*Update* If you’d like to read more on the leaks, sourced from AvP Galaxy: www.avpgalaxy.net/2024/03/13/exclusive-spoilers-how-alien-romulus-connects-to-the-prequels-the-original-alien/

In Hollywood everyone can hear you scream.

Personally I loved Prometheus and Covenant and wish they would continue it

Remember that a lot of these supposed "leaks" could just be the studio floating shit out there to see peoples reactions and then edit accordingly.

The cost of creating a CGI Ian Holm would be astronomical and, in my opinion, total waste of cash. I find that rumour highly unlikely.

Dang Nick you just made my weekend!! Thank you. This sounds all kinds of weird. I heard a rumor a while back that the film was possibly going to be a take on Alien Isolation. That would have been awesome. I don't know if they will mention David, or the survivors from Covenant. Closure would be cool.

The black goo never acted different, it is pretty easy to understand if a brain is used

It is always great to see an upload from you. I am optimistic about this. Prey was also pretty fun.

And here I thought this movie was supposed to be its own thing, a stand-alone story in the franchise. I honestly don't know how I feel about Romulus being tied-in with the original "ALIEN" (Which feels like an unnecessary connection), and I absolutely despise the idea of there being a tie-in with "Alien Covenant". If there was ever a movie that showed how Ridley Scott's success with "ALIEN" probably came as much if not more from the people he worked with as anything else, "Alien Covenant" would be it. I'd much rather "Alien Romulus" remain its own thing with its own "unique" story (At least as unique as you can get rehashing the same tired tropes over and over...).

I just don't understand why they didn't make another entry to wrap up the prequels. They could've easily tied them together. I would've based the whole thing on W-Y finding the Covenant drifting around. It's a trap set up by David as he has impregnated a shit-ton of cryotubed colonists and has continued his experiments for years while drifting around in space. As he's running out of hosts and the Covenant for whatever reason is stuck in space, he reveals his position, but not to the Company at first. Instead he tries to lure in space truckers and smugglers and whatnot. He needs more hosts and spare parts, and he doesn't want the Company, competitors or the USCMC, to be involved...yet. As a plot twist, David has uploaded himself into the Covenant ship as his body was severely messed up after an altercation with one of the xenomorph specimens on board (alluded that it's the xenomorph birthed from Daniels or Tennesse). Needless to say, David is hoping that whomever he lures to the somewhat derelict Covenant, will also bring one or several synths with them for him to use as spare parts. Not only one, but two clueless smuggler/trucker crews/ships come to investigate the Covenant. David fools the first crew to repair his body while pretending that he is the Covenant ship AI; the crew synth is just a simple Working Joe type of synth, and thus he manages to talk the crew into using their Joe's body to repair him. They agree after David covertly releases a few xenomorph specimens loose, then to present himself to the crew as the only one who can save them. David, now with a functioning body to download himself into, releases more xenos, and it doesn't take long before the whole crew is gone. The last survivor of the crew decides to drive and crash their ship into the Covenant rather than trying to escape as he/she realizes that he/she has already been impregnated (David taunts him/her over the com, claiming that he - David - lying that he knows how to extract the embryo inside the surviving crew member through surgery). The Covenant is now severely damaged with thousands of xenos gone (or floating in space). David however is now back inside his body (a creepy mishmash of his former self and Working Joe spare parts). He tries to contact the Company this time, but all means of communications have been destroyed. David is completely cut off. Luckily for him the second lured in crew of smugglers/truckers arrives. These guys however are apparently proffesional criminals and only see David as something they can sell on the black market. They loot Covenant wreckage in an effective and efficient way, which (the Covenant) has suffered from several subsequent explosions, rendering it into a floating heap of debris. Several of the looters are killed by drifting xenos as they get greedy and overstaying their "welcome" after they find vats with facehuggers. Two of the xenos make it on board the looters' ship. David is indirectly freed by the two xenos, and with his help the surviving members of the looter crew is killed, while one of the xenos is jettisonned into space with together with two of the looters. David programs the looters' spaceship destinations for where the Romulus is located. Together with the xeno, plus a bunch of vats with facehuggers inside, David sets off. Triumphant, David thinks that he's safe from the surviving xenomorph on board, despite what happened to him on the Covenant several years ago. He names the xeno Walter, talking to it through the video feed. He decides to study its intelligence instead of trying to kill it, or trying freeze it and harness it for later studies. David notices that the creature is becoming more and more aware that it is being studied and that the machinery in its environment is a part of that. David is intrigued by Walter the Xeno and decides that he wants to "teach it tricks". Maybe Walter the Xeno will be easier to control and groom than Walter the Robot? Walter the Xeno is indeed a quick and fast learner, and exceeds all of David's expectations, and it isn't until it's too late that David realizes that Walter the Xeno has outsmarted him. Walter traps David and kills him - not just killing him, but completely tearing him to pieces. Walter the Xeno enters hibernation while drifting onboard the looters' ship into W-Y territory. The Romulus station is in for a treat... Instead of the unrealistic prospect of W-Y finding Big Chap drifting around in space, they could've just had an "updated" xenomorph version from David's xeno strain be the progenitor of the xenomorphs onboard the Romulus. I also LOVE the idea of David studying xeno intelligence just to be outsmarted by it, just like he outsmarted the humans and the Engineers. It would've also been a nice touch if David started to realize that it WASN'T his (David's) fiddling and experimenting with the black goo that created the Xenomorph - it was the Black Goo's inate formula and nature that lead to the "end product", which is the Xenomorph we all know...

The morality of resurrecting a deceased actor is highly questionable. A male leading protagonist would be a breath of fresh air and not be unwelcome in the alien franchise considering how absurd some of the female protagonists have been in the sci-horror genre recently.

I wouldn't be surprised if the team on this new station is using David's research from Covenant, if they are extracting and experimenting with the Black Goo. He did send them the creepy communication that was an extra on the Blu-ray, so this is how we might discover David's fate after Covenant without the need to do another prequel installment.

I’m at the stage now that I believe they need to reboot this entire franchise !!

2:25 They would never be able to "recover" the Alien from the first film. Space is to vast it would be impossible to find. That would be like telling someone "Hey go find this specific grain of sand for me... it's somewhere on Earth good luck!"

If they have permission from Ian Holm's estate to use his likeness and if the estate is getting some residuals then I do not see an issue with it. Some actors might find it great to be able to continue acting and continue getting paid even after death. If they are going to do this, I'd assume the estate has already given the go-ahead. Using AI could make the character look a little bit uncanny valley which will work well for an "artificial person".

Big chap got torched by the narcissus' engines on screen though...

Can’t wait for this flick! Thanks for the new info Nick.

I was a little shocked you gave such detailed spoilers here, I wasn’t expecting that. I almost regret watching this video. Oh well, I am really looking forward to this movie. I hope it does really well.

I recognize your voice Nick what other sites have you worked on, Seems like the Prometheus and Alien Covenant days I was listening to you everyday at another site?

Sorry but I had to laugh about finding the original Alien floating in space, that's like finding one needle on a haystack the size of our planet. Jokes aside i hope they do some connection to Prometheus and Covenant as someone said below we need closure I was so looking forward to Alien Awakening Thanks Nick.💯👊🏾

anyone else ever think that those glass bottles that hold the black goo look like a super refreshing drink? it prob tastes like Bawls energy drink

Where did you get the clip of Daniels hunting the 06:20 Alien on board Covenant in the hibenation crew area ? I have never seen that before and I can't find it anywhere.

I'll catch it on streaming. If it's even mildly decent, I'll be surprised..

would have been more sense to use lance henriksen as rook as he still alive and was bishop, all chess piece names

HOW can the black goo have been reverse-engineered from the OG xenomorph if it was discovered on an Engineer ship BEFORE the original film? Before the classic xeno's even existed, according to Covenant?

My personal movie canon for Alien is: Alien, Aliens, Prometheus, and Alien: Covenant. All of the other movies including the Predator crossovers I consider little side hustles pieces of entertainment that I thought were OK and usually enjoyed but NOT canon to the overall story. I have never read any of the books or comics so those don't factor into my personal view of the Alien world. I do see how other completely unrelated stories like Blade Runner or Outland (1981 Sean Connery, great movie) could be a part of the Alien world. Blade Runner shows what earth probably looked like around the time of Alien and explores synthetics in human society. Outland is explores the gritty world of heavy industry and mining in space in the future. The Nostromo could have been coming from a mining facility like the one depicted in Outland. Outland in particular has a very strong Alien vibe even though there are no aliens of any type in the plot. I think some of the vibe connecting Alien and Outland is due to the fact that Jerry Goldsmith composed and produced BOTH movie soundtracks! Set design and lighting is also very familiar when comparing the two films. Anyway, I just think those are potentially interesting connections or visions of an expanded Alien canon.

You know what'd be different in these alien movies? A male protagonist, Jesus have they beat the feminist herion bs to death. What was great about Ripley is her story was believable.

I think David engineering the final form of the xenomorphs should require him being the first host. The aliens have looked very organic and didn’t have that bio mechanical look from the originals. David’s observation and drive about he being superior to humans and he wanting to create and surpass his own creator would make for the perfect reason for him deciding the last step in creating the perfect organism is to add his own mechanical nature to it.

So there isn’t a security team monitoring the station ? So after the explosion of the main ship someone came to investigate it and that’s how they found the xenomorph.

Apart from using Ian Holm’s likeness without his permission (even if his estate grants the licensed use), I’m in! Love pretty much everything Alien, and I’ll be there at the theatre without doubt. Thanks for the info, very helpful 👍✨

I don't have a problem with it. I like to think of it as a tribute to the dead actor who's character is lore in the Alien stories. I imagine it will be a nice surprise for the next gen of people watching Alien for the first time (through watching the new movie) to want to watch the whole series from the beginning and see where the android's origins were (I'm a sucker for stuff like that myself)

There's just something very special to the way Ridley makes Alien movies, i'm sceptical about a relative unknown or "run of the mill" director doing it

Goddamn, hearing that it has ANY type of connection to either Prometheus or covenant is HORRIFYING. GET RIDLEY SCOTT’S HAND OFF THE IP This news has just defeated my hope for this movie to be any damn good.

8:10. Damn, I don't remember seeing those in Covenant. Is that picture altered?

The fact they recovered Big Chap but left Ripley would put Aliens into an all new & possibly even more humbling context….. That she was indeed left to just float in space…… Maybe that’s what the Salaco was supposed to do before it crashed on Fury 161. Man, the implications & stories that can come from that!

Sounds great to me ❤

I remember reading those Alien comic books from years ago 1990-1993, now there being made into movies 🎥 but hopefully they will pull this off in a big way!

I like that they are going to bring Ian Holms character back. Basically I'm just searching for anything that has the same feeling as Alien and Aliens. We'll see how it goes

Weird that they would make more androids who look like Ash... The original crew of the Nostromo didn't know Ash was an android... "Ash is a damn ROBOT!" They were shocked when they found out. But, if there are multiple androids who look exactly like Ash running around, why WOULDN'T they know? If the Ash Model is common, it increases the odds that they would be familiar with him and KNOW he was an android immediately. Plus, in Alien, Bishop comments on how terrible Ash's model was. "The A2s always were a bit twitchy. That could never happen now with our behavioral inhibitors..." Why would they continue to use that model? Is Alien Romulus a prequel? Did it take place BETWEEN Alien and Aliens? It has to have happened AFTER Alien, if they caught the alien floating in space... What's the deal?

It’s interesting choice to introduce another “ Ash” model android, and it kinda makes sense that Waylon Yutani is currently utilizing in this time frame.

I love the alien franchise like I really love it. However they need to really change up the equation. Like female protag, ambiguous android (may or not be bad, normally bad), trying to connect to previous installments. They should take some inspiration from the books. It’s a big galaxy, pick some place unconnected. The xeno origins were always indistinct and mysterious. Make the protag male or make em an android. Just do something, take a risk stop trying to use the same equation. Alien 3 is probably when that equation expired. Change it up and make a new story. If the engineer’s iconography any clue, the xeno been around for a long time in one form or another. That means it doesn’t need to connect to lv-426 or Prometheus/covenant.

Thank you for launching right into the synopsis instead of blathering on and on about ALL the other iterations on ALL the forums and outlets etc. That kinda stuff can be very confusing for some of us old ones. The Star Wars franchise has been so fragmented and "bastardized" that I lost track several years ago, and the same thing has happened to "Alien".

If we're going back in the past... I'm holding out hope for another Sigourney movie too.

How did they find the big chap when they didnt know where the Nostromo was detonated and if they did space is big how did they find the bug in that massive vacuum of space... also according to the book based on the screen play the big chap exploded from the rigors of the vacuum of space. How did they know the ship blew up when this takes place after Alien but Before Aliens? Why would WY have xenos and then be so obsessed with getting them during the events of Aliens and Alien Resurrection where they cloned them from the residue of Ripley's bio scan and tests... where she some how had the complete dna of the queen alien too... but its all mixed up (one the convoluted reasons I didnt like Alien Regurgitation... I mean resurrection.) They will have to do some serious story telling gymnastics to explain their ability to locate basically a man sized creature that they didnt even actually know was aboard that was floating across light years of space... (or perhaps somehow they did know the xeno was aboard...) The Nostromo had entered FTL when the crew had to deal with The Big Chap... so I supposed they could try to trace the lines from LV426 or if they had transmission of the Nostromos flight path they could draw a line and look along that line but its still light years, and the ship exploded pushing things around in the local space...it is still a needle in the haystack search. I certainly hope the heroine in this movie is not a mary sue... like Rey... and many other woke cinematic disasters and assaults on genre established IP. I have no problem with strong female characters as long as they too have endured the heroes journey... Ripley, Princess Leia, Sarah Connor, and more recently Black Widow who has a detailed backstory... She has to have a background and not one laden with plot armor contrivances... FOX should scrap alien 3 and 4 and dismiss the abysmal prequels that destroy the mythos of the creature much like the Midichlorians did for the Force.... Give us a solid sequel to Alien and Aliens which would literally make this the 3 actual installment. That however would have required the presence of Sigourney Weaver and Michael Biehn.... Wait they have them lined up years ago and the preproduciton was under way for an alien movie with them years after Aliens... and it would have passed the torch off to an Adult Newt (rumors abound who was going to play her...) So many really well thought out books/novels and they writing teams and director just chuck the baby out with the bathwater... We will see if Alien: Romulus is decent... perhaps it fell thru the cracks like Predator: Prey did... and we get a very entertaining story that does not further ruin the cannon.

I cant wait for this, but I also remember a short story in the audio book Bug hunt where Bishop comes across a re-programmed version of his model named Rook that was helping a terrorist group. I wonder if this lines up at all.

I want more from the prometheus covenant timeline

It'd be refreshing if they actually had a lead male " bad ass" character in an Alien film for once( that isn't killed off screen inbetween films). They seem to be fixated on repeating the success of the Ripley character with other simular leads in the Alien franchise, by having a female character being the main focus of literally every single Alien film that's been made..including AVP, while it worked perfectly with Sigourney weaver due to he great performances in the original films, it hasn't been matched by any of the stand in "Ripley" characters that have appeared in the many sequels/reboots.

Ridley Scott continues to kick a dead horse. You can all complain about Prometheus, but both John Spatits and David Lindelof had scripts that explained everything throughly shown in the movie, and all the characters acted logically. If you saw characters acting dumb in the movie or something not explained, that was Ridley Scott cutting out scenes for "pacing."

Hope Alien: Romulus is good and makes sense within existing lore. IMM, the hologram displaying the event/cataclysm on LV-223 (in Prometheus) is the same event which forced the derelict ship to crash on LV-426. So the Engineers created the Xenomorphs which appeared in Alien and Aliens, and the derelict ship crashed a thousand years before the Nostramo crew found it. In Alien: Covenant, David created his own variant and is still tweaking it to make his own Xenomorphs. To that end the human colony on Oregai 6 is going to be David's Xenomorph hive instead.

This sounds like a cross between Prometheus, Alien & Aliens like in the comics i can't wait for the trailer

Did you use to narrate videos for a different channel? Got this bizarre feeling I've heard you talk about the Alien movies before, but am new to this channel

The fact this franchise is Disney bums me out….. they have ruined every IP they acquired. I don’t have much hope for this movie.

I wish this movie gets* far away from the "David created the Xenomorph" crap

We return to the first ALIEN (1979) we take the Black material from PROMETHEUS and the ALIEN Alibinos from ALIEN COVENANT, DAvid an Android surely present. We are impatiently awaiting the Trailer.

Why would weapons/technology that is chronologically 'older' have newer features? I get the idea of, 'new to the audience', but if it looks more modern and or/functions better than the in-universe newer guns, that won't make much sense.

So basically the same sh*t all over again. Trying to push continuation with old movies, because they capitalize on sentiment. Do you understand guys, that If the "alien" is the same one from the 79 it means there's no narrative closure for Ripley for the first movie? And heroine like Ripley again? Really? Again? They've tried it with Daniels and it was cringe. Can Hollywood make original movies like it did in the old era?

I want Shaw's and Ripley's clone meet at the end of this whole saga. Discovering the engineers and fighting all of them altogether.

1:11 Well, well...someone left the a/c running!

I just want them to bring it back to the original and Isolation vfibe, One solo earlier evolved stage Xenomorph threat.. Make it more menacing fast brutal and stealthy.

I could do without the Prometheus connection. I'd rather just forget about those two turds. Loving the connection to the OG though.

As far as the likeness goes for the android it's cool because the actor will never know and in the end it doesn't even matter. 😸

Using Ian Holm, via AI, is something which obviously they wouldn't do without the blessing of his family, and I see it as a great homage to Holm. What a splendid idea, IF that is what happens. And if they manage to successfully tie this in with Prometheus and Covenant, at least in some small way, I'll be a happy dog, as I loved both those films, and their themes need to be explored and given some closure.. OR continuation. If Alvarez pulls this off.. well, hats off to him.

Well they found Ripley floating in the Narcissus rescue pod after 50 years. So hey anything is possible in the Alien universe.

Any idea when the teaser will release?

long as the David connection is played out because i really would like to see how the colonists got on after David got aboard the covenent and if he kept daniels alive or not but that would be too over the edge Scott really knew how to tie down people in a state of helplessness and allow the bad guys to win after the ending for raised by wolfs season 2 you kinda see what the meta narative was a mother being incapable of saving themselevs or their children ec.

Even with spooilers i'll go see the movie in the cinema anyway. because i care so much about this franchise, that i want to tell the producers that i would like someone to save it and course correct it.

But what will the rating be on this movie?! And who will be in the next movie?! 😮

Oh man. You had Alien: Covenant and The Predator spoiled for you? Lucky…

The really sad part is Alien Isolation was such a good game and story and they've yet to make it a movie. Smh

They need to make Predator, Alien and AVP Movies, TV Series and Animated Movies Based on the Better Dark Horse comics for who cares about human characters explore more of the Mythology.

How can WY possibly locate the xenomorph drifting in space from the original film, when Romulus takes place before ALIENS in which Ripley tells WY about it for the first time?

I too was disappointed with the whole Ian Holm AI stand in. Freddy Alvarez should have just got Martin Freeman to play a younger version of Ash/Rook

It sounds like it's based on one of the books, mainly "THE COLD FORGE," but the timeline may not be correct. Also, will it have the space communists?

I would bet that there will be a brother secret research facility somewhere in this movie Universe called Remus, where they are breeding red Aliens👍

I love the alien films but why do they always have to follow the same template. Evil android, female hero etc.

Its respecting and showing the original actor homage for the role they created, as long as its done well and tastefully shouldn't be a problem!

My idea for a third alien covenant/prometheus movie is as follows: The engineers are the main characters in the movie and comes to the planet that was in the Prometheus movie. There they find Weyland inside the crashed spaceship. They have a blue elixir which they empty all over him and bring him to life. But while doing this the Deacon from the Prometheus movie sneaks into their spaceship and hide it self in one of the ventilation chambers. In the next part they arrive at the planet from alien covenant and find the other robot(Walter) who is david's twin.The engineers use the blue elixir and repairs him. Once awaken the engineers and Weyland get to know all the horrible things that David has done, and weyland says "we have to stop David" . They set course for origae. When they arrive,they scans all the planet,and finds the planet is full of hostile organisms except on a high mountain where they discover that there are humans inside a cave. Inside the cave they meet a herd of children, who tell that when they had lived on the planet for over ten years, they began to be attacked by Xenomorphs and all the adults died or were turned into these creatures. There were also great giants developed by someone the children calls David. The engineers get ready to wipe out all the Xenomorphs that David has created, but the great giants manage to escape with one of the engineers' spaceships. The engineers and Weyland hunts the spaceship and manage to force the spaceship down on the planet lv426.Where it start sending a distress signal. The engineers return to Origae to find David, but discover that he has escaped. In the last part we see David arriving and meeting an unknown alien species on a tropical like planet. At the same time Nostromo leaves a nearby planet with the cargo of ore. But when he and the unknown aliens have left the spaceship,the deacon slips out of the ship and is seen running toward the nearest settlement. And that makes the cliffhanger that ends the third movie. The ending movie could have a duration about five hours ?

There are plenty of hungry and talented actors out there. These studios gotta pay their talent

This was supposed to be a standalone feature independent of the prequel titles?

i dunno i think all that sounds awesome

There's too many bad ideas that made their way in to the prequels and Romulus doesn't sound any better. Prometheus had promise but was ended very badly. Covenant was just a disaster script all together. Part of what made the originals so good as sci-fi thrillers was the mystery of the Aliens. They've basically taken all that away from the audience. I liked trying to imagine for myself where the Aliens were from and how did they come in to contact with the "Space Jockey"? It's a real shame Ridley didn't take the proper steps to respect the original source material.

I hope there are some neomorphs or similar Xenomorphs in this.

I don't know. What is going on?

What if the planet is Origae-6?

So, you're not gonna credit AvpGalaxy as the source for all your info?

4:40 its perfectly ok I think, even though he was a real person he's portraying a character in a film and theres no reason why that character should die just because the person with the face is gone.

The 1st Alien movie made sense..company orders space people to investigate, discover a ship with a hive, crew member gets infected by a parasite and a new monster is born. 2nd movie..company wants space warriors to go back to the alien planet which is totally infected out though we never understand why they did not look for the derelict ship which is the source of the infection, cowboys an indians time with a female hero, hero wins and we learn alien eggs come from a queen who lays them. 3rd movie..kinda made sense but stunk because a couple leftover characters from the last movie were dead on prison planet arrival. 4th movie...totally garbage. 5th movie prequel makes sense, has some answers but many questions. 6th movie...more garbage and I thought alien eggs only came from an alien queen?? Now your trying to tell me the 1st alien was recovered after being blasted into space and did'nt I hear somewhere that the 1st alien was actually at the end of it's life cycle and dying when Ripley disturbed it while it was resting/dying..??

Although Covenant was mildly better than the laughable mess that was Prometheus...the continuation of this idea that the "Aliens" are really just 'lost bioweapons' from Weylon-Yutani really just further sabotages everything that was special, unique and truly scary about the original Alien movie. Outside of "the black goo" and the silly "Navigators", the centerpiece creature is not really an "alien" anymore. It's what you just 'get' when you use the black goo to modify human (or Navigator) DNA. 😅

is there any chance Engineers could show in this movie?

So, what happend with David on Origae 6?

I never believed the early stories that this film would ignore the prequels. I didn’t see how Ridley Scott could’ve so positively endorsed the film (as he apparently did) if it had ignored them. Some interesting ideas . I just hope it doesn’t turn out incoherent, and a fan service mish mash of different fragments from each previous film. Disney have some form doing that sort of thing. Someone also raised a question about the age of the cast - just how much depth will the characters have, all being so young? It’s a pretty common trope in trashy horror to use young characters as canon fodder, and one of the things that made Alien so powerful was the way the characters reacted to the unfolding crisis they found themselves in. I’m not sure a young cast could pull off something similar.

Sounds a bit like Cold Forge.

So for all of these new movies, they start with what we know and love and then “change it”. It usually just comes out as messing with the perfection of the first two films. We’ll see I guess. I’m more interested in Noah Hawleys Alien series.

Denis villneuve needs to take a crack at this franchise.

I think this is a great way to tie everything together. Now i can look at covenant as a stand alone move that had David mess with the black goo and make his own creations. This feels like the comic stories to me with different varients of face hugger and xenomorph and scientists messing round with them in a lab. I think people who read the comics and delve in to all other stories in the universe will be happy but people who only inow the films bot so happy.

Always leaving the laundry detergent on the playground.

Actually sounds good.

They should come across the Prometheus and that’s where they find the Xenos . That wld connect everything .

damn it!! the android should of had a name beginning with E !!!! so far they have been alphabetical- Ash -Bishop -Call -David

If they are going to model the new heroine after Ripley, she is going to have big shoes to fill. Ripley was never a warrior, she just did what she had to do in the moment. In the first she was basically scared shitless. The second, she was processing loss and redeeming herself as a mother. By the third, she realised ahe failed and was just done with everything. Her story arc is also tragic, because by the last appearance, she had become one with the very thing she was fighting.