“I’ve my mind a sunless space.”

Passionate, to be sure. But it sounds like he says "sunrice".

There's an ancient Greek saying, "A society grows great when old men plant trees in whose shade they shall never sit."

That's legacy for you

Every word gave me chills. It builds up to that last word, "Everything!". He hasn't had to look in the mirror for a long time, and when he's asked to, he's both horrified and infuriated by what he has become. True to human nature. People like this exist, this is a look into the mind of a revolutionary whether they're right or wrong

Snooze fest more like 😴

@@philcorrigan5641 Lovely bait

It's because it is. Andor, rogue one and some Clone wars arcs are the best that star wars has in terms of script. The other products, although are good, are quite simple, an example is The Mandalorian (which is very good) that its episodes are all the same

What recognitions? I like the show but it's not getting exactly the love people think it is.

@@Mertaranta IGN rated it as the best premiered series of the year, at the golden globes Diego Luna was nominated for best actor for Andor, at the critics choice awards the series was nominated to compete against Better Call Saul and House of the Dragon.

Yes! Best Disney sw movie was Tony gilory now andor is also Tony gilory!

They won't because hes a man

Technically, Beau Willimon wrote this episode (he worked on House of Cards, which might explain why the dialogue is so good in this arc).

@@thirdcoinedge Its so good in the show itself not just the arc but yea that's fair

@@rileyscheller7739Well, yeah lol, I just meant the Narkina 5 arc because that's when the show really goes from a great show to an excellent show.

Reminds me of Flynn from timeless

He's the Monster in the shadows, that set the stage so the Heroes could walk in the light

He burned his decency for the future of having the New Republic filled with incompetent bozos who get infiltrated by the Imperial Remnant, use unconscionable mind-wipe torture devices, are mired by corruption and bureaucracy, and are ultimately a failed government. The order that the Empire brought was better for the average citizen. Now of course, the Empire was not perfect. But I would argue it was made far worse by the Emperor wanting to cause a lot of pain and suffering. He intentionally made it so most people living in the Empire would have to make these evil choices that pushed them down a path. It is explored in the Alphabet Squadron novels. He wanted all of his soldiers to commit war crimes, to become more and more evil. But without the Emperor, with someone pragmatic like Thrawn in charge, the Empire could have been far more successful than the pathetic New Republic.

​@@weldonwinjust like Batman

To take down the emperor requires to sacrifice yourself completely for a victory you may never see and for people who may never know you even existed. It was true in roman times as much as it is today and probably will be in thousands of years.

Yes.

Fantastic. His performance really brings Andor to a higher level

And yet there are still people out there saying this show was boring 🤦🏾‍♂️🤣. I refuse to believe we watched the same show. Cuz The acting, writing, & directing were amazing!

@@1771soccerstar and the editing as he was going down the elevator 😩the jump cuts when the elevator jolted. My goodness this series was outstanding

@@deshawnsanders8406 I'll be honest I watched the first two episodes and then just let it sit a couple weeks before continuing. However once I gave it another chance I couldn't put it down. So I just assume people that say it was boring didn't watch the entire thing. They didn't give it a chance because of a slow start.

And the door closing. EPIC!!!

"Just stay with me Lonni"

They could have timed this clip a bit better yea. The pause after "Everything!" Is almost just as good as the delivery itself

Would've been even more impactful if he had said "You'll stay with me" instead of "Just stay with me". That'd be a stone cold, chilling thing to say to him because it implies both the foresight and certainty that he will, and is also a subtle threat

It also shows us why Luthen surrounds himself with people like Lonni, Vel and Mon Mothma cause despite the good he's done he doesn't see himself as a hero

People that say Andor was boring also think Boondock Saints and Thor 2 were the GOAT movies. Only boring people find things like this boring.

Andor is, without a doubt, a wake-up call that not everything must be about the same Sith-Jedi, crime wars, sth we all are accustomed to. This shows the hardships of making an underground organisation. How could anyone say "meh" or "it wasn't good enough" to it? Yes, the first episodes were more backstory based, but they were essential.

I loved this show, but tons of my friends found it boring. Saddens me.

Andor is star wars for grown ups. People who say it was boring seem to be more interested in less complicated story lines with space wizards and flashing sticks. Andor tells the story of the struggle as it affects the rest of the galaxy.

It's a slow burn, that's for sure. But not boring....

I mean, shakespeare didnt write operas, but I see what youre getting at

To be fair, opera was always more music-driven than script-driven, which describes lucas' star wars pretty well

Wow. This is easily the best comment here. What a beautiful resonance between those scenes

Clem tells Andor, "People don't look down when they should." And "A man who sees everything is more blessed the cursed." Luthern looks down, and "there is no longer any ground beneath my feet." The lengths he goes to to support the rebellion, and see's nothing else. He's condemned.

I've seen the season several times, I thought that I was aware of all it's subtleties, and I keep learning new ones all the time thanks to comments like yours. Thank you very much!

I remember watching the robot open up the lens for a the hologram with the people on one side and the empire guards on the other and I got goosebumps thinking "oh this is gonna be wild"

and I bet that the spaceship scene in one of the following episodes consolidated that!

@@ettorereventon2667 But that space lightsaber was so cringe. 😬

@@lukew6725 no u

Same

@@lukew6725 I think the part where he unleashed a mere chaff to destroy the tractor beam, utilizing the tractor beam's pull to accelerate them was the coolest spaceship fight ever in Star Wars. Not only is it a cool trick, it also mirrors some of Luthen's words: "using the enemy's weapon against them" and "the tighter you pull, the more you shot yourself in the face"

And that pause he takes before saying love. Something tells me luthen pushed someone away to keep them away from all this.

@@BeeaReyoU. or lost someone to it. Like a lover who he couldn’t rescue because it would jeopardize the mission. Luthen seems the type to do it, reluctantly

Not only is he sacrificing these emotions, he sacrificing the attempt to even use those emotions. He can’t attempt to live life because of his mission against the Empire

space

Excellent dialogue perfectly delivered by an excellent actor.

This entire episode has a theme of pressure boiling over. It starts with Cassian sawing through the pipe until it burts and leaks. Then the pressure builds among the prisoners as they get ready to escape. Kino starts slow during his speech as it builds and his emotions come bursting through. As the prisoners jump into the water, the overhead shot makes the prison look like an imperial symbol leaking. And Luthens speech, as you said, has the same quality as Kinos, in that the emotions bubbel up like lava.

@@And-Or101 Quite true and well said. You can't demonstrate this kind of tension with just action or just dialogue, it has to have the plausibility that is earned over time. The silences, the history, the real concern on Lonnie's face when he describes his predicament as a spy. Without these things it's just a speech. With them it is just immense.

It's like someone put a mirror in front of him for the first time in decades. He has closed his mind off to any compassion or self-analysis because he had to, to survive. Now it's all coming out. People like this exist, and it's all about the _rage_ within them. That's what drives them forward, wherever it came from. People like him have given the real world the bloodiest revolutions and created both the best and worst governments in history out of the ashes

@@jakeg3733 I didn't want to go that far in a 'first comment' but that is exactly what I was thinking. He's incredibly intelligent but hasn't had cause to contexualize his own life in any perpective. Now, in this scene he does, and he revels in it's absurdity as much as anything else.

This should be top comment cannot stop thinking about history and how this has likely happened many times

This is something I talked about with a friend once regarding WWII movies. You could never stop telling stories about that war. So many stories about so many Luthens and people like that making their sacrifices for a sunrise they never got to see. And that’s just one war. They are many, many others all throughout human history.

@@TheGeorgeD13 When your a kid, you usually think war is glorious, even when you've been told how awful it is. Its not till you get older and actually start to understand the cost of war, that you realize the true sacrifice. I once heard a vet describing his unit being sent to a swamp and how while hiding on his back in some brush, he shot a German soldier that was crawling on the ground and hadn't seen him. The way he described the experience and the shame he had in his voice made me realize how much all those people that fought the Germans sacrificed, so that I wouldn't have to commit such acts against my fellow man.

Managed to deliver a speech similarly to this one during one session of Dnd with my friends nearly a year ago or so, someone of our group decided to be righteous and lecture me on morality, yet it is clear to people that my character truly ruined himself to fight evil however possible to give one real opportunity to sacrifice. Literally nothing left for my character to let people live in peace, and just let loose on my group just real sacrifice for the people despite no respect being given from majority of people’s characters (players themselves loved it all btw, cool people!!!) Great stuff doing it all, it’s truly something else hearing it too

I don't know about best ever - Yoda's teachings to Luke in Empire Strikes Back are pretty amazing - but it's definitely top three.

That's definitely a good observation. I anticipated "everything" was going to be the punchline, but they made the viewer really believe and conclude that was true it before it was even said.

@@fremandn and instead of having a pride in saying 'everything', he seems angry and in agony over it. You feel the true cost of 'everything' for him.

100% this. When i first saw this scene, I already knew that his reply would be "everything!", and I wasnt hoping it wouldnt be, but i did want it to be something more. and thats what we got.

​@@fremandn It's also the tone in which he said it; angry. Not anguished. Even contemptuous. He knows what he's sacrificed, and even if someone doesn't know that, how dare they pose that question as if they do.

Yes. He is not sacrificing his life he is sacrificed his *everything* .

The best in the entire series! IMO

@@ProjectPhenix Solid point Good sir! This series far exceeded any of my expectations.

The best 1 minute and 28 seconds Disney Lucasfilm has produced and the only thing close to it is the rest of this series…god I love this show

@@davidswarckof8025 They're both good, but Andor is just next level.

It sucks because I was with my family over Christmas and I asked them if they had seen Andor and they said they tried it but it was boring. Sadly too many people like explosions and lightsabers and not this kind of brilliant dialogue.

ARE WE BLIND!?

​@@henryhammond7393DEPLOY THE GARRISON!

@@henryhammond7393 DEPLOY THE MENDELSOHN

Same! Orson Krennic was my favourite character from Rogue One, his performance would be so palpable.

I have a feeling there is a good chance we will see him in Season 2.

I had so much respect for him after seeing him in Chernobyl and now this, truly aged like fine wine!! Can't wait for Season 2!

@@ryanator109 Dude he was incredible in Chernobyl, started off hating him and ended up loving him, incredible performance.

Do you like apples?

All ahead Flank enquire to the engineer ….

Not to mention his Dune role as the Baron. Incredible actor, one of the bests of our generation and so underrated along with Willem Dafoe

Except for TCW

@TheGreatEggKing No. Spaceballs isn’t bad, but even its sheer genius comedy is at Phantom Menace level for me (Which is still high for me keep in mind, I think all of the OG 6 are amazing films

@TheGreatEggKing bro spittin facts haha

Yes

@@officialmonarchmusic dude I love tcw but andor BLOWS the writing and acting out of the park. You cannot even compare an animated show made for kids to a drama such as this.

I grin every time I rewatch this moment! In fact, there are plenty of moments in Andor that truly make me laugh out of being impressed! Like the prison breakout, Brasso doing his Wookiee style battle cry, the escape from Aldhani during the heist episode. So many great moments in this show that I will have no trouble remembering because of how good they were!

It stands the hair on my arms up!

As a person who has studied psychology for years, I like this speech more than Shakespeare, because I believe this speech is more based on the reality of psychology.

Certainly not. It would require that he be as good as everyone seems to grossly misinterpret him to be.

@@DoremiFasolatido1979 what are you saying

@@arcadicus_ezevius They're saying Shakespeare is a hack. I feel that was pretty obvious. 😉

It's dark and it feels real. Star Wars took a very dark turn here and I love it

Ayo? repzion himself? Hope everything has been going well for you homes.

Yep. Three amazing monologues in one season (Nemik, Maarva, Luthen). Every single one is miles beyond anything else in the star wars shows or films bar none. It's unparalleled.

@@IshtarNike Don't forget about Kino Loy monologue too

One. Way. Out.

All credit goes to Tony Gilroy. HE is an *incredible* writer.

Or job interviews, if they ask you what are you prepared to sacrifice 😂

ever

Only "Tears in the Rain" is better in my list... And maybe Mr.President in Independence Day :P ...hahaa.

You know this show's crazy when you can bring up another speech from the same episode

the "i hate sand" speech bro

The Clone Wars had some really good dialogue. Captain Rex gave some good speeches.

@@firingallcylinders2949 but nothing near this level

"I love democracy..."

The best description of why this is so good I have seen.

@@perhamill Oh yeah the Disney plus department has screwed up from the start and still do. Some parts are definitely aware of the excellence that is Andor, but many parts are not.

maybe they should've licensed it to Netflix or HBO. Not having this as the 1st thing on the app is such a shame. I get that D+ is a kids/family audience, so license it out

I'm so glad they don't, or I'd give a 50/50 chance they'd shut it down. The entire theme of this show is actually quite adversarial to entities like Disney. It'd be more appropriate to credit the writers, etc.

​@@nutmegriot209That would require them to give up money.....

... "My desert... My Arrakis... My DUNE!"

Check out River, if you haven't already.

Dragon tattoo

Even as Bootstrap Bill in Pirates of the Caribbean he was a standout

I totally forgot he was in Chernobyl!

I think it won best drama series in some award

I can agree on that

It's not exactly a high bar Disney set for themselves.

@@BoneistJ No, but Andor set a high bar for sure. This wasn't just a good SW series. It was a good tv series period. On par with HBO. Everyone involved on this series needs a promotion.

@@LordSesshaku that Ferrix bell tower ringer needs a promotion for doing his job well and fricking spartan kicking a stormtrooper off the edge!

i would see a show of him and the things that drove him to this point.

What chernobyl watermen would have thought when they went in to drain the tanks

For years I wished for a mature take on Star Wars, Andor proved it works perfectly, unfortunately it didn’t got the appreciation it deserves

Mandalorian is solid but yea Andor took it to the next level even

Yeah its not even close. Some Disney Plus stuff is cool or entertaining, but Andor is one of those shows that etches itself into your consciousness for a lifetime.

It's because it feels so grounded, i love the mandalorian but i wish it was dark and gritty like Andor. Star wars needs more content aimed at adults

@@2jz-boi It's because fascism is on the rise, and this is an epic portrayal of what people are seeing. People being sacrificed by the soulless machine of oppression to amass power for an elite few, and countless scum that enable their atrocities in order to live slightly more comfortably than those around them.

id say its the best star wars piece hands down... only reason it cant just be the best overall is cuz the og trilogy and prequels started the whole awesome universe

Disney is doing SW for all & not just one

Im scared of season 2. Maybe they will fumble or maybe not

@@tygrenvoltaris4782considering how bad Asoka is rn I have little hope

Its not Disney, its the writers and the rest of Disney's employees. This show's themes are remarkably antagonistic to what Disney as an entity stands for, and every person in the credits impressively created something inspirational and subversive right under its nose.

As another commentor @Juan Antonio said there are probably plenty of people like him all throughout our real life history, I would bet on it. Not all heroes are good. People out there willing to sacrifice everything and do unspeakable things for the sake of humanity and others

​@Will Wunsche Arguably sacrificing your humanity is a bigger and deeper sacrifice than your life, as it effectively destroys everything that you are.

@@Relugus Sacrificing your humanity is a good way to put it

"Not the [thing] we wanted but the [thing] we needed" is getting very obnoxious. Wish people would cool it with that.

All within a single season. Shows you what Star Wars can really be if you don’t water it down for mass consumption

nemiks manifesto is the best for me though

It was in development, Star Wars Underworld

Bail had too little to do in Obi-Wan, we need him in Andor.

He's one of the only people Mon Mothma trusts 100%, so that would make sense.

Pretty good chance he will be in Season 2 I think.

i think this is basically a guarantee at some point

Sure they're practically the extremist, near-terrorist wings of the rebellion, but it's pretty great seeing the differences in Saw and Luthen's approach to it. Having Bail and his measured, diplomatic approach would make for a good contrast to Luthen.

Very, very insightful.

Chirrut to Cassian in Rogue One: "There is more than one kind of prison. I sense you take yours wherever you go." Dang they really brought that back. They do a really good job tying little things back to Rogue One in a meaningful way.

Empire still exists under thrawn

"If only they decided to roll on with the 5 seasons ... I really don't see why they did that." Tony Gilroy didn't want to commit to 5 and I think that's for the best. People constantly complain about filler episodes when a show has to fill a quota. I think that's what would happen with 5 seasons or 5 movies. Would the quality be there,would it be consistent? Hell, even The Wire and The Soprano's struggled with this at times and they barely squeaked through. Would I love 5 seasons? Absolutely. Do I want a cohesive story in 2 seasons that leads up to Rogue One? I want that more.

@@dreadsocialistroberts Unfortunately, that's not quite right: Tony Gilroy already wanted to produce 5 seasons (each season should cover one year and then lead up to R1); however, Diego Luna did not want to commit for more than five years to play a role. In this regard, I don't know how tight Diego Luna's acting/working plan is. ;)

Well he apparently shot this scene 10 times before he was satisfied with the performance so you know he wanted to do the writing the justice it deserved.

The writer of Andor did the HBO miniseries Chernobyl, "with this same actor," who also gave a monologue at the end of Chernobyl that was just as good. Look it up.

'The ego that started this fight'.. Omg what a line ..

Don't forget Fiona Shaw.

@bmueller01 very true! Glad you mentioned

Star wars has a lot of political references so i wouldn't be surprised

I watched Boba Fett immediately after watching Arcane. Arcane was another one of those shows that almost never wastes a second. Every scene is building the world or developing a character more or moving the plot forward. Nothing wasted and all the scenes flowed so smoothly. Then there was Boba Fett. There was stuff I liked but seeing a show done right just made all the mistakes and missing stuff more apparent.

Definitely, it scares me that there are still people who say Mando is better than this masterpiece of a show, im not looking forward to Ahsoka, it looks and feels like another cheap, goofy, dull fanservicy "story". Andor is just puuuure quality.

​@@12stack73Agreed. Excited to see Ahsoka, though, at least a bit, as I love Rebels and really want to see Ezra and Sabine again