Apple M4 could be just WEEKS AWAY… 👀

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iCaveDave

iCaveDave

17 күн бұрын

Okay Gurman, if you’re right, all is forgiven.
In Uncle Mark’s Newsletter of occasional joy this week, he casually dropped the bombshell that he’s hearing and I quote, a STRONG POSSIBILITY that the iPad Pro set to be introduced on May 7th won’t be powered by the M3 in a way that would make sense, but ACTUALLY be the first M4 device on sale.
What now?
It’s a confusing move. Not just because everyone has been saying forever that iPad Pro already has way more power than it can make use of. It’s the software everyone wants fixing. So here we are, with the latest generation of Apple silicon coming first to Apple’s least computer… computer.
Mark Gurman of Bloomberg had said before that part of the hold up had been for a special version of iOS 17.5 for these iPads, which, if you’re changing to a completely new chip inside, that could make sense. But what is that version going to add ahead of WWDC when iOS & iPadOS 18 will be revealed? I mean, maybe a way to run Mac Apps on iPad Pro? That would make a few people sit up and pay attention.
And no, I’m not talking about running MacOS. I’m talking about something like Catalyst, the way Apple allowed iPad apps to be easily wrapped up and ported to the Mac. So at the point of creating your binary, perhaps Xcode could bundle any required frameworks that the iPad wouldn’t otherwise have, and adjust some touch targets? That could be pretty cool.
What else would fix iPad for the detractors? Just let it have Finder so you can browse files and move stuff around like a Mac, instead of the honestly piss weak “Files” which is about adequate for the iPhone, but not so much iPad Pro.
Another thing that would be pretty great is if you could do all the external Pro-Res Video recording with iPad Pro that iPhone 15 Pro got last year, and allowing Final Cut Pro to edit from said external drive so you don’t need infinite on board storage.
That stuff would all make sense. But why start in the iPad Pro? Because it’s been heavily criticised by reviewers recently, just like the 13” MacBook Pro was. And guess what, if you wanted to try the M2 early on, it arrived first in that MacBook Pro, ahead of the M2 MacBook Air redesign. And with M3, you could get it first in the new 14” MacBook Pro. Apple is forcing reviewers to talk about their new iPad stuff if they want access to the latest chip. Tim Cook is a crafty one.
Not only that, It’ll also have all that happy happy AI goodness we’ve been hearing about this side of WWDC, meaning they can talk about the capability of these new chips earlier. I’d not be surprised if we see at least one Mac with M4 at WWDC as well… or what if we got a Mac mini with it in May… No, don’t get your hopes up Dave.
We also heard the chip process being used for M3 was having yield issues, while the new M4 will be on a more reliable and improved node, which may explain why we didn’t see the bigger ultra or Extreme chips with that process - it may actually be cheaper for Apple to make M4 chips than M3 was.
PLUS - Getting it out before June means they’ll beat the Snapdragon X Elite to market too, which looks like it may be quicker than M3, so what a fun little poke for that to already be last generation before the Elite gets here, assuming the M4 can outpace it.
So, there we go. M4 iPad Pros could make sense. This is of course unconfirmed, but Gurman, at least when not talking about dates tends to be about as reliable as rumours get, just like the concept of this new Apple Pencil getting haptics at the event too.
With Apple’s first AI forward device, May 7th just got WAY more interesting.
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@johnadams6249
@johnadams6249 15 күн бұрын
tip from someone who watched youtube videos, don’t use multiple camera perspectives unless you’re ACTUALLY gonna show something. It’s okay in documentaries, but just barely and generally is best used when cutting back from B roll, or something else, not just changing cameras while looking at the same person. Generally it’s just distracting.
@iCaveDave
@iCaveDave 14 күн бұрын
Yeah I didn't nail it here!
@ChristopherGavin
@ChristopherGavin 15 күн бұрын
"piss-weak Files" lol
@iCaveDave
@iCaveDave 15 күн бұрын
Tell me I'm wrong. ;)
@Everyday-man
@Everyday-man 15 күн бұрын
Finder sucks, but Files app definitely needs some more work
@erwinmeisel2545
@erwinmeisel2545 15 күн бұрын
We heard so many contradicting rumors about the new iPads. We will know for sure on May 7th.
@iCaveDave
@iCaveDave 12 күн бұрын
Sure will! I think it'd gonna be a better event than people expected!
@JustinFYI
@JustinFYI 15 күн бұрын
Great takes as always! Exciting news 🎉
@iCaveDave
@iCaveDave 15 күн бұрын
Thanks so much!
@TheBasementChannel
@TheBasementChannel 15 күн бұрын
What’s with the earhole cam? 😂
@iCaveDave
@iCaveDave 15 күн бұрын
I was told I needed a second camera angle. I just chose a bad one.
@ZadiesLIVE
@ZadiesLIVE 15 күн бұрын
iCaveDave, I really enjoyed watching this, so I hit the like button!
@iCaveDave
@iCaveDave 15 күн бұрын
Thanks for the visit
@alexblankenship7385
@alexblankenship7385 15 күн бұрын
I really hope this is the case. I really want to see an M4 Pro powered iMac 28" in Space Black and a Promotion 120hz display
@iCaveDave
@iCaveDave 15 күн бұрын
I mean, I think you'll get an M4 iPad... Bigger iMacs are feeling like they make more sense now, but the supply chain isn't backing it up yet
@ruschein
@ruschein 15 күн бұрын
I don't think it's a confusing move because I wouldn't even consider buying a new device from Apple w/o the rumored A.I. capabilities that the next iPhones will supposedly get. So, either the coming iPad Pro will have the greatly expanded neural engine or whatever they're going to call it or I will hold off until an iPad Pro that actually offers that will become available. But, of course iPadOS will also have to get some significant improvements making it closer to the capabilities of macOS for me to consider spending another huge chunk of cash for a rather expensive device.
@iCaveDave
@iCaveDave 15 күн бұрын
Yeah I was thinking they'd feel way behind, but then Apple haven't swapped the chip because rumours came out... More likely the difficulties making M3 chips
@carlerickson74
@carlerickson74 15 күн бұрын
M4? Huh? Ok. Like we need a 700 Horsepower Dodge Hellcat that’s governor limited and stuck on local traffic ? lol that’s M4!
@iCaveDave
@iCaveDave 15 күн бұрын
It’s gonna be less about that peak performance for the iPad Pro and more about the massively upgraded AI Neural Engine to power Apple’s on device large language model. That’s the gamechanger
@carlerickson74
@carlerickson74 15 күн бұрын
M4! Yes! Throw us a bone then!
@iCaveDave
@iCaveDave 12 күн бұрын
Bring it on!
@rcarbone65
@rcarbone65 15 күн бұрын
Either IPAD Pro will have a M4 inside or will be released later
@iCaveDave
@iCaveDave 15 күн бұрын
It's coming on May 7th.
@rcarbone65
@rcarbone65 15 күн бұрын
@@iCaveDave Are you sure? Maybe, just maybe, they will release ipad mini and ipad air with M3, the big screen one, on may 7th so don’t canibalize products. And later M4 ipad pro
@iCaveDave
@iCaveDave 15 күн бұрын
@rcarbone65 nah, the supply chain is clear about the OLED Pros, and the Mini will stay on A chips, probably around September
@RemofRenaissance
@RemofRenaissance 15 күн бұрын
Maybe a move to help take off any glory from Microsoft in the event the newly expected Snapdragon X Surface Pros are actually handy competition. A Surface Pro tablet that has better desktop OS functionality and for the first time a competitive chip would be dangerous. So release an updated iPad Pro.... Especially with the AI angle as I am sure Snapdragon will have plenty to say on that too for that Surface Pro release.
@iCaveDave
@iCaveDave 12 күн бұрын
It will be interesting, though leaked benchmarks from the real devices as opposed to what Snapdragon has been saying publicly suggest Apple has little to worry about.
@RemofRenaissance
@RemofRenaissance 12 күн бұрын
@@iCaveDave thanks iCaveDave and (no need to respond) but I’ve noticed in interviews the Snapdragon engineers don’t give away much / answer pertinent qs. So may be something in that. May will be a very interesting month! All the best and great Chanel.
@iCaveDave
@iCaveDave 12 күн бұрын
@RemofRenaissance thanks! (And I always respond! 😉)
@marcguimaraes
@marcguimaraes 15 күн бұрын
Maybe because the M3 chip has been given them so many problems. They have decided to go straight to M4 instead.
@TamasKiss-yk4st
@TamasKiss-yk4st 15 күн бұрын
They didn't even planed to use that in iPad from the start, same as the missing interconnect bridge on the M3 Max, you can be sure there is no M3 Ultra plans for this gen. And for the M3 iPad, the 18 tflops (base M3) AI capability Siri would be more slower like the 35 flops (A17 Pro) AI capacity Siri in the iPhone 15 Pro, so how you want to marketing that, pay use more for the less? They simple just released a few chip with M3 but that N3B is not compatible with the upcoming N3E/N3X/N3P, so no reason to put a lot of effort in that redesign, when they need to redesign it again after the non-standard 3nm become the standard 3nm technology.
@iCaveDave
@iCaveDave 14 күн бұрын
Yep it’s about the manufacturing issues on N3 I believe - but the no-interconnect I think you have wrong. Apple is just moving away from the chip-chop designs, as we saw with the changes in M3 Pro. M3/4 Ultra would just be its own monolithic die
@tonyward9554
@tonyward9554 14 күн бұрын
#Answers - Dave you were excited about the TSMC 3 nanometer chip design! Some commentary suggests APPLE rushed the implementation. Apparently there have been production quality issues. Some suggest heat issues. What issues are you aware of and how does M4 resolve these problems? Why put M4 into an iPad? Commentary suggests the neural processor has become a smaller part of the chip overall M1 to M4. If so, is AI more to do with Marketing?
@kennya6921
@kennya6921 13 күн бұрын
This 'M4': a more power efficient 'mobile first' chipset that straddles the capabilities of mac more evenly with screen/touch based interfaces. Why? Longstanding "ipad too powerful... gimme mac capabilities," the talk of next iphone chips moving M-wards and, crucially, the leading the public in the transition to spatial 'computing' headsets. On the last point, can you see the pencil becoming a spatial/virtual touch interface?
@iCaveDave
@iCaveDave 12 күн бұрын
The iPhone won't get M chips. Just makes no sense, would destroy battery life. they don't need it at all - the iPad DOES make the most of it though, so it's all good. Agreed on spacial pencil though!
@carlerickson74
@carlerickson74 15 күн бұрын
Weeks away?! No, it should be exactly ONE week away!
@iCaveDave
@iCaveDave 15 күн бұрын
Just over a week to the event, release is normally a week later 👍
@coolandgood0062
@coolandgood0062 14 күн бұрын
What do you mean could be weeks away, there is an event scheduled. It is weeks away.
@iCaveDave
@iCaveDave 14 күн бұрын
The M4 is a report, not a confirmation. M4 powered iPads COULD be just weeks away.
@Cute_Maxi
@Cute_Maxi 14 күн бұрын
Doubt
@iCaveDave
@iCaveDave 14 күн бұрын
Can’t argue with that reasoning…
@CristiCroicu
@CristiCroicu 15 күн бұрын
imagine this. Apple just unveiled their macbooks with m3. They spent so much time and effort to make sure they are well received because of the m3. And now, for whatever reason they decide: oh yeah, let's just make ipad with a brand new processor, which should be unveiled in over 6 months. It totally makes sense....not. The actual information you heard might be related to the fact that the ipad pro's will not be released now, but rather the new ipad air. with m2. AAAND, in fall, or next spring (2025) the pros will get the m4 and skip the m3.
@iCaveDave
@iCaveDave 15 күн бұрын
I’ll save this comment and we can chat again on May 8th 😂😂😂. Supply chain has been sending OLED displays to factories for the iPad Pro that will release next Spring? No. iPad Pro AND iPad Air AND new pencil on May 7th. M3 or M4 is the only question mark here for the Pros.
@xray2785
@xray2785 15 күн бұрын
Yay!😊
@iCaveDave
@iCaveDave 15 күн бұрын
Let's GOOOO
@butchgo8930
@butchgo8930 15 күн бұрын
That was what rumor-mongers said earlier this year. Those who saved up ended buying Android devices instead.
@iCaveDave
@iCaveDave 15 күн бұрын
What was? I doubt anyone who was saving for an Apple device actually spent good money on something Android “powered” 😂😂
@butchgo8930
@butchgo8930 14 күн бұрын
@@iCaveDave I was intending to get the new iPad Pro M3 if it came out last March as rumored to be. It did not and Samsung’s price cuts were just too tempting. I bought instead a Samsung Galaxy Tab S9+. And I was surprised I could do more on it than with my iPads.
@attsean1984
@attsean1984 15 күн бұрын
M4 + Price hike
@TamasKiss-yk4st
@TamasKiss-yk4st 15 күн бұрын
Even the iPhone 15 Pro Max price jump was a fake alert.. they just simply removed the 128GB model from the list.. and even the iPhone 11 Pro Max 256GB was $1199 5 years ago too, than how is a price jump if it's the same as 5 years ago..?
@iCaveDave
@iCaveDave 12 күн бұрын
New display tech always gets a price bump on arrival, and sometimes drops on the next gen. I feel this may stay up though.
@stax7977
@stax7977 15 күн бұрын
Does this mean that the iPad Air will get the M3 chip?
@iCaveDave
@iCaveDave 15 күн бұрын
Great question, I really don’t know!
@stax7977
@stax7977 15 күн бұрын
@@iCaveDave I don’t think so, because then the iPad Air would be comparable to the latest gen of MacBooks and I don’t think Apple would want that.
@TheFeedRocket
@TheFeedRocket 15 күн бұрын
Yeah, sounds crazy to release M4 on an iPad first? But what if they are using one of these AI models along with the new M4 to do drawling using the new Apple Pencil. What if they have a new AI drawling App that as you draw enhances your drawling real time? That would be a HUGE selling point. I have used these apps in the browser you draw something like a stick figure and it draws the actual person or animal. Apple always jumps in with these new apps that do what other apps have already done, an art app could be next.
@iCaveDave
@iCaveDave 12 күн бұрын
That's a cool idea! I Have a feeling it could be some more to do with Final Cut and the like - good time to update those apps alongside the iPad Pros, Fingers crossed, though an Apple 1st party art app would be great
@josecarlosleitaofilho5803
@josecarlosleitaofilho5803 15 күн бұрын
Mark Gurman is 99.9% of time mistaken
@iCaveDave
@iCaveDave 15 күн бұрын
Interesting flex to give completely wrong statistics about being wrong.
@seanp7355
@seanp7355 15 күн бұрын
Dave - thanks as always! Good stuff! I think you are missing the reason why they are doing this. Reportedly there is a zero day exploit worked onto the M1-3 chips. So Apple is really getting away from these chips as fast as possible. We, the consumer, benefit - as we will be able to take advantage of the M4 chip earlier. Best, as always.
@joerama
@joerama 15 күн бұрын
+1 Come for the h/w exploit fix, stay for the AI!-)
@iCaveDave
@iCaveDave 15 күн бұрын
Fingers crossed it's fixed in these and they hadn't been fab'd before the exploit was known.
@robblincoln2152
@robblincoln2152 15 күн бұрын
@@iCaveDave my worry too
@KeljaSamiNation
@KeljaSamiNation 15 күн бұрын
M4 ipad this year ? Lol why? Haha too funny
@iCaveDave
@iCaveDave 15 күн бұрын
Because AI and Neural Cores.
@humancaos
@humancaos 15 күн бұрын
you are you wearing glasses without glasses?
@iCaveDave
@iCaveDave 15 күн бұрын
Yes. Reflections are a thing.
@humancaos
@humancaos 15 күн бұрын
@@iCaveDave but why even use them
@WarAlex16
@WarAlex16 15 күн бұрын
Apple is really scared of Snapdragon Elite chips. Snapdragon vs M Series chips will be good for business. AMD and Intel are gonna have to do better
@TamasKiss-yk4st
@TamasKiss-yk4st 15 күн бұрын
Scared? Lol, which part of the leaked data make you think that? They only compared their 12power cores chip against the basic M2/M3 with just 4 power cores, and they are already introduced a cheaper Snapdragon X Plus chip.. so why do you think the X Elite is the Macbook Air competitor..? (Even if they rarely showed you results against the M2/M3 Pro, which still has less amount power cores, but at least with the efficiency cores they are closer in a fair comparison) By the way did you saw the battery results too? 40% extra battery life in Office 365.. what? 40%? Really, that isn't a performance heavy task.. so forget the 15-20hours laptops.. And as for the cheated benchmarks, well we will se how many true about that rumors, but they didn't played well that is sure, there are Cinebench results with power consumption, 23W peak and 23W sustained power for X Elite, but only 19W peak and 8W sustained power for M3.. guess which one had a cooler, and which one was fanless..? Even the M3 can perform better if they use the laptop with cooler too..
@iCaveDave
@iCaveDave 15 күн бұрын
Oh yeah Apple is not afraid at all. I’m definitely ready to see what Intel and AMD bring to the table though, x86 is the ones who should be quaking.
@WarAlex16
@WarAlex16 14 күн бұрын
You make it seem like businesses like Mac OS, iPad OS or iOS. Businesses will be convinced with Elite chips on Windows. Nvidia and AMD will join the ARM chip soon as well. Windows is the future.
@iCaveDave
@iCaveDave 14 күн бұрын
Businesses do like Apple. That’s why current trends show MacOS overtaking Windows in businesses by 2030
@patrickpowell5430
@patrickpowell5430 15 күн бұрын
Christ some folk should really, really, really get a life. Let’s be clear: this is simply an Apple puff to push up sales.
@iCaveDave
@iCaveDave 15 күн бұрын
Yes. Businesses like to announce products because they sell more products… I’m really not sure what your point here is? Am I missing something?
@runeass
@runeass 15 күн бұрын
Maybe, just maybe this guy has been wrong quite a bit. Dont get too hype.
@iCaveDave
@iCaveDave 15 күн бұрын
Only dates, the actual tech is generally accurate.
@kinocchio
@kinocchio 15 күн бұрын
Apple fell off
@iCaveDave
@iCaveDave 15 күн бұрын
What did they fall off of?
@kinocchio
@kinocchio 15 күн бұрын
@@iCaveDave from their title as world’s largest mobile phone seller
@iCaveDave
@iCaveDave 15 күн бұрын
Who beat them? You have a source for that?
@TamasKiss-yk4st
@TamasKiss-yk4st 15 күн бұрын
Somebody sold more $100 phone like the sold amount of $1000 phones by Apple? Or you just fooled by the clickbait videos? Let me tell you, in this time Apple always sell less phone like they usually selling, even Samsung sold more phone with their new S23 phone launch last year, but still at the end of the year still the iPhone 14 Pro Max was the 3rd best selling model on the global list.. so they sold more phone in just 3 months like Samsung sold in 11 months.. so wish good luck to Huaweii, you won't see them on the top 10 best sales list too at the end of this year (you know where the 7-8 iPhones are, and a few 60Hz LCD cheap Android model, those are the models what sold in the biggest amount in that year.. at least in the last 3 years, this was the list..)
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