*Oh for sure. Partagaz is doing a great job as a manager for his staff. I love that his character is not only honest about what he & the Empire expects of them, but he's willing to listen to them & acknowledge their work when it's done right or above quota. Such a great character.*

I said the same thing. He even gives her a warning, because he knows his actions will also put a target on her back. But each trial she overcomes is rewarded, which is what all good managers should be doing.

I knew he reminded me of someone. And now I got it. If Richard Feynman, the Nobel Prize laureate in physics is chairing a meeting, we may be sure he will get some results! The resemblance to Feynman in his last years is uncanny, at least for me.

All skills that make a great leader.

I think that makes things more fascinating. We root for people like Dedra and Partagaz for being quite competent and running things well. At the same time, they also represent the empire and ways that it could be efficient. When Dedra began interrogating Bix those mix feelings became so prominent.

*Indeed! Great writing for these scenes in Andor for sure.*

Not sure if that's a compliment, given the shit show of Game of Thrones

​@@aknight1096 except game of thrones had extremely good dialogue for the first several seasons

​@@-______-6536Yeah, people always forget the 6 good seasons, and judge the show on the 2 bad seasons. I find this weird🤔🤷🏾‍♂️

@@-______-6536 except the first several seasons literally lifted lines of dialogue straight from the book pages

*Oh yes!!! Partagaz brings such a great style of flare to the ISB that many of us couldn't wait for him to pop up in the next ISB scenes to see how he would act next. Just great writing & dialog for this character.*

He’s really the epitome of the benality of evil. Imagine all the shattered lives, minds and bodies he’s pilled up to get where he is now, yet he doesn’t come off as the ruthless, brutal, terrifyingly effective spymaster that is responsible for so much suffering on a daily basis he makes the KGB look like schoolyard bullies by comparison. He has all the qualities of a great manager, but all those qualities are used in service of one of the worst governments the galaxy has ever seen.

I LOVE how he tells her that Blevins is basically a tool. BUT he's a tool that's getting results, which is what the empire wants. He's telling her how to play the game, how to watch her back. Otherwise the tool will be her supervisor some day. Then he throws her a bone by commending her for her Sev Tok detention numbers. Wonderful writing.

Like hitler talking to the SS

old guys just trying to keep glorified space pirates away from civilian targets, the rebellion admitted that only reason they attacked that Dam (and were ready to kill women and children for it, as well as put tribal people at risk) was so that Empire becomes brutal, they self admittedly made the empire a dangerous place and wanted reason to cause a revolution and war a war that will take millions of lives.

*Indeed! Such a great scene & great dialog between these characters.*

*YES!!!! Ran by people that took their job seriously & looked to do the job great!!!! Dialog has been almost perfect each time the ISB has shown up on screen.*

@@starwarsunlimiteduniverse not to mention the acting, on everyone!

I love it.

Right? I was just telling some friends how the ISB scenes are becoming my favorite. They really showcase another SW convention that Andor turns on its head: Portraying Imperial officers as being competent and highly motivated. The writing, the dialogue, it's all just sooooooo good. When Major Partagaz turns to Dedra and prompts her with, "Thesis, please?" A simple question, two words, but it also conveys a lot about who he is, what he values, and what he expects from his subordinates.

@@johnlynnbeck I’ve actually been re-watching this scene all day today. It’s just brilliant. And that single line too: “Thesis, please.” The delivery, the intelligence behind it…so simple, yet so complex and says so much about the character. We’ve never really had writing like this in Star Wars, and it feels like an absolute treat. I am here for all of it!

That line almost made me blush for Dedra. The dialogue is like a sumptuous feast.

I also loved that part. It was like poetry.

*For sure. I love it when he says that to Dedra for a better explanation.*

Sounds like my professor.

@@TheUltimateEel summary of my final year for real

Very much like his character Qyburn on Game of Thrones, more intellectual than most of his counterparts.

_It's _*_all_*_ just so pitch perfect._

*Same here. I would watch every episode because I believe that it would be great content to watch.*

@@starwarsunlimiteduniverse fighters incoming at 3 oclock , port side!!

Yeah, because Dedra ain't no self-interested sycophant, she's a competent and ruthless professional who will do whatever it takes to get the job done without crossing the lines that really matter. Major Partagaz likely sees her as a breath of fresh air that can make the ISB what he thinks it should be, so he's cool with her breaking a few small rules and formalities and even not getting angry when she speaks out of turn.

*Indeed. She definitely puts in the work. And I'm continously loving her character more & more per her scenes.*

She has become one of my favorite characters and I just want to watch more of her

@@starwarsunlimiteduniverse and she has subordinates who seem to be agreeable with her (the Jake Gyllenhaall clone for one!); but clearly she seems to be under stress: what do you suppose those pills she pops are? Supplements, painkillers or stimulants?

@@nickmitsialis likely stimulants, since she's shown staying up all night digging into databases

@@nickmitsialis Probably anxiolytics, anti depressants.

*That is a possibility that the rebellion could be shut down a bit faster. But, something will happen that gives the rebellion the edge for sure. We'll see that here in the Andor series & of course in the coming movies that are already established.*

The fact that there are Imperials like her willing to ruthlessly and efficiently torture and kill is why the Rebellion even exists, it’s a double edged sword. Nemek’s manifesto is dead on, control is unnatural and it leaks and bends

@@chazzerous Yes, and we see that her oppression is the mask of fear when she spends 0.2 seconds with her actual boots on the actual ground when she gets grabbed and shaken around a bit by the peasants and she is totally terrified.

@@nonuvurbeeznus795 Yep. I can see writers could turn that character in any direction they want. And i m all for it.

all i hear is yennefer when she speaks

*Indeed, he truly is a higher up that I for sure would love to work for. That's just me though.*

That problem is also present in real life institutions

Additionally he tries to remedy mistakes his subordinates make, such as the part where he tells supervisor jung to submit a report that he can review

Served in the military for over 20 years. I can tell you, this is the way many department heads meetings went. The dialogue and interplay between Partagaz, Blevin and Meero runs true. Partagaz is clearly in charge, and has set the standard for their operating plan; Meero is nervously, then more defiantly, questioning it, because she's certain she's on to something. To his credit, he's open enough to let her challenge it. If she's wrong, she'll be eviscerated (which is what Blevin and the others expect to see happen). If she's right, the major is willing to see it through. This is true, realistic dialogue; the writing and acting here is perfect. And these are the villains lol!

He didn’t get where he is by being stupid.

She's an eilte level stage actress that has received two Olivier awards .. ... she also voice-acted "Yennefer" in one of the best ever videogames: "The Witcher 3" She's done bit parts on TV - but this was her first major score on TV, and she nailed it! She got to be the lead villain in Star Wars - the very BEST Star Wars!

*RIGHT!!!! The various facial expressions during this scene was hilarious to me.* 😂

@@starwarsunlimiteduniverse I really love the acting from the ISB actors, they tell you everything they are feeling with their body language, like you can tell when Dedra is feeling scared of loosing, and when I forget the dude's name when you can see things aren't going his way as he thought they would. I like how you can tell that Partagaz wants people to be more than just passive members of the system but rather to challenge the preconceived notions and to continue evolving the ISB into a more capable institution. He looked as if he found something he had been waiting to find for a long time.

It sounds eerily close to her voice as Yennefer of Vengerberg, from The Witcher

@@ilo3456 loosing 😂

@@theburgerfarm ur right she does voice yennifer in witcher 3 😂

*I concur with you. The many of the actors are doing such a great job portraying their characters.*

He's my favorite character in this show

The way he reads his lines... amazing

All good, not a bad bit of acting at all so far. Denise Gough, Skarsgard and Serkis have raised the bar though.

And that's why he was cast for this role

*I'll be doing a video on Partagaz's facial expressions. H.I.L.A.R.I.O.U.S!!!! Lol! But, yes. I agree that Partagaz is a specific type of authority that he shows when he walks in the room & love that about his character.*

You can on the tv series Endeavour Morse where Anton Lesser the Actor plays Chief Superintend Bright with the same authority. He rarely raises his voice, but does it in a tone that is scary.

*YES!!!! I would definitely use it as well!!!!* 😂

@Spider-Flash upload it to place where it's easy to find for social media such as WhatsApp, Twitter, Facebook etc

@Spider-Flash awww 🥰

@Spider-Flash Thesis, please?

*I truly am hopeful that we'll gain more of the day to day life of the Empire. Including a series centered around the ISB. That would be great. Hopeful Disney does give us more of this in the coming years.*

Or even one of the Disney era novels. There is some really good political stuff linking return of the Jedi to force awakens

It is always as if good writing results in good shows.

Andor is confirmed for two seasons, and I'd prefer if they kept it that way. Stories are always better when they have a clear structure and plan in mind, especially knowing where it ends. Attempting to stretch a show past that is an effective way to drag the quality of the writing through the mud.

@@naveil4255 *Oh it most definitely can mess up the flow of stories & characters in a show if the original formula that worked in the beginning gets shifted in another direction. I'm hopeful that these two seasons brings about a couple of Andor spin-offs, one mainly being about the ISB.*

*I've watched it 3 times so far. Now, it's time for me to watch it 33 more times because from start to finish, it's such a great scene.*

@@starwarsunlimiteduniverse lol same

I finally got to see the voice of Yennefer for real .. Yes, it was a privilege to see this extremely underrated stage actress be the best ever non-Force Star Wars villain. Denise is amazing - she lengthily spouts jargon in front of the whole room, and captures their attention ... something like .. "This should have been avoided. The xenovox capacitors could easily have been recaptured if our sector analysis agents had actually protected our most SECRET equipment - including Keira 5 systems operations, using Aldhani technology, USING Pathfinder 2 Zee software, USING a Tattoine hyperspace signature! How did NOBODY see this??!" All effortless. She is awesome. Denise, as an actress, is every bit a privilege to watch.- I'm thrilled that it was "naughty" Star Wars that finally catapulted her to genuine TV fame - and Star Wars fame. This character is surely canon now!

*ALL OF THIS!!!! There must be some good banter between colleagues with a good or great mediator.*

Thrawn did the same thing with his subordinates. He also didn't let his ego get in the way when a subordinate had a good idea.

@@richardlahan7068 *Thrawn most definitely did his job & listened to his subordinates because he gained their trust to do their job to the best of their ability.*

*You caught that too huh??? Lol! We'll be talking that for sure. But, even that scene with Luthen & Mon Mothma was done really well. Can't wait for episode 8 next week.*

i think that was one of the many parallels between the rebellion and the empire this episode had

@@starwarsunlimiteduniverse Oh gosh, Luthen better not be Dedra's father... 😂😂😂

The major in the first episode gives her the strategy to use when he admonished her (sort of) for reading verbatim from the manual of their purpose. She read the situation and altered her strategy to take this into account when dealing with Blevin. He approved of her handling of the situation and the fact that she understood the subtle nuances in his directions. It shows that he wants recruits who are able to think for themselves and use trickles of information and evidence to be successful spymasters.

There are two aspects to how the Empire operates. You have the vast bureaucracy where initiative is discouraged and everyone is fighting over jurisdiction and build their own corrupt fieefdoms. Then you also have the troubleshooters who operate outside the system and can cut through the red tape because they report to the Emperor or Vader (the chief troubleshooter). Dedra belongs to the first group but tried to act as would a member of the second group. She has to succeed spectacularly or she will be destroyed by the system.

*There's something that we cac gain from the various scenes between Blevin, Dedra & Partagaz. Seeing how things shifted from one of the spectrum to the next that lead to this moment in episode 7 is truly amazing.*

*So much happened in 3 episodes time, that we have some interesting topics of discussion to come. I love the ISB so much & I truly hope we get a separate ISB series after Andor. Here's to hoping.*

@@przemekkozlowski7835 I think this is a misread, initiative isn't discouraged within the empire, it's just that sticking your neck out is just as likely to get your head cut off as it is to let you see a path to advancement. Most people who work in the empire get a decent wage, a menial but stable job, benefits, why risk everything?

*In my head, yup! I had the exact same reaction that you did.* 😂

*I wouldn't say people are wrong for feeling & thinking for their own when it comes to Andor. It's just that the show isn't what they've expected it to be 7 episodes into this first season. I'm already wondering what season two is going to bring. I'm just glad that there's many of us that are rushing back to watch every episode with anticipation & maybe one day those people that don't like it as of now, maybe need a rewatch(because sometimes that's needed) for them to at least enjoy it more than the first time that they saw it.*

It's the dumbing down of society and the shortening of attention spans. Just look at KZfaq pushing shorts to compete with TikTok.

I agree. They are too used to being spoon fed.

It’s not Grogu or CGI Luke Skywalker 🙄 I can’t believe the one time we’ve gotten something wholly new and fresh in Star Wars in a long time and now it’ll prob Tank and Disney will see lower ratings as a sign to just stick to cheap fan service for now 😭

I personally love seeing Star Wars content where I can forget I’m watching Star Wars. It’s nice to see history, government, and the lives of ordinary people like you and me being portrayed in such a realistic way. A lot of fans just like to take a break from real life by watching the classic fairytale aspect of Star Wars which is mystical Jedi and rebel heroes saving the galaxy from the evil empire and demonic Sith. But when you remove all that and put in every aspect of real life, it actually becomes more interesting to watch.

lmao, good one

Add some "watch your back" after meetings. Spice things up

*The dialog is truly great for a lot of scenes in the show. This is what I love about it & I look forward to more.*

*Yes indeed!!!! Such a great show for sure.*

Well... you were watching A masterpiece, that's for sure

the first order was composed mostly of old brats with anger issues

​@@theasianboy315 that's fascism for ya

@@theasianboy315 And it's very strange that they screwed that up so hard. The First Order had some interesting things they could've done with it. People like Hux who are literally just nepobabies running around in their fascist underpants because their Imperial daddy was in charge somewhere at some point when the actual Empire fell. He didn't get his position because he was truly competent. He got it because he was a cruel, idiot child with a cruel, intelligent father.

*THIS scene spoke VOLUMES. So much can happen from THIS point of the ISB side of the main stories & gain some huge traction. I'm truly hopeful that things get interesting from here within the ISB.*

This is probably why she gets the Death Troopers later.

Because we see them behind the scenes. From a Rebel perspective, they could easily be seen just the same as angry Imps failing to find the Rebels.

And intelligence. Right afterward, he asks for evidence to support the thesis. He knows effective communication and how to engage in her argument for the justification for her actions.

He knows already that Dedra - having risked her career with the "systems either change or die" line - is onto something important. She broke the rules for a purpose, the advancement of the Empire. "Thesis please ..." - the challenge! She was up to the challenge.

*Yes indeed. I really love how well done the cinematography has been done in many of the scenes for each episode these past 8 episodes that we've gained so far. I can't wait to see what each scene of episode 9 looks like next Wednesday.*

*Lol! That is definitely a great view for sure. Many people in management do work their jobs like they're a teacher, trying to continously tell their workers how to do their job their way rather than trust them to do it themselves. Which sometimes I despise. Lol! But, Partagaz is a really well written character in the show.*

In my country up until now (centralisation efforts) architects had to present their plans for new buildings to the planning committee of the municipial self-government, headed by the chief architect (I'm not sure about any titles) of the municipiality. I was in such a meeting and indeed the cheif architect sounded like a teacher, asking questions like "what do you thinkk of that facade" and provoking discussion. And it was indeed a sight to see for me either despite being there as a political observes, not as an architect. (I just wanted to make sure the contruction won't disrupt the neighbourhood that much so that my voters get uset, but inddeed it was a sight in itself to see authority figure acting like a teacher.)

*Everyone in this show has done a great job portraying the characters. Literally to me, there's not one bad character in show.*

The comment at the end "well played. Watch your back" is a suggestion that it is both competency AND politics, and I suppose an intelligence officer should indeed have both.

@@szarvaskoppany yes which is why partagaz is trying to teach that to dedra so she doesnt get sabotaged

*I'll take it for both shows for sure.*

Sorry, Kenobi wished it had the complexity of Andor

@@Davao420 Andor makes both shows look like amateur fan films, it's embarrassing how Dedra comes off more intimidating than Reeva, a sith inquisitor who has trouble interrogating a literal child

@@spoopy._.cheems as they most likely planned revas redemption from the start they already created a limitation to how evil a character could be.

After watching ahsoka i dont think they gonna go there😂

*Yes indeed!!!! They're doing such a great job as the characters They're portraying each episode!*

You can't make a Tomlett without breaking some Greggs

*I'll for sure take Dedra as the main antagonist. Why not.*

@@starwarsunlimiteduniverse As long as they don’t make her go rebel i’ll be happy lol

@@ellerysmusic yes keep her Imperial

@@ellerysmusic rebel is in, rebel is ho, reject police and law enforcement, become angst teenager REEEEE (because it makes more money for us😉😉💵💵)

@@nathanielwilliams6042 I’m love a good imperial to rebel plotline if it’s written well, it just wouldn’t fit for her and it’s been done too much recently

*Amazing can't even truly describe how great this show really is. The ratings are what they are. Some people can sit through heavy dialog with great writing, while others can't. Those of us who literally RUN back to Disney Plus to watch in anticipation, will continue to fully support this type of show.*

*Oh for sure!!!! These scenes are addicting to not watch more than once.*

Well when Deidra gets a chance to Do A Torture she embraces it with glee, someone can be dedicated to their work and also a monster

*She did very well for sure!!!!*

I really liked andors presentation of the empire.

Have you watched the series yet? If so, let me know what you think! Dedra first appears in episode 4, but there’s other great actors throughout

*I'm glad that I was able to provide with a peak into this show with this scene. And I hope that you sat down, watched many of the other episodes & gained your own perspective whether positive or negative.*

Watched it and it’s the kind of Star Wars I like. Wow the acting is spectacular and various points of view without a leading of opinion was amazing. That’s the way more programs should be.

@@Unaidedfoot glad to hear you enjoyed it

*Such a great end to this scene between Partagaz & Dedra.*

Office politics at it’s finest…

I concur. The quality of Star Wars has never been as good as it has been in Andor. Personal nostalgic blindness aside, even the original trilogy is demonstrably bad compared to this. The writing is absolutely delightful and so pleasant on the ears; one can literally feel smarter after watching this show. The side of Star Wars that has never felt present despite it being told to us is finally encapsulated- what a rebellion against a very large power looks like. It is sophisticated and tells a grandiose story that has an extremely complex narrative with many different catalysts and moving pieces all working elegantly to make the story appear almost real. The show does not rely on bright flashing swords or Sith/Jedi Mythology to steer its plot but instead focuses on realistic politics and gritty human fighting to have deepened emergence. This is the Star Wars that I want, but a lot of people prefer the cameos and flashy lightsaber fights.

​​@@JNB0723I think this is an excellent point that many are quite afraid to make. I often see Andor referred to as a return to the quality and style of the original trilogy, and I have always disagreed with this sentiment. I personally think that Andor is a step above the original trilogy. The OT, for all of its brilliance, is a swashbuckling fantasy scifi space opera framed by the general notion of good rebels versus evil government. There is absolutely nothing wrong with what I just described, but the OT never made its primary purpose to expose the inner workings of fascism to the audience. Honestly, I am not entirely convinced that Star Wars was a clever allegory for American imperialism in the Vietnam War, as is commonly touted. We're shown a distinctly "Triumph of the Will"-style fascist totalitarian regime that vaporizes an entire planet in the first act of the first film, and then from there on out our concern is mostly with the interpersonal drama of Luke, Han, Leia, and Vader. Again, I absolutely do not mean to say that this is a flaw of the original trilogy. I only want to point out that, if the original trilogy is truly meant to be anti-fascist messaging, then it seems to have failed in that regard, as I don't think the average Star Wars viewer walks away from the theater with a distrustful view of the American political establishment. Afterall, in many fan circles the Empire is loved more than the rebels simply because of the rule of cool. Andor, on the other hand, sets out from the beginning to show us how fascism operates. The grounded writing of the show makes us far more uncomfortable with the Empire than the Death Star ever could. I am far less troubled by the destruction of an entire planet than I am by things like private corporate rule, destruction of indigenous populations, police brutality, the prison-industrial complex, and the surrender of civil liberties in the pursuit of the illusion of security. These things trouble me more because they do not disappear when I turn the TV off. For the last time, I don't say it as a criticism, but Star Wars was written for fun. Hell, it began life as a live-action adaptation of Flash Gordon. Andor, on the other hand, does little to take the audience along on a fanciful adventure. There is no swashbuckling to be had. It is dry, it is violent, it is cruel, and it is brilliant.

IKR. No SW fans, male or otherwise, took issue with the strong yet flawed women in Andor. Which we would have, if we were the women hating incels they make us out to be.

This show actually gets us invested in Dedra. Unlike Reva, the writers for Andor allow us to watch her grow from a woman in a male dominated world to one who becomes a genuine threat not just to Andor but to Ferrix as a whole. Her rise to power is thrilling. You like her and relate to her struggle but then you realize that was misplaced when she starts becoming terrifying like her scene with Bix. The show demonstrates WHY she is a threat. Whereas with Reva where we are not shown why we should be afraid of her.

Marva Andor Mon Mothma Bix Caleen Dedra Meero Vel Sartha Cinta Kaz Kleya Marki (my fav non-main character) ...even (Darth) Eedy Karn! All simply straight up great characters because of a well written story!

@@luminaraunduli2791 what I liked about having Fiona Shaw in there was that it felt like the anti-Petunia from Harry Potter.

No one is calling fans sexist for disliking characters. They call "fans" sexist for expressing their dislike with extremely immature, sexist and hateful remarks that have nothing to do with criticism of a story progression, character development and screenplay.

*Most definitely!!!! Such a great scene all around!!!!*

*Indeed. I'm hopeful that we'll get more ISB. Like a shoe centered around them.*

*Indeed. All of the ISB scenes are really great & my hope is that we'll get an ISB series in the near future.*

*Indeed was such a great scene with these characters & Blevin's shift from victory to defeat within like 2 minutes time.* 😂

*Yup! You're welcome! Glad that this scene stood out a lot to many, including myself. So much great dialog in this one scene that we all can take from in various ways.*

*Definitely. Some great dialog during this scene between the characters.*

She got Best Star Wars, as well as Best Computer Game (oh, and an "Olivier Award", whatever that means ,,,)

*Indeed! Dedra is such a great character for sure!*

From 'The Witcher'?

@@nickmitsialis Yup, that's Yenn's voice actress

@@Akeldama9 lol! I thought you meant the TV show

@@filthydisgustingape5354 we don't mention that netflix show that is filled with absolute miscasts and terrible writers

Cope harder.

@@sodadrinker89 Cope about what?

Well said

*I do root for the Empire as well as the Jedi & the Sith. I especially root for the Empire because Thrawn(my favorite NON-FORCE user in the galaxy) is part of the Empire. I am hopeful that we'll see Agent Kallus & at least a mention of Thrawn in the show. If they don't mental him, it's fine. But, my heart will be joyful if it does. I have said that I was hopeful to see Yularen on the Andor series & we got him in yesterday's episode. So, I'm a happy star wars fan.*

@@starwarsunlimiteduniverse oh I'd love to see Thrawn paired up with Dedra. He would truly appreciate her competence and creative problem solving skills.