Aw man this update actually IMPROVED some of my guns. Im bad

"It can't aim down for peanuts." I laughed harder than I should have.

The largest gun known to have been used would be the Heavy Gustav Railway Cannon, developed by Germany in WWII, which had a shell length of just shy of 4 meters. Just for anyone wondering.

You should definitely do the shell type tutorial next, so we know what to send down our APS barrels. Very good tutorial by the way!

11:45 "Ammo injectors" quite useful indeed

who else hates that 3 way connectors only connect in a one way config? ah yes, the days before auto aiming green reticles...

You didnt mention that the cooling splitter only connects from one side towards the firing piece. This gave me quite a headache when I first started playing with APS, starting at the turret base building up, placing the firing piece almost last and nothing is connected.

2:15 "...Because noodle barrels are sometimes a pain in the butt, sometimes literally." am I the only one who instantly thought *Bulwark* when he said that?

I swear, I’m new to fits and I’ve watched this like 3 times and I’m finally getting the hang of it

I played FtD 208 hours since alpha, and i did not know that you don't have to align clips to autoloaders' holes in sides.

I still love APS but all my old guns are now terrible Btw Borderwise keep up the amasing work

The way they are all laid out reminds me of Army days. They make you lay out the content of your rugsack to make sure you didn't fill it with blank box or something.

Great tutorial I'm in love with drabas changes to aps and that sound is absolutely gorgeous

Description is 100% accurate :D Since the stable hit I have been playing for about an hour. And my experience so far: The game went to shit. The biggest problem is the armour. APS was the 'Armor Busting' setup, it could dish out insane amounts of damage for a low cost, yet it wasnt nearly as reliable as energy weapons and it had many weaknesses (very explody, range limited, shields fucked it etc). It was an incredibly effective counter to battleships and smaller ships while it wasnt effective against a lot of different flier types due to you having to sacrifice huge amount of warheads for enough casings and to counter subs you needed supercavitation which fairly dropped your warhead packing. There were many problems with the system, but it was balanced since it wasnt as ammo efficient and non exploding as CRAMs, they werent as reliable as lasers and PACs and they werent ultra high alpha specialists like missiles BUT NOW, APSs are very VERY expensive and their dps is crap. They got an alpha increase, but now you would realistically use missiles much more often, missiles have much higher alpha damage, similar dps and now pretty similar cost. They also got velocity buff but again, if you want to counter aircrafts you would want to use missiles or lasers OR PACs. But maybe, their alpha is good against battleships now, right? NO. CRAMs will do a better job if you set up your detection properly. So really, you no longer have that low cost armor busting weaponry. ARMOR is essentially buffed now, and with something like 2 layers of metal 2 layer of heavy 1 layer of space and one layer of any armour you are pretty much invincible, there is just not enough DPS among ANY of the faction crafts to put a dent in you, no kidding (try it yourself if you dont believe). So really, armor is buffed, the most complex weapon in the game is nerfed and shields are nerfed, really this update encouraged noob builds. I dont want to cause a shit storm in the comments, but I really have to say this and ask: What is your complete, raw and unfiltered opinion on all of this?

Yay! It’s here ;) thank you borderwise!

Holy shit I remember when you had 800 subs, now 11k almost 12k? Good job dude

Note that the HE scaling isn't the same as old stacking penalties. Old method was: BASE_DAMAGE * (NUMBER_OF_WARHEADS ^ 0.65) new one is: (BASE_DAMAGE * NUMBER_OF_WARHEADS )^0.8 This means that each HE warhead within the shell should be worth roughly the same, just like frag/EMP/HEAT/HESH/kinetic/whatever else. The transformation is there because small HE isn't very good against strong armor, and 10K damage with ~16m radius is more than twice as strong as 5K with ~13m.

I think the largest shell ever fired from a gun is the 7100kg shell fired from an 800mm gun. Don't know how long they were, but definitely not 8 metres long lol - more like just over 4 metres by the looks of it

Hey thank you so much for these videos ur the man! I enjoyed ur lets play series please do another one and ill watch!

never give up and keep makin videos

So much more of my ships are dedicated to housing towers of aps pieces. T_T

First like I have proof PS: this tutorial hurst my feelings rly bad. Used to love APS back in the day, not so much now

Thanks so much for the vid keep up the great vids

I've just gotten back into this game and got super confused why some of my cannons didn't work. Thanks for this!

I have spent the past two weeks trying to weaponize ammo ejectors as a main battery and I haven’t succeeded yet but I think I’m getting close.

He stops discussing components at 32:55

Ahhhh now APS is so easy for me :D

Can you make a weapon using ammo ejectors? Like say a bomber, it will damage itself so that it destroy the autoloader, and ejects all the ammo, the ammo being 500mm*8000mm rounds, no propellant, only HE. Once the bomber is over the target it ejects say 50 rounds like that, which drops down on the enemy ship.

Border wise, the elevation has min and max, the devs didn't mess up man XD

Thank you for another great tut!

Doe I'm not entirely sure about the size of the shell fired from them, the largest Naval gun during WW II would be the 46cm/45cm Type 94 Triple barreled Naval Gun / Rifle of the Battleship Yamato, a 46 cm / 460 mm sized gun, whereas the Schwerer Gustav, the German Railway Cannon is 80 cm / 800mm gun. If you include other gun types like Mortars then the biggest gun in general would be both Mallet's mortar, a British Mortar produced during 1857 and Little David, a US one produced in 1945, Both mortars being at 91.4 cm / 914 mm sized, with the ancient Tsar Cannon at 89 cm / 890 mm size

They changed it again! So listing basically the 1.0 changes: (may be incorrect but I’m pretty sure this is what it is) More cooling shape varieties, the 3 way now connects on all sides. Recoil absorbers have the same recovery rates and larger ones are just the 1x1 built on top of each other Ammo customisers have a 4 part block now. Game now says, “only need 1 ammo intake for sustained fire” or “needs 1 ammo intake for sustained fire” (This was also ways a thing) Bore excavators aren’t a weak point, they have the same HP has a normal 1x1 barrel but not a 1x2, 3 or 4. Umm if I’m incorrect or there is another update, please tell me

They are not very advanced anymore,its kinda a joy and a sad moment for me I used to enjoy having to figure out all the details on my own about fire rate and reload speed That's not even getting into rails,when you build an advanced cannon back then it was truly an accomplishment. Not complaining just feeling nostalgic about the old days,the new mechanics are still OKy.

this update killed all of my spam cannons oh well now to make more

Bluh. Why did they add the stack penalty...

God I wish someone made this back then

The gustov gun fired shells the size of cars and each shell ways 1 ton

The advanced basics

A few questions for you to answer; When should I have more than one barrel? When should I use belt fed auto loader? I don't want to use HEAT or HESH, what are my alternatives?

I love this guide, is there any chance of updated guides for the other weapon systems?

Back to the R&D department, but it presents NEW opportunities. Maybe.

is this the spiffin britt

I still haven’t figured out the point of ammo clips. What do they even do? Like isn’t it just the same as having more autoloaders attatched? Why is it better to put a clip on an auto loader instead of another auto loader?

Cool

Borderwise, your videos are really helpful and the time and effort you put into your videos is greatly appreciated , but could you please try to be slightly more concise? Or at least, could you please include time stamps so that one can skip information one already knows, and get to the important bits? Again, your videos are great, but 47 minutes simply isn't time everyone has to watch a single tutorial..

I’ve seen other videos where they have multiple really thin barrels was that removed?

i'm really interested in trying to make a more or less realistic tank, something that's in or around the 88-120mm range. with a somewhat realistic reload time, so, seeing as i'm going for a single shot gun where I can get a reload speed somewhere in the 5-10 second reload time or are these sorts of times and sizes good and useless for anything that would stand a chance against the default enamies?

When are you going to give us an AOTE playthrough? Would love seeing you build a nice APS tank!

Im interested in knowing, will you be submitting craft for the custom faction now that the APS changes a dropped? or will you be waiting for release or the subscriber craft series to conclude? alse if you could do a vid on Advanced APS id love it. Thanks for these great vids man!

Not 8 meters long but a 7 ton she’ll that’s 800mm wide

Guns didn't have 8m shells (LAUGHS IN SCHWERER GUSTAV THE RAILWAY GUN)

Have they changed the UI of the shell editor? Mine looks nothing like this anymore xD

I must be doing SOMETHING wrong, because I always thought DWG was more deadly at expert than OW (Thank you disruptor/sabot shells) What kind of shell, and at what caliber, would you use as a launching point if you're specifically concerned with DWG? (Note this is going on something relatively cheap, hopefully sub 50k resources)

uh... from 34:30 on, the music is kinda demanding towards the viewers attention... especially from around 35:05 on... please either turn down the volume on such music if you really want to use it or just don't use it in the first place... but I had to watch thru almost the entire building guide about 10 time cuz it was so hard to follow what you were saying... I just wasn't able to focus because of the music...

cant you have the bore evacuator on the tip of the barrel?

My cannon is super inaccurite, any tips?

Maybe you could do tetris tips and tricks for aps (i desperately need it xD)

APS are not that good. Here is why: CRAMs are more space efficient, and stronger at higher gagues. They also can be packed very effectivly, and APS cant. APS only has coolers and loaders of improvement parts, and they are not very efficient either. A 3m shell take 1 min to load. You, shortly need a bunch of loaders for decent refire rate. And here we come to part 1, CRAMs are better when larger. These have lower damage per tile than lasers as well, so they can only be used for specific tasks no other gun can perform, like HEAT or flak. However, these have higher muzzle speed than CRAMs, so thats a +. And railguns are neat too. Like 5000 shells a minute, if enough chargers are loaded. Final guns ranking: Lasers PACs Railguns CRAMs APS

I missed the old Wanted music :(

How is it already outdated? You just recorded it 4 minutes ago, and I don't think there is anything new.

Can somebody explain how the new pid works

Why do they call “magazines” “clips”? Clips and magazines are completely different things. An American M1 form WW2 uses a “clip” A 40mm bofors also uses a “clip” while an M16 uses a “magazine” in from the depths your guns use “magazines” not “clips”.... they need to fix this issue.

I'm not learning a single thing from this