App Academy Coding Bootcamp Review
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I invited a few App Academy graduates on to talk about the coding bootcamp. We dove into what their experience was like and if it provided the education and support needed to become professional developers. We dove into some really interesting tangents that I absolutely loved. For example, are some coding bootcamps predatory? If so, what does that look like?
Chapters/Topics:
0:00 - Intros
11:36 - What was the application process like?
18:11 - Do you feel like it’s good, for the students, that they made it easier to get in?
20:30 - What did you think of the curriculum?
38:26 - What’d you think of the instructors?
1:05:57 - What could be improved?
1:13:30 - Is aiming for a FANG company overhyped?
1:19:07 - Outros
Guests:
Peter Choi - / peterchoi24
Aaron Zick - / amzick
Nicolas Schneider - / nicolas-schneider-01
@luisandraa.6747 3 жыл бұрын
appreciate hearing honest reviews from actual alumnis, keep doing these
@DonTheDeveloper 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Luisandra for letting me know. Will do!
@martinjohnson9642 3 жыл бұрын
The discussions you have with the bootcamp alumni is very honest and useful. I get a lot out of each episode. Thanks
@DonTheDeveloper 3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad to hear that! Thank you.
@hnyuhiv Жыл бұрын
Peter actually spitting facts about me as a rising senior in college, glad I found the App Academy Open this summer lol
@mikyhtx 3 жыл бұрын
I'm currently in week 14 of the online program with no college or high school degree. I'm having so much fun, but i'm putting in about 12 hours a day. Totally worth it.
@DonTheDeveloper 3 жыл бұрын
If you're able to put 12 hours a day, you are absolutely on the path to becoming a developer. That's awesome!
@heyohblahface 3 жыл бұрын
Did you have any previous coding experience at all??
@mikyhtx 3 жыл бұрын
@@heyohblahface Nope none at all ! Im on week 20 now ! 4 more weeks to go and I'm done !
@heyohblahface 3 жыл бұрын
@@mikyhtx Wow, congrats! That gives me a little hope, thank you. =) I've just started applying to the 24 week program starting in Feb 2021. I've no experience and haven't been in school/college for almost a decade. I'm pretty nervous about understanding the concepts, but feel that I'm prepared for the study load. All my research online certainly makes it seem daunting.
@mikyhtx 3 жыл бұрын
@@shameermulji nope, none at all. I barely got in because the cohort was about to start . I only had one week to prep and I used that time to quit my job.
@anonuser7303 2 жыл бұрын
Just throwing this out there that aA has been reported on twice to Better Business Bureau, never does CIRR, & has two sets of reviews on google maps (one is found by searching their name with google maps, vs going straight to maps then location)
2 жыл бұрын
I took a course in programming who tought me both C# and Phyton. I had a harder time with Python because it was not defined. My teacher told me that most people tought the other way around. In Sweden we have a middleground between a computer science degree and a bootcamp that a lot of people take as a fast track. Going to colleage in Sweden is free. You can take a loan with low interest if you need to cover living expences and stuff but the tuition is free so most people get a degree of some kind.
@curtisdavis8594 2 жыл бұрын
Good Q& A about App Academy experience.. Thx
@malcolmabbott2910 Жыл бұрын
@DonTheDeveloper , i wanted to ask you since you've done a decent amount of podcasts asking people about their bootcamp experiences, you have a top 5/top 3 list of bootcamps that you would recommend? Have self studied html , css and some bootstrap so far and am looking for the best bootcamp I can go to in Southern California
@jewelsoncagakit771 3 жыл бұрын
I would love to hear from all the interviewed alumni their answer on: If their bootcamp academies offers an expanded level (making them more "experts"- curriculum) of learning (aligned with the technologies/language taught), would they onboard themselves again one more time?
@DonTheDeveloper 3 жыл бұрын
Feel free to contact one of them. Linkedin links should be in the details.
@jamesvongampai5592 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this. I stumbled upon this and I am starting on Nov 16, 2020! Very excited. The interview process was definitely way better than Lambda School, Springboard, and Coding Dojo. So far I am very impressed with the way they conducted the whole interview process. I loved the interview panel you did. Very very insightful! You should also put in your video title "2020 a/A coding bootcamp...or something 2020? What do you think about that?
@DonTheDeveloper 3 жыл бұрын
Congrats! I like that you went through a few interview processes to be able to compare as well. You know.. that's a really good idea. I've done that for a previous coding bootcamp review I did, and it turned out to be the right call. I'll try that for a few weeks and take a look at the analytics. Thanks for the suggestion.
@az-yd3jd 3 жыл бұрын
We're all in the a/A slack so don't hesitate to reach out there or on Linked in if you need help with anything during the bootcamp
@heyohblahface 3 жыл бұрын
@@u-l-t-i The fit interview was a breeze. Just have good energy, be humble, and hungry to learn. =) For my zoom call it was only one woman who literally read off a script and showed little to no personality lol. It all felt robotic and easy. Good luck!
@Dedition 3 жыл бұрын
Hey; it's 8 months later. Would love to hear your feedback. Have you found a job? How was the camp? Anything else?
@some5794 2 жыл бұрын
@@az-yd3jd Do you recommend it??? And, if you hadn't chosen App Academy, which bootcamp would have you chosen?
@digitalpalettemedia 3 жыл бұрын
I'm currently learning Java on my own, and doing a lot of research on what boot camp would fit me personally, since I currently live in AZ. I'm leaning heavily into App Academy, because of the six month curriculum structure. Nicolas brought up some interesting points, as I was looking into using their ISA program as well. Seems a bit scary, but I'm really driven to make this my career. While learning Java through a Udemy masterclass, I find my singular issue is not understanding what exact step to take to get my required output(I grasp the concepts, but I blank on the how from time to time). I'm currently only in my second week of studying it, but is that something that will come with time? Or is that something that will be a challenge for me personally as a developer in general? I really appreciate any advice you have, Don.
@DonTheDeveloper 3 жыл бұрын
That'll come with experience.
@Mxrclxrk 3 жыл бұрын
How much does contract pay makes?
@ThyDoctoh 3 жыл бұрын
Just applied. Fingers crossed. Got my coding challenge next week.
@DonTheDeveloper 3 жыл бұрын
Good luck!
@Daisika 2 жыл бұрын
How did it go?
@Mxrclxrk 3 жыл бұрын
How did you all make at these small companies?
@zay_y 2 жыл бұрын
Is app academy software engineer course good for someone who wants to specifically pursue web development or just front end ?
@dayhawka2390 3 жыл бұрын
Please do Tech Elevator Bootcamp, I was not able to find any grads reviews.. Thanks
@DonTheDeveloper 3 жыл бұрын
I'll keep it in mind. Thanks for the suggestion.
@luisl8851 3 жыл бұрын
They have cirr report nonetheless.
@davyrockxx1563 3 жыл бұрын
I'm interested in coding as a career and need help deciding which way to start. What to do? I have absolutely no experience in coding but understand the very bare-bones basic theory of strings of code that build blocks that build software and other web stuff i think?
@DonTheDeveloper 3 жыл бұрын
While it's frontend focused, I'd check out the following episode. We go into what to do when you're still deciding which path to narrow down when you realize you enjoy coding. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fLRjo5Ry2Zadh4U.html
@davyrockxx1563 3 жыл бұрын
@@DonTheDeveloper Thanks! i'll check it out.
@TheSleepySkater 2 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know if App Academy changed their ISA requirements since this video? their site says 31k over 3 years.
@mar-17905 2 жыл бұрын
At that price you might as well just get a CS degree
@richardbassalian5430 3 жыл бұрын
Hey, a/A focuses on ruby and java, do you think ruby jobs are still in demand? Wouldn’t it be better to go through a bootcamp that does python as well? Thanks!
@DonTheDeveloper 3 жыл бұрын
In Chicago, I can say for certain that you're more marketable with other languages that aren't Ruby. You have to look at your local area. Check out job postings on job sites like indeed and look at their requirements. I'd even recommend you create a spreadsheet and tally up different language requirements in the areas in which you'd accept a job.
@artdog73 3 жыл бұрын
The 24-week program includes Python now, just fyi!
@Its_me_wish 3 жыл бұрын
I'm starting Nov. 30th. Taking the 24 week online. Quick question..I know it's an over asked question, but I think you could answer it best specifically for a/A. Mac or PC? (P.s. I know Windows and OSX both equally well..but currently have a PC for budget reasons. I could stretch it and get a mac if the reward outweighs the cost. What's your take?)
@DonTheDeveloper 3 жыл бұрын
For App Academy? I have no idea. You should contact an advisor for that. What I can tell you is that I made it through most of Fullstack Academy with a Chromebook. Almost everything is available in the cloud now, including servers and code editors.
@Its_me_wish 3 жыл бұрын
@@DonTheDeveloper cool, thanks. I have a newer lower end HP. Just not wanting to run into any issues where I just wouldn't be able to do certain assignments, etc. Appreciate the response.
@GentleUwU 3 жыл бұрын
I got a new mac desktop for app academy when I attended. (2019) Turned out a ton of my batch mates used linux and had no issues. TL;DR you don't need a mac. It won't help you enough to justify the price. But if you want one, get one.
@Its_me_wish 3 жыл бұрын
@@GentleUwU thank you so much for the advice. I come from an audio engineering background..so I've worked on fully loaded mac desktops, macbook pro's, etc. because it was pretty much industry standard. Definitely will always choose mac over pc if the choice is available. Money is just an issue atm. I was more asking because am completely unsure of how performance intensive coding is? Coming from audio I have ran into so many projects where we are maxing out 16gigs of ram and clipping processing power on 8core i7's during large sessions. I've gathered since posting my first comment that coding isn't quite that hardware demanding and I should be able to get through bootcamp with what I have hopefully. I was just anxious and not wanting to find myself in situations during bootcamp where my laptop can't handle an assignment/project 😩 lol. I will definitely be upgrading to a macbook when Im comfortably able to again though.
@GentleUwU 3 жыл бұрын
@@Its_me_wish Only thing better hardware can do for you is have code tests run faster on your computer. Now that I'm working in the industry, better hardware helps open large excel files faster/less crashing lol
@iSWATxJOKERi 3 жыл бұрын
Nice video! I'm an alumni myself and I think one of the reasons why they choose graduates is because why not? They know the curriculum, they don't need to hire a software engineer with work experience who knows nothing about the curriculum and teach him, who then has to teach us. Just doesn't make sense as that software engineer can also leave and the cycle repeats. My cohort was remote due to the circumstances this year and I can say the instructors did an amazing job, answered all our questions, and mentored us and when it was time to cut off the training wheels they did just that and we had to figure out our projects on our own and consult each other and google for help. There's no need to hire outside software engineers to come teach the students, just doesn't make sense.
@DonTheDeveloper 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve been fortunate enough to meet many coding boot camp instructors over the past few years. I’ve noticed a huge difference in quality of instructors that had real world experience vs not. It’s very easy to convince someone to forget about their original goal of actually being a software engineer when you’ve nurtured and molded them into feeling like they were meant to put that on hold and teach at the coding boot camp instead. I’ve talked to a few people that have expressed their regret in doing that. All of them had some sort of confidence issues about becoming a developer, which motivated them to just take an instructor or even fellowship position for the time being. If you can convince someone to come back and teach, when their main goal was to become a software engineer, and pay them less than what they could be making, that’s predatory. Coding boot camps are businesses and many of these offers extended to graduates aren’t always as wholesome and as rewarding as they appear. From a business perspective, I agree with you. It’s genius.
@iSWATxJOKERi 3 жыл бұрын
@@DonTheDeveloper Right, I agree in terms of bootcamps in general but I was specifically talking about App Academy. From my experience with the instructors I had, their passion for teaching us, helping us and etc. they want to be there. Yeah it's rigorous for them too but I didn't get the sense not once that it felt like it was something they had to do, more like they wanted to do it. I just graduated in October and there were instructors teaching me that had just graduated a couple months before me and they are definitely capable of getting a job no problem.
@DonTheDeveloper 3 жыл бұрын
@@iSWATxJOKERi It never hurts to have a different opinion. Thanks for sharing it.
@anthonypeters6487 2 жыл бұрын
Do you have to have any coding experience or any knowledge of it before applying?
@DonTheDeveloper 2 жыл бұрын
I'd reach out to their admissions to get a better understanding of their expectations and requirements.
@thexceo8592 3 жыл бұрын
I’m starting November 2, 2020
@DonTheDeveloper 3 жыл бұрын
Good luck!
@thexceo8592 3 жыл бұрын
@@DonTheDeveloper thanks
@christiancozma627 3 жыл бұрын
@@thexceo8592 How is it so far? I'm starting on Dec. 7th
@thexceo8592 3 жыл бұрын
@@christiancozma627 it was great til I didn’t have power for a few days and I had to defer back into the December 7 cohort. Try to practice JavaScript now just to get a head start
@thexceo8592 3 жыл бұрын
@@christiancozma627 freecode camp and code academy are good places
@seymour_videos 3 жыл бұрын
Little robots?? You mean smart locks bro???
@peterchoi4791 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah haha I think the technical term for it is "access control unit" lol
@saucy05 3 жыл бұрын
Top left guy "Nikolas" strikes me as a pretentious dude. Would not enjoy working with him.
@themichaeljoel 3 жыл бұрын
I see your point. I think he also is just trying to show us what he's learned + dumping all the insight he's learned to people like myself that know nothing about coding.
@timothyjao970 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed he's the type of person who just tries to monopolize the conversation
@Psilocy-ben 2 жыл бұрын
+1. Stopped watching the video because of him
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