AI KataGo vs Yeonwoo 3handicaps i admit you are god of GoㅣGoproYeonwoo

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Go Pro Yeonwoo

Go Pro Yeonwoo

4 жыл бұрын

I played against KataGo with 3 stones handicap
I tried my best but..
Enjoy it! :D
#Katago #Goai #GoproYeonwoo
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@Uberdude1985
@Uberdude1985 4 жыл бұрын
"I'm not as weak as you think, but I'm very scared" :)
@uw10isplaya
@uw10isplaya 4 жыл бұрын
17:36 strength of a pro! "If here becomes thick then I need to do this exchange." Sad she forgot! :(
@zimmicks3170
@zimmicks3170 4 жыл бұрын
Shockingly logical gameplay from katago - it just doesn't care about what you do.
@sebastianp4023
@sebastianp4023 4 жыл бұрын
I really like how much you explain your thoughts. It really helps to understand what you play.
@ewalltom
@ewalltom 4 жыл бұрын
The program was always one move ahead. So good at leaving aji and keeping sente.
@user-qn9ku2fl2b
@user-qn9ku2fl2b 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Yeonwoo I love your personality... Awesome game, too bad Katago's so strong! Being French the Eiffel towers in the back do ring a bell I hop you enjoyed paris!
@specialk1287
@specialk1287 4 жыл бұрын
It was helpful hearing your thought process! Thank you so much! Hopefully I will get better ! ;p
@CristiNeagu
@CristiNeagu 3 жыл бұрын
2:32 Because, for now at least, AIs don't have overarching strategies. They analyse the board and find the move that gives them most territory. That's why they keep jumping all over the board. A human player might want to resolve a situation in one part of the board before moving elsewhere (as long as it is in sente), but an AI decides that it can come back later to that position and cover gaps. I think that we will see this kind of behaviour in professional play in a few years, since a lot of people these days are improving their skills by watching how the AI plays.
@greenUserman
@greenUserman 4 жыл бұрын
This is an amazing channel! Thank you for the videos!
@kaoz256
@kaoz256 4 жыл бұрын
Great commentary! I'd love to see more.
@Chable5
@Chable5 4 жыл бұрын
this was so funny :D really like this kind of videos!
@CristiNeagu
@CristiNeagu 3 жыл бұрын
Was entering this in KaTrain as i was watching the video and it thought that you were ahead by 1.1 points when you resigned. It was very informative watching what the engine was recommending.
@lawrencea66
@lawrencea66 2 жыл бұрын
Your videos are so helpful!
@PasseScience
@PasseScience 4 жыл бұрын
With you there are now 3 professionnal female players doing AI challenge (The AI challenge "team": Cho Yeonwoo, Kim Yoonyoung, Lee Ha-jin). Thank you for doing that! Are the male players chickenning out ? Too proud :p ? I am quite sur you know some professional friends to challenge to do so! :)
@Bladavia
@Bladavia 4 жыл бұрын
"I'm gonna give you a Divine Move, Lee Sedol's Divine Move... Have to wedge ! *tak* It's a resigning move...."
@decidrophob
@decidrophob 4 жыл бұрын
1:30 The approach here is really very surprising. At least in traditional Japan, the approach from the live restricted area like the left top has been considered by far the smallest.
@darekk7459
@darekk7459 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly what I thought after this move, it doesn't look for the biggest one since white has no big potential at the top. I would rather expect the aproach from the other side.
@vedAntony
@vedAntony 4 жыл бұрын
I think Katago just thought 3 handi is nothing and it will win in any case. So confident!
@paulschmit4480
@paulschmit4480 4 жыл бұрын
Just wanted to sneak view for 5 minutes but then couldn't stop watching until the bitter end, what a thriller!
@HrishikeshMuruk
@HrishikeshMuruk 3 жыл бұрын
Here I am, a DDK, playing regularly against Katagom with no handicap 🤦🏽 and losing badly of course
@iamjimfan
@iamjimfan 8 ай бұрын
The narrative of your thought process is very, very useful
@petervankoughnett802
@petervankoughnett802 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for putting this up :) I'd love it if you posted a video on the 3-4 6-4 enclosure. I struggle to know how and when to invade it.
@fredsmit3481
@fredsmit3481 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! Please do more.
@andyrenshaw9148
@andyrenshaw9148 4 жыл бұрын
Haha you made me jump 31.28 :)
@nektomike
@nektomike 2 жыл бұрын
Great game, also great commenting. Your doing pretty well, thanks a lot for your channel.
@vedAntony
@vedAntony 4 жыл бұрын
HI Yeonwoo, nice try! Thanks for the video. I think it would be very interesting and useful to review this game with Katago, with Katago! Let's see what it "thinks" about the game
@chosgo9726
@chosgo9726 4 жыл бұрын
Great Game! It's very challenging to win KataGo with 3 stones handicap though.
@TysonJensen
@TysonJensen 4 жыл бұрын
I feel better about losing to these bots at 5 and 6 stones on my laptop. I can’t even beat an iPad anymore. I find those same moves so irritating! Thanks for showing a pro thought process for how to handle it.
@Turtle1631991
@Turtle1631991 4 жыл бұрын
One thing that astounds me here how many of KataGo moves are the kind that is really hard to answer and you have trouble finding move that you can really like. Basically every response I can imagine feels deficient in some way...
@ShiShiBaduk
@ShiShiBaduk 4 жыл бұрын
AI Sensei commentary: ai-sensei.com/game/N5ybPjWhcKPQmxgus39W5r0OnS33/-M3XdtO26wZAofS6a0xQ
@kj01a
@kj01a 4 жыл бұрын
That hat is metal af 🤘
@JaimeCordeiro
@JaimeCordeiro 4 жыл бұрын
I opened an account at FOX but I was wrong to inform my level, more or less 4kyu at KGS, at FOX I ended up entering as 3DAM and I can't change or go to another room where there are players with my level. It is a little malleable server. I love watching your games here on KZfaq.
@pHiL0matH
@pHiL0matH 4 жыл бұрын
Awwww dont cry 🥰🥰
@jRoy7
@jRoy7 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah Leela Zero has no real handicap support/knowledge, and only knows the komi it is trained with. Katago has special training to handle handicap situations and also understands komi and score. :)
@uw10isplaya
@uw10isplaya 4 жыл бұрын
13:13, when reviewing, and seeing how big W got around that area later, do you think going under is better than jumping? Or some other way to play the corner instead of extending at 13:59 and having to tiger's mouth at 16:15? Or everything is very satisfactory until not making the exchange before the peep at 30:19? I like your hat!
@gaieepo.jeffrey
@gaieepo.jeffrey 4 жыл бұрын
what is the setup / config of your katago? fix time or fix playouts, hardware config, weight version? Thank you!
@aureldln7072
@aureldln7072 4 жыл бұрын
So tough!! after w R13 at 13:27 -->Yeonwoo's is getting really irritated by Katago ^^
@user-longtingfan
@user-longtingfan 4 жыл бұрын
May I ask what computer hardware are you using (CPU and GPU) to play Katago?
@iphgfqweio
@iphgfqweio 4 жыл бұрын
probably higher mid range. why is it important? Even on a cheap laptop it will be stronger than you
@hippophile
@hippophile 4 жыл бұрын
One mistake. One little big mistake is all it takes... I play katago on 2 stones and win less than half the time with lots of little mistakes... or one or two bigger ones... and yes it kills anything that moves! So many big semeais I lost by one move... Oh, and that is 2 stones on 13x13 :))
@UrbanNilssonOssian
@UrbanNilssonOssian 4 жыл бұрын
Even with very good moves, katago improves by a fraction of a point until it's over!
@thembamabona9809
@thembamabona9809 4 жыл бұрын
...quite surprised about invasion at 9:57 while bottom left and bottom right under threat. What was the idea?
@goblack3661
@goblack3661 4 жыл бұрын
What settings are you using for Katago?
@Rpetrescu10
@Rpetrescu10 4 жыл бұрын
What graphics card do you use ?
@MidnighterClub
@MidnighterClub 4 жыл бұрын
Yeonwoo has best hat.
@unfixablegop
@unfixablegop 4 жыл бұрын
Katago says black was still ahead by 7 points. :-)
@NukaColaQuantum
@NukaColaQuantum 6 ай бұрын
What a pretty lady.
@mathda
@mathda 4 жыл бұрын
What's your computer setting?
@sebafigueroa_shabad_yoga
@sebafigueroa_shabad_yoga 4 жыл бұрын
no coffee for the game?? :D
@kaiwang2924
@kaiwang2924 Жыл бұрын
But you are goddess of Go.
@krisztiankoblos1948
@krisztiankoblos1948 11 ай бұрын
There is a Hungarian girl too Kőszegi Diána. She learned in Korea and won against Kim Deukkyu (8p).
@Funaru
@Funaru 4 жыл бұрын
What software do you use to play KataGo?
@goproyeonwoo
@goproyeonwoo 4 жыл бұрын
sabaki
@jRoy7
@jRoy7 4 жыл бұрын
I think it's also compatible with Lizzie. :)
@DogPigGo
@DogPigGo 3 жыл бұрын
God ai go 라고 한큐에 있는데 5점에 한큐9단상대로 95퍼이상 승률 내는데 ㅠㅠ 하 인공들 너무잘둬요 wryz라는 인공한테 4점에 5판 박살낫음 오늘 ㅋㅋㅋㅋ
@kyalvidigi1398
@kyalvidigi1398 4 жыл бұрын
Where can i download this version katago? I want to play with this ai badly.
@iphgfqweio
@iphgfqweio 4 жыл бұрын
google is your friend
@vegahimsa3057
@vegahimsa3057 3 жыл бұрын
Is KataGo stronger than the retired AlphaGo?
@MelindaGreen
@MelindaGreen 7 ай бұрын
I thought you had a chance to kill the left side near the end. Regardless, please take another handicap stone until you win. The bots will only get stronger, so the handicap will be how we measure the gods of go. There is no shame.
@icyb1ue344
@icyb1ue344 4 жыл бұрын
31:20
@tomau3946
@tomau3946 4 жыл бұрын
This was an object lesson on how to lose a game to an opponent three stones stronger. Apart from the opening sequence in the upper left, Yeonwoo consistently strove to defend territory, particularly in the corners, thereby continually ceding the initiative to the AI. In "Breakthrough to Shodan," Naoki Miyamoto shows the way to win three and four stone handicap games. Let the strong opponent equalize in territory, take thickness in return, and win the middle and endgame on greater thickness. You make this greater thickness by connecting your groups, so the stronger player can't "divide and conquer." This means giving up one or more corners, and playing "high" so that most of your stones are center-facing.
@olorinkeu
@olorinkeu 2 жыл бұрын
AI is good in moyo breaking, it actually can divide and conquer almost any moyo, so the corners and definite territory are the last and maybe only hope.
@danielbriggs991
@danielbriggs991 9 ай бұрын
Yeonwoo is more than six stones stronger than those shodans who have internalized that lesson, and God o' Go was more than two stones stronger than world champions already at this time, so I doubt that a blanket statement like this could apply. But it's still worth hearing for us sdks.
@darekk7459
@darekk7459 4 жыл бұрын
It looked to me that you were playing good moves but Kata was always one step ahead, it's just a magic. How many playouts has Katago you are using? I play with Katago here: katago-gui.herokuapp.com/ but it has ''only'' 256 playouts, I guass your version has much more.
@CCoraxTV
@CCoraxTV 4 жыл бұрын
The site is updated :) Now you can use 20block 256 playout( very strong, can give 3dan players 5 stones! ) or 40block 1000 playout (too strong , can give pros 1-2 stones and suffer them !!)
@tuananh284220
@tuananh284220 4 жыл бұрын
Feels like you are playing poker, not Go!
@pastequeman
@pastequeman 4 жыл бұрын
Aren't you too passive in your approach with that monster?
@HoloBoss
@HoloBoss 4 жыл бұрын
Do you wear that hat when playing progames?
@goproyeonwoo
@goproyeonwoo 4 жыл бұрын
of course! not haha
@ssp4648
@ssp4648 4 жыл бұрын
How to download kata.go
@newsupermichal
@newsupermichal 4 жыл бұрын
github.com/lightvector/KataGo/releases
@iphgfqweio
@iphgfqweio 4 жыл бұрын
on google.com
@chageek
@chageek 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Yeonwoo. Katago is an awful opponent.
@semyonNomis
@semyonNomis 4 жыл бұрын
It's all because you invaded the 3 point extension. You should have continued to play calmly)
@RamHomier
@RamHomier 2 жыл бұрын
How can I play against katago? Is it a program I can download and have on my computer or does it need a super computer?
@johkonut
@johkonut 4 жыл бұрын
:(
@trung12ly
@trung12ly 4 жыл бұрын
do you think some top pro can beat katago in even game?
@newsupermichal
@newsupermichal 4 жыл бұрын
no human will ever beat any top level AI anymore
@vegahimsa3057
@vegahimsa3057 3 жыл бұрын
@@newsupermichal we can dream. Well, AI will get better faster, but we can still hope a new youngster will defeat Master/Alpha Go (2018)
@TuckerDowns
@TuckerDowns 2 жыл бұрын
No. Katago is better in even games than any human will ever be. The age of humans being the top go players is over.
@Bisqwit
@Bisqwit 4 жыл бұрын
Not the best advertisement for your pro skills (don’t take this too seriously, we do realize the bot is very strong), but very entertaining nonetheless! Thank you for uploading it.
@paysonfox88
@paysonfox88 3 жыл бұрын
Do you think Yeonwoo, that you could beat Shin Jinseo on 3 stones , or could you beat him on 2? I Think He's close to Katago's level.
@swiftattorneyservice4310
@swiftattorneyservice4310 4 жыл бұрын
I think you don't play like your normal self. You should play like you. Not aggressive as usual. Relax?
@mrg6495
@mrg6495 2 жыл бұрын
Are you Single?
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