Art of War ranks every Ork datasheet in the NEW CODEX!

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Join Nick and Jack as they go through every unit in the Ork book and rank them from lowly git to Big Boss in the new Ork codex for Warhammer 40k
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@Speeds_Gaming_Corner
@Speeds_Gaming_Corner Ай бұрын
0:00 Sponsors 1:00 Intro 3:19 Big Mek 6:37 Beastboss 8:48 Beast Snagga Boyz 10:37 Warbikers 13:37 Big 'Ed Bossbunka 14:52 Battlewagon 17:40 Trukk 19:00 Dakkajet 21:24 Wurrboy 23:20 Boyz 25:45 Zodgrod Wortsnagga 29:48 Beastboss on Lobster 32:40 Deff Dread 35:30 Big Mek w/ Shokk Attakk 37:51 Hunta Rig 39:47 Kill Rig 42:18 Burna Boyz 43:36 Burna Bomba 46:02 Kustom Boosta Blasta 48:31 Shokkjump Dragsta 49:29 Rukkatruck Squiggbuggy 52:10 Megatrakk Scrapjet 53:29 Boomdakka Snazzwagon 54:43 Painboss 57:01 Painboy 58:50 Stormboyz 59:42 Lootas 1:01:27 Gretchin 1:03:07 Megaboss 1:04:52 Big Mek in Mega Armor 1:06:30 Mek Gunz 1:09:32 Deffkoptas 1:12:25 Ghazgull Thraka 1:14:06 Snikrot 1:15:54 Squigghog Boyz 1:18:12 Flash Gitz 1:20:00 Warboss 1:21:23 Mek 1:23:05 Mozrog Skragbad 1:24:52 Kommandos 1:26:02 Tankbustas 1:27:28 Killakans 1:30:22 Deffkilla Wartrike 1:32:45 Weirdboy 1:34:13 Morkanaut 1:39:20 Gorkanaut 1:41:24 Stompa 1:46:07 Nobz 1:47:20 Moar bad planes. 1:49:05 Meganobz 1:52:18 Thoughts
@gormmiolneer335
@gormmiolneer335 Ай бұрын
Gargantuan squig?
@swabilius
@swabilius Ай бұрын
Wrong, I am going to run 12 buggies, you shall see...ALL OF YOU WILL SEE
@ChillWithLags
@ChillWithLags Ай бұрын
SPEED WAAAAGH FTW!
@sadlyanuxtakustan8950
@sadlyanuxtakustan8950 Ай бұрын
Between 70-80 points for t7 9w it has potential. And biker with dakkastorm put out in rapid fire range roughly 20 twinlinked 5 -1 1 hits in shooting.
@johnathankonandreas6074
@johnathankonandreas6074 Ай бұрын
Same, worst comes to worst we still da fastest.
@sergeantbagel2508
@sergeantbagel2508 Ай бұрын
I pray to Mork and gork that they reduce the points of the stampa to 700 or lower
@kevinbonneau124
@kevinbonneau124 Ай бұрын
nah i pray to comensense that gw nerf the meganobz feal no pain 2battle round of feal no pain wtf are they thinking
@ruick78
@ruick78 Ай бұрын
Yea stompa is so cool but it hard want fit into list due point cost
@JoeSmith-oy3hk
@JoeSmith-oy3hk Ай бұрын
You mean Gork and mork.
@Silverdragon83X
@Silverdragon83X 24 күн бұрын
I hope, that they lower the points, because the Stompa is actually very cool and in Dread Mob for 2 CP and a Mek you can do up to about 400 (!!!) damage in one round, I think that's why it is so hard to balance in points! In this combo it shoots down everything it wants, but good players would not give it good targets and then shoot it themself...
@soffren
@soffren 22 күн бұрын
I don't really want the Stompa to be competitive. I just want it to be a bit more flavorful.
@peterbennett4663
@peterbennett4663 Ай бұрын
Finished painting my Flash Gitz and Badruk just in time then? 🤣 Thanks for the insights guys.
@bensemusx
@bensemusx Ай бұрын
Mek guns are grot vehicles so they don’t need a mek to benefit from the dread waaagh.
@cornisgreat197
@cornisgreat197 Ай бұрын
Theyre probably going to get the grot vehicle keyword, which will work
@return4887
@return4887 Ай бұрын
@@cornisgreat197 they didnt
@cornisgreat197
@cornisgreat197 Ай бұрын
@@return4887 no, they did. It wouldn't have made sense not to give them the keyword
@return4887
@return4887 Ай бұрын
@@cornisgreat197 oops they did i was FOrgot
@Dagglestone
@Dagglestone Ай бұрын
Don’t know why the wagon can take the wrecking ball when it doesn’t come in the kit. Same with the trukk taking the claw. I thought they were trying to stop that kinda stuff
@The80sWolf_
@The80sWolf_ Ай бұрын
It confuses me so much
@Dagglestone
@Dagglestone Ай бұрын
@@The80sWolf_ it would be alright if they sold a ball and claw vehicle upgrade kit or something. That would make too much sense
@stevecatpatrick8056
@stevecatpatrick8056 Ай бұрын
I think the thing about bikes is they are always going to be ablative wounds for a deffkilla, and you are going to advance them within nine, shoot, and then charge especially on the waaagh. Only seems worth doing in speed freaks though
@pigzy9807
@pigzy9807 Ай бұрын
I wonder if there is a bullyboz style that does a turn 1 charge threat with bikes (nob bikes ?) Storm boyz. Just to pin your opponent in while nobz stage. Turn 2 yor nobz charge into their DZ
@stevecatpatrick8056
@stevecatpatrick8056 Ай бұрын
@@pigzy9807 That is a very good point. Put a war boss on bike leading the nobs on bike You could have a pretty gnarly but expensive vehicle hit squad in bully boys.
@ju20asf
@ju20asf Ай бұрын
Be interesting to see points! Id like to see a bully Boyz list with 3x8 snagga riders and ex beastboss on Saur trying to t1 charges/blocking and then a second t2 of waaagh with the rest of your army crashing through
@EpicDoom80
@EpicDoom80 Ай бұрын
The kustom boosta blasta has assault, pistol, and the grenades keyword. Bump it up!
@untitled528
@untitled528 Ай бұрын
It just doesn't do any damage
@keenanmccarty9925
@keenanmccarty9925 Ай бұрын
I mean it only has pistol on a single s3 shot. You’re going to be using grenade on your deffkoptas anyways, and everything has assault in Kult of Speed. It’s a bad unit even compared to the other kars competing with it for 75 points
@valdabad
@valdabad Ай бұрын
@@keenanmccarty9925 But it has pistol so it's eligable to shoot while in combat, so can do secondaries while engaged.
@EpicDoom80
@EpicDoom80 Ай бұрын
@valdabad exactly. It can advance and do actions and do actions in melee. It also had the shittiest melee before 10th came around, now it's decent like all the others. And cherry on top, just gained the grenades keyword. It's the most improved, has a good 36" range debuff, not bad for 75 points
@SneezyIsGaming
@SneezyIsGaming Ай бұрын
Man I like my scout 9 zod and 20 gretchin with a mile long move and a charge to tie up units and possibly survive.
@maximusest40kwarfare73
@maximusest40kwarfare73 Ай бұрын
doing a tier list based on how much room is left in the mid tier or trading ( lol) isnt the way haha that aside nice video, orks codex is fun, exciting and competitive. Its what every codex needs and its refreshing, Shame this edition isnt at all about bikes ands flyers, and pyskers, and i admire how they attempted to make all weapon options similar power level but clearly it doesn't work. thanks for the upload. Good job guys hope you are all well. ORKS LOOKING AWESOME.
@nastybadger
@nastybadger Ай бұрын
Awesome video. Thanks for that 😊
@austinpalmer898
@austinpalmer898 Ай бұрын
The bikes need a rule reroll 1s shooting when you are in rapid fire range. Or +1 to hit when in rapid fire range.
@tedhodge4830
@tedhodge4830 Ай бұрын
Burna boyz are trash in combat....they have AP2, yeah, but a choppa boy has AP1 and an extra attack that hits on 3's instead of 4's....they do less than an ork boy with a choppa in close combat. Boyz also get a free nob and can be joined by punchy characters that actually have decent combat profiles.
@mycroftholmes2992
@mycroftholmes2992 Ай бұрын
I am interested in seeing where the Ork Forgeworld units land...Grot Tanks, Warboss on Bike, Grot Mega-Tanks, etc
@shadowtheif1015
@shadowtheif1015 Ай бұрын
Gonna say now grot tanks are straight up better for DMG in dread mob. The -1 damage strat is best value on a meka dread. Meka dread themselves spread +1 to hit buffs and have base terrifying melee. Squigoth is the only real model without a home.
@ju20asf
@ju20asf Ай бұрын
They don't exist, most gave gone to legends now.😢
@Gomorra1989
@Gomorra1989 Ай бұрын
Feels a bit like since the release of beastsnagga stuff they kinda forgot about the speed stuff, wich makes me sad, as thats the thing I like the kost in orks.
@MazariPL
@MazariPL 15 күн бұрын
Mozrog does have a Warboss keyword :P
@danielhammer619
@danielhammer619 Ай бұрын
Im not sure why anyone would use the new Big Mek. If i want Lootas to get Mek Keyword i could just throw a small 45 point Mek in there. They dont need his reroll 1s to hit, because they already have that on their own. I would also not use him with Mek Gunz when the Big Mek with Shokk attack gun gives the same reroll 1s to hit to Mek Gunz, and has a much better shooting profile. Also its not difficult to combo a Dakkajet with a Mek. The Mek gives +1 to hit at the end of the movement phase, and the Dakkajet arrives at the end of the Movement phase. So by that wording i believe you can land the plane first, then heal it to give +1 to hit. The Dakkajet absolutely isnt a Lowly git if you play Kult of Speed. Dont get me wrong he isnt amazing, but you can hit on 4s and all 4s to hit will be Sustained hits, and you pay 1CP to give it Lethal Hits. So now every 4s to hit is sustained and Lethal. Then the sustained that needs to wound are now also Twin Linked. This isnt a bad model in Kult of Speed. Its actually quite decent.
@questery
@questery Ай бұрын
I use my mek gunz all the time. Admittedly my friends and I don't run the crazy levels of terrain tournies do, but we do run a lot and the mek gunz are commonly my best performing damage unit.
@beanspud88
@beanspud88 Ай бұрын
Remember kmk is now nerfed.. personally going to rock Bubblechukkas.. as firing bubbles is never not fun.
@tomashogberg8514
@tomashogberg8514 Ай бұрын
Kmk being lower ap than any other Kustom gun feels like a typo to me, but I’ve still always run bubblechukkas and they’re surprisingly good 😅 smasha guns definitely looks the best pick atm though imo.
@joeladkins1046
@joeladkins1046 Ай бұрын
Big Mek in mega armor is good in Mek/grot detachment to give meganobz Mek keyword
@jonathanhaynes9914
@jonathanhaynes9914 Ай бұрын
Thanks Jack and Nick.
@joshuadeal927
@joshuadeal927 Ай бұрын
Where is that thumbnail from? I love the scheme and want to make my orks that way!
@ArtofWar40k
@ArtofWar40k Ай бұрын
Mohawk Miniatures painted the Ork model!
@dzasays5516
@dzasays5516 Ай бұрын
I've been doing research on 40k to see what I'd like my 1st Army to be. Bc of codex cancer my 1st choice is lame AF, my 2nd choice is going to be REALLY tough to learn to play however Orks are my 3rd choice and I'm quite pleased with this codex (strictly from a non player pov). A goofy fun Orks army may get me to paint up some minis finally!
@buttemountain
@buttemountain Ай бұрын
I didn’t think I would enjoy painting but painting Orks has become my favorite part of the hobby. Can’t say you’ll enjoy it but it should be relatively painless compared to other factions. And if you think your paint job sucks, you just say, “Well an Ork painted that, so of course it looks bad.”
@seanbertrand5289
@seanbertrand5289 Ай бұрын
@dzasays5516 Who’s your second?
@dzasays5516
@dzasays5516 Ай бұрын
@@seanbertrand5289 Drukhari
@BigMurph1313
@BigMurph1313 Ай бұрын
US Ork Players: Stop. Pronouncing. The. G. In. WAAAAAAAAGH.
@mekrot1
@mekrot1 Ай бұрын
Not putting Kanz in biggest boss is wild. I have 18 of them and they’re incredibly scary in the dread mob detachment and you don’t really even need to use Strats on them half the time.
@Swordsmansmith87
@Swordsmansmith87 Ай бұрын
They didn't consider unit strength in the detachment they're designed to be played in, which is why this video is invalid.
@mekrot1
@mekrot1 Ай бұрын
@@Swordsmansmith87 Which is wild because that's how the game works in 10th with detachments focusing on specific units now rather than the full army.
@pixl3l
@pixl3l Ай бұрын
Great stuff. Not sure about rokkits on dreads though, as you need to buff them to hit on 4+. I ran a dread mob in 9th with 9 dreads and I say skorchas if any shooty stuff on dreads, i ran 3 of them with 2 klaws and 2 skorchas and it makes small stuff not want to charge them so much cause of overwatch, and they can shoot while in combat with the skorchas. original text before edit: "they can be shot in combat (rokkits cant as they are blast)." ) I am so looking forward to put all the kanz on the table and might need to get another gorkanaut :P might even get me a stompa just to try it out.
@Jerseyangel89
@Jerseyangel89 Ай бұрын
Dreads are a vehicle so they can fire skorchas in combat. Theyre great to rapid ingress too! Index dreads I've been using 2 skorchas and 2 klaws to just disrupt the enemies plans
@pixl3l
@pixl3l Ай бұрын
Indeed. I see now I worded my self poorly, what I ment was ofc that they can shoot the skorchas while in combat, as you point out :)
@xenodraigshrike5052
@xenodraigshrike5052 Ай бұрын
The big mek in mega armor is not terrible to lead MANZ. Having a 4++ to shooting and negating things before they goto the waggghhh fnp is big. If you want or need a unit that can hold something in the front line and not just smash it and go away then a big mek with them will let you do that.
@Kurze0
@Kurze0 Ай бұрын
Nick slipped. Stompa 810 points in the MFM
@brothertobias
@brothertobias Ай бұрын
I always love the Ork reviews. I love Orks so much.
@austinpalmer898
@austinpalmer898 Ай бұрын
Ima bring stompa mork gork 25 flash gitz 2 battle wagons
@RPMs
@RPMs 11 күн бұрын
Please, please, please fix your audio. There's such bad echos, it's hard to understand at times. Otherwise, it's fantastic information as always!!!
@joeladkins1046
@joeladkins1046 Ай бұрын
I think y'all are really sleeping on the Bikeboyz.
@liquidmetal9015
@liquidmetal9015 Ай бұрын
At least with my tablets speakers the audio is bad enough that I can't watch this, very sibalent and harsh.
@SlipKoRn4life
@SlipKoRn4life Ай бұрын
Sad day for my Evil Sunz. Pretty much my entire army is in the bottom two tiers.
@tomashogberg8514
@tomashogberg8514 Ай бұрын
Kommandos are BRILLIANT for preventing move blocking, in particular for bulky walkers and bigger units. Would be auto include if a bit cheaper, still good though! Codex looks strong as heck, but is disappointing in being so selective in the inclusion of fun stuff. Absolutely ZERO love for the kunnin’ and sneaky stuff, and no love for dakka outside of walkers - ie shoota boyz or gun wagons still won’t exist this edition either, didn’t fix tankbustas so why even keep them in the codex at this point, etc.
@tomashogberg8514
@tomashogberg8514 Ай бұрын
And they ruined Killa Kans ability to the point where they just won’t ever opt to roll on that table when shooting. Previous one was vastly superior to this.
@brianhutton2370
@brianhutton2370 Ай бұрын
I love that Mega Nobs are better at being custodes then Custodes now. Neat.
@Makarislethal
@Makarislethal Ай бұрын
Love custodians tears You didn't see Orks crying so hard when you guys had free "win the fight phase" with no effort or skill.. Now you have to learn to play. Enjoy
@Grambos2000
@Grambos2000 Ай бұрын
Were Custodes overtuned? Yes, they were especially brutal for melee armies. That doesn’t mean we should celebrate them becoming less enjoyable to play, it just means something else strong will take their place and there will be one fewer faction you see played. That means less variety, less people playing, and just an overall less healthy state of the game. We should be lifting each other up, not kicking each other down
@brianhutton2370
@brianhutton2370 Ай бұрын
@@Grambos2000 bro I main custodes. That was sarcasm and annoyance
@brianhutton2370
@brianhutton2370 Ай бұрын
@@Makarislethal Orks were still picking up tournaments, so we weren't winning the fight phase automatically, at high and mid tables we had a 50% wr. And we don't have the tools to "play" - custodes are durable, and mess stuff up if they get their mits on them. Take away durability... and it's a 25 model army that dies very very easily. Nothing to "Learn" there. Make Orks 50 pts a boy, and then say "learn to play" bro. that's not how the army works. And lastly, lets say we did "auto win the fight phase" which we dind't, but whatever. Other armies "win the shooting phase" , or win the movement phase. No one wins all the phases. We now don't win any of them.
@2germ2
@2germ2 Ай бұрын
is Jack's audio too loud, and the other guy's too low for anyone else?
@se7enspac3s
@se7enspac3s Ай бұрын
Can you just not fire the shitty guns on the big ork mechs?
@Swordsmansmith87
@Swordsmansmith87 Ай бұрын
You didnt have current points and didnt consider the strength of units in the detachment they're designed to be played in. Pretty much invalidates this video, DOA.
@richardfoster1288
@richardfoster1288 Ай бұрын
I prefer to watch videos made by people that actually care about orks.... Know the names of models that have been out for a decade and know what orks actually do....
@Addycomedy2420
@Addycomedy2420 Ай бұрын
Lol do you guys even play orks?
@ginfizz5898
@ginfizz5898 Ай бұрын
Pretty clearly not, got the Battlewagon loadout wrong, Nick wants the Trukk to go to 70-75 while an Impulsor is 85pts for a vastly better datasheet? Insane. Mek Gunz don't need a Mek to get the Dread Waaagh keyword since they are Grot Vehicles unless that's been removed.
@kevinbonneau124
@kevinbonneau124 Ай бұрын
@@ginfizz5898 the real problem is meganobz no one care about wagon meganobz are broken they are s+++++ in bullyboys
@MrOstheboss
@MrOstheboss Ай бұрын
Nick… no. Jack… prob more than youz 😂
@austinbekken7315
@austinbekken7315 Ай бұрын
Yikes, call an Ork player in next time.
@JayzusKhrist
@JayzusKhrist Ай бұрын
Why yikes?
@Axemsmash
@Axemsmash Ай бұрын
?
@colouredIncognito
@colouredIncognito Ай бұрын
Love how you pretend you know stuff better than they do😂😂
@musicalcharge
@musicalcharge Ай бұрын
Jack...is...an ork player. One of the best in the world. Better than you for sure.
@ju20asf
@ju20asf Ай бұрын
​@@musicalchargesimp
@kevinbonneau124
@kevinbonneau124 Ай бұрын
ork are so broken for 2battle round they have a +4 feal no pain on their on meganobz wtf nice going gw maybe next time you right a codex do it in a trafic lane
@johnj.spurgin7037
@johnj.spurgin7037 Ай бұрын
Double Waaagh is pretty insane, yeah. Good premise for a detachment, but IDK.
@user-bu9dr3bn4b
@user-bu9dr3bn4b Ай бұрын
Its been a sweet long ride but i can’t support GW anymore after they destroyed 40k lore to please their overlords Blackrock and Vanguard. What next space marine woman.
@johnj.spurgin7037
@johnj.spurgin7037 Ай бұрын
That's the opinion of many. For all the change itself is minor, the disdainful treatment of previous lore and the outright tokenist support it had while ALSO ignoring the existing female factions in the SoS and SoB shows exactly what matters to them.
@ImperiumofRat
@ImperiumofRat Ай бұрын
Quite a bit of doomsaying around this, it wasn't handled well but frankly, doesn't change much overall, I really think people are blowing this out of proportion, the primaris was a WAAAAY bigger lore mistake than this and it worked out... okay
@johnj.spurgin7037
@johnj.spurgin7037 Ай бұрын
@@ImperiumofRat it's a combination of pattern recognition from other franchises, the unified ideology of intersectionality or "wokeness" that is literally pushed by Blackrock and Vanguard in a publically stated goal of FORCING societal change, and the evident disdain for the franchise itself in the people who made this change as is obvious by the way it was done and how they treated criticism of it. Primaris was given lore justifications and story, bad though it may have been. The necrons lore expansion was an immense increase in the faction's complexity and required effort. This was NONE of those things. This was blatant tokenkism for ideological purposes. Give an inch and they'll take a mile. You think they won't continue to push for FSM now that it's been displayed that 6 editions of lore mean nothing? The whole POINT is to turn the franchise into a propaganda factory. Inclusivity at all costs. Ultimately the BEST possible thing to happen is for people like me to be wrong. However, NOT raising a stink and pushing back if people like me are CORRECT means the doom of the franchise. Look at all the other franchises that have already had this happen to them.
@ImperiumofRat
@ImperiumofRat Ай бұрын
@johnj.spurgin7037 a lot to break down here, so I'll try to address the overall theme, and first 1 clarification, tokenism isn't adding another group of people to the franchise in this way, if it was one single addition and never brought up again (yet to be seen) yeah, it is but women being added to the canon of custodes doesn't mean they being tokenised inherently, for the forcing societal change, yes, societal changed is forced, every push in a political and social direction has been made by pushing and forcing their wants, literally all of them. Finally about the subject, I have a simple question, was being all men a fundamental aspect of the custodes, I don't think so personally and I've heard no good reasons why it would be, adding wlfemale custodes to me should be seen as a "eh, not much actually changes here and it might open some new narrative options" I think this is mainly a knee-jerk reaction to change and people are ironically making their political opinion a reason why these changes aren't wanted Tldr: eh, nothing much changes and I think it's wildly being blown out of proportion
@johnj.spurgin7037
@johnj.spurgin7037 Ай бұрын
@@ImperiumofRat No, not ALL societal change is forced. Societal change can and does happen slowly overtime as generations develop different views from their predecessors. Part of the reason forcing it is bad is because the slow progression of a gradual shift allows for social darwinism to weed out social changes that are inherently flawed or would lead to negative outcomes. All of history is a series of grand, organic social evolution as the good is kept and nature naturally allows the bad to die off. Accelerating that process does not leave time for potentially diaastrous elements to be winnowed out. Having read about the ideology in question MY opinion of intersectionality is determined, but the dangers of pushing a change unnaturally should be pretty obvious. As for custodes being all male, the issue is that the pre-existing lore that the customerbase loved was discarded and treated with disdain. This was not a constructive retcon like changing the necrons from soulless Egyptian space terminators, it was a negative retcon that unmade decades of established lore for the sake of apparently nothing more than "inclusivity." The Talons of the Emperor have a dedicated female element in the Sisters of Silence who have long needed a range and lore expansion, but instead of making that constructive change EVERYONE would have appreciated, they discarded existing canon and didn't even have the decency to add a single unit or datasheet. And that is why I call it tokenism. They destroyed decades of lore and added NOTHING, while at the same time releasing the worst index I have ever seen since I joined the game. If they add more female custodes stuff in future it would no longer be tokenism, but until then it is.
@fatarchon
@fatarchon Ай бұрын
Yeah man, those MANZ are looking nutso good - especially if they stay around their current points. Completely agree on GW did good on their detachments & making certain units/playstyles shine depending on how you want to run them
@BUY_YOUTUB_VIEWS_286
@BUY_YOUTUB_VIEWS_286 Ай бұрын
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