Arcteryx Cerium LT Vs. Patagonia Down Sweater: Lightweight Down Puffy Jacket Battle

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Arcteryx Cerium LT Vs. Patagonia Down Sweater: Lightweight Down Puffy Jacket Battle

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Backcountry Renegade

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@BackcountryRenegade 3 жыл бұрын

Hey guys I hope y’all are enjoying these jacket battles. Also I am experimenting with no background music in this video. Let me know if you prefer it with low background music or without.

@hfelder_03 3 жыл бұрын

I thought that the music volume of your previous video was fine. Here’s a suggestion: play low volume instrumental music in the background.

@BackcountryRenegade 3 жыл бұрын

@@hfelder_03 great thanks, I was thinking that same

@jimbonguyen Жыл бұрын

Rule 1: Being able to hear your words far surpasses any audio aestheticism. So whatever you do (low music, no music, instrumental music, etc), refer to Rule 1.

@joeblow9478 Жыл бұрын

No music..worse thing in backpacking video today....

@forrestcohen4049 3 жыл бұрын

Best jacket review I’ve watched. Own the cerium LT confirmed everything good about

@BackcountryRenegade 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the kind words! It is a great jacket

@Xeecks 3 жыл бұрын

This is some good content vs video. I’ve been hunting for a good mid layer for this year and I’m leaning into the Cerium LT/SL and the Atom LT. Might pull the trigger on the Cerium LT after this comparison. Keep up the very good comparisons.

@BackcountryRenegade 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks glad it was helpful. The cerium lt is one of my favorite jackets. More content like this to come. Thanks for the support !

@thdjjfsfh 3 жыл бұрын

Great work. Suggestion for your next few videos: perhaps you can go up and down a weight/durability category. 1. MH Ghost Whisperer vs Cerium SL vs micro puff 2. OR Helium Down vs Thorium AR vs Sweater Down

@BackcountryRenegade 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks. Love the suggestions, getting ready to compare the ghost whisper soon with a few of these !

@candidobm Жыл бұрын

I can attest that on #2 the Thorium AR is the best for winter. The Down Sweater is more versatile in terms of temperature and occasions (work and outdoor). I don’t like the OR fit, as I prefer trim fit. Also, the OR is more focused on outside use, not so good for urban use. Just my $0.02.

@billk5864 Жыл бұрын

Patagonia is known for their quality and longevity. I bought the down sweater on sale and I’m extremely happy with it.

@christinamartinez8132 Жыл бұрын

Just the comparison video I was looking for.

@peteandtessTube 2 жыл бұрын

Great review and comparison. I think opening music is AOK but I agree, music during the review is very distracting and would detract from your message. I ordered the Arc’teryx Cerium Lt after watching your video. I think you were very fair, objective and thorough and very helpful for those reasons. I should get my new jacket in the next several days and might come back to say how I like it.

@BackcountryRenegade 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the feedback and glad it was helpful. Yes let me know what you think

@oLi102 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for your detailed review! I can finally make up my mind. :P

@cshevlin 2 жыл бұрын

Can’t wait to get mine. It’s on its way! Thanks for the review!

@BackcountryRenegade 2 жыл бұрын

awesome let me know how you like it when you get it

@tanvirsingh4981 3 жыл бұрын

Really appreciate the videos man, good work!

@BackcountryRenegade 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@BethInstaNow 2 жыл бұрын

Excellent review! Thank you so much!

@shamitoson 8 ай бұрын

Would be interesting to see an updated comparison with the changes to the Pat down sweater. There’s a lot more down fill now, much warmer.

@BackcountryRenegade 8 ай бұрын

yes that is coming soon! thanks for the suggestion

@johnharrington2400 3 жыл бұрын

Love both companies and have ton's from each but....Arcteryx is simply in a different world, nothing compares to their fit, weight, zippers, and function.

@jameslennard4062 3 жыл бұрын

These are two great looking jackets.

@d.b.1176 Жыл бұрын

I never knew the Patagonia could;d get stuffed into its own jacket. I just thought that was an oversized pocket. Thx!!!

@danmoody2763 5 ай бұрын

Great review. I'm guessing now in 2024 with the new down sweater being 29% warmer than previous versions it's the warmer of the two. Would love to see a comparison for that.

@BackcountryRenegade 5 ай бұрын

its coming! just filmed a remake of this with the new models of each.

@MrCandyTsai 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for this beneficial info. I was putting those two jackets on my shopping list, and your video just came on time.

@BackcountryRenegade 3 жыл бұрын

Awesome, glad it was helpful

@sebastianfrank4295 3 жыл бұрын

Love your stuff, keep it up

@BackcountryRenegade 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching and the encouragement

@jonathansage2147 2 жыл бұрын

I just picked up a Cerium LT for use as a midlayer for my skiing setup. I was hoping I could use it around town a bit since it's such a nice looking jacket. There's no way I could wear this around town. It's way too hot for that.

@andy.m7274 Жыл бұрын

Jonathan I know your comment was a while ago, but I was thinking of getting the Cerium as layer for spring/fall camping/motorcycling and also to wear casually but is it really that hot?

@jonathansage2147 Жыл бұрын

@@andy.m7274 it's great if you're out for a walk, but if you are going out of the house and into a car, it just doesn't work. You're going to want the car to be 50 degrees and everyone else in it will hate you. I basically live in a North Face Denali fleece and that's just fine in the car. The Cerium LT is way warmer and gets clamy feeling if you're too hot in it. I do absolutely love the Cerium in my skiing setup though.

@andy.m7274 Жыл бұрын

@@jonathansage2147 thanks for the reply, as for me it’ll be used as a spring/fall base layer under my motorbike jacket and for around the campsite so maybe it’ll work, haha if not my kids will steal it for snowboarding in the back country! Thanks again man much appreciated

@jonathansage2147 Жыл бұрын

@@andy.m7274 absolutely. I think it will be great for that purpose.

@jonathansage2147 Жыл бұрын

@@andy.m7274 make sure you read and follow their sizing guide. I'm a medium in every other make. I'm a large in Arcteryx stuff and the guide is spot on.

@paulojoaquim2723 2 жыл бұрын

Great review …still … the Arcteryx is roughly 50% more expensive than the Patagonia…so honestly unless price is not an issue it is not a fair comparison in my view…

@BackcountryRenegade 2 жыл бұрын

I get your point, just comparing because some have asked.

@nikobuerk346 2 жыл бұрын

while that may be true price wise, these products are very competitive with each other. The patagonia is the value brand in this case...

@bmd6343 2 жыл бұрын

+1 some might say it’s like comparing a VW and an Audi. Both are very good cars but if I could choice I’d go for the Audi. Same too with these two jackets, especially as Arc is rarely heavily discounted especially in the most popular sizes(S and M)

@jakeminton74 9 ай бұрын

These products are direct competitiors. That just show how much more expensive acrteryx is. Arcteryx is always more expensive.

@Kanitsorn.Lohavita 10 ай бұрын

Both Arcteryx Cerium and Patagonia Down Sweater are becoming new version now. I'm looking forward to see your comparison between them, so much useful information. Do you want to review and compare again?

@BackcountryRenegade 10 ай бұрын

yes, im trying to get the updated cerium, and ill get a review out

@tangoromeo 3 жыл бұрын

Ah man, I’m about to buy a down jacket and was trying to pick between these two. Arc’teryx it is, thank you for a great review!

@BackcountryRenegade 3 жыл бұрын

Awesome glad it was helpful. Thanks for watching!

@markusf6964 3 жыл бұрын

I would test/try on both jackets. Dont let a youtube video made this decision for you. The Cerium Jacket has a awkward trim fit for an Acteryx. The Down Sweater is normally a lot cheaper compared to the Arcteryx. (I got my down sweater jacket on sale for around 120 AUD back in the days). The other advantage of the Down Sweater is the regular fit allows for a extra midlayer/fleece/sweatshirt. The regular fit is also better for an allround look in town..

@christianb8228 3 жыл бұрын

@@BackcountryRenegade what size is your Patagonia down jacket?

@BackcountryRenegade 3 жыл бұрын

@@christianb8228 it is a small

@christianb8228 3 жыл бұрын

@@BackcountryRenegade thanks!

@hfelder_03 3 жыл бұрын

Chrome had a news article suggestion about Patagonia’s R1 series. It would be great if you could review the various products of their line. I’m possibly going to buy another jacket/hoodie from them and I would like to get more information from your first impressions.

@BackcountryRenegade 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah I’ll look into those

@tangoromeo 3 жыл бұрын

I recently bought r1 air zip neck and after a week got the r1 air hoody as well. Extremely comfortable, very breathable (I run in them), the quality is top-notch. Don’t hesitate, best midlayer I’ve had. And the hoodie is so comfortable I use it daily as well.

@hfelder_03 3 жыл бұрын

@@tangoromeo My down sweater was just delivered and it’s everything that I expected. Thanks for the recommendation but I have one question: what’s the difference between R1 Air and the original R1 product line?

@tangoromeo 3 жыл бұрын

R1 air is both more breathable and warmer than the original. It’s the first design change they’ve made in over 20 years and for a good reason. Congrats on the down sweater!

@mtadams2009 8 ай бұрын

I have the Patagonia and use it as my daily driver. If you’re talking weight it’s Montbell Plasma 1000 all day long. I am an UL backpacker so weight is big for me. Montbell is about 5.3 ounces. Those both will do the job just not for an UL nut like myself.

@BackcountryRenegade 8 ай бұрын

yes i want to get that montbell plasma to test and review but it is expensive. maybe one day

@mtadams2009 8 ай бұрын

@@BackcountryRenegade They are. I usually go on their site way too much, especially at the end of the year and pick them up for about 50.00 off. I use mine only for backpacking. It has no pockets , it’s really only about weight savings and staying warm. Both of those jackets you reviewed would be better all around. Take care

@Adamas11 3 жыл бұрын

Great review! I am thinking about getting the Cerium LT vest or the Patagonia down sweater vest. Long story, but I burned my favorite outerwear piece, The North Face Summit Series Quince down vest ☹️ and need a replacement.

@thedawntrader1613 2 жыл бұрын

Similarities: Both jackts are heavily over-priced. Apart from that Arteryx wins easily :-)

@BackcountryRenegade 2 жыл бұрын

truth

@mariorock76 3 жыл бұрын

Hi. Very good review! I really like Arcteryx's jackets! I have an Atom LT, Atom AR, and a Beta SV shell. It's clothes are more for my hiking, fat bike etc. I wanted to buy myself the Cerium LT for my more urban rides, go to work, and to have comfort. I saw the Rab Microlight Alpine at 30% off, so I bought it. Yes, the quality of down is lower, it's 700, but it'ss recycled and hydrophobic. The jacket is heavier than the Cerium LT, but it's still light and you don't really feel it. I prefer its stylized look, and I love its hood with the little visor that fits perfectly on the head. Have you tried the Rab Microlight? If so, how do you compare it to the Cerium LT?

@BackcountryRenegade 3 жыл бұрын

I havent tried it out yet but heard good things. I'll see if I can get my hands on it to compare

@Blix79 2 жыл бұрын

I also have cerium lt, ar, and the rab microlight. I love the rab way more than I thought I would. Love the fit and the hood.

@rogue6069 2 жыл бұрын

“On the down side…” I see what you did there. 😉

@choendenkyirong8313 2 жыл бұрын

What was the name of the colour you are wearing for the LT? Also, how did the colour look in person? Is it more red or orange? Thanks!

@BackcountryRenegade 2 жыл бұрын

Arcteryx calls it the Dynasty, its is kind of a orangy red.

@choendenkyirong8313 2 жыл бұрын

@@BackcountryRenegade Thanks!

@choup67 2 жыл бұрын

I love your videos. I have difficulties to find information regarding the new version of the down sweater “Alplight” or “alpine downlab” jacket that seems to be quite similar to the down sweater but with a better compressibility, ratio light/weight and fit. Did you had the chance to try it ? Do you have some information about it ?

@crispgm Жыл бұрын

AlpLight is ligher (270g) but other feature is basically the same as down sweater.

@TheRedKobra 7 ай бұрын

I prefer the look of the Patagonia.

@jimbonguyen Жыл бұрын

Great review. Technically, you should be comparing the Patagonia Down Sweater hoody, not the jacket.

@BackcountryRenegade Жыл бұрын

fixed long ago in newer vids

@BackcountryRenegade Жыл бұрын

yes, thats to come, i have the sweater hoody hopfully withn the month

@timotye4079 2 жыл бұрын

I’d be curious to see a comparison with Patagonia and Kuhl

@Djdrunkdad Жыл бұрын

What size are you wearing in them?

@BackcountryRenegade Жыл бұрын

Both of these are men’s small

@MrGatz 7 ай бұрын

I have a ton of dead bird pieces. This is the only piece that doesn’t fit me well. The Cerium LT is slim and close to body. I didn’t like that it curved around my back tightly and pinched me under my arms. And I have same dimensions as the arcteryx model. This jacket made me look femme.

@raffixraffix2715 2 жыл бұрын

how tall are you ?

@BackcountryRenegade 2 жыл бұрын

5’7

@Picklechin88 2 жыл бұрын

What are ur proportions and what size is that arcteryx?

@BackcountryRenegade 2 жыл бұрын

Both are size small and I’m 5’7 , 140 lbs

@hamntro 2 жыл бұрын

@@BackcountryRenegade Excellent videos with detailed info, I was wondering if you can help me with some advice I'm 5' 10 no sure If I should get the medium size for the cerium Lt or the small..

@mileswhitaker9684 2 жыл бұрын

@@hamntro You should definitely get a medium. I'm 5'10 & 160 lbs. I recently got a medium and I'm on the fence about returning it for a large.

@pobio3683 2 жыл бұрын

@@mileswhitaker9684 I found that the sleeves are short for me on the Arcteryx down jackets. Is that just a me thing?

@jimblack8104 2 жыл бұрын

On the down side 😂

@adamprocter1352 3 жыл бұрын

What happens when you are wearing these and get caught in the rain without a shell?

@BackcountryRenegade 3 жыл бұрын

While these do have some dwr finish to repel light water, I have a really thin shell rain jacket I always keep with me that would go over this.

@Sqaured 2 жыл бұрын

What size are you wearing here?

@BackcountryRenegade 2 жыл бұрын

both are men's small

@deeez3606 2 жыл бұрын

Patagonia will never use hydrophobic down because it doesn’t have as good of a lifespan and they are very focused on longevity.

@BackcountryRenegade 2 жыл бұрын

good to know

@garaldo5147 2 жыл бұрын

Nice jackets, but the colors are not so appealing :(

@BackcountryRenegade 2 жыл бұрын

yeah they have a few other color options, but this is what i was sent lol.

@jessa.3857 2 жыл бұрын

I have the Patagonia and not the other and I'll say that the Patagonia jacket IS NOT WARM AT ALL!!! I have cheaper jackets that are much warmer. You're just paying for the name here folks.

@diegovegafrances 7 ай бұрын

Disagree, it is quite warm for an European winter. If you are using for expedition… perhaps

@zj9928 5 ай бұрын

Arcteryx Cerium LT is winner

@BackcountryRenegade 5 ай бұрын

cerium is great. but with the new updates to the down sweater it makes the battle more competive now. I have a new vid coming for it.

@zj9928 5 ай бұрын

Thanks for your response, i have both them as well, Patagonia down sweater is always great quality jacket ,Arcteryx is always more stylish , will like to see your new vid coming .@@BackcountryRenegade

@veetour 2 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately, these down products require the death of an animal. Companies could claim the down was responsibly harvested and they look after the welfare of animals all they want, but the geese are ultimately used as a product. They do get killed and there's no way someone can claim they lived a happy life.

@justinitsthatguyme010 2 жыл бұрын

Who fuckin cares

@paulmartin3372 9 ай бұрын

But the geese live on in the jacket 😂