Apple Unified RAM vs DDR4: The Future or Just Marketing?
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Күн бұрынHow much Faster and more Responsive is 8GB of M1 RAM compared to 8GB of DDR4 and what happens when its Full and has to Swap?
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@MaxTechOfficial 3 жыл бұрын
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@GrandmaHatesTech 3 жыл бұрын
It will smoke if you use it for kindling.
@kyawsithu7298 3 жыл бұрын
is that the thermal pad modified Mac book air ??
@marcin_karwinski 3 жыл бұрын
Do you happen to grasp what the "unified" is used for by marketing Apple department? It's not some unique new RAM type. It's still DDR4, the difference is it is an LPDDR4X variant vs regular DDR4 on most of the PCs (that in terms of the LG is actually as well an 8GB soldered LPDDR4X 4266MHz unit). Unified terminology should be compared to dedicated only, as it means all the computing cores use the same memory and can access its parts without copying data between two or more locations to reduce power inefficient memory data movement tasks... whereas in the Windows machine this means that often parts of RAM are set aside for "iGPU" VRAM whether it's being used or not and many accelerators even if they're storing/sharing the memory are still often employing a copy from one part of RAM to own cache/portion. The lower mem performance on the XPS may stem from both using DDR4 2400 or 2666MHz SODIMMs and using SODIMMs so additional latency giving PCBs/hops and the dedicated/preassigned copying/moving data between parts of the system. And of course the single core and multicore CISC behaviour and multithreading overheads and differences compared to the ARM approach.
@utubekullanicisi 3 жыл бұрын
@@marcin_karwinski Woah, the situation is a lot more complicated than *I hoped* then. Would using non-soldered RAM really give that much of a disadvantage in terms of system responsiveness compared to RAM that is soldered to the motherboard?
@utubekullanicisi 3 жыл бұрын
@@marcin_karwinski Obviously, in the video title Max tried to make the video as clickable as possible by writing “Unified Memory vs. LPDDR4 Memory”, as if the unified RAM actually uses a different type of RAM technology. Afaik it’s 128-bit wide 4267MHz LPDDR4x memory in the M1 Macs. By the way did you mean to say “the lower mem performance on the Gram” instead of “on the XPS” at the end? And what I’m curious about is that does this “expensive” memory copying require a lot of CPU resources, and is that what’s making computers with non-unified memory solutions painfully slow like in this video on the Gram / computers & phones with unified memory solutions so fast in terms of multitasking like on the MBAir?
@ChrisTombstone 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not a fan of Apple whatsoever. The last Apple product I owned was an iPhone 4S. Now it's an M1 Macbook Pro in about a week. Can't deny they did this laptop right.
@Tom_Stevens617 3 жыл бұрын
The Series 4 was an excellent product as well.
@Davidsworldtravels 3 жыл бұрын
Tbh I'd wait for the redesign with the m1x. It will be a huge step up and benefit from new hardware.
@mrtek8095 3 жыл бұрын
@@Davidsworldtravels yeah but they will be waaaaay more expensive
@Tom_Stevens617 3 жыл бұрын
@@Davidsworldtravels Really hoping they adopt the same flat design of the iPad Pro/Pro Display/iPhone 12
@Davidsworldtravels 3 жыл бұрын
@@Tom_Stevens617 exactly this will be a whole new generation and make everything else look very outdated. Plus overcome the ram limitations this first chip has.
@denisruskin348 3 жыл бұрын
At this point, not even Apple haters can deny how amazing the M1 Macs are.
@Nakdimon316 3 жыл бұрын
That is actually correct man. I have been dissing Apple for years but am seriously thinking of switching to Macbook, IPhone and IPad. Just not there yet. But it's getting pretty dang close
@ChrisTombstone 3 жыл бұрын
I hate Apple. With that said, my M1 will be here in a week lmao
@GGKGGD 3 жыл бұрын
@@ChrisTombstone lmaoo
@dougsteel7414 3 жыл бұрын
I've always liked them, but I'm waiting for a few things to be sorted out. Speakers, USB and Wifi performance. And hopefully, ditching the horrible curvy lozenge shape. It's almost retro.
@Tom_Stevens617 3 жыл бұрын
@@ChrisTombstone Lol, what's the point of hating Apple then?
@sivamanipatnala5517 3 жыл бұрын
I used to be an apple hater...now Im a proud m1 macbook owner....
@derekhsieh8713 3 жыл бұрын
@@Z4KIUS Ui as in user interface? It’s personal preference but I prefer the ui of macos over every other os
@jinraigami3349 3 жыл бұрын
@@Z4KIUS What UI are you talking about? The fact that Windows takes more than 5 years to work on consistent animation and UI are funnier than this. Zen 3 is supposed to compare to at least M1X. Not the first-gen beta product like M1.
@sivamanipatnala5517 3 жыл бұрын
@@Z4KIUS On apple website...they are readily available...and you complaining about the UI isnt going to hold strong..coz i earlier thought macos was shit..but actually it isnt as bad at all...i got used to macos in like a day...and idk what connectivity issues u are talking about but, i guess it's Bluetooth, and they were long ago fixed with an update to software..like months ago...and only 16gigs of ram u were sayin...I doubt it coz im fine with 8gigs as u saw in the video already, so I guess 16 must work fine too...and zen3?...in same price range tho, m1 outperforms any other work laptop...
@Tom_Stevens617 3 жыл бұрын
@@Z4KIUS That's not an M1 limitation. 16 gigs of max RAM has always been standard on the Air and 13" Pro
@sivamanipatnala5517 3 жыл бұрын
@@derekhsieh8713 yes, my windows desktop always glitches like u saw in the video...but i do miss few features from windows...macos is just better optimised...gotta admit
@ricardosmith2060 3 жыл бұрын
This isn't just about performance, you can get similar or better on another machine. What you can't get is the full package: performance + efficiency + build quality + good price + slow value depreciation rate. The value proposition is insane for anyone not looking for a gaming PC.
@sivamanipatnala5517 3 жыл бұрын
Guess u forgot to add battery life and display too, at 1000$, every other windows laptop just comes with a 1080p display..
@d4vidjk 3 жыл бұрын
@@sivamanipatnala5517 and sound xD
@Nakdimon316 3 жыл бұрын
What windows laptop gets you similar or better performance than the M1 MB Air, especially at that price point.
@d4vidjk 3 жыл бұрын
@@Nakdimon316 in terms of GPU/gaming performance literally every windows GAMING laptop, not ultrabooks with integrated graphics In terms of CPU u cant get that performance using Windows
@ricardosmith2060 3 жыл бұрын
@@Nakdimon316 the ryzen 5900HX can get you about 90-95% of the way there (depending on the laptop it's in) in single core and beat it on multi core. You can check geekbench. But as you said, you probably won't be able to pick that up at a competitive price.
@user-xl1ne8vj8f 3 жыл бұрын
Don't forget that the macbook air doesn't have active cooling, while the LG gram has
@bryanmiller476 3 жыл бұрын
Yet the M1 MacBook Air is still faster lol
@user-xl1ne8vj8f 3 жыл бұрын
Oh and most of the programs work natively on the LG gram and they aren't a "beta version"
@user-xl1ne8vj8f 3 жыл бұрын
The M1 is still killing it
@user-xl1ne8vj8f 3 жыл бұрын
@Ben Shapiro I am waiting for the 14 inch model and hope that it isn't over 1.5k so that I can afford it
@user-xl1ne8vj8f 3 жыл бұрын
@Ben Shapiro tbh I will be kinda disappointed if they release it with the m1
@toddhumphrey7961 3 жыл бұрын
The M1 Mac being faster than the LG = Rain is wet.
@75dhib 3 жыл бұрын
Yes haha i don't now why he did that comparaison lg Gram market are for those who want a light laptop not a powerfull laptop ( yes comparaison for just a Ram but a program don't work with just the Ram )
@comradeuro4255 3 жыл бұрын
That was not the point of the comparison. The point was RAM differences
@75dhib 3 жыл бұрын
@@comradeuro4255 video / photo editing and surfing the web don't use just the ram if u don't know sir
@jasonrandom 3 жыл бұрын
@@comradeuro4255 really? Then why is he constantly referring to the performance?
@benroytravels9881 3 жыл бұрын
Who else is here to witness the 100th slaughter of M1 over Windows laptops ? 😂
@jackf1841 3 жыл бұрын
Me! :) Watching this on my M1 Macbook with a bit of popcorn and a beer 😅
@amritsingh4251 3 жыл бұрын
@Harsh Gurnani Well gaming laptops is a completely different class of laptops, so of course they're going to lose in terms of gaming, but for productivity laptops, the m1's are some of the best computers you can buy. But I mean these MacBooks are better than gaming laptops in most aspects: They're thinner, quieter, better cpu, but of course have a much worse gpu.
@blinblinthing 3 жыл бұрын
The M1 got slaughtered against an AMD machine
@blinblinthing 3 жыл бұрын
@@amritsingh4251 So which is it? At one point, it's about performance, then later it's not about too much performace.
@johngwheeler 3 жыл бұрын
@Harsh Gurnani I bet you won’t get 18 to 20 hour battery life on your gaming laptop
@sergeyd2199 3 жыл бұрын
Lol, just realized that you and Vadim are different people 😂
@dulistanheman 3 жыл бұрын
Waiting for 32GB M1X and max out to 64GB 😁🎆 No more buying Mac for the next 6 years, focus on productivity...just saying.
@andywilliam367 3 жыл бұрын
Totally agree 💯 My 2013 MBP 15 max out still going, but recently it is getting limited my work because of OS Big Sur that slowing down my machine.
@rishirajsaikia1323 3 жыл бұрын
What do normal people even do with 16 gb or more ram ?
@cesdan8377 3 жыл бұрын
@@rishirajsaikia1323 Normal people don’t even consider Mac. They buy windows or Chromebook and still they have to replace it after 2 to 3 years because it’s slowing down or some of them broken. Speaking of “Productivity” like KZfaqr, Video editing, Photo editing, Music Production is well known using Mac machine with minimum 16GB is a standard for longterm usage - which is normal. You can see how Mac machine helping them work faster than Windows. The choice to be normal is depending on your work.
@andywilliam367 3 жыл бұрын
@@texyrexyNow $200 bucks for 16GB. Later on the 16GB will be standard and add the $200x4=$800 minus student discount become $725 just for the 64GB RAM upgrade and worry free for the next 5 to 6 years. I think that pretty good investment right? Machine help me to focus on working/making money and forget about this channel for awhile.
@Anwrimos23 3 жыл бұрын
for normal people 8gb ram is more than enough, for pros 16gb is perfect, 32gb maybe for huge entreprise projects or CGI designers
@giampierobattist 3 жыл бұрын
"16 GB is the sweet spot" Me editing photo on a MacBook 12 since 2017: 16 GB is Heaven
@giampierobattist 3 жыл бұрын
@Abitamim Bharmal i could bet my head on this
@Tom_Stevens617 3 жыл бұрын
@Abitamim Bharmal The newest ones? Pretty sure even the A12 Bionic is better
@BillyVatcher 3 жыл бұрын
@Abitamim Bharmal they are
@shzammpatapon9865 3 жыл бұрын
@@Z4KIUS i see you're being so salty of apple perform well in the market and ram optimazation that you need to make yourself feel validated and comment other people and tell 16gb is useless. what a sad life
@shzammpatapon9865 3 жыл бұрын
@@Z4KIUS well it seems like you don't want to reply to my previous reply in the other comments because you've been roast so hard.
@hugowells3052 3 жыл бұрын
“Stop, stop, it’s already dead”
@mrt.7146 3 жыл бұрын
finally the LG Gram won at category: most use of swap 🥳
@fenimander 2 жыл бұрын
because on LG u can swap ssd when it dies (or add another!) on a Mac you can buy new Mac :/
@JimiMiki 3 жыл бұрын
I have been building PCs since late 90s, and have always thought Apple as a bit over priced, albeit quality products. But if you need a laptop now or the next few years, I don't think anyone should buy anything other than these M powered machines.
@norsyahid2740 3 жыл бұрын
Apple's timeless motto: "Efficiency"
@paristath6773 3 жыл бұрын
Everyone else's timeless motto: "Power" yet efficiency always won.
@monkeslayer-km5ho 3 жыл бұрын
Me watch ultraman: no wonder why they always use blue form than red form
@alright272 3 жыл бұрын
This all shows it comes down to one simple word: Optimization.
@webstar1997 3 жыл бұрын
Transistor size and logical branch prediction too!
@rudeviper 3 жыл бұрын
Not that great I will say. I mean better when comapred to windows but linux's optimisation is much better than this mac os and yes linux desktops dont have control on its apps too... Thats just next level optimisation. No one can compete in performance area with linux.
@hape3862 3 жыл бұрын
@@rudeviper "No one can compete in performance area with linux." - IF it runs. And WHAT it runs.
@rudeviper 3 жыл бұрын
@@hape3862 But it runs everything now apart from some countable proprietary Software from Adobe. Yes but there are many which runs on linux only. Take your internet for example.😂
@masx4813 3 жыл бұрын
And also upgradeable
@BillyVatcher 3 жыл бұрын
At this point computers are more powerful than most ways people use them.
@ThePianist51 3 жыл бұрын
Well... If Google and other Add Companies keep trashing all websites, even an i5 won’t be sufficient 😂🤣
@yesiam6758 3 жыл бұрын
Damn. You find basically answer to EVERY tech question here ! ❤️ Srsly- no other channel covers SO MUCH! 😃 Keep it up guys 🙃
@Mayhanmp 3 жыл бұрын
Fr!! These guy’s reviews are always in detail!!
@DavidVogt 3 жыл бұрын
Max, awesome video. Is there a particular reason you opted to compare to a windows laptop rather than an intel MacBook?
@Piketom1 3 жыл бұрын
In ultrabooks, unified memory makes total sense. Nearly all of them solder the memory to the motherboard so integrating those components that are not upgradable anyway onto one SOC really seems like the way to go. I would hate unified memory on a 17" gaming laptop or full size desktop because those are machines that benefit tremendously from an affordable, easy upgrade path.
@colinstock325 3 жыл бұрын
Don’t forget every Mac for at least the last 7 years has used laptop components. The iMacs and the laptops used the same processor technologies.
@Piketom1 3 жыл бұрын
@@colinstock325 iMacs have used desktop processors and graphics cards for the last several years. I fix its tear down revealed that the cpu in the new one is socketed.
@fredraputznik2313 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing. I just do not see the point of getting a Windows laptop anymore, unless you just cannot handle MacOS.
@blinblinthing 3 жыл бұрын
So you'd recommend a mac to a gamer or someone who needs a high end gpu?
@user-jr9cn7bs6n 3 жыл бұрын
@@blinblinthing guys who actually need an high end gpu already know what they need and they don't care about a normal recommendation from someone on the internet
@blinblinthing 3 жыл бұрын
@@user-jr9cn7bs6n Just wanted the OP 's opinion.
@fredraputznik2313 3 жыл бұрын
@@blinblinthing That's a great point. I was thinking about the broad market, even pro editors. But are you talking about laptops or high-end desktops?
@blinblinthing 3 жыл бұрын
@@fredraputznik2313 laptop or desktop. You have those new beefy GPUs and CPUs on windows desktops. Windows has more software. For Laptops, windows have the higher resolution displays, higher refresh rates, brighter displays etc. And with the better gpu, windows will be better for media creation.
@peterscott1378 3 жыл бұрын
I recently bought one and it is insane! The only complaint I have is how frustrating it is to check if every program I use works with it. Even my mouse software didn’t work! but I found an alternative. Honestly this computer is so fast and everything it says it is but I wonder if I bought this a year too early..
@Nael000 3 жыл бұрын
Even if you did it’s not that much money compared to a pc
@obitosaldivar1876 3 жыл бұрын
the thing about software is that it’s most definitely gonna keep getting better as time goes on
@anubhavsolankey 3 жыл бұрын
Now this is what destruction looks like ! I think M1 with 8GB RAM is more than enough for majority of users.
@markjacobs1086 3 жыл бұрын
If you're using it like this: definitely not recommended. That SSD is going to die which pretty much makes it a paperweight.
@hape3862 3 жыл бұрын
@@markjacobs1086 That SSD-scaremongering is already debunked, get up to date!
@markjacobs1086 3 жыл бұрын
@@hape3862 Obviously you don't know what happens to *ANY* SSD during heavy editing use & limited RAM. You don't want to do that on *ANY* device. However the SSD being non replaceable in the M1 Mac makes that an even heftier don't do that kind of ordeal.
@anubhavsolankey 3 жыл бұрын
@@markjacobs1086 The 3% SSD usage that a lot of people are experiencing is mostly an error with SMART tool reading. Also even if it goes at that speed, the SSD will fail in about 14 years as per math. Let's even make it 10years. So I can speak for myself, I upgrade every 3 years. So SSD failure is the least of my concern
@markjacobs1086 3 жыл бұрын
@@anubhavsolankey That's not what I meant. Open your eyes, don't read my comment like a friggin' Apple fanboy... *ANY* SSD in *ANY* type of system will fail preemptively if you do *ANY* heavy duty editing with limited RAM which is going to wear down *ALL* SSD's in *EVERY* OS imaginable. Which is why you should buy the device with enough RAM to avoid wearing down a SSD due to heavy swapfile/pagefile usage. Especially not good if it's soldered onto the rest of the device! This may not matter to you if you swap the device in about 3 years, but that's hardly a reason to say this kind of SSD abuse is going to be fine for everyone...
@EpicGamer-no3yj 3 жыл бұрын
Ngl I have this exact MacBook Air model and color. I threw the MKBHD icons triple black dbrand skin on it and it looks 👌 very classy.
@AryamanSinghvlogs 3 жыл бұрын
Hey! Can you please also do after effects? Ur the only KZfaqr who actually runs the softwares and show it clearly
@sibusisokevin 3 жыл бұрын
Fair to have the background apps closed before the start of the test
@amoghpeesapaty3854 3 жыл бұрын
You have to make similar video comparing intel mac with m1 that will be awesome I dont know why but pushing a computer to its limits is very satisfying
@sambitsaha3608 3 жыл бұрын
The title isn't quite right. Apple's RAM isn't different than DDR4, they use the similar LPDDR4X as found in other laptops. What "Unified Memory" means is that the memory is within the SoC. The architecture of the RAM is still the same DDR4.
@MaxTechOfficial 3 жыл бұрын
Yes definitely 👍 but it’s hard to explain it 100% in a short title and tell people what to expect from the video.
@sambitsaha3608 3 жыл бұрын
@@MaxTechOfficial Oh yeah I get it. Great video btw mate! Loving these comparisions. You truly make purchasing decisions FAR simpler for folks looking out for a good laptop. Keep up the great work mate!
@JoshsBookishVoyage 3 жыл бұрын
So if I'm using this amount of ram/swap ram everyday should I be concerned about the life of the ssd?
@teeI0ck 3 жыл бұрын
showing an accurate and deep understanding; great perceptive. 💡 Muito obrigado for all the insightful information. 🤝
@MrSammotube 3 жыл бұрын
These tests seem to point to a better OS more than hardware really. You might want to do the same test against a new Intel Mac (like Macbook Pro) just to see if that is the case.
@user-ps5up3og2h 3 жыл бұрын
It has nothing to do with unified vs non-unified memory. You've basically compared Mac OS and Windows swapping strategies and algorithms. Also keep in mind that Chrome does use different approaches for tabs discarding on different OS.
@LW-tg2hm 2 жыл бұрын
Hello Max Tech, Love your videos. I have a request for future on videos like these, specially in these Covid times it would be amazing if you guys also test OBS studio(screen recording) and zoom call(video call) plus all the other applications running like in this video. Thanks LW
@Sarcasmka14 3 жыл бұрын
Useful Video .... Thanks You Very Much 🙂🔥
@levyherczeg2423 3 жыл бұрын
You forgot 1 thing !!! What was the power consultation on this tests ?
@sanderbogaert7601 3 жыл бұрын
A more interesting test could be to create a RAM disk and do some regular file write and read tests. That way you test the memory without relying on the processor. Also an SSD read/write speed test would be nice
@ArnaudBails 3 жыл бұрын
beau comparatif, belle vidéo !
@utubekullanicisi 3 жыл бұрын
Nobody understands you.
@allansh828 3 жыл бұрын
unifield for low power portable device, scalable for workstation
@homeleung578 3 жыл бұрын
can't wait to see price of RAM for unified memory on an SoC
@thinkspeed6787 3 жыл бұрын
Hey, just for my curiosity could you run the export with the power cable plugged in as intel laptops are notorious for running at half speed while using the battery. And I usually plug mine in when doing heavy tasks. Thx Edit: this will also effect the SSD.
@Anthony-gq9hs 3 жыл бұрын
Is that bad for your battery?
@kriss4230 3 жыл бұрын
@@Anthony-gq9hs Nah i don't think so. The power consumption is reduced so most probably no. In ryzen laptops this could happen as the reduction in power consumption is lesser in these laptops.
@gabrielp.5839 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, I always used windows and recently bought my first macbook, your videos are helping me a lot. I would like to know if it is normal for my macbook air m1 (8gb) to be slow with 20 safari tabs playing youtube videos in 4k? I did this test and it was unusable, with 20 tabs with 4k video I couldn't open anything else. Is this expected for the 8gb model? Greetings from Brazil!!
@drfujita1 3 жыл бұрын
Is that the MacBook Air with the thermal pads installed you are using to compare to the LG Gram?
@jesselam5867 3 жыл бұрын
I'm curious to see how it holds up when compared to a windows 16GB machine, since in one video you said that the M1 8GB behaves like a 16GB machine.
@HelloThere-lo3qi 3 жыл бұрын
Yea since the price is around the same like 16gb windows
@jesselam5867 3 жыл бұрын
Since no one replied. I've used the 8GB MBA for about a month and Il share my thoughts. Yes the 8GB does hold up well during normal use. Compared to windows I cannot say, but there were a few times where 8GB wasn't enough even during my use and I wouldn't consider myself to be a heavy user. With a modern day computing It's quite easy to go over 8GB if memory. For example if you open 10 safari tabs with nothing else running, it's not hard to exceed the 8GB of ram and you would have already been using swap to make up for it. Once you have a few other apps running in the background like, teams, WhatsApp Messenger. By themselves not heavy but together the memory usage skyrockets and your machine at that point would be relying on swap. My machine usually uses between 3 - 6GB of swap, occasionally as much as the actual memory use itself. While I didn't notice slowdowns most of the time there were a few times which I did during browsing. Namely when it came to tabs to took a significant amount of memory (some 4k videos, movie, Reddit main page) responsiveness took a bit of a hit. KZfaq videos would also start to default to 480p playback too which I assume is due to the lack of ram. All I'm trying to say here is that while 90% you won't notice a difference, 8GB of ram is not 16GB of ram and if you can afford it even if you aren't a professional or heavy user, I would recommend 16GB if you want optimal performance.
@StaticVapour590 3 жыл бұрын
It's fair comparison. Some may say you should have done test on some Linux distro vs macOS but i'd say that ain't fair. I would buy M1 Mac mini right now, but it's so damn expensive here where I live with VAT. It's about about $975 for the base model and around $1245 for 16GB model still at 256GB SSD
@ZybYt 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, I can’t believe this
@martinsandrejsmednis5391 3 жыл бұрын
Watching this on my MacBook Air M1, after I returned my DELL XPS 13 11th gen i5 to switch to Mac OS. Wouldnt go back
@baskorosuryaputra1925 3 жыл бұрын
Is the 8 GB RAM on the M1 performing better than on Intel Macs?
@kickthesky 3 жыл бұрын
Glad I got the 16gig M1 Mac Mini. It just shipped. Very excited to start my Mac journey!
@bryanmiller476 3 жыл бұрын
It’s great, wife and I both have the 8GB ram/512GB ssd MacBook Air but also have the base 8GB ram/256gb ssd Mac mini strictly for my two CR-10S 3D printers and it works great, especially with no more automatic updates messaging with prints lol
@betamax1091 3 жыл бұрын
I paid $599 (from Costco) for my 8 GB M1 Mini and it smokes both my MacBook Pros with 16 GB of RAM. The M1s are fast. I mean really fast. Such a joy to use Safari now that we have 4K KZfaq and Netflix. You're gonna love it.
@lordphong 3 жыл бұрын
Are you testing memory? Why not choose another macbook pro with the same amount of memory but not an M1 ?
@adrianhernandez1807 Жыл бұрын
Just got my new MacBook Pro with 96gb of unified memory
@alright272 3 жыл бұрын
Compare 16gb 16 inch macbook pro ram management to 16gb m1 mac ram management.
@Kayserjp 3 жыл бұрын
i realized the RAM of my M1 macbook 16gb is ALWAYS full. even after cold startup, its full instandly. when i close all background apps, its even full. so what i asume, the m1 is fast af because they will always load the OS and key files that is needed to load and switch apps faster is always in the ram. my windows pc with 64gb ram is like always empty. even if i do some animation its just like 20gb loaded with data...
@N1ka 2 жыл бұрын
Do you think the M1 Max 32GB will hold well 5 years from now? My 8GB late 2013 i5 started to be very laggy last year. I’m wondering if going to 64GB was better option.
@vir574 Жыл бұрын
Are you on weeed ?
@taticaldroid9288 3 жыл бұрын
I wish I can have MacBook although I already have iPhone 8 and iPad Air. But many engineering softwares and drivers are incompatible with Mac.
@osman5601 3 жыл бұрын
Wish you compared the battery level as well
@legendarykeyboardwarrior8364 3 жыл бұрын
Still using HP Pentium 3825u and 4gb LDDR3 1600 ram, still my system runs great, handles 40-50 chrome tabs run multiplayer rts games, some editing, playback etc. Win10.
@Tweakito 3 жыл бұрын
runs great til u use an M1 Mac, trust
@mehdiadlany 3 жыл бұрын
The only thing that prevents meet fromages jumping to Apple is that the SSS is soldered. The lack of repairability is a deal breaker. Macbooks are amazing when they work.
@silkiukas 3 жыл бұрын
Why did you stop using Davinci Resolve for comparisons? That is much better application than Premiere and runs natively on both. Also that is the reason why I started watching your videos long time ago. Because you always had good benchmarks for Resolve on Macs
@jedidiahsteele7847 3 жыл бұрын
This is a great Comparison!!! You Guys do Such a Great Job!! It would be even more interesting if you threw in an iPad Pro and the Google Pixelbook Go to see how Chrome OS and IPad OS handle Ram Swaps!! Both OS’s have come a long Way!!!
@sumatralex250 3 жыл бұрын
My perception is they have few differences as long as the same gen CPU has been adapted, which seems to be wrong though.
@melonggamingchannel Жыл бұрын
Thank you for testing while opening performance monitor, that info about RAM things, is what I'm very curious about. I'm thinking to get Macbook Air too. After watching these video, I'm sure 70% to get this.
@phunsukhwangrufrom3idiots105 3 жыл бұрын
Eyes: It's Gorgeous Hands: AHHHHHHH THAT KEYBOARDDD Brain: I need a m1 macbook Heart: ikr Meanwhile Wallet: You're kidding me right
@johnpaulonyeama9931 3 жыл бұрын
@Green Earth you know it everyone is into gaming like that and yes that's the only reason I can't buy a MacBook it can't run triple a games but aside that it is better than any other gaming and even non gaming laptop
@HemanthYalamanchili 3 жыл бұрын
@Green Earth Personally I have a PS5, so I don’t really use a laptop for gaming and I don’t think I’m the only one that uses consoles for gaming instead of laptops
@skoomamuch356 3 жыл бұрын
lol don't use laptops for AAA gaming.. smh
@Tom_Stevens617 3 жыл бұрын
It's just a 1000 bucks. That's basically entry level for laptops which aren't for 5 year olds
@johnpaulonyeama9931 3 жыл бұрын
@@sou1_1ess to me it's not the MacBook has superior build quality one of the best speakers one of the best battery life and the fastest processor for its size finally it's price is actually worth it
@paulroesner 2 жыл бұрын
Try the same tests with external 4K monitor, or dual 4K. Thanks!
@Drift_0420 3 жыл бұрын
I’m curious whether 8G M1 MBA could compete 16G Gram or XPS.
@user-ep5xt4gg2d 3 жыл бұрын
5 tabs and still no swap? How’s it possible? I have swap even after reboot, when no apps running!
@mootsym 3 жыл бұрын
with the swap on the activity monitor- is that number a total of how much is being swapped in real time?.. and so how would total amount of swap be calculated?- for example.. over the course of 1 minute.. how many gigs have been swapped? X amount of gigs are being swapped right NOW, but over a minute.. is that a different number? is what is showing on the activity monitor gigs swapped per second? Gigs swapped since activity monitor was opened?
@sentientbeing05 3 жыл бұрын
Watching on M1 MacBook Air. It's a beast!
@richardh995 3 жыл бұрын
Hello Thanks for the content
@icecantgaming944 Жыл бұрын
The only problem with mac m1 8gb is swap memory and i got 256gb and the lifespans might not be good since i cant replace it
@aryanbedwal1196 3 жыл бұрын
great content like always ;)
@mAdNeL29 2 жыл бұрын
Guys please help, what is unified memory? How this helps gpu and cpu?
@akadad1950 5 ай бұрын
This is SUCH a good and credible highlight of advantages of Unified memory SOC M1 but while impressive, it's not perfect or totally definitive since (as he says in vid) SSD performance on that particular PC is maybe 20% faster than the one in MBAir model. However, my question is more about EEC (on chip/firmware/error correction) usually deployed like on AMD and NVIDIA chips and/or graphics cards plugged into motherboard - I mean - is EEC MOOT on Apple Silicon SOC?
@sohrabansari2438 11 ай бұрын
will running macOS from external drive can resolve memory swap issue?
@tennisfan6343 3 жыл бұрын
could you tell me if m1 macbook air was with tthermal mod in this particular case?
@JimHancock 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a photographer and filmmaker... looking for a new machine... never had anything but Macs since they became essential for photographers in the 90s.... At a glance one would assume that all of this flies out the window (so to speak) if you are low on internal disk space..... so keep your files on external drives, I can live with that...... I have no problem choking a Mac with 64 gigs of ram..... the test you ran is a pretty typical day for professionals... so I'm trying to reprogram my head into the idea that 16 gigs of memory will do the job....
@blurdreamer 3 жыл бұрын
Switching from my 2013 imac27/16GB/1GBGraphic/1tb fusion drive to MacMini M1/16GB/1TB, finally smooth playback while editing full HD & 4k in fcpx with multitrack/LUT/graphic applied~!
@blurdreamer 3 жыл бұрын
The downside is I have to paid extra more around 1.3K++ for Apple Keyboard/ 4k monitor/ speaker.
@aldenhoot9967 3 жыл бұрын
When you say the LG’s SSD is faster, how consistent is that across varying block sizes? Could it be that Window’s Swap file system is built around blocks sized in a particularly disadvantageous way?
@MaxTechOfficial 3 жыл бұрын
Oh possibly. I'm not sure but in regular testing the LG's SSD was at 3000MB/s compared to 2200MB/s so a fairly decent difference.
@brooklynbummer 3 жыл бұрын
I have a Lenovo g3 and running two programs brings it to its knees with 8 gig memory.
@nebink1572 3 жыл бұрын
If you compare safari with chrome and arm based photoshop and Lightroom with the LG that will be a different story 😂
@dakouta2995 3 жыл бұрын
Adobe illustrator is still lagging on the macbook M1. My mba stops working and reset multiple times while using illustrator, which I have to use my wife’s 2014 mbp to have the work done
@wbca1983 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. You should have used Microsoft Edge. With Edge, page reloads have never happened to me, and I only have 8 Rams. Edge vs Safari would be better
@aleksandersambor2826 3 жыл бұрын
I would love to check the same with safari instead of chrome:)
@unnikrishnanharish4658 3 жыл бұрын
Would it be okay to get a rtx 2060 or 2070 laptop from the used market now?
@ThePianist51 3 жыл бұрын
The prices are actually pretty reasonable right now and those things are not far off from the desktop versions. Unlike the 3000 Series. ^^
@tech4life884 Жыл бұрын
THE RAM IN THE M1 MACBOOK UNIFIED MEMORY IS EXACTLY DDR4 RAM. my MacBook Air M1 says it has 8GB of LPDDR4 Ram in the system SETTINGS.
@brandonswanson9503 3 жыл бұрын
This test would better be conducted on an Intel Mac and an M1 Mac
@gauravgaisenn2120 3 жыл бұрын
I hope that the upcoming silicon macs are very cheap like $699, $799 or $899.
@itsGuy 3 жыл бұрын
Probably best to test with the same OS. Since you can't install windows yet on the M1 mac, just install Mac OS on Windows laptop (easily doable) and then test it. The OS is just made better for the M1
@groszak1 3 жыл бұрын
Impossible because incompatible hardware
@itsGuy 3 жыл бұрын
@@groszak1 nope
@kyawsithu7298 3 жыл бұрын
is that the thermal pad customized Mac book air ??
@sumaiyamumu2408 3 жыл бұрын
Asus ROG Flow X13 (AMD 5980HS) vs Apple M1 Macbook Pro
@rjbse 3 жыл бұрын
Why can't we mix both concepts? Let cpus have dram in their soc and expand dram by traditional ram dimm slots?
@Glozzom 3 жыл бұрын
I mean I don't know if these are the best to test the ram even. Just the latency of running software is the improvement. You could use some heavily intensive program that needs all kinds of instructions, load them all into RAM before hand somehow. And just watch how the cpu is fat and happy with data. A lot of these tests are testing how fast the RAM can be loaded, and that's mainly restricted by the speed the storage can send data to the RAM, not how fast the RAM can be read, or how fast the cpu can write to RAM. That's purely the benefit of this, allowing the cpu to stretch its legs.
@deloliilol 3 жыл бұрын
The comparison is so crazy 😂 do some people even still hesitate to switch to a Mac?
@utubekullanicisi 3 жыл бұрын
That’s kind of a childish comment.
@SelvarajuManivannan06 2 жыл бұрын
What's interesting is none of the apps he tested doesn't developed for native M1 Mac
@SanjeevSingh-wc5cz 3 жыл бұрын
If Apple would've priced the M1's any higher, Q4 growth would have been lot less than what it is rn. Its a perfect machine for that price. 👍
@Tom_Stevens617 3 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure sales would have been almost exactly the same if the MBP was priced at, say, 1400 bucks instead of 1300
@MelvsAmores 3 жыл бұрын
This is what vertical integration brings - the hardware and the software optimised. I remember Microsoft making their own laptops running Windows of course... But arghhh... the chip's Intel.
@kodisells7897 3 жыл бұрын
How about using a MacBook with intel ddr4?
@shtupidpenguin 3 жыл бұрын
I'm thinking about getting the MBA M1 but I'm not sure anymore. I'm a third year hs school student (two more years to go) so you'd assume the base model is more than enough for me, but I do robotics and sometimes I have to code for school projects, not just that but I also gotta use (again, sometimes) design softwares such as AutoCAD and SketchUp. I'm purchasing the 256gb version because I don't need more space (based on the conditions of my current computer), but the ssd swap problem kinda scares me, I don't want to pay more because I live in Italy and just the base model costs $1245 (with the student discount :)...), I'm not sure about which ram I should get, is 8gb enough? Or should I get the 16gb version ($1490)? I'd like it to last all through college (I'm taking physics as major, I don't know if I'll use any simulation programs...). I'm also concerned about the programs compatibility (which I'm sure will be fine in future, but still). I don't want to pay too much, but I also don't wanna return it later to change the ram :). In the extreme case I'll just get another windows (probably the Surface Laptop 3), but I want this Mac so bad >_
@cinetagonist 3 жыл бұрын
Just buy the base MacBook Air and you’ll be impressed.
@shtupidpenguin 3 жыл бұрын
@@cinetagonist thank you for your suggestion :D. Yesterday actually one thing came to my mind: there Microsoft Surface Laptop 3 which is also a great ultrabook and since it uses windows nearly every software is compatible, and it's amazing for coding too. Which one would you suggest?
@cinetagonist 3 жыл бұрын
@@shtupidpenguin I'm definitely not seeing myself as a Windows user since 2008. And comparing the performance, cooling/silence/screen/trackpad/battery life etc Surface 3 is a trash, IMHO.
@AzumiRM 5 ай бұрын
Apple should say "unified PC" and just send you an empty box.
@inf009 2 жыл бұрын
Those bezels
@kokobarek4577 3 жыл бұрын
This is not very fair because Apple just launched a software update and I remarked drastic change in swap usage on my m1 Macbook pro, so I advice redoing it with the optimization released with the update. Your videos are amazing but this one was done at a wrong time.
@pmlam32 3 жыл бұрын
Though this is a ram comparison but it ended up just another Apple os vs windows
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