I appreciate the insight.

Thank you. I was wondering about longevity. I'm also a carpenter

Kinda cool, I'm thinking of getting some hikoki straight from Japan, like the 36v...41v max triple hammer impact

Or just Metabo in Europe

​@@danielvoorhees9507The German version

Appreciate it man!

I have had good luck with the brand. I have had a mixture of the older Hitachi tools and some of the newer Metabo HPT and even a Hikoki model in there and they have all been great.

Thank you!

Thanks. I appreciate the feedback!

Thanks

Each of those brands has some tools that I really love and each one has some duds unfortunately. But I agree with you... Metabo HPT isn't perfect but they have a number of tools that really shine!

I almost bought the 36v recip saw, rear handle, battery, and charger for $230 at Toolbarn!

@@devonboyer626 In my opinion… the best deal of the year so far! Bought one to keep the circ saw and sell the rest… and a second one just to sell since it was such a good deal (getting them separately is $600). 😬

I have thought about that saw!

Nice score. I have the recip saw coming in the mail tomorrow and I am excited to try more of the lineup.

@@TinkerWithTools great recip, so much demo and fun!

Glad it was helpful. That buy save more is a good time to build the collection.

Nothing wrong with that

They have a lot of solid tools.

Thanks for watching.

Yeah, they could do with an expanded lineup but i also think they need a place where they get more visibility... which would hopefully increase sales. I don't necessarily love their entry level tools but the upper tier have all been excellent.

@@TinkerWithTools their entry level is better than DeWalt or Milwaukee or especially Makita entry level. Those are hot garbage. You want entry level, go Kobalt. Everything is Brushless atleast. Totally agree on visibility. They're much, much better than one back, dusty corner at Lowe's.

I get that. They are certainly more contractor or woodworker focused.

I agree that you can find some great deals on Metabo HPT.

I have the recip saw on order for an upcoming test and I hear similar good things about. I think the issue is just that they don’t have the same number of tools as some of the other brands. Plus the name change hurt some of their brand awareness.

"The big three" is like a recent America only thing. It's like Home Depot has taken over. It wasn't like that a few years ago. They're contractor grade, but they do make some fine woodworking tools, like the 7.25" miter saw. They make a complete line of nailers, cordless nailers, SDS drills, grinders, and concrete tools, and have been making them for ages. They even make a $2500 cordless rebar bender and cutter. The only one in the world. That makes them a professional grade brand.

@@histguy101 cool. 👍

, I use hitachi gear and Milwaukee ,well ,the one big bonus I find with hikoki(hpt) is the cord for the multi vault tools , I now can just carry one sds max drill /breaker and grinder ideal if it’s only a short job can use the battery or if it’s a longer job I just plug in and can run all day , leaving more space in my van, it’s super reliable and handles heaps of abuse, and alot easier to buy hear in nz , as Milwaukee is only sold in certain stores here, so can be hard to get ,

@@TinkerWithTools great channel I just discovered here! Subscribed! Awesome dude!

I think there are still tools they make sense for corded options. Sanders for me make a lot of sense as corded tools.

Yeah if you can jump on those deals you really can get set up nicely on their platform.

I have always been disappointed with the impact drivers from Bosch. Metabo HPT on the other hand had really impressed me. I have an upcoming video on the Japanese version of the new Bolt Impact

Much cheaper on batteries than Dewalt, I use the generic 36v 2.5/5.0 for most applications use the bigger 4/8ah batteries on circ saws, recip, and grinder, everything else including nailers gets the generics. Oh and the generic 36v 2.5ah battery was able to get through 3 railroad tie cuts with Sawzall. The generics are 55 a piece.

They have some great tools for sure. I just hope they keep it up !

That's my combo as well. MHPT 36/18. M12 & a few DW12 for the lighter, low access jobs.

Thanks for commenting. I have used both Hitachi tools with NiCad and LioN batteries and they have all worked great!

They have a really intriguing lineup. Some really great tools but then they don’t get a lot of publicity like you said.

Nice job. They are a great brand and I think with deals you can get, there is more value than a lot of people think. While they may not have the full line of tools that a Milwaukee or DeWalt might have, they have some great core stuff and have a few (like a 1/2" cordless router) that even the big names don't have.

My costco doesn't seem to carry anything besides the grey porter cable tools.

Thanks for the feedback. I honestly hadn’t heard anyone with anything negative to say about the tools yet. I had heard stuff about the batteries having some failures due to the multivolt. But it’s good to understand the whole story. The good and the bad

I agree that's a great comparison. outside the US, they have a lot more publicity than they do here.

Thanks!

I am with you on the first part. Even in Lowes where they are available for me they get bumped and moved around for more popular brands. But they do have tools that no other company is doing (1/2” Cordless Router for example). I think they are more slanted towards carpentry than some other brands are.

It's looks to be 1/4" and not 5/16". It might be a metric size but that is approximately what it is. In terms of it going all the way through, it's a metal housing that has a rubber cover on either side with threading in the middle. So yes, the hole goes all the way through. As for why they haven't discontinued it, see my comment on the other video. They don't always get rid of older models right away.

Couldn’t have said it better

I plan on getting the 40v at some point I have just been putting money elsewhere for the time being. I get it will be an improvement. I just wasn’t planning on Metabo HPT having such a strong showing.

Yeah I can’t blame you if they failed you in the past. My experience both with Hitachi and now Metabo HPT has been nothing but positive.

@@TinkerWithTools I had a Skil drill when I was really young and used it for a long time. Always had an obsession with tools. Got my first Hitachi drill in Highschool and I was very disappointed in it. No power and short run time. All Brushed drills just seemed to be like that. I’ve tried several brands in the past few years and they all have come a long way since that Skil drill I had. I invested into Milwaukee heavily at this point and for the sake of being on 1 battery platform I think I’ll be sticking with them. Unless someone comes along and really blows everyone out of the water with performance and size.

@@TinkerWithTools I also see you have several m12 tools…love that they have such a large offering in their smaller tools. Great for people who do maintenance/service work like me

I had an old Hitachi brushed drill that worked well for a while but it was pretty gutless.

M12 is a great line. I’m glad DEWALT is now doing a good 12 volt line as well so it pushes Milwaukee to get even better.

Thanks for the comment. Helpful to know. I love the drill. Really a overlooked gem.

@@TinkerWithTools another good news for you my friend as it appears like Hikoki is prepping to release their next gen of tools. Check their japanese website for the new tools.

@@ProxyFinal while I don’t have an issue with importing I wonder if the Metabo HPT will release at the same time.

@@TinkerWithTools all I know they are starting to do reviews over at Japan and doing some ads. They did just release the new gen 2 of one of their traditional impact drivers WH18DEX over here in the states and they are just releasing reviews in Japan about this particular impact driver.

They make some great tools. Unfortunately they often get overshadowed by other brands in stores here where I live.

Thanks!

No. You certainly won’t. Between that and Home Depot not carrying the XGT In store it’s hard to get too tempted to buy it.

I keep of list of stuff I need to get. It’s on their along with the power detect.

I agree with you with the caveat that you stick to their top tier of tools. I have used a few of the lower tiers and I don’t feel like they are equal to the lower tiers in DEWALT for example. But in that upper tier they can and do compete. In response to the second part about improving their lineup I agree there too. Unlike the other brands striving to be a “pro” brand they legitimately have pro tools that most other brands don’t have. The nailers and routers especially.

@@TinkerWithTools I suppose you are right, I don't possess and am not familiar with any of their low end tier tools, to be honest. As far as I have heard - they are known to have been pretty reliable for their prices, compared to others, but that is all about it, neither very technological nor powerful. But we have a couple of brushless 18V Hitachi combo-drill drivers, the 18V triple-hammer impact and the 18V multi-tool and are very pleased with them, they have done tons of work and not a single issue whatsoever. Recently I bought the 36V 165mm circular saw, the 36V Recip Saw and the 36V 1/2" Router - and I am very impressed by them so far. And it is not just the power, the quality and the precision of the craftsmanship is second to none. Very nice reviews by the way! :)

I think that is the fault of the company themselves. The name change makes such little sense to me. The tools are great but the marketing and name choice is what I struggle with.

@@TinkerWithTools I agree, but I think it was a decision made by Hikoki.

I’ll check and get some measurements to get back to you. I don’t think I have that large of hands but it works fine for me.

@@TinkerWithTools I’m really impressed with the Metabo and Flex hammer drills and impact drivers. I just think Flex might be kinda bulky for me.

I don't currently have an 8ah so we will have to make do with the 6 at some point in the future. While I think it will improve, it doesn't make the Metabo HPT any less impressive.

@@TinkerWithTools no it doesn't and that was not my point this matabo is for its price honestly the best value I agree 100% but my quarrel was in testing sometimes the results get a bit under rated when not using the correct batteries in high draw tools its kinda like putting a 2ah on a saw its gonna work but you will get 30%to 50% better results with high draw tools I dont mean to me rude man I absolutely love your channel but you know as well as I do if you would have pot the 6.0 on the Milwaukee and did the same test with the makita you will not need to drop to speed 1 on the Milwaukee its gearing is perfect for roughout no other saw compares with how compact and how much roughout holes in second gear this 2804-20 i have a video in a log lmao it sucks but you can clearly see Milwaukee win bottom line is 2804-20 has to have a 6.0 or greater for true power..... thanks for even responding I appreciate all you do and for giving my personal friend Brandon a shout out on his channel IMPACT TOOL NATION GUYS CHECK HIM OUT 👏 🙌 AWESOME GUY GRAET CONTENT AS WELL AS TINKER WITH TOOLS MUCH RESPECT BRO AMD ANOTHER TO {SHOUTOUTS TO ROBERT WITH TOOLS AND TACTICS AND ROBERT HAHAHA WITH TOOLS WITH soAlz}

I don't believe so but I will test it out and get back to you.

@@TinkerWithTools thanks and please let me know when you try

I stand corrected. It will charge it! I did a short about it if you want to check it out.

which corded drill are you rocking?

They have a small line compared to some of the bigger brands but they have brought several tools to market ahead of other major tool brands which is intriguing to me. They have the half inch router than runs on their 36v line that is really impressive. They aren't without fault by any means. While running a single platform has benefits, I think there are great tools to be found in many lines and this drill quickly rose up my ranking.

You speak the truth, this obsession with Flex seems absurd to many

I think the obsession from flex is just how much they are currently marketing it here, and the fact that their tools truly are powerful. I have never felt that they are superior in refinement but in power they are right up there with the big american brands like MIlwaukee and Dewalt. Metabo HPT doesn't get a lot of love and their marketing and branding choices haven't helped them. The switch from Hitachi to Metabo HPT when there was already Metabo out there wasn't executed all that well, but the tools do speak for themselves. I also think they innovate in areas that other brands don't yet, like their 1/2" router. That thing is impressive.

@@TinkerWithTools MIlwaukee hasnt been an American company for 20 years though. Regarding Flex the power comes from mainly the pouch batterys. without them they get beaten by a lot of brands in power. The stacked lithium might be the future and yes Flex has an advantage there. The poor line up makes me think its just a guinea pig company for Chervon. And the name Chervon its just to confuse Americans thinking it is Chevron and and not another Chinese company

That’s a nice added feature.

I'll run the 6 on the Milwaukee at some point. For the sake of that video, I did like batteries.

When I can get my hands on one i will. It’s on my list.