Are Hoglin Farms Overpowered?

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ilmango

ilmango

4 жыл бұрын

Discussing how hoglin farms (as of release 20w07a) will affect the game. Also finally answers if golden carrots or steak/pork chop is the better food.
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@jo_nm9484
@jo_nm9484 4 жыл бұрын
Eating a melon Everytime your hunger drops to 19.5 is the equivalent of skipping all meals and eating a fig bar every 5 minutes for the whole day
@pleasedontshootofficerihav4953
@pleasedontshootofficerihav4953 4 жыл бұрын
You mean 19?
@lamprohonx4581
@lamprohonx4581 4 жыл бұрын
@@pleasedontshootofficerihav4953 no cuz then you wouldn't get the regeneration boost?
@pleasedontshootofficerihav4953
@pleasedontshootofficerihav4953 4 жыл бұрын
LAMPROHONX 19.5 doesnt show on the hunger bar, and you cant eat until you reach at the very most 19, am i wrong?
@goldencloud7527
@goldencloud7527 4 жыл бұрын
@@pleasedontshootofficerihav4953 not wrong
@D.KlWA-aG
@D.KlWA-aG 4 жыл бұрын
Please dont shoot officer, i have a wife and kids! But do shoot my neighbor.
@wewd
@wewd 4 жыл бұрын
Piglins look like players when they run and it weirds me out.
@Andre-gn4sj
@Andre-gn4sj 4 жыл бұрын
wait for the I am stone Piglins edition
@nbvehbectw5640
@nbvehbectw5640 4 жыл бұрын
Not only that. Their fangs and nostrils look like cute anime eyes when they look right at you.
@gagetron8819
@gagetron8819 4 жыл бұрын
Spiral out
@ethanrosen5517
@ethanrosen5517 4 жыл бұрын
@@gagetron8819 KEEP. GOING.
@Turbulation1
@Turbulation1 4 жыл бұрын
They use player animation s which is very nice as in minecon of 2019, they used zombie animations.
@soisauce2673
@soisauce2673 4 жыл бұрын
Illmango: starts re-enacting everything that normal players do in the first few minutes of Minecraft to show the hoglin farm was feasible, emphasizing in like the most basic steps of survival early game Me: this man has to be mocking us
@blackthrone6976
@blackthrone6976 4 жыл бұрын
i remember once spending several hours trying to find diamonds, only to find only two. i had an easier time finding iron, and had an iron farm from a nearby village, but close to no diamonds...
@fezbpu
@fezbpu 4 жыл бұрын
@@blackthrone6976 I recommend you check out xisumavoid's techniqur
@ilmango
@ilmango 4 жыл бұрын
maybe get in contact with all the people that were in disbelief that this is an early game farm.
@FinnGambits
@FinnGambits 4 жыл бұрын
Omg it annoys me so much when noobs say diamonds are really difficult to find.. THEY'RE NOT! Once you have eff 4 fortune 3 you can get about a stack of diamonds an hour which means after 30 minutes of strip mining at y9 or y10 is my recommendation you should find diamond.
@don091
@don091 4 жыл бұрын
@@FinnGambits they're*
@FrankOnline007
@FrankOnline007 4 жыл бұрын
The only thing overpowered here is ilmango himself
@theinventor2866
@theinventor2866 4 жыл бұрын
You're welcome for the perfect 300.
@Learn_The_Cube
@Learn_The_Cube 4 жыл бұрын
The Inventor28 you're welcome for the imperfect 315
@griffin7670
@griffin7670 4 жыл бұрын
his name is god
@MadCrazeTheBlade708
@MadCrazeTheBlade708 4 жыл бұрын
Im here to make the likes 556...
@vbgvbg1133
@vbgvbg1133 4 жыл бұрын
Here at a pretty cool 632
@roguereaver634
@roguereaver634 4 жыл бұрын
I already got more porkshops than I could eat ever since 1.14 villager trading, which is also fairly easy to set up with any farm that can be converted to emeralds
@mooosje
@mooosje 4 жыл бұрын
Same thing for me, but with golden carrots. Once you cure a farmer villager from being a zombie villager, you can trade 1 emerald for 3 golden carrots. Combine that with the free emerald glitch with Librarians, and you got infinite Golden carrots. Stocked up on about a double chest of shulkers with it.
@wallbant928
@wallbant928 4 жыл бұрын
@@mooosje whats the free emerald glitch?
@0mirix
@0mirix 4 жыл бұрын
@@wallbant928 raid farm
@adamali1165
@adamali1165 4 жыл бұрын
Ryan M. Cho librarians charge less emeralds for bookshelves than they pay back for the books. So it’s infinite emeralds
@wallbant928
@wallbant928 4 жыл бұрын
@@adamali1165 lmao thats sick
@danktronboof4311
@danktronboof4311 4 жыл бұрын
ilmango: Are Hoglin Farms OP? ilmango’s shika duping llamas: 🧐
@user-oj6fy8ox4k
@user-oj6fy8ox4k 4 жыл бұрын
shyka diuping is illegal
@gertmognool2745
@gertmognool2745 4 жыл бұрын
Cecile Yi not illegal just bannable
@xyzzy-dv6te
@xyzzy-dv6te 4 жыл бұрын
@@gertmognool2745 So basically illegal
@benno2350
@benno2350 4 жыл бұрын
O shit its thog from yahoo
@maxwellli7057
@maxwellli7057 4 жыл бұрын
*Sheuker intensifies*
@thestevens580
@thestevens580 4 жыл бұрын
Short answer? Yes.
@demonsheadshot8086
@demonsheadshot8086 4 жыл бұрын
@Dr.Science its subjective
@dareokoski8158
@dareokoski8158 4 жыл бұрын
@Dr.Science yes
@Fran-yd8mw
@Fran-yd8mw 4 жыл бұрын
@Dr.Science Yes, but etc.
@kristoferssturis759
@kristoferssturis759 4 жыл бұрын
@Dr.Science yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeessssssss
@Gabes1321
@Gabes1321 4 жыл бұрын
Dr.Science yes but actually no but actually yes again
@sticky0159
@sticky0159 4 жыл бұрын
When you put it into SciCraft level scale, every farm is overpowered lol.
@sim6965
@sim6965 4 жыл бұрын
Did you even watch the video?
@cole7638
@cole7638 4 жыл бұрын
@@sim6965 r.i.p all the poor poor musherooms in the farm
@vbgvbg1133
@vbgvbg1133 4 жыл бұрын
5 billion skidoodles in 0 ticks
@someone-zx5hq
@someone-zx5hq 3 жыл бұрын
Point 5 if you ask it as a question answer is yes cus they store them and spawn proff whole server i dont remember mechanics so yeah
@dimmmmmmp
@dimmmmmmp 2 жыл бұрын
When you put it into SciCraft level scale, every farm is NOT ENOUGH
@OPEK.
@OPEK. 4 жыл бұрын
I want to see the scicraft guys do pvp. It will probably be tnt duper dogfights or something
@psun256
@psun256 4 жыл бұрын
Lmao
@TheRealWormbo
@TheRealWormbo 4 жыл бұрын
They have participated in UHC events more than once and their technical knowledge helped them prepare quite well.
@user-rp3js6ux8p
@user-rp3js6ux8p 4 жыл бұрын
That will be a WW3
@cheeselord8153
@cheeselord8153 4 жыл бұрын
TheRealWormbo didn't ilmango do uhc captains that one time
@angusclark6170
@angusclark6170 4 жыл бұрын
TheRealWormbo please tell me you have a link
@AJ213Probably
@AJ213Probably 4 жыл бұрын
I am a fan of constantly eating because then I am less likely to die and I don't have to think about eating really. Worth the loss for me. Its actually kind of annoying seeing peoples hunger bars not full.
@SennaHawx
@SennaHawx 4 жыл бұрын
Same. It's kinda weird not to do that, if you have a automatic food farm.
@XIIchiron78
@XIIchiron78 4 жыл бұрын
Same, food is cheap and easy to get, so I'd rather be prepared in case I get swarmed by mobs etc
@at_
@at_ 4 жыл бұрын
Same, I have almost unlimited food on my survival server it just doesn’t feel right not having your hunger bar filled up.
@Potatezone
@Potatezone 4 жыл бұрын
Same, and I'm addicted to using villagers, so I already have infinite golden carrots from farmers. Making a super beefy cow/pig farm isn't that useful.
@TheRealWormbo
@TheRealWormbo 4 жыл бұрын
Ilmango mentioned it somewhat implicitly, but while health regeneration requires you to have full health, it actually first uses up the (invisible, at least without mods) saturation first. If you start losing hunger points, your saturation will already be at zero. Now if you eat only a single golden carrot, your hunger bar may be full, but your saturation is "only" at 14.4. If instead you wait until you can eat multiple food items (and eat food with a good saturation value), the last one will top up not only your hunger bar, but also your saturation. The result will be that you can go longer without your hunger bar actually draining. If you need to regenerate health during that time, there is more saturation available for fast health regeneration before hunger drops to less than 17 points, which switches to slower regeneration. In the late game, which is most of the time, really, when you don't really care about mobs anymore because your base is secure, repeated damage isn't really a thing you need to be worried about anymore. As such, just eating only after taking damage or when you stop sprinting is totally fine.
@Michael-wk7ug
@Michael-wk7ug 4 жыл бұрын
Every time I see his intro I think “Wow.... we need mangos in the game”
@alqatav8848
@alqatav8848 3 жыл бұрын
Yes
@moopymeebloopy456
@moopymeebloopy456 3 жыл бұрын
There’s a texture pack that makes golden apples look like ilmango mangoes
@aloysiuskurnia7643
@aloysiuskurnia7643 3 жыл бұрын
knowing ilmango, if it's implemented into game he will *surely* make a giant farm out of it
@crys.
@crys. 4 жыл бұрын
They should make the eating time for golden carrots faster
@user-wq9mw2xz3j
@user-wq9mw2xz3j 4 жыл бұрын
yeah, the beef & pork should take more time to eat than normal, while the carrots, potato and apples should be eaten a bit faster than normal
@shavingryansprivate9572
@shavingryansprivate9572 4 жыл бұрын
You're wrong why would you wish for the amount of time consuming food to be longer? That’s the dumbest thing to wish
@znae9243
@znae9243 4 жыл бұрын
shaving ryans private because it’s in the combat snapshot
@user-wq9mw2xz3j
@user-wq9mw2xz3j 4 жыл бұрын
@@shavingryansprivate9572 To balance them out
@amolvijayachandran
@amolvijayachandran 4 жыл бұрын
Lol 70th like
@94doodle
@94doodle 4 жыл бұрын
Meat vs G Carrots is about your eating habits. I like to eat the moment my regen falls off so carrots are better for me, combat or not. If you want maximum efficiency meats are barely better. Also the fact you don't have to breed for carrots like you do with meat (Which would no longer be an issue with Hoglin farms...) On the other hand it took me like 2 weeks of gameplay to make it through the steaks I got from leather breeding for my first enchanting station. I don't think hoglins are going to be OP, food in Minecraft is really more of an afterthought and you still need to AFK in the nether, rather than running around doing useful stuff in the overworld while your cow farm runs.
@akarshrao47
@akarshrao47 4 жыл бұрын
You can go afk for some hours and not worry about food for some weeks...✌🏻
@user-en7dx1qp3k
@user-en7dx1qp3k 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah. It's the difference between eating when you're hungry and eating when you're starving
@dat_fast_boi
@dat_fast_boi 4 жыл бұрын
@@user-en7dx1qp3k so golden carrots are better, as you're not you when you're hungry
@aronvlaardingerbroek2107
@aronvlaardingerbroek2107 4 жыл бұрын
Also keep in mind that gcarrots are more expensive, especially since gold got way more useful in the nether update
@limonlx7182
@limonlx7182 4 жыл бұрын
@@aronvlaardingerbroek2107 villager trading. I've easily got a stack of golden carrots, and I still can't eat all of it.
@8is
@8is 4 жыл бұрын
11:22 "smelt your food"
@rida9639
@rida9639 4 жыл бұрын
make it crispy
@dareokoski8158
@dareokoski8158 4 жыл бұрын
use flint and steel u mad man
@user-wq9mw2xz3j
@user-wq9mw2xz3j 4 жыл бұрын
there is really no need to smelt food since burning them with lava or flint&steel is way more efficient. If you kill them yourself you can also have fire aspect enchantment
@hobrin4242
@hobrin4242 4 жыл бұрын
@@user-wq9mw2xz3j it is about that the phrase "smelting food"
@user-wq9mw2xz3j
@user-wq9mw2xz3j 4 жыл бұрын
@@hobrin4242 well in minecraft there is really no difference to smelting and cooking so...
@TheRealGuywithoutaMustache
@TheRealGuywithoutaMustache 4 жыл бұрын
Are hoglin farms overpowered? Is water H2O? Of course
@akaakaakaak5779
@akaakaakaak5779 4 жыл бұрын
Just Some Guy without a Mustache even mine craft videos? Literally every damn video
@andrew66769
@andrew66769 4 жыл бұрын
@@akaakaakaak5779 if he didnt make comments specific to the video id swear hes a bot. maybe its a really advanced AI who really knows
@testicle-sama7501
@testicle-sama7501 4 жыл бұрын
Youre every where frickin every where
@dareokoski8158
@dareokoski8158 4 жыл бұрын
no, water is hydrogen dioxide
@gearoidgarvey8266
@gearoidgarvey8266 4 жыл бұрын
@@dareokoski8158 wrong, dihydrogen monoxide
@Q_z_
@Q_z_ 4 жыл бұрын
It's so weird seeing mango describe basic steps like mining iron like a proper tutorial... Usually it's something like place a Redstone line here to quasi-connect and power x complicated circuit component
@gymzaal4412
@gymzaal4412 4 жыл бұрын
Ik, but he's just proving a point
@rishalnarayan9904
@rishalnarayan9904 4 жыл бұрын
Hoglin farms aren't overpowered, you are
@rize7737
@rize7737 4 жыл бұрын
1.17, Nerth Illmango
@minehaecksler
@minehaecksler 4 жыл бұрын
Ok@@rize7737
@fikfik5382
@fikfik5382 4 жыл бұрын
Borov
@captaincraftit696
@captaincraftit696 4 жыл бұрын
"Hoglin farms ain't super strong Mango, _you're_ super strong!"
@CrispyChicken38
@CrispyChicken38 4 жыл бұрын
Ilmango, the fact that you said this would "Nerf the system for casual players" means you are perfectly fine with only redstone genius's having easy access to good food. It's a bit fucky that you are so dissapointed that you don't need an impossible machine for a meat farm that you would suggest such a massive Nerf just so you could have more challenge. How about if you don't like the farm, don't use it? Make your regular year long collaborative project while the rest of us are happy we do not have to manually kill cows or do super boring afk methods anymore. Honestly, the food system is so annoying that I usually just make my first project on any server a pumpkin and sugarcane farm as well as an egg farm, because pumpkin pie is easier than wasting a month just to sort out my food situation. In a survival game with automation elements, automating food should NOT take 1 year. It should be one of the easiest things to get sorted so bigger and better things can be done.
@sweepingpage1845
@sweepingpage1845 4 жыл бұрын
How did you get carpet mod working on 20w07a? Edit: nevermind, the asset is there on the releases page now, lol
@cameronmcleod715
@cameronmcleod715 4 жыл бұрын
Also he is friends with the creators of the carpet mod
@dareokoski8158
@dareokoski8158 4 жыл бұрын
HACKS
@muzaqqiralibaig
@muzaqqiralibaig 4 жыл бұрын
@@cameronmcleod715 Gnembon "the creator" is a Scicraft Member
@ERN468.
@ERN468. 4 жыл бұрын
@@muzaqqiralibaig so what he said was true...
@ridakesserwan8712
@ridakesserwan8712 4 жыл бұрын
@@muzaqqiralibaig LOL
@vignotum132
@vignotum132 4 жыл бұрын
6:33 "reduce the population"
@Leginod
@Leginod 4 жыл бұрын
hahahahahaha
@imperialguardsman135
@imperialguardsman135 4 жыл бұрын
Poland: **chukles** I'm in danger
@lollol-co6ly
@lollol-co6ly 4 жыл бұрын
FBI joins the chat.
@CliffJumpingProd
@CliffJumpingProd 4 жыл бұрын
and with the calm german accent lol xD
@tamasmasable
@tamasmasable 4 жыл бұрын
Leninod Your pfp is perfect for this comment
@ekoto214
@ekoto214 4 жыл бұрын
It might be owerpowered, but I don't think it's intentional to be able to build a farm on the nether roof
@CaelVK
@CaelVK 4 жыл бұрын
They got out their way to make it so portals on top of the nether can link up with overworld portals so I think its at least recognized that you can do it
@TheRealWormbo
@TheRealWormbo 4 жыл бұрын
The nether's built height was 127 in earlier Java edition versions, like it is in Bedrock edition, but it was extended to 255. Bedrock breaking may not be intentional, but building above the bedrock ceiling definitely is considered a feature.
@Natsuxc74
@Natsuxc74 4 жыл бұрын
Nether roof portal is a feature now, no more a bug.
@Henrix1998
@Henrix1998 4 жыл бұрын
It is a bug but it would upset too many players to fix
@samuvisser
@samuvisser 4 жыл бұрын
TheRealWormbo wel the build height thing was mainly for the overworld. The fact there is an unbreakable block between the player and the roof and the only way to get there is using glitches should tell us it’s definitely a bug they just don’t fix as many people use it
@MrHatoi
@MrHatoi 4 жыл бұрын
"There are even food options in the desert biomes" _looks at rabbits_
@jhitgoomba1
@jhitgoomba1 4 жыл бұрын
Ilmango: steak and porkchop are the best food sources That one dude who has had a world since 2009: Notch apples is the best food source
@tarezofficial981
@tarezofficial981 3 жыл бұрын
Back then where you could craft them this was actually pretty viable.
@claudiu7909
@claudiu7909 4 жыл бұрын
how come everyone spawns with villagers near by? all my spawns are in the middle of nowhere.
@mkyral
@mkyral 4 жыл бұрын
Use someone else seed ;-)
@abdulmannanbabar8020
@abdulmannanbabar8020 4 жыл бұрын
I have like five villages around my base lol
@hobrin4242
@hobrin4242 4 жыл бұрын
villages got a lot less rare with the 1.14 things. I remember a world where we only went exploring to find villages. and we found at least 11
@livedandletdie
@livedandletdie 4 жыл бұрын
They are extremely common. It makes the survival aspect trivial. As you only need to walk about 500 meters in any direction to find one.
@swskitso
@swskitso 4 жыл бұрын
When you start a new map start in creative and fly around to determine if it is a map you wish to use, if you like it get the seed and start all over in survival.
@robertskitch
@robertskitch 4 жыл бұрын
5:25 Minecraft: Meat and fish are objectively the best food and it's okay if that is all you eat. Fruit and veg are generally only good if you cover them in gold. Me: Are you sure you're a certified nutrionist?
@livedandletdie
@livedandletdie 4 жыл бұрын
Sounds about right in real life you actually only need to eat fat fish as it contains literally everything you need. Of course you'd have to eat it raw, due to Vitamin C breaking down when you heat it up.
@triffnix
@triffnix 4 жыл бұрын
@@livedandletdie damn, about time to get used to the taste for me I guess
@rcb2371
@rcb2371 4 жыл бұрын
@The Major and you would need to eat the whole fish, not just the meat...
@triffnix
@triffnix 4 жыл бұрын
@@rcb2371 ok
@dakotadirig7562
@dakotadirig7562 4 жыл бұрын
@@triffnix intestines and eyeballs and everything m8, I couldnt do that 😂
@merukit
@merukit 4 жыл бұрын
remember when pigmen dropped cooked porkchops and it was OP?
@dakota6050
@dakota6050 3 жыл бұрын
Just burn the pig and them slap him and hell give cooked porkchop
@GOAT_GOATERSON
@GOAT_GOATERSON 3 жыл бұрын
@@dakota6050 he was talking about zombie pigmen
@dakota6050
@dakota6050 3 жыл бұрын
@@GOAT_GOATERSON o
@windywendi
@windywendi 2 жыл бұрын
That was such a long time ago, even before hunger system was introduced.
@SaturdayNightSocks
@SaturdayNightSocks 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the high quality coverage of this new update. A lot to take in and try and understand in terms of how the game can/will be played in the future. Appreciate it
@nikitaostrovsky8416
@nikitaostrovsky8416 4 жыл бұрын
ilmango: as long as the game is not crashed every farm is underpowered
@anD_halfwayCrook
@anD_halfwayCrook 4 жыл бұрын
Hell no pls dont remove the nether roof, it is a huge part of the mid-/endgame and the new nether roof hubs are just great
@pokeslim
@pokeslim 3 жыл бұрын
In my opinion it takes a lot away from the game. It makes building anywhere else in the nether completely pointless in survival.
@raiduay7060
@raiduay7060 3 жыл бұрын
@@pokeslim just one word: fortress
@pokeslim
@pokeslim 3 жыл бұрын
@@raiduay7060 all you need that for is a couple of farms. I'm talking about nether hubs.
@gerardmatthieu907
@gerardmatthieu907 Жыл бұрын
@@pokeslim I aggre with you : i spend almost no time in my fortress farm now that i am in late game ( the raid farm give me witch loot including already breaded potions ; so i only use sometime the wither skull farm to get some new permanent beacons ) but most the use i make out of the nether is travelling , portal based farms and epic buildings , so maybe people would say that i doesnt play fair nether , but honestly when i dont care about the loots anymore , it is quite convenient to move and build freely in the nether without digging a perimeter ( i am opposed to tnt dupping )
@angstyteen1215
@angstyteen1215 Жыл бұрын
@@gerardmatthieu907 what about bartering or gold farm or magma farm? Or looking for snout banner?
@ahmetsezginn
@ahmetsezginn 4 жыл бұрын
Hoglin farm should be a speedrun category
@thepowerful7593
@thepowerful7593 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine people seed hunting for this stuff lol
@VaneyRio
@VaneyRio 3 жыл бұрын
9 stacks of pork chops any% random seed glitchless
@noctiluca59
@noctiluca59 4 жыл бұрын
"Reduce the population again" *Gasps in horror* Can people stop making gas chamber jokes on this comment it is not how I intended it to be.
@xensakura595
@xensakura595 4 жыл бұрын
*insert nazi Germany joke here*
@svenbieli1094
@svenbieli1094 4 жыл бұрын
Answer to shocking to be shown
@gohzy7425
@gohzy7425 4 жыл бұрын
*insert offended Karen here*
@draevonmay7704
@draevonmay7704 4 жыл бұрын
MrRedstone___ 🏅
@Sjrm126
@Sjrm126 4 жыл бұрын
I mean, he is German...
@Nekzuris
@Nekzuris 4 жыл бұрын
Also to nerf this mojang could just make Hoglin drop "Hoglin -steak- meat", a new type of food that wouldn't be as good as porkchop.
@StAngerNo1
@StAngerNo1 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, if they are on the level of cooked chicken, they will provide a nice food source for nether exploring or a nether base, but will be uninteresting from an "endgame" perspective.
@_tertle3892
@_tertle3892 4 жыл бұрын
Why would something with hog in its name drop steak. You do know a hog is a pig
@Nekzuris
@Nekzuris 4 жыл бұрын
Petr Finifear Yeah excuse my vocabulary I’m french
@_tertle3892
@_tertle3892 4 жыл бұрын
Nekzuris ok sorry
@D8W2P4
@D8W2P4 4 жыл бұрын
@@_tertle3892 Steak is a type of meat cut, it is NOT exclusive to Bovines.
@squelchedotter
@squelchedotter 4 жыл бұрын
my opinion: +1 on 400 tick hoglin spawning -1 on nether to 256 I think automated food should harder, but still be feasible for semi-casual players. The 128block nether allows people who are unwilling to excavate giant perimeters to still have some fun building nether farms, and that would be a sad thing to lose.
@ultralysp
@ultralysp 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, ilmango forgot world eaters aren’t exactly used outside of big technical servers
@reyez1983
@reyez1983 4 жыл бұрын
I jam out to the intro song every time.
@elliwesishawkins4799
@elliwesishawkins4799 4 жыл бұрын
The dropshoot is useful for fall damage, but you can place the hoppers below the signs below the lava and the hoglin hitbox will keep them dieing to lava damage, and baby hoglins won’t die until they grow up
@PanNic97
@PanNic97 4 жыл бұрын
You definetly dont want to wair for babies to grow up, it takes 20 minutes for them and they would block the mobcap all the time, its way faster to just get rid of all and spawn new ones
@jacksonpercy8044
@jacksonpercy8044 4 жыл бұрын
@@PanNic97 Hoglins keep spawning regardless of mob cap, so they will just accumulate and lag the game.
@PanNic97
@PanNic97 4 жыл бұрын
@@jacksonpercy8044 no they wont, are you reffering to methodzz video? You have to be 16 blocks or closer for them to get the persistance required tag and then they wont despawn
@superslimanoniem4712
@superslimanoniem4712 2 жыл бұрын
@@PanNic97 just put down campfires at the bottom.
@JustJum
@JustJum 4 жыл бұрын
"Increase the nether to 256 blocks" Why are you suggesting that they break gold farms? :( (And how would the new chunks even morph with the old ones anyway)
@dysonlewis6990
@dysonlewis6990 4 жыл бұрын
It wouldn't break gold farms, You would just need to spawn proof the area around the farm, just like what You would do with Wither skeleton farms.
@BarginsGalore
@BarginsGalore 3 жыл бұрын
The chunk transition wouldn’t be pretty. You would get a big gap between the new roof and old roof on the new chunk boarders
@JosephRooks
@JosephRooks 3 жыл бұрын
Bargins Galore Chunk borders have never put Mojang off in the past. They could also just make it configurable and leave old worlds at 128.
@m4gg197
@m4gg197 3 жыл бұрын
@@JosephRooks yeah or create some sort of transition chunk that it actually Fades and gets bigger over time (/distance) What would be much more difficult lol
@cultistaautista
@cultistaautista 4 жыл бұрын
I've played the game about 7 years ago or somewhere around that and yeah, food wasn't an easy thing to get. I remember having to go on an epic quest miles away just to find 2 cows and bring them home to breed for a reliable food source. Bread was also a thing but I never liked how few you get at any time unless you make a giant wheat farm, making it even more annoying with gathering and planting it back with the seeds taking all your inventory.
@colton.421
@colton.421 4 жыл бұрын
Personally I kind of miss when it wasn’t so easy to get food. You actually had to work to get food, whereas now you just have to find a village and dig up the hay bales.
@MarcelVos
@MarcelVos 3 жыл бұрын
@@colton.421 It was still very easy back then. It may have taken some effort to get 2 pigs or 2 cows, but once that was done you have infinite food.
@jcr1g235
@jcr1g235 4 жыл бұрын
You should do a Minecraft play through where you start in the nether and always respawn in the nether, and try to use the new nether mechanics to create a piglin farm and do everything necessaryto trade gold until you can make a nether portal and get back to the over world.
@rudy3396
@rudy3396 4 жыл бұрын
But you easily win from nether fortress because you can get FnS and obsidian in chests
@rudy3396
@rudy3396 4 жыл бұрын
And you don’t even need FnS just obsidian because you can use a ghast to light the portal
@jcr1g235
@jcr1g235 4 жыл бұрын
That’s a good point. I think the majority of those issues could be solved by not using the nether fortress chests and destroying the original portal in creative, but the issue of using ghasts instead of fire charges to light the portal could make the playthrough significantly easier.
@michaelmcdonald3427
@michaelmcdonald3427 4 жыл бұрын
when he loaded the random seeds he spawned next to a village, then next to an ocean monument... this is the luckiest man alive
@nbvehbectw5640
@nbvehbectw5640 4 жыл бұрын
I really like these explaining videos) Like those ones where you explained how pickaxes and armor work, and this one with food explanation. Even though it's possible to just read this on Minecraft wiki, I didn't really care much about details, it was enough for me to know which pickaxe is better and which is worse. But it's still nice to learn these details, gives more understanding about game mechanics.
@dykrev
@dykrev 4 жыл бұрын
15:38 Even though I was also thinking they should probably do this, I never really expected these words to come from you, Ilmango.
@loler-it8nz
@loler-it8nz 4 жыл бұрын
to be fair, any farm is overpowered if it's an ilmango farm
@jammygamer8961
@jammygamer8961 4 жыл бұрын
Don't suspicious stews crafted with a dandelion give very high saturation too?
@RonDe675
@RonDe675 4 жыл бұрын
Yes but because they don't stack the only real way it would be worth it is if you use the trick where you feed a mooshroom a dandelion, but even then youd have to bring a mooshroom everywhere which is annoying
@TheRealWormbo
@TheRealWormbo 4 жыл бұрын
Foods that don't stack and/or leave behind another item are kind-of annoying to use.
@jammygamer8961
@jammygamer8961 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheRealWormbo true
@Trianull
@Trianull 4 жыл бұрын
I read the title as “Are Hooligan farms overpowered” for a moment
@Kavukamari
@Kavukamari 4 жыл бұрын
0:52 what a starter seed, there's an ocean monument RIGHT THERE
@dementionalpotato
@dementionalpotato 4 жыл бұрын
“People where doubting that this is an early game farm” this is one of the easiest farm I’ve ever seen, I’m actually in disbelief.
@tr4deyy612
@tr4deyy612 3 жыл бұрын
@Nicholas Frankenhoff if u really wanted to, you can beat mc in a day and get full netherite too
@tr4deyy612
@tr4deyy612 3 жыл бұрын
@Nicholas Frankenhoff thats fine
@akarshrao47
@akarshrao47 4 жыл бұрын
"Building a massive gold farm in nether can be the other way to go around and make garrots..." I did that and now repent ...😂
@Wortigon2000
@Wortigon2000 4 жыл бұрын
Getting a bunch of gold can be uswful for other reasons too. Like piglin bartering, or powered rails, if you don't like rail duping
@jacksonpercy8044
@jacksonpercy8044 4 жыл бұрын
Garrot? Have you been strangling the hoglins?
@akarshrao47
@akarshrao47 4 жыл бұрын
@@jacksonpercy8044 Garrot = Golden Carrot... I'm no executioner...😂😂
@zinc_magnesium
@zinc_magnesium 4 жыл бұрын
When he started talking about removing every grass block in the spawn chunks I couldn’t help but remember chocolate island.
@irisinthedarkworld
@irisinthedarkworld 3 жыл бұрын
omgosh same
@AWriterWandering
@AWriterWandering 4 жыл бұрын
IlMango: A Hoglin farm on top of the nether makes it too easy to get food. Mojang: Okay, we will just make it so mobs don’t spawn on top of the nether.
@connorschultz380
@connorschultz380 4 жыл бұрын
Mojang: you fool... biomes are cubic now Community: surprised pickchu face *netherroof biome void*
@Nick-xw8hr
@Nick-xw8hr 4 жыл бұрын
Does this man sleep? That is the real question here.
@C4pungMaster
@C4pungMaster 4 жыл бұрын
His dreams are new ways to build a farm or making them even more efficient
@itai7809
@itai7809 4 жыл бұрын
@@C4pungMaster he played so much Minecraft his brain can now run an accurate simulation of the game in his imagination.
@bulldozer8950
@bulldozer8950 4 жыл бұрын
No. He has gotten to another level. He doesn’t need to sleep while playing Minecraft because it is so ingrained in him. This also explains why he is able to do efficiently build farms. He is working 24/7
@dpokor
@dpokor 4 жыл бұрын
He built a mob-switch on his spawn chunks so he doesn't need to sleep anymore
@literallyanythingelse123
@literallyanythingelse123 4 жыл бұрын
Ilmango looks at rabbit - "theres even food sources in the desert" you cruel heartless genius
@_cabbage_
@_cabbage_ 4 жыл бұрын
11:57 He missed a diamond. This makes me annoyed on a new level.
@bitofanidiot5572
@bitofanidiot5572 3 жыл бұрын
8:41 the landscape looks like it's been peed on
@etimturner9588
@etimturner9588 4 жыл бұрын
Ilmango is taking over the world...one pork chop at a time
@TwoPlyGaming
@TwoPlyGaming 4 жыл бұрын
cant wait for the bedrock farm
@heksariusl8916
@heksariusl8916 3 жыл бұрын
They actually get one now
@superslimanoniem4712
@superslimanoniem4712 2 жыл бұрын
And they actually made one. Command block farm next?
@TwentySeventhLetter
@TwentySeventhLetter 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah the remedy for this situation is to completely revolutionize the food system, it's not like nerfing this would address the underlying problem with how players interact with the mechanic being really uninteresting
@CoolVictor2002
@CoolVictor2002 4 жыл бұрын
Nutrition mechanic? Eat too much of one thing and you get sick or no benefit, but eating different foods gives small bonuses
@D8W2P4
@D8W2P4 4 жыл бұрын
Just have hunger apply to healing.
@seiretzym
@seiretzym 4 жыл бұрын
I love watching your videos because I am a totally different kind of player. I found it interesting that you talk about new food types as redundant and uninteresting, for instance, because for me I love to play the game like a simple farmer so more food types is always something that excites me!
@gymzaal4412
@gymzaal4412 4 жыл бұрын
Some people like to play Minecraft in an 'early game' where they don't really make farms or anything like that. But if you're focused on that stuff. You will get out of the early game very fast and food becomes a chore
@PsychoKern
@PsychoKern 4 жыл бұрын
I'm not a gnelf, I'm not a gnome... I'm a hoglin! And you've been *hooooogged!*
@uw_0760
@uw_0760 4 жыл бұрын
I think the "mango" at the intro kinda looks like a yellow pear
@natemitchell6903
@natemitchell6903 4 жыл бұрын
Tip: you can eat chours fruit to fully fill your saturation
@MrRyanroberson1
@MrRyanroberson1 4 жыл бұрын
expanding the nether to 256 would be an absolute tragedy, and would also break continuity (carrying over an existing world would actually open up 128 block tall holes in the nether ceiling)
@rjamsbury1
@rjamsbury1 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you - very interesting. 12:30 for how to get onto the nether roof.
@Catlord98765
@Catlord98765 4 жыл бұрын
Me reading the title: No? Me seeing its an ilmango video: Yes.
@Kdotkage
@Kdotkage 4 жыл бұрын
0:56 there's legit an ocean monument underwater
@dr.eximus
@dr.eximus 4 жыл бұрын
Ilmango: displays every food item and their rank. Chorus fruit: am I a joke to you?
@carpedm9846
@carpedm9846 4 жыл бұрын
Oh thats quite neat. But an automated chicken farm can be done, you can take the eggs and ricet them into an autofiring dispenser with hoppers, so that it creates more chickens and squishes them, which gives you free chicken breasts. That seems like a nice overworld alternative, even though it can get a bit cloggy with feathers
@Alex-jv5dh
@Alex-jv5dh 4 жыл бұрын
Best. Intro. Ever.
@racernatorde5318
@racernatorde5318 4 жыл бұрын
To be fair, Mojang probably does not intend for players to enter the nether roof. In that case it would be quite alot of effort to build a hoglin farm.
@ilmango
@ilmango 4 жыл бұрын
not really actually. you just need to provide enough spawning spaces and be content with 300 pork chop per hour, which is still quite a lot.
@TheRealWormbo
@TheRealWormbo 4 жыл бұрын
Well, build height for the nether is 255 on Java editon, so…
@racernatorde5318
@racernatorde5318 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheRealWormbo Build height in general. They just capped of the Nether. Probably to make it less heavy on the computers?
@alessandropolo7257
@alessandropolo7257 4 жыл бұрын
if mojang didn't intend for the players to access the nether roof, why did they make nether portals above y=127 link correctly again in 1.15?
@absolutenoncents6679
@absolutenoncents6679 4 жыл бұрын
I love how he put g-apples in the medium food section
@araminrain
@araminrain 3 жыл бұрын
Came to see hoglin farm but got a great education in saturation and hunger. Been playing for years and never really sat down to have it explained. Thanks!
@_Abjuranax_
@_Abjuranax_ 4 жыл бұрын
Hopefully, they will make the Nether Mushrooms renewable like they are in the Overworld. But there is at least one more Snapshot to add for the Bastions, not to mention pre-releases and successive versions of the update itself. Nothing is set in stone until 1.17 starts to roll out, and even that is no guarantee of future changes.
@TyZo
@TyZo 4 жыл бұрын
Isn't every farm at first?
@teadrinker-vu8ft
@teadrinker-vu8ft 4 жыл бұрын
yea
@GamingInVrac
@GamingInVrac 4 жыл бұрын
idk, the poisonous potato farm is not that op
@bigbadcivic2
@bigbadcivic2 4 жыл бұрын
Someone forgot the golem farms after the villager update...
@abdouaboud7490
@abdouaboud7490 4 жыл бұрын
Bat farm so op
@SuperGamer-yo7wd
@SuperGamer-yo7wd 4 жыл бұрын
ABDOU ABOUD ik you can practice aim
@CaelVK
@CaelVK 4 жыл бұрын
My man here makes a full perimeter for every farm but cant be bothered to eat as soon as he gets a bit hungry
@ilmango
@ilmango 4 жыл бұрын
it's not efficient. I'm german
@CaelVK
@CaelVK 4 жыл бұрын
Fair enough
@techvader2.065
@techvader2.065 4 жыл бұрын
Someday he will build a giant roboter that plays Minrcraft for him, so he does not has to eat manually and can build new perimeters on 3 PCs at the same time.(btw theoretically it would be the most efficient to stop noe building new farms and just... live)
@Dudik28
@Dudik28 4 жыл бұрын
I would love to see a food update. Everything comes to getting animals, breeding them and cooking their meat. It's the best and easiest good source. I would love to see pies, stews and other food sources to be buffed. Or even better, make so that more complicated food would restore more hunger than simple one
@Nathanael_Forlorn
@Nathanael_Forlorn 4 жыл бұрын
The automatic cow cooker serves me well for years now. Go past every now and then, collect a bunch of food and feed them. takes seconds and is tiny.
@fordalels
@fordalels Жыл бұрын
It may not be ethical, but it's definitely efficient!
@kulatoid
@kulatoid 4 жыл бұрын
11:52 theres diamond ore in his hotbar from placing the diamond ore in the cave lol
@CrimeCastInc.
@CrimeCastInc. 4 жыл бұрын
Lolololol
@user-ro1db3xv9r
@user-ro1db3xv9r 3 жыл бұрын
fail :D
@saturnine.
@saturnine. 4 жыл бұрын
I love the idea of changing their drops to crimson fungi. I think the fungi could have a larger role to play - maybe they could be (another redundant) food source similar in value to apples, and I also think they could be a cool potion ingredient, or maybe, more in the vain of the current shrooms, they could be used to craft different kinds of fermented spider eyes that have different effects on potions.
@zubmit700
@zubmit700 4 жыл бұрын
I got the carpet mod installed and MiniHUD. How do I get the mob stats as shown at 7:44?
@ifroad33
@ifroad33 4 жыл бұрын
IMO the ”overflow” if eating a porkchop when at 19 hunger should go to saturation. Then you would get much more out of food you eat!
@nightshadelenar
@nightshadelenar 3 жыл бұрын
True, however, it would have to work in the other way as well to make sense.
@winner5743
@winner5743 4 жыл бұрын
When ilmango questions a farms level of opness you know its op.
@floris5638
@floris5638 4 жыл бұрын
How high do you need to afk above the farm? And does this work in the newest sanapshot(20w13b)?
@Faux_Fox
@Faux_Fox 4 жыл бұрын
No matter how many times I hear your intro it still makes me bop my head :)
@evanyoung9714
@evanyoung9714 3 жыл бұрын
Keep in mind that if you have a source of emeralds, (this could be an iron farm and some toolsmiths, a gold farm and some clerics, or even a pumpkin/melon farm and some farmers,) you have a 2/3 chance to trade 1 emerald for 5 cooked porkchop with an un-cured butcher villager. This makes it possibly the best way to get food in the game, maybe even better than a hoglin farm for the effort put in, assuming we are talking about singleplayer. You also have a 100% chance to get 1 emerald for 3 gcarrots with a 1x cured villager. Opinions: The hoglin farm is a bit overpowered, but I don't really think it should be nerfed, because the point of hoglins was to be able to get food when living exclusively in the the nether. Instead of hoglin farms being nerfed, i think the whole food system should be reworked. The existing one is unintuitive (given the hidden saturation value), and has only 2 best foods. Perhaps they should speed up eating things like sweet berries and melon slices, like they did for kelp. Also, moving the nether to y256 would make it significantly more difficult than it already is to make gold farms. Mojang please don't do this.
@Krat4k
@Krat4k 4 жыл бұрын
And what about using saturation soup (the mysterious one) to regen yourself?
@MethodZzS
@MethodZzS 4 жыл бұрын
unstackable food is just worthless
@gymzaal4412
@gymzaal4412 4 жыл бұрын
Hard to make reliably and fills your inventory with bowls
@gerardmatthieu907
@gerardmatthieu907 Жыл бұрын
@@gymzaal4412 Actually it is really good for early game as you dont get your inventory filled up ( except if you collect junk items ) and give you extremely powerfull saturation , thus regen and is really easy to get in early game : you only need dandelion or blue flowers of swamps and mushrooms ( easy to get from dark forest or nether ) then just craft as mush as you want to be able to eat in a row , and leave a stack of each mushroom and flower in your inventory , to craft more as you eat the previous soups . I personnaly use these in early game to speedrun the enderdragon and the switch back to golden carrot once inventory get to be an issue .
@oodlynoodly9148
@oodlynoodly9148 4 жыл бұрын
There’s this client side mod i usually use (1.15 not 1.16) but it’s called classic bars and it lets you see saturation and also shows you how much food will give you. I think there’s another more popular mod that does similar stuff but idk if that’s been updated to 1.15
@sebaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
@sebaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa 4 жыл бұрын
Ilmango feels like my Health teacher, explaining me about heathy foods to eat.
@spicybaguette7706
@spicybaguette7706 4 жыл бұрын
In my opinion the whole food situation is completely unbalanced and broken. They need to fix it entirely
@Drew-yz7ih
@Drew-yz7ih 4 жыл бұрын
If you ever played with a mod that adds food groups, etc. to make each food meaningful by requiring you to eat all of them for a balanced diet... those mods ruin the simplicity of the game and are so anti-fun. I honestly liked minecraft more before the hunger system tbh. Back when food healed you, and you always naturally regen'd slowly. Eating food should just give more potion effects. Staple foods such as bread, meat, etc should just give varying levels of regen (from 0.1 to 0.5 of regeneration 1) with varying durations. And then other more niche food like cake and cookies could give speed buffs, rotten flesh gives nausea, etc. They should also stack with actual potion effects. So if some food gives haste 1, and your beacon gives haste 2, you get haste 3.
@ERN468.
@ERN468. 4 жыл бұрын
@@Drew-yz7ih They should just rename the current survival mode to something else and make a new game mode where surviving is an actual thing you need to worry about.
@gymzaal4412
@gymzaal4412 4 жыл бұрын
@@ERN468. survival isn't really survival it's more creative with limited recources.
@rcb2371
@rcb2371 4 жыл бұрын
@Drew while I agree with the food idea, stacking potion effects is difficult to implement in a way that isn’t broken; for example, if your beacon gives you haste 2 and you eat something that gives you haste, you would get haste 3. Then you could eat something else to get haste 4, then drink a haste 2 pot to get haste 6 (yes I know haste pots don’t exist rn), then... It quite quickly gets out of hand, especially with how the actual effect are calculated based on their level - Mojang would have to redo the entire balance of the potion system, and to make effect stacking balanced beacons would end up massively nerfed and almost not worth using - two or three cheap consumables would give you more of a buff then a max tier beacon would.
@ERN468.
@ERN468. 4 жыл бұрын
@@rcb2371 yeah all people would need is a few strength pots and they would be able to one-shot fully enchanted diamond armor players with their fists
@elkay6533
@elkay6533 4 жыл бұрын
Food is so pointless and easy to get in Minecraft now that it doesn’t matter if it’s overpowered or not
@sofar2218
@sofar2218 4 жыл бұрын
the only intro in youtube that i don't skip
@Schlynn
@Schlynn 3 жыл бұрын
The way you explain the mechanics 👌👌
@samuelpendon3197
@samuelpendon3197 4 жыл бұрын
11:58 Mango: “So we need three iron” Diamonds: “AM i A jOkE tO YoU?!”
@jackthisout9480
@jackthisout9480 4 жыл бұрын
Getting on top of the nether is game breaking. You get plenty of food everywhere, so I don't see that to be a problem.
@lachy8226
@lachy8226 3 жыл бұрын
Well I'm stuck there with netherite shit bc you can't build above bedrock, it exceeds the build height limit
@abhiram7821
@abhiram7821 4 жыл бұрын
I am gonna build this in world rn cuz making golden carrots is tedious. Thank u so much ilmango for the farm.
@andys11192
@andys11192 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Mango, just some information i found out, you can create a gold farm from zombified piglin if you build with nether_wart_block i already did it without any redstone, just turtle eggs to bait the mobs and then lava to redirect and connect multi layers of the farm.
@andys11192
@andys11192 4 жыл бұрын
you have to build it in the crimson biome... forgot to mention that
@jimoaooo3368
@jimoaooo3368 4 жыл бұрын
Are you guys living on KZfaq? 5 minutes 1162 views
@isakvormeland3943
@isakvormeland3943 4 жыл бұрын
you get an alert if you click on the bell besides the subribe button
@boggless2771
@boggless2771 4 жыл бұрын
Just happened to sit on the toilet at the right time.
@dareokoski8158
@dareokoski8158 4 жыл бұрын
yes
@valoaras9729
@valoaras9729 4 жыл бұрын
Yes
@cole7638
@cole7638 4 жыл бұрын
i mean you were there in a matter of 5 minutes soooo... you gotta include yourself
@0vercrafted
@0vercrafted 4 жыл бұрын
I think any farm made above the Nether ceiling is OP. We've banned use of the Nether ceiling on our server. If a farm must be built in the Nether then the time taken to clear/spawnproof an area below the ceiling is enough work for the reward of the farm's function.
@HawkUnleashed
@HawkUnleashed 4 жыл бұрын
That's personally just too much work to spawn proof nether. My whole view about this dont like it dont use it basically.
@royler8848
@royler8848 4 жыл бұрын
I really like the idea of hoglins dropping fungi when they die.
@pwnyxpress_306
@pwnyxpress_306 4 жыл бұрын
I think that instead of changing the way hoglins spawn, what they drop, or moving the nether ceiling to 256, it would make more sense to just change the biome on top of the nether so that you can't have crimson forest up there. Sub-biomes.
@lunchpin403
@lunchpin403 4 жыл бұрын
I think it'll definitely get patched in some way
@another_jt
@another_jt 4 жыл бұрын
Personally I feel like having the hoglins drop pork chops was a mistake, as it makes pigs almost entirely redundant, especially once a player gets to the nether. I would have preferred a food more in the range of cod in terms of hunger and saturation, but gave some additional benefit helpful to the nether, like a short term fire resistance.
@Graestra
@Graestra 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly I think it would be cool to buff the less useful food sources to be more competitive with steak/pork/gcarrots. It’s kinda boring always eating the same foods, so it would be nice to be able to eat things like bread and baked potatoes and stuff as well
@Chameleonred5
@Chameleonred5 4 жыл бұрын
Pigs are basically redundant anyways. Steaks are better for food, it's not hard to get things to breed other animals, and there is absolutely no reason at all to have pigs instead of literally any other animal. Any use you can think of for pigs? Other animals do it and better.
@Graestra
@Graestra 4 жыл бұрын
Chameleonred5 steaks and porkchops have the same values
@Chameleonred5
@Chameleonred5 4 жыл бұрын
@@Graestra _All_ of the same values? I looked this up years ago, so maybe I'm wrong, but I though steak had more saturation or something.
@Graestra
@Graestra 4 жыл бұрын
Chameleonred5 it showed in this video that they were the same value. I think they used to be different, but at some point became the same
@portalwalker_
@portalwalker_ 4 жыл бұрын
I always build myself a pumpkin, sugarcane and egg farm for pumpkin pies as a food source
@rileystokes7718
@rileystokes7718 4 жыл бұрын
I put cc on and it’s said like 10 different things for “nether” because of ilmango’s accent
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