Are 1 Part Paints A Good Option For Your Boat Project? Bertram Moppie Update!!

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4 жыл бұрын

Taking a first time look at Totalboat Wet Edge, a 1 part paint that I've not used before but have been getting a lot of questions about so thought I'd check it out! Also explaining what's been going on with the Bertram project and what to anticipate over the next couple weeks!
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@CobrasArt
@CobrasArt 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all your time and help with people; here in the Uk I am medically shielded so until 1st Aug Im stuck indoors with a boat that's itching for my attention. Stay safe and thanks to you for being here makes difference to the people who are staying in as well as the ones able to get to their boat and work.
@Sfrrob1
@Sfrrob1 4 жыл бұрын
Hey, I've been a LOOOONG time subscriber from over here in Australia. Just wanted to say thanks for all the content you've created over the years. It's so informative and Interesting and I hope you have many more years of creating content for us viewers to come! Thanks!
@JWMiller11
@JWMiller11 4 жыл бұрын
Just wanted to say thanks. Love the channel and your passion for building and helping others. Wish I could work on some of these projects with you. Your a great boat builder and teacher. Can’t wait to see what is next. Thanks brother!!!
@trusten2
@trusten2 4 жыл бұрын
I've been waiting for you to show Total Boat Wet Edge. Working on my own boat project and love Total Boat products. I'd just ordered tome Wet Edge and primer last week, so, so excited to see the second part of this video to see the results! And, to find out whether to tip the last coat! Thank you!
@steveburton5825
@steveburton5825 4 жыл бұрын
Enjoy your week off Andy! We'll be here when you get back. Love the tips and techniques as much as the work on the Bertram so don't worry about the slow(er) progress there.
@sprinkhole58
@sprinkhole58 4 жыл бұрын
Andy, I liked this episode. Talking through what you are doing and explaining it as a procedure is much more enjoyable than listening to a music overlay. THANKS AGAIN FOR GREAT STUFF!
@craigbyrne1441
@craigbyrne1441 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Andy, love the channel, it’s coming into autumn down here in Oz so I’ll have projects galore when it’s too cold to go fishing. Stay safe and thanks for all the great content.
@tartansailor
@tartansailor 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your generosity, Cheers, Richard
@kevintimmer3334
@kevintimmer3334 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Andy. I love the tutorial style videos. Very helpful.
@russcrosby
@russcrosby 4 жыл бұрын
Downeaster is the best description. Thanks for all I have learned from you. I appreciate it. - Russ
@mickfisch96
@mickfisch96 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Andy I always love your videos. Thanks from Australia
@charlesweishaar6013
@charlesweishaar6013 4 жыл бұрын
Andy, hang in there man. With the help of your vids I just finished the floor of our 31 JC hull. From framing, decking, 45 yards of CSM, 35 yards of 1708, 20 gallons of polyester, 3 gallons of epoxy, and a ton of hours. We are ready for a new type of deck paint, most of the locals are recommending it. It’s called Trucrete. Two part epoxy base, color flakes for contrast/anti skid, and two final coats of polyaspartic top coat. Fellow Captain did his three years ago and it looks brand new today. Not cheap but is hard as concrete after a day. Probably not something I would use on a cruiser, but for commercial boats, it wears and looks great. Thanks for all you do!
@TheOCHome
@TheOCHome 3 жыл бұрын
Love your channel. Reminds me if the PBS type shows I grew up watching. Great production and great info
@samwestoby140
@samwestoby140 4 жыл бұрын
Now you come out with this video. I already started to painting my boat. These tips would have helped . Greatly
@ghismo
@ghismo 4 жыл бұрын
When possible, I usually use both white and grey primer paint. Alternating color between coats is so much easier to see where you've been and what you've missed between each coat. I think it's a good way to get even coats. Primers are - from my experience - pretty good at coating, if you finish with white, it'll be white even if the underlying coat was grey...
@richardcorcorran8965
@richardcorcorran8965 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you keep doing what you are doing, your content is great.
@subgod
@subgod 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the inspiration!
@6speeddakota
@6speeddakota 4 жыл бұрын
I used 1 part interlux brightsides on my 1959 Glasspar, and it turned out fantastic. I'm so happy I went with paint instead of gelcoat. Watching your videos inspired me to paint it.
@drewthompson7457
@drewthompson7457 4 жыл бұрын
I had some Brightside that ended up the wrong shade. It sat for 10 years, until I decided to paint my basement stairs with it. 25 years later, it's starting to wear. And I do use my basement a lot.
@melinda5777
@melinda5777 4 жыл бұрын
This is interesting b/c I've never worked with this paint before, thank you!
@dallashallett3492
@dallashallett3492 4 жыл бұрын
Good on you Andy, Best wishes to you and you family mate.
@sailingluana3037
@sailingluana3037 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Andy. Great new vid. I have been recoring the deck of my Catalina 22. About done! I just sprayed wet edge on my poptop. It is NICE! I used paint thinner though. With the cool morning temps I fig the acetone in with the MS, it wouldn't be a deal.
@williammichels6391
@williammichels6391 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve used it on the back deck of my 42 commander since a previous owner butchered it with a previous one part ( deck also going to get carpeted so 2 part wasn’t necessary) honestly for a one part I was impressed, much more durable than people would expect and I’ve used interlux and other one part brands, this is by far my go to for anything where a one part can be used
@hotttt28
@hotttt28 2 жыл бұрын
awesome as usual !Humor is everything .
@Spetet
@Spetet 4 жыл бұрын
I used wet edge last year. What finally worked best was a low nap roller which needed scotch tape to get the loose hairs off, then tipping with an artist quality brush. Cheap paint brushes left marks
@vollrathvoid5216
@vollrathvoid5216 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the knowlage love your youtube channel keep it going =)
@andrewwilliams9419
@andrewwilliams9419 4 жыл бұрын
I applied Wet Edge with a brush on my galley backsplash and got the same results. The brushing strokes are visible at an angle but looks very good straight on so I am happy overall. I could sand and brush but the area is really to small.
@austin_1553
@austin_1553 4 жыл бұрын
I've used total boat wet edge before. What I found that worked the best was using to roll the paint up and down and then tip in a horizontal directions from wet edge to dry edge. Also, I found that using a foam brush worked better and tip the brush in a small amount of paint without any thinner. It turned out like glass.
@robertflindall4692
@robertflindall4692 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video - it's very timely for me. I'm going to be painting my sailboat this spring with a 1 part paint. I'll be spraying with a Fuji system though so should be interesting to see how it turns out.
@boatworkstoday
@boatworkstoday 4 жыл бұрын
Good luck!
@OrvilleHarmison
@OrvilleHarmison 4 жыл бұрын
Give us a report on how it turns out. Information is always good to have whether it comes from Andy or one of us.
@roryderbyshire4630
@roryderbyshire4630 2 жыл бұрын
You sound like a good bloke good for you keep it up. Cheers Rory
@jimneal25
@jimneal25 3 жыл бұрын
You have shown me so much. And thank you deeply. I only wish I knew how to buy in the quantities that you can. I can’t seam to find rolls of the glass.
@ronpeterson7773
@ronpeterson7773 4 жыл бұрын
thanks for all your videos, I really enjoy all your help for us do it your selfers. But I was wondering if I missed the follow up video? I dont see it listed. Thanks again Andy !!!
@jaquigreenlees
@jaquigreenlees 4 жыл бұрын
Back in the early 1980s I used a 1 part marine gelcoat to paint unprepared steel mounting system for a 10 foot satellite antennae. I could easily see the brush strokes right after application yet when we went to put the antennae on it the next day it was a perfectly smooth, shiny surface. Note: There was no thinner used at all, brush application on standing steel post directly from the can. The paint lasted extremely well, 10 years later there was not one flaw in the finish. Definitely a good product, I just wish I could remember what brand it was.
@stevethurlow6284
@stevethurlow6284 4 жыл бұрын
you talked about painting in your shop, go buy a 10 x20 steel tarp frame or two if you need one longer but use some thin painters plastic wide enough to cover the roof and some shorter to use on the side walls. I use some spring clamps to join the edges, that way you don't have to clean the whole shop and the lights still shine through. In the summer, I set up a AC unit at one end but turn it off when you start painting
@dinacaldwell7522
@dinacaldwell7522 4 жыл бұрын
I used total boat primer and wet edge 1 part for the main paint. Did a roll and tip with it and got lovely results.
@vivimu
@vivimu 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Dina, hows it held up so far? Durable?
@jockdoc85
@jockdoc85 4 жыл бұрын
Great work Andy! In regards to painting- watched your alexseal videos again and am priming Fri/Saturday with high build 302 and finishing with final 442. In 75 degree weather, if I wait 18-20 hours(less than 24), can I apply the 442 without sanding in. Between? Can I use their topcoat paint on the bottom of the boat if I don’t plan on leaving the boat in salt water more than an occasional 1-2 days?THX -smc
@UnyieldingSeraph
@UnyieldingSeraph 4 жыл бұрын
I have used wet edge and have been extremely satisfied. It held up to tennis ball sized hail last summer so no complaints. Edit: the panel painted with it faces straight up so it took direct hits from the hail. Lost a solar panel in that storm,
@vivimu
@vivimu 2 жыл бұрын
How's it holding up?
@johnmarionneaux8505
@johnmarionneaux8505 3 жыл бұрын
New to the channel and I love the video's! I pulled the floor out of my 98 21' Champion because of wood rot. Still trying to decide what I want to put back in, wood, composite, etc. What do you think about using Owen's pink insulation 1" thick with multiple layers of fiberglass?
@rastagrastag9496
@rastagrastag9496 4 жыл бұрын
Andy. I finished a project using the wet edge I am very satisfied with the way it laid out now only time will tell how it holds up...Everything about the paint was DYI friendly..
@vivimu
@vivimu 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Rasta G, how's the wet edge holding up? Durability ?
@MrAnythinggood
@MrAnythinggood 4 жыл бұрын
I use valspar hardener and the brushing thinner in totalboat one part top coat paints
@thecarolinahoosier3596
@thecarolinahoosier3596 4 жыл бұрын
I don’t even own a boat - yet. But I look forward to your Sunday videos every week!
@olivei2484
@olivei2484 4 жыл бұрын
Look out. They add up fast. I currently have four. Wish you much happiness in which ever boat you find.
@MrAnythinggood
@MrAnythinggood 4 жыл бұрын
Also been using foam rollers can be little messy just now using the red tree rollers from your amazon link definitely better but foam rollers can work for thin first coat
@russcrosby
@russcrosby 4 жыл бұрын
thanks for the video. I'd like to paint my hull with Alexseal, I wish I could see that. I'm willing to go the Patreon route if that's available. Great advice on the one part paint. Thank you
@DonHarden
@DonHarden 4 жыл бұрын
Andy, you brought up a good point, DUST. what do you do when you have a boat in the boat yard on in a slip and your trying to paint some or all of it? A paint booth is great but the average Joe doesn't have access to one big enough to put their boat into, like my 36 foot Hunter sail boat.
@svsalacia6495
@svsalacia6495 4 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to seeing which is a better finish rolled or rolled and tipped.
@PN_48
@PN_48 2 жыл бұрын
Did Andy ever answer that q?
@brookem4553
@brookem4553 Жыл бұрын
I’m wondering the same! 😬😬
@shadetreehandyman
@shadetreehandyman 3 жыл бұрын
It would be nice to have a link to the follow up on this here... I checked out the buffing video but it seemed to skip over how this turned out.
@uncommonsense9395
@uncommonsense9395 3 жыл бұрын
Is there a follow up video showing how the the second coat turned out?
@GeoffRendell
@GeoffRendell 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tips, I got a $1,000.00 gig and your advice really helps.
@jasonvoris521
@jasonvoris521 3 жыл бұрын
Me to looking foward to how the panel came out . was the roll n tip better ? Im gonna use a one part paint on my boat
@jzl300z
@jzl300z 4 жыл бұрын
How much coverage should I expect with this paint? Have a beat up leaning post I wanted to refresh on my center console. Thanks!
@officialWWM
@officialWWM 4 жыл бұрын
Perfect timing for this video. I'm restoring a 1970 Hartley Vixen. It's glass over ply construction with 50 years of god knows what or how many coats on it! My plan is to use a high build primer and block that back then use a 2k topcoat. I'd rather roll it than spray it (even though I'm a spray painter by trade) as I'm working in my garage and it will save a heap of time on masking Etc. Once I'm done, I'll block it back and buff it up. I'm curious how this pain will flatten out on a vertical surface?
@stevegem4155
@stevegem4155 4 жыл бұрын
Buy a better brand of paint you'll thank me for it
@Hardtimes57
@Hardtimes57 4 жыл бұрын
Yea, I was beginning to wonder if I will live long enough to see the Bertram finished. lol
@bullhippo9023
@bullhippo9023 4 жыл бұрын
I use Total Boat epoxy and fairing compound exclusively, I think they are wonderful. I have had poor results with their one part primer and paints not drying adequate, even after a week in the Fl. sun. I have read about others having the same issue. The product rep said I must have applied it too thick? Not so sure.....
@samueltaylor4989
@samueltaylor4989 4 жыл бұрын
Just remember, you wouldn’t have any Patreon members if not for this KZfaq channel!! 😝😊
@lukekirkham3445
@lukekirkham3445 3 жыл бұрын
What’s your opinion of painting over a flowcoat finished boat
@jimmorris8158
@jimmorris8158 4 жыл бұрын
How would you paint a non skid deck with a diamond pattern similar to the paint pan? 1 coat or 2 of what paint. Definitely can't afford awlgrip. Keep up the great work!
@TechyBen
@TechyBen 3 жыл бұрын
For me, it was time. Just did not have the time for 2 part or gelcoat. :( May try to do some decking/roof/details in 2 parts though to see what they are like. :)
@orlandocantu1258
@orlandocantu1258 4 жыл бұрын
What happen to the follow up video of the last coat?
@sdhflapper
@sdhflapper 4 жыл бұрын
Can someone help me out. I have been using West 105 and just switched to Totalboat 5:1. I have pumps for 105 but they are out of stock for Totalboat. Is there anything wrong with transferring the pumps. Or if they don't fit to fill up my 105 container with the totalboat resin? Same question for the hardner (both slow set). Thanks
@lailgrant5904
@lailgrant5904 4 жыл бұрын
That panel is going to a couple inches thick soon enough.
@trusten2
@trusten2 4 жыл бұрын
Nah, he keeps grinding or sanding it back all the time too. But yeah, that panel has sure done a lot to help show us all what to do!
@officialgearhead6736
@officialgearhead6736 4 жыл бұрын
Haha I was just thinking that. Eventually Andy you are going to have to hang that up on a wall somewhere in the shop
@slick8086
@slick8086 3 жыл бұрын
almost like Fordite! en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fordite
@brotherdom1
@brotherdom1 3 жыл бұрын
Would 1 coat carefully brushed on be enough ,With less thinners ?
@GaryT69
@GaryT69 4 жыл бұрын
I have a question I just made a repair to my boat and after 2 days later it’s dripping water . I bought the total boat epoxy resin kit and fiberglass cloth 6oz I put 21-22 layers to cover up the hole How can I stop it from dripping water
@easemailboxes
@easemailboxes 3 жыл бұрын
Are Bertrams considered a poor or high quality boat in the 1960-70s ? (love your videos!).
@pierremitham2964
@pierremitham2964 4 жыл бұрын
One-part paints are the majority of the DIY market where I am. the only 2-part that is easy to get is epiphanes. I'd love to see you compare Total boat to easypoxy so that we can see how 2 single part paints compare! Any thoughts on the Petit "performance enhancer" for one-part paints?
@PN_48
@PN_48 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe I missed it - did you ever decide whether the Wet Edge was better rolled, or rolled & tipped?
@selfdisplaced
@selfdisplaced 3 жыл бұрын
Was there an update to how the tipped version turned out?
@sketchyssk8shop
@sketchyssk8shop 4 жыл бұрын
How does this stuff do on vertical surfaces?
@mylespowers3965
@mylespowers3965 4 жыл бұрын
Yep, I think I will go with two part paint.
@TheDecguy
@TheDecguy 4 жыл бұрын
As always thank you!
@susanc.8009
@susanc.8009 6 ай бұрын
So this is an alkyd? What is in the thinner ingredient-mineral spirits and maybe some linseed oil?
@raybates3119
@raybates3119 4 жыл бұрын
Where do you get your Alexseal? Who has the best prices?
@kirkmartin2223
@kirkmartin2223 4 жыл бұрын
It looks like wet edge is a good product but my question is why use it when there are products like quantum99 and alexseal out there? This might be a good paint for a boot stripe maybe? Yeah it might be cheaper per gallon....but I'm a buy once cry once kinda guy. Being able to wet sand and repair a coating is paramount to cost, and thats because like most of your viewers....I'm not a professional lol. I sprayed my 20ft boat with quantum99 and had very few runs but a swarm of kamikaze insects hit the fresh paint. And being able to make repairs saved my a$$ I love the videos, keep them coming
@boatworkstoday
@boatworkstoday 4 жыл бұрын
Cost. 2 part paints are more expensive but you do get what you're paying for, however if budget doesn't allow for that expense then 1 part paints are a great option :-)
@mini696
@mini696 4 жыл бұрын
You get less waste with single part paints also.
@kennyjones9343
@kennyjones9343 4 жыл бұрын
I'm always watching videos. My idea of putting poly resin over epoxy is on par with you. But, A big but is. Why am I seeing you use gelcoat over the fairing compound. Its an epoxy isn't it. Or does something in the fairing compound make this epoxy different to allow gel out to be applied. Yes I understand color makes a good leveling indicator. Just curious.
@mini696
@mini696 4 жыл бұрын
One of these days we will see some progress on the boat.
@TimberRidgerenovation
@TimberRidgerenovation 4 жыл бұрын
That can says top side paint, is there a product similar that can be used on the hull of the boat? Or would you just recommend staying with 2 parts for under water line?
@PawlSpring
@PawlSpring 4 жыл бұрын
Even though the can says Top Side, I would use a two part for the top side (hull) of a boat because of the hardness and scuff resistance of 2-part systems. It is (relatively) easy to paint the topsides with a two part - so large of an area uninterrupted by fittings; perfect for roll & tip of a two part if you can't spray.
@JohnBobRoger
@JohnBobRoger 3 жыл бұрын
Topsides is the hull of the boat. the sides between the Bootstrip and the gunwale.
@russcrosby
@russcrosby 4 жыл бұрын
It's a 28' Cape Dory Trawler. Maine lobster style
@jonathanh.667
@jonathanh.667 4 жыл бұрын
Do you have it grounded, is that what the clips are at corner.
@wacoman11
@wacoman11 4 жыл бұрын
Uses them to hang the panels
@love2cad
@love2cad 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Andy, A couple videos ago you mentioned the inventory issues over at Total Boat. Do you happen to have any updates? I have ordered a bunch of the products you have shown recently and they seem to still be backordered... namely the Polyester Repair Putty. Thanks for all your help and keep the great work!!!
@trusten2
@trusten2 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Bobby, not Andy, just saw your comment. You can order most Total Boat products through Amazon. I've been using Total Boat stuff for years now, love their products. But, I found that order times through Amazon get to me just a bit quicker than ordering from Total Boat directly. And, the pricing has been the same from what I've seen. Just a thought.
@boatworkstoday
@boatworkstoday 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Bobby, I don't have any updates but do know that they are getting pinched like many other companies on the supplier side of things :-/
@10bbremer
@10bbremer 4 жыл бұрын
trusten2 And Jamestown Distributors.
@OrvilleHarmison
@OrvilleHarmison 4 жыл бұрын
@@boatworkstoday Hey Andy, can they order the total boat stuff through your Amazon link to help fund the channel, or would that negate any discounts, or cause any backlash for you?
@tonygunk7600
@tonygunk7600 2 жыл бұрын
I have a QUESTION. You used a product to tell if you needed to sand more on a boat that would wipe off. You said in the video “it doesn’t look like a lot but it is more than you will ever use”. I believe it was in a yellow container. What was that product
@boatworkstoday
@boatworkstoday 2 жыл бұрын
www.amazon.com/dp/B00GTYHCGG?ref=exp_boatworkstoday_dp_vv_d
@soonexrepublican7556
@soonexrepublican7556 Жыл бұрын
Can you replace my floor on 20 ft cc Aquasport. 1987
@sarahc4817
@sarahc4817 2 жыл бұрын
LOL 😂 sorry. Ah, our sweet innocent hope of it being done in a few weeks. It made me laugh because I originally thought the same.
@Afraidinct
@Afraidinct 4 жыл бұрын
Today is Sunday the 10th of May 2020. at 4 pm. I noticed that your usual Video is a little late. Just wondering if you are ok. Because of the Virus, when people Miss something it's a little unnerving. I am sorry for the intrusion and I am hope you are ok. ... Oooops, just watched the end of the video, LOL you said you were going to take a week off, sorry
@matthewtweedie64
@matthewtweedie64 4 жыл бұрын
I used Wet Edge Largo Blue for a skiff project. The paint was awesome! Just rolled out with the red tree rollers and the thinning agent. I did not have to tip at all. Great product. Keep the great content coming Andy! Here is the thread for the skiff www.microskiff.com/threads/1965-14’-ormond-skiff-looks-like-a-johnsen.46522/
@RobertSmith-xy8ti
@RobertSmith-xy8ti 4 жыл бұрын
How has the Wet Edge held up on the bottom? I am thinking about using it on the bottom of my skiff, but I wasn't sure how a 1 part would do.
@vivimu
@vivimu 2 жыл бұрын
I'd like to know as well...is the wet edge durable?
@officialgearhead6736
@officialgearhead6736 4 жыл бұрын
The 25 people who hit the dislike button... them and I need to have a conversation. This channel is by far the best and most in-depth channel for fiberglass work and pretty big boat projects, if it’s not for you just move on.
@kiddiescripterkiller
@kiddiescripterkiller 4 жыл бұрын
It's possible they hit the button by accident on their phone... I have done that... Watching a video, pausing it then grabbing my phone and carrying it around and hit the dislike button by accident. And only noticing it when I go to finish watching...
@nobody46820
@nobody46820 4 жыл бұрын
🙂👍🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
@ne2i
@ne2i 3 жыл бұрын
the word that goes unsaid...
@ikashibimauler
@ikashibimauler 4 жыл бұрын
Well, I'm not judging you with prioritizing patrons. Heaven knows I would do the same. The only thing I would say is to be a bit careful with going with a content paywall/patreon only videos. I used to watch a very popular show called Roadkill on youtube that went that way and its dead now.
@stevegem4155
@stevegem4155 4 жыл бұрын
I've used total boat paint it sucks I wouldn't recommend it to my worst enemy after you roll it on you have no time to tip because it tack up almost instantly. and if I got to buy some other wetting agent to add to it to make it flow longer, I might as well just buy the better paint to start with. You get what you pay for . And trust me I paid
@pezpengy9308
@pezpengy9308 4 жыл бұрын
im in hawaii so none of the excellent products you use are finanically practical here... the shipping can easily triple the base cost. so.... i use good ol rustoleum marine paint which is available at our local big box, applied VERY THIN (almost as a wash) with a foam roller. have to say i'm very happy with the results. apparently other folks think so as well because they actually paint their cars with it.
@zakaroonetwork777
@zakaroonetwork777 2 жыл бұрын
Two coats and he walks away.
@samueltaylor4989
@samueltaylor4989 4 жыл бұрын
You clickbaited us bro!! 😊
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