Arsenal: Keep or dump? 🤔 Do Smith Rowe & Fabio Vieira have Arsenal futures? | ESPN FC

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25 күн бұрын

ESPN FC’s Gab Marcotti and Mark Ogden assess the current Arsenal squad after back-to-back second-place finishes in the Premier League and decide which players they should keep, and who needs to be moved on.
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@dtrane86
@dtrane86 24 күн бұрын
Tell me you didn’t watch Gabriel this season without telling me you didn’t watch Gabriel this season Mark. He had 4 yellow cards all year and has scored more goals in the epl since he joined arsenal than any other defender. No question one of the best in the league
@agr9432
@agr9432 24 күн бұрын
Yea sure. Half the fouls he committed didn’t get cards like they should’ve. Don’t mention that handball vs Liverpool too.
@SizzTheTruth
@SizzTheTruth 23 күн бұрын
@@agr9432 Hes literally been the best CB in the league season. Much better than Saliba for Arsenal.
@taffydimples
@taffydimples 23 күн бұрын
@@agr9432 Very biased take
@Iyke-sp5ny
@Iyke-sp5ny 23 күн бұрын
​@@agr9432 they gave the goal for the hand ball against pool... And it was unintentional.. you have to throw that scenario in there. What do you want, a 6games suspension for the hand ball
@mrkeithmorgan1
@mrkeithmorgan1 23 күн бұрын
Lazy analysis on Gabriel. 9 yellow cards over 2 seasons and no red cards. His discipline has been exemplary. Best CB last season.
@philbourne548
@philbourne548 23 күн бұрын
Ogdens clearly doesn’t watch Arsenal much, or bother to checks stats. Gabriel was arguably the best and most reliable centre back in the league last season. Ogden says ‘there’s clearly a good player in there, but he’s reckless’ Its silly, uniformed nonsense.
@stlgooners1313
@stlgooners1313 23 күн бұрын
I dont think that's what he's implying. If I heard correctly, I would think he's saying that of the 2 defender , Gabriel seems more prone to mistake, but I don't think that's enough reason to see him as expendable
@artetaDagoat
@artetaDagoat 23 күн бұрын
Yip. That was Gabriel 22/23. Big Gabi 23/24 was the best in the league
@lebowski6061
@lebowski6061 23 күн бұрын
@@stlgooners1313 Saliba was actually more prone to mistakes this season
@longtime-firsttime9202
@longtime-firsttime9202 23 күн бұрын
Thank you.
@nkgashafaithsetiba457
@nkgashafaithsetiba457 15 күн бұрын
Clearly the guy didn't watch Gabriel, arguably one of the 3 best CB in the epl
@richardcahill1234
@richardcahill1234 23 күн бұрын
Ogden is the worst. He's always wrong.
@user-gp6cc8jj6d
@user-gp6cc8jj6d 23 күн бұрын
Weird take on Raya, guy won the golden glove and you're nitpicking, but when Alisson costs Liverpool the game at the Emirates you ignore that i guess 😅
@AdamPort41
@AdamPort41 24 күн бұрын
ESR was MotM in the Luton game he “wasn’t great” in
@M4tt888_
@M4tt888_ 23 күн бұрын
He seems clueless that guy. Also his advice what Areenal need "a Harry Kane type striker, but not Harry Kane". Well done genius 👏 You could say the same for almost every club im the world bar man city and Bayern. Also he can't even name a player he is thinking of that they could go an buy. I don't think he knows much about football outside of Man utd
@avataryun
@avataryun 23 күн бұрын
The disrespect to Gabriel, arguably had a better season than Saliba! My friend clearly didn't watch Arsenal this season
@softdoc631
@softdoc631 23 күн бұрын
Surprised, they talked about Lokonga in the same breath Partey and Jorgihno in terms of quality😂 and then said ESR wasn't good enough at Luton when he was literally the MOTM😂
@garrincha2813
@garrincha2813 22 күн бұрын
Is this some kind of ESR hate bait going on?
@user-gy1pu3gq3d
@user-gy1pu3gq3d 23 күн бұрын
Partey is part of Arsenal's best 11 when he's healthy. If Arsenal decide that they need to move on because he can't stay healthy, then I understand, but Ogden is talking like Partey stinks.
@chekadan
@chekadan 23 күн бұрын
I dont know who that other guy is but boy what's his issue lol. Gabi has been phenomenal this season with just 4 yellows. Making Partey to be a player that needs to be levelled up because he doesnt have the quality is baffling. Mention his injuries, of course, but his ability is undoubtedly amazing.
@yusufe9465
@yusufe9465 23 күн бұрын
I was actually looking forward to this and they put this rubbish out😭
@gregbeales7945
@gregbeales7945 23 күн бұрын
Good show. Would recommend that mark ogden watched some of the Arsenal games next season before doing the next episode as he clearly hadn’t watched any of this season’s games
@brownmoney27
@brownmoney27 23 күн бұрын
Espn aren't able to get good pundits at all, some of the worst by a long stretch, but that works to their benefit as fans get raging about moronic opinions and the interaction (comments) they get as a result are what they need
@sergioortiz262
@sergioortiz262 24 күн бұрын
Gab with the world record for longest surviving stroke ever congrats
@palatialslumlord4938
@palatialslumlord4938 23 күн бұрын
Mark Ogden only knows things about Man Utd, absolutely clueless about every thing else
@jackdouglas5753
@jackdouglas5753 23 күн бұрын
Keown was useless in the invincible season
@danhouw7972
@danhouw7972 23 күн бұрын
They’d get a better interview speaking to a well informed fan of the team in question rather than a football journalist. These guys get paid to just spout the first thing that comes into their head about a team or player.
@TheKingSkillsBW67
@TheKingSkillsBW67 22 күн бұрын
Finally someone who’s saying the best thing I have ever heard on ESPN about a Kai Havertz! Yes! If he played there as no9 more, he’ll score more goals. Our problem, like I’ve said before, is when we played Rice at no6, that’s when we dropped ALL the points we dropped! He’s not yet able to realize that in this Arteta team, the most critical role is the no6 for making the entire team click! When the no6 clicks, we can destroy ANY team. We can score any amount of goals and that’s why we matched City with our goals this season, even with their Halaand and Pep’s experience and longevity with this team. No6 is our biggest weakness right now with Partey going, and his injuries even if he stays. We need a top Partey like no6 more than a striker. Watch this space and learn how Arteta’s thinking about football.
@cyclopskane331
@cyclopskane331 3 күн бұрын
Viktor Gyokeres in for £73m, Martin Zubimendi, £55m, Turkey international Left back for £23m. Out Ramsdale, Nketiah, Partey, Smith Rowe
@mohammadfahad1280
@mohammadfahad1280 23 күн бұрын
Agree with Gab....Central Midfeilder before a striker should be the priority
@EchozTV
@EchozTV 23 күн бұрын
I quickly remembered why ESPN FC always annoys the heck out of me. Straight garbage takes and rambling
@user-gp6cc8jj6d
@user-gp6cc8jj6d 23 күн бұрын
Does the guy in the glasses actually watch Arsenal? Esr got motm in that game v Luton, he was involved in both goals 😂
@oluwaseyisubair4426
@oluwaseyisubair4426 23 күн бұрын
Arsenal should sell all unused players and get players that can be use.
@jourdanjackson5365
@jourdanjackson5365 24 күн бұрын
"DUMP" Why use such a disparaging term. I expect better from journalists and ESPN. This isn't a fan channel or the gutter that is Twitter. You are speaking about human beings, not objects or stocks and bonds. Do better! Set a better standard!
@Antonio-hb8rd
@Antonio-hb8rd 23 күн бұрын
Gay
@Nikz0091
@Nikz0091 24 күн бұрын
Great footballing show! Appreciate it lads
@innercircle341
@innercircle341 23 күн бұрын
Squad depth is a huge issue. There are only 14 or so truly trusted players. Too many dead benchwarmers. Nketiah Reiss Vieira ESR etc. More than tweaks needed
@manchesterisblue1023
@manchesterisblue1023 24 күн бұрын
i would say KEEP. they look very promising. I would suggest giving them 10 year contracts and Arteta as well!
@TheKh65
@TheKh65 23 күн бұрын
What a weirdo
@tatendacharleszindoga7542
@tatendacharleszindoga7542 23 күн бұрын
Quality over quantity because surely Arteta likes a small squad so that makes more sense
@mainmansentertainment
@mainmansentertainment 24 күн бұрын
Totally agree about Lokonga.
@honestarsenalfan7038
@honestarsenalfan7038 19 күн бұрын
Ramsdale not being good with his feet is just ludicrous!
@willwilliamg6651
@willwilliamg6651 22 күн бұрын
Martin Keown made 10 league appearances for the Invincibles. He only started three starts and needed a few cameos at the end of the season to get enough appearances to get a winner's medal. Toure and Campbell played almost all of the league matches that sense. So Mark Ogden is right in a sense. Gabriel isn't the player that Keown was at that time because he actually played on the pitch last season. And I loved the Gabriel is reckless and could learn from that version of Keown. That was the same season where Keown gave away the penalty to Van Nistelrooy at Old Trafford that was missed and then kicked off the whole post-match brawl by confronting Van Nistelrooy after the match. But Gabriel is the reckless player in Odgen's mind. What a low-information muppet. You can do better ESPN FC.
@ulfanfinneriksen4643
@ulfanfinneriksen4643 24 күн бұрын
Dump is harsh worthing. As a fan I think they ought to be sold.
@jasonleon1976
@jasonleon1976 23 күн бұрын
Arsenal are at a point now where they need to improve the quality of the squad fillers. The likes of Eddie, Nelson, Elneny etc. For me Smith-rowe is to much of a good player to be letting go. People forget he was our top scorer only 3 years ago. Plenty of other players need to go before he is even in the conversation.
@user-dx1xd1xy5v
@user-dx1xd1xy5v 23 күн бұрын
This guy didn’t watch Gab this season
@GlamLife-qz9rj
@GlamLife-qz9rj 24 күн бұрын
arsenal sell players for very low prices a change is fit 40 mil for ramsdale
@garrincha2813
@garrincha2813 23 күн бұрын
I....I don't understand this love affair with Havertz. People must really be astute in their observation, much more than I, to see good potential in Havertz.
@saadmalik5352
@saadmalik5352 23 күн бұрын
Ogden just says the most generic stuff I swear. Still analysing players by their 2021 versions lol
@Mike__Oxlong
@Mike__Oxlong 23 күн бұрын
Much as I love ESR I think his 10 goals in the 21-22 season may have been a flash in the pan.
@palatialslumlord4938
@palatialslumlord4938 23 күн бұрын
A reasonable Arsenal fan?
@artetaDagoat
@artetaDagoat 23 күн бұрын
Imo he's potentially better than Odegaard. Just needs fitness sorted. Glass half full
@Mike__Oxlong
@Mike__Oxlong 23 күн бұрын
@artetaDagoat Better than Odegaard? Are you freaking high mate?
@artetaDagoat
@artetaDagoat 23 күн бұрын
@@Mike__Oxlong I said potentially.
@yusufe9465
@yusufe9465 23 күн бұрын
Weird statement cause there’s nothing to back this up. He’s produced his best season the season he played the most. Since then injuries have plagued him and when he finally became healthy it was in the latter half of a title challenging season so didn’t get much opportunities. Yet the chances generated in front of goal were very considerable. He didn’t finish his chances but the fact that he got those chances in the limited playing time is a testament to his quality. What points could you bring forward to him being a flash in the pan?
@TheKaradras
@TheKaradras 22 күн бұрын
Raya is not a GK for a top club - ok, maybe he is good with his feet (i didnt see it making that much of a difference in any game) all the while making a lot of costly mistakes. I still think Aaron is the better player and i am a bit sad for that change (yes i know he also made mistakes but he has more promise in my eyes)
@tymkoc3293
@tymkoc3293 23 күн бұрын
Gabriel is Top 10 center half in the league in unbiased opinion of someone who watches most matches most matchdays of the EPL. If he's inferior to Saliba it's not by much. Ogden is a smart pundit but he got that one wrong. Selling Smith Rowe, Nketiah and few other players on the fringes would bring in maybe 50 mil and then you add to that some of the bonus for finishing 2nd in EPL and the UCL money and you get that top target this summer. Although I wouldn't sell ESR but try and train 3-2-4-1 of Pep's City in 22-23 treble season.
@levelofsnipes7378
@levelofsnipes7378 23 күн бұрын
Let both go, they won’t get minutes. We need to stop keeping these players until they’re 25 and their career is half gone
@rodrecknyathi3154
@rodrecknyathi3154 22 күн бұрын
Why are Arsenal not pushing for a swap deal Guimaraes for Vieira, add some cash to sweeten it.
@BalkanTraveler
@BalkanTraveler 23 күн бұрын
Exits elnenny, nketiah, rees nelson, lokanga, tavares, zinchenko, ramsdale, incoming, steele, osimhen, bruno, kudus or šesko
@user-lp5ip6mh7v
@user-lp5ip6mh7v 23 күн бұрын
Xhaka + Partey should be lifers for Arsenal. Sad to hear that he should be moved on - heart + soul player No loyalty by gunners
@Arazorblade
@Arazorblade 23 күн бұрын
This was painful to watch. Never seen such misleading analysis devoid of facts. It’s clear that these two have never seen any Arsenal game and just watch highlights.
@Narendra_Laden
@Narendra_Laden 23 күн бұрын
Should keep partey as a back up player along with jorghino.... If arsenal sell partey and get a replacement, its just replacing him and no squad dept... I dont think lokonga is gonna make it at the Emirates
@jahute2121
@jahute2121 17 күн бұрын
Yes they do
@Deadpool1322
@Deadpool1322 23 күн бұрын
Almost checked out with the Gabriel comment
@phillipmukama6796
@phillipmukama6796 23 күн бұрын
Keep smith rowe but i fear for Fabio viera
@TheeChronicle
@TheeChronicle 23 күн бұрын
ESR has to stay. Way too talented. 23 years old. And not on high wages. We need depth
@dutch5469
@dutch5469 22 күн бұрын
Deep breath. Hear me out. Saka in a Messi like position. Allowed to roam and exploit
@ralfschultz5145
@ralfschultz5145 23 күн бұрын
Lonkonga, Pepe, Cedric, Viera, Tavares, Runarsson, Marqinios. Edu and/or Arteta's magic signings. To those of you who claim that they both always know what they are doing!!
@swedishgooner86
@swedishgooner86 23 күн бұрын
Lokonga 17 mil pepe wasn't edu it was Raul sanelli. Viera is the only one that cost money really get your face straight before commenting
@ralfschultz5145
@ralfschultz5145 23 күн бұрын
@@swedishgooner86 my point has nothing to do with money
@artetaDagoat
@artetaDagoat 23 күн бұрын
Every manager gets more wrong the right. Look at Wenger's record. Look at SAFs it's a redundant argument that you wish to make
@leonjohnson583
@leonjohnson583 16 күн бұрын
Esm he his a good player need time on the field ❤❤❤❤❤
@paulanywayo4972
@paulanywayo4972 24 күн бұрын
Alex Runarsson🤷
@nonder92
@nonder92 23 күн бұрын
I usually like Gab but he literally HATES everyone else’s opinion and it’s annoying… he’s like the kid that wasn’t good at football in school so he decided to constantly read it, critique it and watch it instead 😑
@bernieone1
@bernieone1 21 күн бұрын
I was waiting for the large shepards hook to come in and take the lad woth the glasses away. Talk about just showing up with no homework done. Useless!!!
@f3diyoung
@f3diyoung 23 күн бұрын
Mark doesn’t watch football, he only watches highlights.
@lucaswilliams2835
@lucaswilliams2835 23 күн бұрын
it's genuinely hilarious how this American guy is on ESPN and knows absolutely nothing about football. 🤣🤣
@maninthemirror3838
@maninthemirror3838 23 күн бұрын
Which one is the American?
@nonder92
@nonder92 23 күн бұрын
@@maninthemirror3838 probably the one with the American accent, genius…
@maninthemirror3838
@maninthemirror3838 23 күн бұрын
@@nonder92 None of them are
@maninthemirror3838
@maninthemirror3838 23 күн бұрын
@@nonder92 Genius....
@nonder92
@nonder92 23 күн бұрын
@@maninthemirror3838 then where is gab from? Because his American accent sounds good!
@kevonbedford4078
@kevonbedford4078 22 күн бұрын
This guys ball knowledge is so bad. Where does ESPN find these guys? 😅
@shameelu1620
@shameelu1620 23 күн бұрын
Ogden is disgrace
@thierryhenry674
@thierryhenry674 24 күн бұрын
Loan them to Brighton.
@garrincha2813
@garrincha2813 23 күн бұрын
It's a sad day when Arsenal is questioning whether or not to keep Emile Smith Rowe. He is the best Arsenal player after Odegaard. He was injured and need to play to get back his form! Havertz was allowed to play every day...wandering around aimlessly most of the time, until the ball found him and he tapped it in the goal. It would be tragic if they again, become giddy-headed for a second time, and move out another of their most talented player, like they did Eze, and then live to regret it.
@yusufe9465
@yusufe9465 23 күн бұрын
It’s unfortunate but I think it’s best for him to move on. I don’t think he can achieve what he’s truly capable unlesss he’s played week in and week out. Arsenal might not have the time to do that anymore if he doesn’t hit the ground running, due to the current iteration of the club
@garrincha2813
@garrincha2813 22 күн бұрын
But Havertz play EVERY day. He can’t walk in one of Smith Rowe’s boot. Arteta need to play him back to fitness and form, cause he was out injured. It’s not like his form just dipped.
@yusufe9465
@yusufe9465 22 күн бұрын
@@garrincha2813 I don’t really understand what point you are making. Havertz proved the mangers decision to play him was correct with the returns he produced but even that aside. Havertz played most of his time in the midfield in the first half of the season and Smith Rowe was injured for majority of that half, his main position is a striker with LM being secondary. Lastly Havertz provides more of a defensive cover in the LM role than smith Rowe, all these reasons are what played a factor this season. Havertz is not what is stopping Smith Rowe from making the team, this is clear because coming off the bench, when we’re looking for a goal, Arteta is not bringing on Havertz into midfield, smith Rowe would be and has been more prioritised in that area, if a midfielder is coming off the bench.
@garrincha2813
@garrincha2813 22 күн бұрын
You don’t know ESR!
@treytoomuch
@treytoomuch 23 күн бұрын
don't know why every is saying his Gabi comments were off the mark....he's been very good for us but still has the odd mistake in him....
@eithanash80
@eithanash80 22 күн бұрын
Get Ogden of ESPN! Dude is just weird
@14loosecannon
@14loosecannon 23 күн бұрын
Maybe Ogden should stick to talking about United? Some real howlers here, couldn't be more wrong on Raya, Gabriel, ESR and Havertz.
@milesdalessandro1857
@milesdalessandro1857 21 күн бұрын
shocking takes in this one lol.
@anthonydavid6974
@anthonydavid6974 23 күн бұрын
Smith row most go his not good enough period.
@bunkiebunk
@bunkiebunk 23 күн бұрын
Pump or dump?
@mohamedabdi4603
@mohamedabdi4603 22 күн бұрын
Fabio viera nketiah kiwior tavares tierney Smith-row ramsdale should never play Arsenal again Fabio viera transfer was scam
@eL--RaL
@eL--RaL 24 күн бұрын
Fabio Viera better at his position than Smith Column
@GIBBO4182
@GIBBO4182 24 күн бұрын
Is this ALL you do with your life?
@oma_gooner
@oma_gooner 24 күн бұрын
keep esr loan vieira
@onlythetruth596
@onlythetruth596 21 күн бұрын
What a load of waffle! 🤣😂
@stanthemafia
@stanthemafia 24 күн бұрын
1:09 are these guys are journos?
@user-sp8ge5qj6c
@user-sp8ge5qj6c 24 күн бұрын
they're 🤡🤡
@CowellTen
@CowellTen 23 күн бұрын
Gab is clearly far more of a pro. This Ogden joker a stealth Spurs fan? Obviously all opinions are subjective by definition and we shouldn't dismiss anyones...but this guys are absolute undiluted garbage.
@joshfredlang
@joshfredlang 23 күн бұрын
You realize how good Gab and Jules are when Ogden's on the show
@Narendra_Laden
@Narendra_Laden 23 күн бұрын
Stupid duo!! Talking if or not to sell trossard is mental 😅
@paulanywayo4972
@paulanywayo4972 24 күн бұрын
I agree! I think Saliba needs to be paired with an upgrade. As much Gabriel Magalhaēs has been good, he's is prone to mistakes.
@610vegas
@610vegas 23 күн бұрын
Saliba has made more mistakes leading to goals than Gabriel this season. But good effort at making a comment.
@philbourne548
@philbourne548 23 күн бұрын
That’s such a stupid comment. Gabriel has been the most reliable CB in the premier league this season.
@Biggfromthegrouphome
@Biggfromthegrouphome 23 күн бұрын
His comments on Gabriel are dated. He was incredible this year and for stretches better than Saliba.
@whatthehead
@whatthehead 23 күн бұрын
Sell Vieria and Keep ESR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@Westfamilyoz
@Westfamilyoz 23 күн бұрын
Average content
@rickydawson7388
@rickydawson7388 23 күн бұрын
Sell Kiwior or Zinchenko, and keep and start Tierney. Sell Havertz, Vieira, Lokonga. Keep Partey, Smith-Rowe. Undecided on Jorginho, but buy a quality young central defensive midfielder (like Caicedo, Mainoo, or Bissouma). Loan Marquinos. Play Nelson and Nketiah more or sell them. Buy a Giroud-like center-forward.
@user-gp6cc8jj6d
@user-gp6cc8jj6d 23 күн бұрын
Lucky you aren't doing Edu's job 🤣
@BalkanTraveler
@BalkanTraveler 23 күн бұрын
They just extended jorginho lol so he's staying 100 percent
@teeone1066
@teeone1066 23 күн бұрын
Tierney in 2024 god damm
@edzico1908
@edzico1908 23 күн бұрын
We don't need DMs like Caicedo and Bisouma
@user94133
@user94133 18 күн бұрын
Dumb
@bareknuckletalk8691
@bareknuckletalk8691 24 күн бұрын
Lakonga?? I’m better than him and I’m in my 40’s and have never played professionally. He’s already come out and said ARSENAL have told him he can leave.
@mondemdluli9
@mondemdluli9 23 күн бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
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