“James wiseman is the softest center” Deandre Ayton: “hold my bee…soda”

There are some people comparing Killian Hayes' career trajectory to Ricky Rubio but I think that's insulting to Rubio IMO the guy has multiple seasons scoring at least 10 ppg and also having multiple seasons having 8apg he's also a starting caliber PG in the NBA most of his career

Patrick Williams is another example of Bulls doing a poor job of developing young talent. Markkanen, and Kris Dunn never improved while they were here, and it took five seasons for Coby White to become a solid starting player. Pat Williams and Ayo Dosunmu’s development mirrors that of Markkanen. Dalen Terry hardly played his rookie season and is now averaging about 10 mins a game his sophomore year. Zach Lavine is the only success story the Bulls have but I would argue that he came pretty developed already he just needed a team where he would have more touches of the ball. Something tells me the reason AK doesn’t blow it up and rebuild is because he either doesn’t have confidence in his ability to draft or (the more likely reason) he doesn’t have faith in developing young players

Its hard to say Davion "killed" his team - Or is even the worst person on the kings. He's still an amazing defender, and was really great in the playoffs, hitting a dagger in game 2, and in that game holding Curry to shooting splits that would make Killian Hayes blush. The issue is that the Kings are a guard heavy team, and that his best upside being defense is kinda negated by the fact that Keegan Murray is also becoming a high level defender, who can handle the ball just as well and is way better as a shooter. Davion's numbers, along with his minutes, have been steadily going up.

Man Golden State drafting killed their dynasty after having a golden generation of drafting the core of said dynasty!! Crazy!!

Why Davion is in this list? He is a defender, back up PG. He is not hurting his team when he is doing his role.

Damn bro hates killian hayes 🤣 I get it tho.

Andy had no reason goin for Wiseman’s life like that lmfaooo

All motivation that Poole had went out his body with that Draymond punch

You can tell Andy dont actually watch the Bulls lol. Pat's role isnt to score because they have other guys who specialize in it. When Pat was called to do it he can do it just fine.

I can't agree with what you saying about pat you can't expect a player to develop when you have 2 ball hogs Lavine and DeRozan and when Lavine was out he scored consistent 20 point a game

Who's here after Killian got waived 😂

i dont think Davion is hurting the kings he is only getting a handful of minutes and a lot of DNP's. he was great his rookie year but his shoot has gotten worst over time.

I’m absolutely in the dark on what led to Killian being drafted so high, he shot like 30% from three overseas but they where talking about him like he was Harden

Killing his own team Hayes

Williams is the type of player many teams want next to their stars. He's not the star that a top 4 pick should be, but he's the epitome of three-and-D. His three point percentage is elite, and he's a good defender. He has some similarity to Finney-Smith, though he's a better shooter and hasn't developed as well on defense. He's young enough that he could still get much better, but even as is, many teams would love to add him in the mix.

Davion has found his way back into the rotation as of recently and has played extremely well. He does what we drafted him to do defensively. His shot will come with more min and i love him but know he can excel as a starter

I’m surprised Dwight Powell from the Dallas Mavericks didn’t make this list. I mean come on the man broke Kyrie’s leg and has been a most mid big man in the entire NBA I know bro got drafted in like 2014 but still. He’s over stayed his welcome from far too long.

Man I've said this for a while. If Golden State had drafted Melo then their number twelve pick the next year is probably off the table. But their seventh pick the following year stays where it is because it was The Wolves pick from the DLo trade. Just imagine that team today with Melo and Franz Wagner who they could have taken over Kuminga 🤯

Excellent video as always! I love the more in depth nature of this longer type of video. Your efforts are appreciated!

I’m enjoying the longer videos. It especially great when I’m at work and don’t have to worry about picking back up my phone after 5 minutes haha

It’s so crazy seeing Reddish struggle offensively when in HS and in College he was viewed as a smooth versatile scorer and even compared to Paul George coming out

I love these longer videos they’re so awesome. Gives me more analysis to put into my head

It’s kinda crazy. 10 years ago teams like the Knicks, jazz, sixers and magic were the bums alongside the pistons. A lot has changed with the others but the pistons remain ass

Patrick Williams is a solid player. You aren't going to score much if you're going to be the fifth scoring option. Is he playing 4th overall worthy? Not really, but there have been worse. Should the Bulls move on from Vucevic, DeRozan, Lavine and tank once they have full control of their picks again, I think Patrick Williams could be the next Luol Deng for the team.

You could almost put Jalen Green on the list...almost 😅👀

I love the longer videos. Keep up the great work.

Thought he was about to talk about some NBA Serial Krillers. But every bust pick would drop 40 in an open gym😂

Always love your vid always insightful

I swear I just saw a girl coming from Germany ONLY to see Killian Hayes and then this video shows up XDXDXD Talk about life

Great video I liked all the metrics you shared to make the case of how bad these players are playing.

Great video. Like this new long video format.

You clearly don’t watch the Kings

Should have included DeAndre Ayton 😂

If you tracked Cam's progression at Duke then his NBA turnout isn't surprising. He started the season hot but quickly became a non-factor. I think a lot of people thought he was overlooked because he was a 3rd option on a team with a trigger happy RJ Barrett and obviously, Zion was a dog that season but even as a 3rd option, Cam was shooting under 40% from the field and 33% from 3 I believe. I think he needed another year or two before he came out tbh but I get that he wanted the money and felt like he was ready

Golden State warriors even drafting killed their dynasty after having a much incredible generation of drafting their own core , how crazy is that truly

We fw the new content Andy Keep it up and go knicks

I like the longer videos, Ill always watch al the way through

We appreciate the longer videos💯

Definitely liked the doughty longer form video. I agree it allowed you explain a lot more than usual.

Bro if I was called bad and useless I'd be done 😭

You lost me at Patrick Williams. He has off games but he’s nowhere near killing our team

Longer videos from you are a pleasure. 😊

Loving longer vids, let's go!

Love the long videos

what about this player? “oh this is when he was drafted. but he sucked. maybe he could become a 3 and D player or go to china. its funny because I don’t watch foreign basketball. he’s bad. very bad.” great video dude

I told people for years when he was drafted Hayes wasn't going to make it.

The biggest issue in Killian is that he is chucking up shots and always make bad decisions. He will be 23 this upcoming offseason. He is chucking up shots after shots and then has tunnel vision and struggles to finish the rim or make passes to his own teammates. his defense is also a liability as he is just an average defender due the lack of lateral quickness which will hurt the team even more. Now anytime if any teams is being guarded by him they can just dribble through his glaring weakness which is mentioned on his defense.

remember when overtime did a small documentary series on Killian hayes thinking he was gonna be an NBA all star

Pwill is solid. He can shoot and defend. That archetype is valuable

Davion Mitchell did not kill the kings , regardless of his weaknesses , he still has valuable strengths like his defensive abilities which is what the kings needs the most , so far he is still improving his skills nonetheless.

Even though you’re not posting on Wednesday’s anymore, We love the long videos Andy 🫡🐐

When you got Steph Curry, Klay Thompson and Draymond Green on your team, you are anything but "under pressure". Poole is similar to Duncan Robinson - very good at one thing and when that thing disappears, they become a trade chip

i think davion just needs a change of scenery. he'll be a solid backup PG

darius garland was basically the worst player in the league a couple of years ago but now he's ballin, so we shouldnt worry abou Scoot yet

I got back here after Killian got waived.

Damn, having worse bpm than Shaqtin a Poole... I feel bad for Scoot.

That's a harsh reality to hear if you're that player mentioned in this video.

A couple of these guys are defensive specialists who are bad only on one side of the ball. Hayes, for example, is actually a good and versatile defender, which is a big reason why he gets minutes. He also is a decent table-setter and play caller. As was mentioned, he can run the pick-and-roll. As bad as his offense has been, he has improved every year, which is another sign that he could carve out a role in the league. His rookie contract is almost done, so what's left of this season really will affect his future in the NBA, or lack thereof.

Good vid

I told people Cam wasnt it since his first week at Duke. Those people are STILL holding out hope. It's embarrassing smh. Salute to Cam for succeeding at life though.

Longer Andy Hoops videos oh yes

some players get hyped way too much but end up not having what it takes to be at the NBA level...

I checked out after the Bulls drafted Williams. Never understood the pick. Being a Bulls fan is tough.

Man you killed those players lmfao. Straight up mean... loved it!

9:05 dis guy Andy giggling 😂

Adding scoot to this list just isn’t right.Darius garland was once the worst player statistically as a rookie and now he is one of the best guards in the league

I was honestly shocked when they gave Ayton a max. I was like "as a rookie who helped get the finals just to lose? I dont agree but ight, best of luck to em" and sure nuff

_On Davion Mitchell:_ if you are a backup PG in your mid 20s who’s 6’1 with a 6’4 wingspan and still can’t shoot or playmake, you might as well play overseas.

No problem. I always enjoy your videos even if it's longer. Btw still waiting for you to make a video about NBA players that once dated a celebrity in any point even if it's briefly (ex. Andre Drummond and Jennette McCurdy).

Cam Reddish has a lot of impact on the court his defense is masterful and he’s getting more and more confidence, the teams he was on before never helped with his confidence, he isn’t a bust he’s getting better

I genuinely expected a video about players like Luka Doncic who got drafted by Atlanta Hawks and dropped 73 points on them a few years later. Seeing a bunch of bad players was surprising.

This just makes the timberwolves coming out of the 2020 draft with 2 stars look that much more impressive

damn andy 😂 did not let anyone live in this one

Watching this riiiight after Killian got released.

bro when i saw the thumbnail+name i was thinking of a pistons disaster draft video💀💀💀(if you know what i mean then you know what i mean lmao)

truly tho that's a harsh reality to hear if you're this player mentioned in this video honestly

0:08 LOL stripped him clean :D

You went in on Wiseman

Draymond is one of the greatest defenders of our era but he will be remembered as the draymond that we know today, the guy that can't control himself from hurting other players and the Guy that killed the warriors dynasty.

only reason cam reddish looks bad in LA is cause hes being forced into a 3/d role...hes shown flashes on offense when he's gotten the requisite touches in consecutive games thats allowed him to get in rhythm but his inefficiency has held him back...davion imo is also fine as a pat bev/gabe vincent type

The reason the 2020 draft is gonna have so many ''busts'' and misses is pretty simple (it happened in 2020 and 2021 with the NFL too) it was a weird time with Covid and there being not much irl stuff

"not just Killian Hayes" gave me a chuckle

That Wiseman China comment was insane

I always thought cam reddish was gonna be paul george 2.0 🤦‍♂️

I thought Poole was going to be an inefficient 20 ppg scorer on the Wizards. He actually landed in a dream scenario to shine and blew it. A bigger role on his own team with no expectations. Same reason Kuzma is content cashing checks in Washington.

Killian Hayes no IMPROVEMENT HIS SHOOTING

As a Kings fan, everyone knew the Davion pick was bad from the get-go. They drafted Hali the previous year, and already had Fox.

Scoot has improved. The Blazers really had no identity and team chemistry this year which makes it hard for a rookie PG. Coming in and filling Dame's shoes is no pressure, lol.

killian looks my 60ovr when I start 2k

P will was billed as a major reach at the time so it's no surprise he hadn't panned out

Killian is a great playmaker and solid defender his only problem is offense and even that he can hit the mid range and floater while he isn't efficient he can improve especially in a good system that can develop talent like Miami Spurs and Toronto anywhere but Detroit and I bet he develops like he suppose to. Also Killian isn't a scorer he just need to hit the open 3's and he's fine

the 2020 draft class was abysmal, i think this was the first draft without the NBA combine because of quarantine

I read the description and instantly thought..Ben Simmons

I remember watching a Hayes interview on French tv after he got drafted, and thinking how smug is that dude… you can’t succeed as a prospect if you’re not humble

The 2020 draft class has guys like Anthony Edwards, Tyrese Hailiburton, Tyrese MAxey, Lamelo Ball so its not a complete dud

When Andy compared Hayes’s draft profile to Ntilikina’s, it reminded me of the dumbest comment I’ve ever seen on Facebook, or any social media for that matter. I don’t remember the exact words but someone basically said Ntilikina doesn’t get playing time because he’s “too good.” No, I did not just make that up.

I don’t really get the Davion mention based on the general lack of talent that followed. Like Şengün or cam Thomas really all that and very unrealistic spot for them at 9 imo. Şengün and domas would’ve been crazy tho assuming that went down

can someone explain to me how Killian hayes is still in the NBA, I understand the reason for Thanasis but KH makes no sense

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