choice. ASUS has threatened legal action against bad reviews (including against Hardware Unboxed) and MSI both threatened and tried to bribe reviewers. So ASRock certainly isn't the only one with a bad marketing department.

@@syrynx4454 Exactly. Thanks for a proper response. I agree. I have not tried an AMD cpu for the last 4 years so i cannot say how they are. Last one i had was the FX8350, yeah i know, the fake octa core which in fact was a quad core. But still. If you have issues with a brand and change brands andd dont have any issues, ofcourse you're gonna stick to the one who aint giving you any issues. That's just how it is. 🖖👽

Aged terribly

@@dhxft 😆

It's certainly informative, but I was disappointed there was no mention of efficiency (power draw), and possibly some basic performance figures using cinebench/blender.

yes, that tech guy from gamers nexus really embarrassed himself. He didn't test it or even have it, but based on specs (in his opinon) it was utter garbage and would burn up. Nobody should believe that guy's opinion's in the future

@@IDKOKIDK are u referring to buildzoid?

@@royjacob5197 Yes he did a video on 550m boards on hardware nexus channel and said the vrm's were terrible

@@IDKOKIDK Lol are you talking about Buildzoid? The guy who's an *a*ctually *h*ardcore *o*verclocker? If so, his channel is Actually Hardcore Overclocking (AHOC) and is _the_ authority on mobo power delivery; from IC part names to memory traces. Whatever he said likely holds truth but from a different frame of reference. For example these temps aren't good, but it's a budget board, so that matters less. Still not great for higher end CPUs and overclocking, though.

I don't know wait, i thought the pro 4 was on BZ’s list of recommended $120ish mATX board? With m aorus pro and ds3h

The best board is obviously B550M Aorus Prime unless of course you would like the Asrock B550M Pro4 or maybe the B550M Bazooka or obviously the MSI B550M Pro-VDH Wifi. Dang Stiggy four boards is going to cost me a lot of money! :)

i bought that mobo for 113 €, just a fucking noice mobo for price performance vrm .......................

Yeah, but those are "cheap" B550 boards. B550 Tomahawk, B550-A Pro, and some other more expensive boards seem to have hugely overkill of a VRM for current Ryzen CPUs - and that is an understatement! I have a feeling that thay know something :) and 4000 is going to be big, either in terms of overclocking or in performance by default.

@@bonfingertip exactly, I went with the b550 tomahawk because I get the feeling the 4900x and 4950x are going to be monsters that will be more than enough for almost anything for the next 6-10 years if/when I need to upgrade a CPU. There's already a hard time justifying things like a 3990x because nothing right now exists software side to really utilize it. Not to mention the current threadripper Pro that is easily the best CPU in existence. It definitely feels like the current gen threadrippers were designed with rendering programs of the future in mind. Lord knows what the 4000 series threadrippers will be like, they're already mini server CPUs as it is. I have a 3900x and I don't think I'll need anything past that for at least 4-5 years so having a next gen option even if I don't get it anytime soon is wonderful. The 3900x is already amazing for engineering so a 4900x will be godly and ready to tackle whatever software side updates applications like CATIA, Autodesk or Solidworks have for years. Just as long as you've got the cooling ready for it lol.

@@Rippedyanu1 So I'm not alone in thinking that way :) I agree, 3900x and 3950x already seem robust and future-proof enough for their price, and I can only imagine what could be that more poverful to require that much VRM. I just hope the new Ryzen CPUs won't cost too much because of that.

5950X running on less energy lol The mobo makers are trying to sell you more than you need for more than it's worth, as always

asrock made some shitty motherboard ? well, just blacklist 2 of the best PC reviewer on youtube, what could go wrong ?

weird since their board did pretty good!

@@vadergrd They didn't do that well with intel boards tho, arguably worse than asus with amd actually

Both GN and HU have spoken about it, including recently with the MSI/TechTeamGB controversy. Happens all the time, even to big channels. If memory serves me correctly Tech Jesus said they were on Gigabyte's shit list atm. Seems like a regular occupational hazard for proper reviewers.

You're acting like a crybaby. Won't buy product from them, because they blacklisted your 2 favourite youtubers? It's just stupid. If the part is good, just buy it.

asrock are clowns for that one lol

@@zululvivon8224 Especially considering their b550 board is a good board according to the results in this revoew.

Blame their marketing team. Too bad for their designers and engrs making the products as their B550 line up are getting good reviews but getting less exposure because this blacklisting.

Does anybody actually own an assrock MB?

@@Chordsmythe I own a Asrock B450 pro4 and I'm quite happy with it, the VRM is almost as good as a B450 tomahawk and it has 7 USB ports. Only downside is that it only supports up to 3200 mhz RAM which isn't much considering most MBs these days do around 4800mhz RAM.

Glad I brought one a few weeks back.

Just like mortar

Bought one for my 3600 and I'm pretty pleased with it.

This mobo have argb suport ?

Gigabyte's mosfets are trash. One went for "just good enough" with cheap-as-chips mosfets while the other did their job with proper engineering and got away with much less. I saw on an overclocking forum both the B550M Pro4 and Aorus M Pro are rated safe up to 125A on ambient, same as the Bazooka and Pro_VDH. Aorus Elite M is at 100A only. Considering the maxed out 3950X at 1.36V and 200W in the video pulls around 140-150A.... It is a little above their pay grade but nothing some good airflow can't fix - this is where a good heatsink comes into play. And Gigabyte decided to put plastics all around it ... Funny thing is B550M Mortar is rated at 200A, lol. Next video is gonna be interesting.

X570 Prime and Z490 Prime are good

B550-f gaming: Am I a joke to you?

Tuf gaming B550 plus and b550m plus are excellent boards that you can find for a good price (120-140€ on amazon.es).

Crosshair VIII Hero was great

@@pranav3848 I like mine. And as far as I've found it's the only x570 board with the diagnostic numbers in a place I can see them.

The small youtubers are the ones that would want to keep the products, hardware unboxed and gamers nexus are big enough to not sell out, they did multiple videos about not selling out...

Confused here as on their last round up they gave the aoras pro a good review. This is the aoras pro m. Think it's smaller. Is this enough of a difference or discrepancy?

Hi dude. I have already ordered this motherboard too, plans are only for the new 4000 6/12, my case is not the most ventilated. In general, I would like to know how it works for you with r7 3700x . Is there an unpleasant effect on temperatures in a computer case? And what about the stability of bios, memory overclocking in general? I am from Russia, it costs 9200 rubles ($123) with us, including delivery, the question is interesting, how much did it cost you? I will very much wait for an answer, it will be very pleasant to read it!

@@FieryFlash to add to my previous reply the aoras pro and the pro m are very different. Which is yours?

@@nito_gocni5460 B550m

@Adithya R Lol no the fuck its not if your only going to list one number and not both it should be average temp. The size of temp spikes varies by hardware, their not maintained, its not an accurate running temp, the only reason we care about peak temps is for avoiding fatal errors and performance issues it may cause, unless you also cite wether or not the performance changed at the time of the peak that numbers only there as a sort of bonus tip, and if your only going to list one number it shouldnt be the one thats effectively just a fun fact

i hope you wont get an MSI Board(Product) either, a lot of companies f up

Yeah. If they blacklist someone who shares honest review then they are not worthy of our trust

ikr im shocked, even going as far as suing people, honestly I would love to see all big tech youtubers just straight up boycot them out of solidarity.

Honestly, you should just buy the best product you need

@@zululvivon8224 a companies ethics matter mate, its a slippery slope too

MSI boards are so awesome

I dont think there are any ATXs in that price range, maybe 1

i have a b450m steel legend in one of my pc's :( nah but seriously i only bought it cuz at the time it provided me the best value for what I needed. Luckily i havent been plagued by the countless issues I always read about on reddit and im even running two different brands of RAM on xmp (albeit same speeds and timings), even though everyone advised me against it. Knock on wood and fingers crossed that it doesnt pop a cap on me by next year though lol

But i mean it performed decent? It’s even higher than the aorus pro

My Bazooka failed on me a couple weeks ago - during a thunderstorm, mind you, so I doubt it was the board's fault. Going for the Asrock Pro4 this time around due to what was available. (Didn't realize that was the naughty brand that blacklisted you, but too late now) Hoping it lasts.