I feel like this over indulgence in foam with all of these shoes is killing me (and my back). Give me a closer to 0 drop with stability without the 2” layer of foam and I’ll be a happy camper.

I got the guide 17s and they are great! Got only 12-15 miles in them as I got them only 2 weeks ago but so far they feel great! They are super light for my as a heavier runner. People say these aren’t great for speed work but I don’t have that issue! Love doing interval runs in them and no foot pain as I had on my hoka Clifton 9s!

Good overview. Thanks for setting aside some time to focus on stability shoes - something you don't get from a lot of other reviewers. I have always needed some support due to minor, but persistent knee issues. Stability shoes have helped me deal with my knee for many years of running. So far, I have managed to stay with a shoe that has some type of medial post. Most of my favorites have gone by the wayside. Plus, a lot of stability shoes are getting softer and softer, something that works against someone with biomehanical issues. Please do some future reviews of stability shoes and include a ranking system (less to most stable,etc.). That would be very helpful. Thanks again.

What about us people with flat feet? I have no arches. I have been running in Brooks gts for years and they don't seem to have as much stability in the past couple of years.

Great explanation. That thick plastic formerly used turned off a lot of customers...

Heather for the WIN!

Stability shoes don’t exist anymore it’s wack and this high cushion craz is terrible

What’s the difference between stability and support shoes?