As The Blade Turns: Kamila Valieva Doping Aftermath, International Skating Union Changes & Ukraine

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On the latest edition of 'As The Blade Turns,' I discuss the aftermath of the Kamila Valieva doping scandal, proposed changes at the International Skating Union congress, and look at the many ties between Russian Olympic sports, business and the invasion of Ukraine. I also discuss the proposal by the Olympic Committees of Norway and Denmark to ban athletes from Russia and Belarus from participating in international sporting events and the resolution by the International Olympic Committee that events not be held in either country.
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@airgelaal 2 жыл бұрын

I can't listen now, because I must listen news to be able to react fast, but I'm, as Ukrainian, vey thankful to all skating community. I hope, that very soon I'll listen this podcast and not the sound of explosions :(((

@mathilde139 2 жыл бұрын

I am so sorry this is happening.

@sarahvogelsang7555 2 жыл бұрын

My prayers go out to you, your family/friends, and country. Watching this on tv breaks my heart for every Ukrainian. Please stay as safe as you can and I pray that this all ends soon!

@evamasters5028 2 жыл бұрын

I have been praying for Ukraine and just admire the courage and patriotism of your people.

@jlee4039 2 жыл бұрын

God bless and protect Ukraine. I am praying for your safety and for your country. Slava Ukraini 🇺🇦❤️

@jcny11 2 жыл бұрын

Best of luck to you for your safety. Be confident that the world is watching.

@JackAShepherd 2 жыл бұрын

Shout out to Zhenya Medvedeva, who has been in the international news for being one of the most high-profile Russian celebrities to speak out against the war. She didn't specifically criticize Putin, but she risks losing her shows/commentator gig for any dissent at all. And of course she recently spoke out extensively in support of Timothy LeDuc and gender nonconformity. We don't deserve her ❤️

@jamiejoonks 2 жыл бұрын

@Mike V yes, it’s super risky for them to speak out in any way. They have a lot more to lose than any of us in North America realize

@nl887 2 жыл бұрын

@Mike V yep if they speak out they have a risk of losing alot of things expecially as its putin and celebs/athletes especially.

@mideygar3766 2 жыл бұрын

Also Plushenko’s wife spoke out. Great full for these ladies💙💛

@marycoyne1889 2 жыл бұрын

Evegenia my girl.

@ddjr6673 2 жыл бұрын

Wow - I did not know this. This is actually a very courageous thing to do. In the UK when soccer players talk about even seemingly non-controversial things (feeding poor families) they get vilified. The fact that someone as high profile as Zhenya and Plushenko’s wife speaks out, is really impressive.

@stephaniesiclari 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you, Dave, for your investigative journalism. You put in so much work and you’re appreciated!

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

🙏🙏

@Nina11J 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you Dave for your coverage of this you did a better job than most media

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

🙏

@rajs7876 2 жыл бұрын

Mainstream media is totally missing the forest for the trees here

@tracienieto2722 2 жыл бұрын

Honestly all media

@msmo2060 2 жыл бұрын

Praying for all of Ukraine… our thoughts & prayers are with you

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

🙏🙏

@kczar1962 2 жыл бұрын

This was an amazing analysis of not only Russian sports and doping but your overview of the war and politics intertwined with sports is award worthy reporting

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

🙏

@TheReneex 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you Dave. When the scandal broke out, very few Russian skating fan pages were eager to disclose what was really ensuing. We are fortunate enough to obtain such detailed info from you. Both good and bad. Even now, I'm suspicious of Russian skaters, most especially, those underage girls trained under Eteri Tutberidze. The entire scandal left a bad taste in our mouths and i just hope that the future of ladies figure skating will continue producing exceptional skaters. Who are not just executing difficult quads but will entertain fans as well for the sake of the field.

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

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@ringdoorbell3223 2 жыл бұрын

Sharon (I agree with you Renee, I am very suspicious of all Russian child/ladies figure skaters who are doing those multiple revolution jumps), just because they tested clean was only because they couldn't detect the substances. But ban Russian figure skaters through at least the next Olympics though. I feel badly for their athletes.

@ringdoorbell3223 2 жыл бұрын

Sharon (Actually I meant to say, ALL RUSSIAN ATHLETES)

@nl887 2 жыл бұрын

@@ringdoorbell3223 I dont think you realise taking drugs does not make you do those jumps even figure skaters have said this multiple countries dope so we should be suspicious of all athletes

@Dan-uf2vh 2 жыл бұрын

@@TheSkatingLesson Kamila was treated unjustly and wrongly disqualified in a futile attempt to punish another unjust system. The best outcome for everyone was that Kamila ended up in the 4th place, but after careful consideration and back-and-forth opinions, I realize that she neither "broke" nor was told to fail. What happened is that when she stepped on the ice for the final, she had been deprived of sleep, emotionally drained, with no medal awaiting her as she would compromise the ceremony and get confirmed positive any way (I assume that will happen). So she started the skate and at the first sign of trouble, considering her mates' exquisite performances, she must have thought that she mustn't make the podium. The absolute worst is if she ruined the ceremony while only taking 3rd place. So she let go. Which is exactly what Eteri said, "why did you let go?". Well, as it turned out, this was the absolute best outcome for Kamila's popularity and for the ceremony to commence. She also got FAR more from this whole fiasco than any gold medal could have brought her, if she had not been detected. Within the context it was an immense injustice but overall the outcome was the best. She is unlikely to end up in the scrap heap within two years, unless she willingly retires. My gripe with this thing is that even though Kamila's consolation prize in popularity far outweighs the gold medal, the underlying issues seems will remain unresolved, especially with the war in Ukraine cutting Russia off. Kamila worked hard under the existing systems. She shouldn't have been harassed by WADA and IOC, was effectively no more "doped" than the rest of the Russian machine and should have competed fairly, while at the same time making sure that the child abuse system that produces expendable high performance discardable toys gets stopped NOW, before a new generation gets the same treatment.

@pgk3052 2 жыл бұрын

Excellent reporting on an unfathomable situation, Dave. Many Russians are not for this war and it is heartbreaking for them as well as the brave people of Ukraine. I don't like to think of children taking heart medication for the possibility of winning sporting events. What are the long-term effects? All of this is so sad. Thank you for your hard work and dedication during these tumultuous times. Rachel Maddow would be impressed. Slava Ukraini! 🇺🇦 ✌ ☮ 🕊

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

🙏

@nl887 2 жыл бұрын

Exactly majority Russians dont want this war but sadly it's all down to putin and his stupid self made this decision

@pgk3052 2 жыл бұрын

@@nl887 💔 🙏

@Sophia-dnbetyt 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for reporting Dave ❤❤❤ Honestly these last few days I've been so angry that I can't even look at anything Russian figure skating-related. As a Georgian with Russian tanks 30kms away from my city, these are scary times and watching the news is like getting a preview of our future. Also, given the current restrictions being put on the aviation industry in Russia I doubt that they'll be able to travel to world's that easily. I have nothing against the children in this sport but Russia as a nation has to be banned from participating (like they have been already in other sports/events).

@nikitashaitan9984 2 жыл бұрын

As russian i’m sorry for what our government (which we did not even choose) have done and i do believe athletes from our country might be banned until better government comes.

@jlee4039 2 жыл бұрын

I hope you are inspired by the courage and patriotism of your Slavic brothers and sisters in Ukraine and protest this brutal and unnecessary war. Societal change cannot happen unless each individual takes a stand, and together form a movement. ❤️

@NG-ue4th 2 жыл бұрын

And I'm so sorry for all of you having to go through this when it's quite clear nobody really wants this...this seems like such a tragic affair all around. Here's hoping for an end to this madness and a better future. Sigh...

@nikitashaitan9984 2 жыл бұрын

@@jlee4039 nuh thanks What Ukraine had was surely not inspiring at all. And we still have a ton of people backing current government. Definitely not happening yet. Perhaps help from abroad would be nice

@Q_from_Star_Trek 2 жыл бұрын

@@nikitashaitan9984 how could we help from outside since the internal apparatus is so repressive, if you guys revolt, of course the whole world would help, everybody realized what a monster adolf kgb putin is...please explain to me why Alexei Navalny returned to Russia after he was poisoned, and nearly escaped? Wouldn't have been better if he stayed in exile and organized the opposition to adolf puting from there? Garry Kasparov is another example, he's out of russia...what good does it make for Alexei to be in prison, and as I understood he's on trial for whatever fake reasons and he'll get 15 more years?

@Sonia94537 2 жыл бұрын

@@nikitashaitan9984 a revolution coming from the top or the bottom of Russian society is the only way, your people need to rebel against the current government, any intervention from abroad would start a nuclear war.

@paolocastellano2771 2 жыл бұрын

Dave, this episode goes waaay beyond figure skating... Very impressive! I need to watch it a few more times to absorb all the information you so so carefully researched and so eloquently presented! Again great job!

@Essylte 2 жыл бұрын

I appreciate your steadfast, consistent updates on the issues concerning Valieva, Russian doping, and the war between Ukraine and Russia, Dave! You do a better job than those at NBC. It's disturbing that IOC and ISU are taking so long to grow some balls and ban Russia from competitions; more that Russian athletes who competed at the Olympics may be more than just suspect in taking PEDs. Yes, guilt by association isn't kind, but indeed, as you said it here, why would the coaches of the ROC figure skating team be scared that one of their athletes tested postiive - that it was indeed a 15 year old who was said to be the one identified? There is only one 15 year old figure skating athlete. The other coaches must have been so worried about Valieva, then, since she's the darling of Russia, their Chosen One, since she would be the one to win them gold, unlike the other skaters in other categories (never mind that T/M were actual contenders, and that Trusova and Scherbakova had as much chance as she did to bring home glory). The connections you've made in the Russian government and with the politics and the athletes who won gold before being part of the Kremlin now...makes me wonder how much figure skating veterans and analysts in places like the US have done their homework. Johnny loves the Russian athletes, and Tara was part of the team where they praised the Russian women, but now...what have they known before, if they knew at all, and did NBC shut them up? This was a great episode. Can't wait for Worlds next month!

@sheridansheridan8946 2 жыл бұрын

This is fantastic, and your work on this is so thorough, and tops anything I've seen published in the media. Please keep it up, and for the record, I prefer these episodes in your real voice as Dave Lease. It's much easier to digest the information and much more professional.

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

🙏

@19katherine1213 2 жыл бұрын

Wow you went full Sherlock Holmes on this one! This is what the mainstream media needs to focus more on

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

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@daokopiano8721 2 жыл бұрын

As a reaction to current affairs, the ISU should react accordingly (just like several other sport organizations have; eg the soccer players, skiers, f1 drivers etc).

@Q_from_Star_Trek 2 жыл бұрын

Correct, Jan Dijkema is the president of ISU.

@marywillametz6225 2 жыл бұрын

The ISU should have given the gold medal to USA

@kerryperryman3025 2 жыл бұрын

Agree 100%.

@marywillametz6225 2 жыл бұрын

Any other skater from any other country would have been suspended and not allo

@marywillametz6225 2 жыл бұрын

Allowed to compete. The ISU must be intimidated by Russia

@optimalrefundable 2 жыл бұрын

Dave, I'm so impressed with your work on this project and series. True investigative journalism. Just saying...can we expect a book one day? 👀

@jlee4039 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for continuing your thorough and insightful reporting on this issue. To be honest, I turned to TSL this afternoon because I couldn’t stop crying at what’s been happening at Ukraine, and I was so grateful to find a new video; this channel has been a refuge during these difficult times. ❤️

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

🙏🙏

@dkadkins6545 2 жыл бұрын

The first thing I thought when Russia invaded Ukraine was that it would be more difficult for investigators to look into these doping charges. There are Russians who live in Ukraine, that was a pre-war issue, so Navka may be Ukrainian or a child of Russian nationals who lived in Ukraine.

@etherealtb6021 2 жыл бұрын

Wow. That was a lot of dots you connected fir us, Dave! I think raising the age to 17 is more than window dressing, as if you can't compete at Seniors or win the Olympics until 17, you won't be able to train them so hard so young or they won't make it to 17.

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

🙏

@marycoyne1889 2 жыл бұрын

How does this stack up to other Olympic sports. I feel like this should be an IOC rule across the board, not a sport by sport decision.

@etherealtb6021 2 жыл бұрын

@@marycoyne1889 💯!

@dannyc6166 2 жыл бұрын

Russia really needs to feel the pain & basically get banned from international sports for a few years. Eteri hid behind Kamila instead of taking the heat herself. All the coaches abandoned her. Danny G. Totally creeps on Anna. I think there’s a lot going on at a Sambo 70 that would probably turn everyone’s stomach. There’s a saying in Russia something like” if they don’t catch you, you’re not a thief” it’s a cultural thing. Putin needs to go too!!!🇺🇦

@nl887 2 жыл бұрын

We should wait for the investigation because theres no actual proof it was eteri. Obviously they are probably going to investigate her etc I think they should be banned until the investigation is over and this invasion is over

@Jeremy-wp4yh 2 жыл бұрын

It's not just the doping. The judging Panel is also corrupt. And it's sad when skaters who do their best don't get any recognition

@Dan-uf2vh 2 жыл бұрын

Kamila was treated unjustly and wrongly disqualified in a futile attempt to punish another unjust system. The best outcome for everyone was that Kamila ended up in the 4th place, but after careful consideration and back-and-forth opinions, I realize that she neither "broke" nor was told to fail. What happened is that when she stepped on the ice for the final, she had been deprived of sleep, emotionally drained, with no medal awaiting her as she would compromise the ceremony and get confirmed positive any way (I assume that will happen). So she started the skate and at the first sign of trouble, considering her mates' exquisite performances, she must have thought that she mustn't make the podium. The absolute worst is if she ruined the ceremony while only taking 3rd place. So she let go. Which is exactly what Eteri said, "why did you let go?". Well, as it turned out, this was the absolute best outcome for Kamila's popularity and for the ceremony to commence. She also got FAR more from this whole fiasco than any gold medal could have brought her, if she had not been detected. Within the context it was an immense injustice but overall the outcome was the best. She is unlikely to end up in the scrap heap within two years, unless she willingly retires. My gripe with this thing is that even though Kamila's consolation prize in popularity far outweighs the gold medal, the underlying issues seems will remain unresolved, especially with the war in Ukraine cutting Russia off. Kamila worked hard under the existing systems. She shouldn't have been harassed by WADA and IOC, was effectively no more "doped" than the rest of the Russian machine and should have competed fairly, while at the same time making sure that the child abuse system that produces expendable high performance discardable toys gets stopped NOW, before a new generation gets the same treatment.

@Jeremy-wp4yh 2 жыл бұрын

@@Dan-uf2vh the athletes hardwork is irrelevant when cheating and corruption was involved.

@Dan-uf2vh 2 жыл бұрын

@@Jeremy-wp4yh In essence, they timed her doping badly, unlike the usual. Instead of a reliable doping testing system with definitive conclusions we got pure extrapolation. If she had a one time trimetazedine it would not have impacted performance and might have been an accident. Hair testing needs to be implemented for the future thereby disabling some of the abuse that Eteri & doc can pull off. You statement that "athletes hardwork is irrelevant when cheating and corruption was involved" fits very nicely though I don't think the way you intended.

@Jeremy-wp4yh 2 жыл бұрын

@@Dan-uf2vh do you think another athletes hardwork doesn't matter when someone is doping or the judges are deliberately ignoring flutz floop and excessive pre-rotation? Who thinks about the clean athletes?

@Dan-uf2vh 2 жыл бұрын

@@Jeremy-wp4yh with the implied reliability of the testing I can conclude that for the 24 detected cases at the Olympics another few hundred went through undetected. How do the facts match with a clean competition? This is a joke of a system. Nor should anyone be able to extrapolate on Kamila's single test into an entire training season, that would be pure speculation and in my book applicable extension to all the Russian team and to others as well.

@Jumblebelle 2 жыл бұрын

You said that Trusova’s Order "For Merit to the Fatherland" is a step lower than the Order of Friendship, but Wikipedia says that it’s the second highest state decoration, with the Order of Friendship being way down the list. Also there are 5 different classes and people usually have to work their way up the classes AFTER receiving lower state decorations, but Trusova went straight to a first class award. “It is awarded for outstanding contributions to the state associated with the development of Russian statehood, advances in labour, peace, friendship and cooperation between nations, or for significant contributions to the defence of the Fatherland,” and Trusova is the only athlete listed on Wikipedia’s incomplete list of recipients. ?????????

@lilyseglin7840 2 жыл бұрын

As you know I’ve been a TSL supporter and watcher from the very beginning and I think this might be the best and most important video you’ve ever done.

@megseggz 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you Dave, I hope you get a proper break soon after all the work you've put in!

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

🙏🙏

@cheemengsee490 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you Dave for sharing your encyclopaedic research on the historical web of Russia's murky doping history. It is frustrating to see that Russia is unlikely to endeavour to compete clean. Fed on a narrative of victimhood, doping athletes like Valieva will be celebrated as martyrs and testament to the West's jealousy and machinations against Russian dominance in the sport.

@scarletbegonias8991 2 жыл бұрын

I'm only five mins in and I'm pretty damn impressed with the level of investigation you've given. I LOVE details, where usually many ppl want a short video or post, but I love the deep dive! Thank you!

@MsTeach3 2 жыл бұрын

Dave, you are the best. I’ve been waiting for this and thinking about your hard work all week. Thanks so much. ❤️

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

🙏

@MizQue 2 жыл бұрын

Junior world championships are not the same as the Olympic games. If a person isn't old enough to be held accountable, they are too young to compete in the Olympics.

@dmp7252 2 жыл бұрын

Hope they cashed those checks quickly, because the Russian ruble is tanking. Re: Tatiana Navka and Kremlin Press Secretary, Dimitry Peskov, have a daughter who posted on social media "NO to the War." So you can imagine how uncomfortable that made things. Very much the same situation when Kelly Ann Conway's daughter was posting messages on social media that were critical of Donald Trump. Sometimes, the kids of these corrupt people end up spilling the beans.

@kristi4113 2 жыл бұрын

The Conway kid absolutely came to my mind, too.

@awuma 2 жыл бұрын

But that's no problem in the US! Kelly Ann's husband is also a critic of Trump. Political diversity exists in many prominent American families, e.g. the Brzezinski siblings, Susan Rice's children.

@tramerritt9770 2 жыл бұрын

Beautiful execution and quality content as always +5 GOE

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

🙏🙏

@kirstenneville1934 2 жыл бұрын

Lol everytime you say “grandfather burped in a glass”. Also thank you for all your hard work Dave. Why hasn’t nbc hired you.

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

🙏

@Q_from_Star_Trek 2 жыл бұрын

because NBC sucks? :-)

@carmacn2129 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks again for your faithfulness to reporting the situation as you see it.

@mobimom3286 2 жыл бұрын

The ISU has reacted with (unfortunately not surprising) cowardice. In the most recent statement, they briefly mentioned that there are no competitions currently scheduled in Russia or Belarus, before going on to explain that the real problem is Canada. Russian aggression is not mentioned, rather, they repeatedly refer to "the situation in Ukraine". Disgraceful! Time for skaters from other countries to consider boycotting Worlds? More importantly, time to ditch the ISU as the international organizing institution for figure skating? Sorry for the rant, but am really disgusted by everything the ISU has done to destroy our sport and by all of the ways they continue to expose their moral bankruptcy. Thank you Dave, for your important work.

@tomkroh2712 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your unrelenting work. The amount of layers to all of this. What you are providing us is on another level. Keep it up!

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

🙏🙏

@shelflife5213 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you, Dave, for your work. I joined on Patreon right after the Olympics just to show you my appreciation of your coverage of the event - no other news outlet came close to the quality of TSL's sound information and commentary. This still stands today. I have no idea why The New York Times hasn't snatched you up yet.

@mmmzzzpppqqq 2 жыл бұрын

YES! I was just thinking, “how is Dave not being interviewed yet by the mainstream media?”

@fatimateresa19 2 жыл бұрын

12:54 haha I loved the sound you did while passing the page...🤣🤣 I see you have done your homework. Tatiana navka is very quiet now...🤐 . All the people of Ukraine are in my prayers 🙏🏽 🇺🇦

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

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@TheDivayenta 2 жыл бұрын

I’ve been waiting for this- Thankyou, Dave!

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

❤️❤️

@elena_elenaG 2 жыл бұрын

Dave, this is really good analysis, I want all the sports journalists who write about FS to be as deep and structured. Thank you.

@kevinhsu8184 2 жыл бұрын

I hope someday news programs like 60 minutes will do a deep dive like you did here or media companies like Netflix making a documentary on Russian/ ISU figure skating doping scandals. These info really needs to be more out there. Hopefully they will have you as a paid consultant to navigate these complex information.

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

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@mrsb50 2 жыл бұрын

There is a documentary called Icarus from 2017 that Netflix distributed (I believe it’s still on US Netflix today) that is very worth watching. By chance, the filmmaker is in touch with Grigory Rodchenkov when the Russian doping scandal is uncovered and he helps get him out of the country before the government silences him. It’s a very interesting look into the system that seems to still be operating in some capacity.

@MsJubjubbird 2 жыл бұрын

Alexandra will switch to Mishin and suddenly all those pre-rotations will appear on her scorecard. My concern about WADA getting additional funding from Russia would be that they would then be able to take more control of the organisation with a financial gun

@fotomagrol 2 жыл бұрын

This is why I was telling someone in tweeter that skating as an sport is used by Rusia as a propaganda and bussness for the state.

@sandrandidi 2 жыл бұрын

Why Dave isn't on a TV channel already enlightening everyone ? Or at least sport journalists/commentators to show them how is it done? I guess we don't deserve Dave ♡ Thanks for another great video and will keep supporting this amazing channel ^^

@lild2515 2 жыл бұрын

Kamila's sample did not have a trace amount. The level of tmz in Kamila's sample was 200X the level of cases where tmz was present because of contaminated products.

@Dan-uf2vh 2 жыл бұрын

In essence, they timed her doping badly, unlike the usual. Instead of a reliable doping testing system with definitive conclusions we got pure extrapolation. If she had a one time trimetazedine it would not have impacted performance and might have been an accident. Hair testing needs to be implemented for the future thereby disabling the abuse that Eteri & doc can pull off. Kamila was treated unjustly and wrongly disqualified in a futile attempt to punish another unjust system. The best outcome for everyone was that Kamila ended up in the 4th place, but after careful consideration and back-and-forth opinions, I realize that she neither "broke" nor was told to fail. What happened is that when she stepped on the ice for the final, she had been deprived of sleep, emotionally drained, with no medal awaiting her as she would compromise the ceremony and get confirmed positive any way (I assume that will happen). So she started the skate and at the first sign of trouble, considering her mates' exquisite performances, she must have thought that she mustn't make the podium. The absolute worst is if she ruined the ceremony while only taking 3rd place. So she let go. Which is exactly what Eteri said, "why did you let go?". Well, as it turned out, this was the absolute best outcome for Kamila's popularity and for the ceremony to commence. She also got FAR more from this whole fiasco than any gold medal could have brought her, if she had not been detected. Within the context it was an immense injustice but overall the outcome was the best. She is unlikely to end up in the scrap heap within two years, unless she willingly retires. My gripe with this thing is that even though Kamila's consolation prize in popularity far outweighs the gold medal, the underlying issues seems will remain unresolved, especially with the war in Ukraine cutting Russia off. Kamila worked hard under the existing systems. She shouldn't have been harassed by WADA and IOC, was effectively no more "doped" than the rest of the Russian machine and should have competed fairly, while at the same time making sure that the child abuse system that produces expendable high performance discardable toys gets stopped NOW, before a new generation gets the same treatment.

@maria375s 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you Dave for all your hard work, your dedication to covering this is unmatched!

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

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@shuaiw 2 жыл бұрын

wow the olympics now seems like 1 million years ago

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

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@colleenshaughnessy7081 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks, Dave, we've been waiting fir an update.

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

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@nenasalobir6379 2 жыл бұрын

The breathless reporting, the rustling of papers… am so here for it 🕵️‍♂️ ♥️

@littleblackpistol 2 жыл бұрын

Excellent work, you do proper research and dig deep, make connections with greater conscientiousness than professional media.

@psinschktz1192 2 жыл бұрын

As always, thank you so much Dave for collecting and organizing so much Info.

@iosebdzamukashvili5360 2 жыл бұрын

As always excellent and super interesting! THANKS Dave! What a work! 🙏❤

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

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@youarestronger 2 жыл бұрын

I was so hoping for content today. You are amazing!

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

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@amyg4115 2 жыл бұрын

Anna Rizatdinova, the 2016 Olympic bronze medalist in rhythmic gymnastics has also be live streaming from Kiev from a bomb she.get with her little boy. Anna Shabotova may have been born in Moscow, her mother and grandparents and other family are Ukrainian and many still live there (which is why I was surprised so many didn’t understand why she would compete for Ukraine after becoming persona non grata by RussianFigure Skating for blasting Eteri’s camp and doping at13 -her roots are still Ukrainian and a natural choice when deciding where to go from Russia to compete), Aljona Savchenko’s family is still in Ukraine, and DWTS Maksim Chmerkovsky has also been live streaming from bomb shelter- I think this may motivate the IOC/ISU to respond more harshly against Russia due to it’s fallout and affects on top level athletes. At least, we can only hope the outrage allows them to grow a pair regarding Russia.

@rachelgates509 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you Dave!! As always, you are doing the Lord’s work! Praying for Ukraine 🇺🇦!!!!!!!!! Down with Putin!!!!!!!!!!!!

@avg18 2 жыл бұрын

Very well researched, Dave! All the information on the connection of the sport and its ties to the russian government is very well done indeed.

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

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@strawberrylime33 2 жыл бұрын

How does Russia have the ISU by the balls so hard? Russia needs to be held accountable but the ISU is throwing a softball. It's so very wrong.

@sayomsskiver 2 жыл бұрын

Love you Dave!!! Thank you for your work!!!

@sallydaniel1023 2 жыл бұрын

Your reporting is top notch, Dave 👍

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

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@EVA-sw8wo 2 жыл бұрын

Medvedeva received 2 Olympic silver medals, one individual and one team. Maybe that's the reason she received the order of friendship while Trusova didn't. I don't think it has much to do with her behaviour...i mean Kamila is receiving an order of friendship after a meltdown, a doping scandal (with the potential of losing the gold altogether) and a few not so great performances but i might be wrong

@karinacabrera1833 2 жыл бұрын

Yay, waiting for this! Thanks Dave!

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

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@Curiousever 2 жыл бұрын

You are a very gifted journalist/detective.

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@marycoyne1889 2 жыл бұрын

I’ve been waiting for this thank you

@marydimuro2953 2 жыл бұрын

Your thorough research and eloquent delivery of this vital information shows your profound dedication to this sport. Thank you seems inadequate to cover all the hours you spend every week informing all of us of the truth. I hope one day I can meet you to thank you in person.

@ddjr6673 2 жыл бұрын

Fantastic research, insight and commentary, Dave once again, incredibly impressive, thank you. Hair strand tests are a fascinating topic in legal circles. The plus points: all the Russian girls have exceedingly long hair, it could show a lot of history if there were substances used over a long period of time. However, hair dye and treatments (such as Sasha Trousova) have the potential to negate any tests. As for Kamila’s ‘B’ sample. One the one hand why haven’t we head the result of this, by now. On the other, it could be irrelevant. They are not contesting the efficiency of the testing, they’re not saying it is a false positive. They are saying the test is accurate but she “didn’t mean to dope’. In law it then comes down to intention. Is it a case of ‘tough luck - it is there, it is illegal, you should know better, we punish you’ (what is known as a ‘strict liability’ offence) or does there have to be an intention to dope (in legal terms ‘mens rea’. And of course, the definition of ‘protected athlete’ also seems dubious. My sad view is, whatever happens, Eteri will remain in place, she will still keep doing her ‘thing’, be allowed to travel etc.

@Dan-uf2vh 2 жыл бұрын

In essence, they timed her doping badly, unlike the usual. Instead of a reliable doping testing system with definitive conclusions we got pure extrapolation. If she had a one time trimetazedine it would not have impacted performance and might have been an accident. Hair testing needs to be implemented for the future thereby disabling some of the abuse that Eteri & doc can pull off. Kamila was treated unjustly and wrongly disqualified in a futile attempt to punish another unjust system. The best outcome for everyone was that Kamila ended up in the 4th place, but after careful consideration and back-and-forth opinions, I realize that she neither "broke" nor was told to fail. What happened is that when she stepped on the ice for the final, she had been deprived of sleep, emotionally drained, with no medal awaiting her as she would compromise the ceremony and get confirmed positive any way (I assume that will happen). So she started the skate and at the first sign of trouble, considering her mates' exquisite performances, she must have thought that she mustn't make the podium. The absolute worst is if she ruined the ceremony while only taking 3rd place. So she let go. Which is exactly what Eteri said, "why did you let go?". Well, as it turned out, this was the absolute best outcome for Kamila's popularity and for the ceremony to commence. She also got FAR more from this whole fiasco than any gold medal could have brought her, if she had not been detected. Within the context it was an immense injustice but overall the outcome was the best. She is unlikely to end up in the scrap heap within two years, unless she willingly retires. My gripe with this thing is that even though Kamila's consolation prize in popularity far outweighs the gold medal, the underlying issues seems will remain unresolved, especially with the war in Ukraine cutting Russia off. Kamila worked hard under the existing systems. She shouldn't have been harassed by WADA and IOC, was effectively no more "doped" than the rest of the Russian machine and should have competed fairly, while at the same time making sure that the child abuse system that produces expendable high performance discardable toys gets stopped NOW, before a new generation gets the same treatment.

@Melissa-yr7fm 2 жыл бұрын

For hair testing, they can take hair from anywhere on the body. It does not have to be your head. For men, it’s common to take chest hair. If someone shaves their entire body, that’s a red flag, as there is hair everywhere.

@ddjr6673 2 жыл бұрын

@@Melissa-yr7fm Yes, for sure, but each centimetre of hair is one month's use of drugs, that is the difficulty. The longer the strand, the more time is covered. For the men, they can say shaving their body "man-scaping" keeps them trim for the costumes etc.

@Melissa-yr7fm 2 жыл бұрын

@@ddjr6673 yes, however, arm hair, leg hair and pubic hair can be used. The notion of head hair being tainted by dyes and chemicals doesn’t work. The idea that men often “man scape,” isn’t going to work. Generally speaking, unless someone suffers from an intense case of alopecia, there is some hair, somewhere on the body available for testing. Sure, head hair can give a long history, which is great for research. If you are looking for drugs to allow someone to compete for the current season or competition, hair on almost any other part of the body will work. It’s silly that they don’t do that now. Even for swimmers or sports where there is a lot of hair grooming, it’s rare to see someone without hair of the required length anywhere on their body. I’m sure, just like with all things, exceptions can be made or rules can be made for certain situations. Skating doesn’t even really need exemptions, even for men’s chest hair, because you can make costumes that cover any are with nude material.

@ddjr6673 2 жыл бұрын

@@Melissa-yr7fm Then yes, let's do it. No matter how short the time. I agree... sadly we are not in charge - if only we were.

@mastermargarita3926 2 жыл бұрын

So well-researched! Thanks Dave♥️

@strawberrylime33 2 жыл бұрын

I found an interesting tweet about the ISU "response" to the situation in Ukraine: the ISU tweeting how they stand with Ukraine is like politicians responding to police brutality without using the words "minority", "racist", "wrong",or "police".

@anneludlow4891 2 жыл бұрын

First one! THANK YOU, Dave, for all your work on this.

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

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@narusasu813 2 жыл бұрын

All the corruption needs to stop.

@christinerose4839 2 жыл бұрын

If your American look at your own country doping there are plenty don’t forget your own Lance Armstrong 7 filthy years

@narusasu813 2 жыл бұрын

All said all corruption. Isnt lance from a European country

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

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@robbyten100 2 жыл бұрын

@@christinerose4839 was it state sponsored? Still bad but the Russians do it on a whole other level. Also they arent being punished harshly enough.

@paolocastellano2771 2 жыл бұрын

@@christinerose4839 Everybody who competed with Lance was doping as well... Are you so monumentally naive?

@CrazyTiffany86 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you Dave!

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

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@emerald637 2 жыл бұрын

Sasha did NOT complete her five quad jumps with clean, accurate, complete, and proper full rotations. She only completed two out of the five clean and fully rotated, nevertheless, she was unfairly, and unjustifiedly rewarded for all five unclean quad jumps, regardless.

@jjsmith4829 2 жыл бұрын

according to the official judges' scoresheet, Trusova was given negative GOE marks on 3 of her jump passes; 2 of those 3 were for quad jumps. for Trusova's quad flip jump she was judged not to have a clear edge, but received a positive GOE. that jump should have been marked down.

@jamiejoonks 2 жыл бұрын

@EB18 so true, Japan doesn’t fight for their athletes enough….

@nl887 2 жыл бұрын

@EB18 I think she deserved to be on the podium but in the end of the day it's all the judges decisions

@amethyst5512 2 жыл бұрын

@@nl887 not really. If scored fairly, as the rules are written, her PCS should be about half of what it is. Her skating skills are used as an example of what a score of 4 looks like. There are young kids with better skating skills than her. Plus, she had no actual program. Just a lot of really crappy crossovers into jumps that were not given as much negative GOE & technical calls as they should. She also lacks performance energy.

@nl887 2 жыл бұрын

@@amethyst5512 all are amazing skaters and all deserve a place on the podium in the end of the day blame the judges

@cquinnth 2 жыл бұрын

Great job of reporting Dave..so hope that this war will end.

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

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@Jumblebelle 2 жыл бұрын

Honestly shocked to learn athletes at ISU events are drug-tested that little. I assumed everyone got tested at every event.

@Updog89 2 жыл бұрын

I would hope that ISU would start prioritizing this, especially when children are involved! The idea that people may have been getting away with drugging children due to lack of testing is sickening.

@astreqwerty 2 жыл бұрын

What is not explained throughout is why was valieva “outed” like that. Allegedly all of the three girls dope. Especially Anna. We have visual proof of that. I can’t say for sure for trusova but I believe so. I think the whole thing was handled this way so Anna could win. I don’t know why is that, but that’s how I explain the sudden tmz I’m valieva at this strategic time

@mainaalmeida4246 2 жыл бұрын

They probably made an error on Kamila's dose OR she didn't metabolized the drug fast enough.

@tonymu8984 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for doing this!!

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

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@msmo2060 2 жыл бұрын

I think all athletes should give a hair sample , maybe a few times a year. It’s way too easy to pass a urine drug screen now… I mean Amazon alone sells at least 100 different varieties of stuff to flush your system…

@kirstenneville1934 2 жыл бұрын

I mean seriously..it seems like a no brainer. Not sure what would be preventing them from doing this at this point..other than Covid?

@kristi4113 2 жыл бұрын

It would be a huge red flag if everyone showed up to testing with cue ball heads, even the females.

@Nyquil5 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your informative report.

@debbied2715 2 жыл бұрын

Off this topic Dave but as a Peacock subscriber, do you have any idea why the only replays of Olympic figure skating are in the NBC daily coverage and no longer individually listed as all the other sports are? One can no longer view the past competitions either!

@brandondaniels9471 2 жыл бұрын

r/FigureSkating is your friend 😉

@ElishaaLi 2 жыл бұрын

At my high school every student had to submit to hair drug testing at least once a year if not twice if you were selected by the random draw for a second time. How are they not able to enforce hair testing for professional athletes??

@Jumblebelle 2 жыл бұрын

Does Eteri get 40% of all that prize money?

@Cooltiger28 2 жыл бұрын

You are doing a great. My hart goes out to the people of Ukraine 🇺🇦. I am praying for you all. God speed and be safe

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

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@topicdel 2 жыл бұрын

Dave, thank you for your unrelenting and thorough coverage!! Hope you are taking care of yourself too!

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

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@shawnamessinger8077 2 жыл бұрын

Dave, you’re the best!

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

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@aweishaupt5955 2 жыл бұрын

😳 Very disappointing info, thank you for your comprehensive research and all your efforts. I hope the right people get ahold of the information and that you blast this everywhere. Shocking, not shocking!

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

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@sleuththewild 2 жыл бұрын

Great job, and a difficult one. So much detail to master. As always, thanks! And I agree with the poster downthread who is glad you did away with the Russian-accent presentation.

@jeanfitzgerald5252 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you So this video is so informative.

@falconeddie4109 2 жыл бұрын

Gawd…Sasha is gonna be super pissed if her award means she’s exempt from the cash award, apartment, cars that the other skaters w/ the Friendship Award will get. The Russian Rocket 🇷🇺 🚀 cannot catch a break for once. 🤦‍♂️

@atomic2968 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much for this

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

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@marydimuro2953 2 жыл бұрын

Dave Lease for president of the ISU!

@jjh2456 2 жыл бұрын

Given the geo political stuff going on with Russia right now all this stuff is just crazy. I saw that Norway will not allow any Russian athletes to compete in their country. Also a lot of the Soccer players are pulling out of qualifying for the Russian World Cup. Something tells me dominoes are starting to fall as Russia is becoming a pariah on all fronts right now.

@benbailey159bb 2 жыл бұрын

What proposed ISU changes? I seemed to have missed that bit.

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

Age rule

@shalom968 2 жыл бұрын

I can understand Alexandra Trusova being upset that she landed 5 quads(4 cleanly) and still did not win first place. I honestly believe that her pick in music was a very poor idea. Most of these judges are very old school and they are more inclined to give higher artistic scores to music that is classical. And her choreography was not impressive either. When she was with Plushenko’s team, they gave her an amazing choreographed program and music. If she had skated to that program this year and landed the 5 quads, I have no doubt she would have won.

@melissatowner8556 2 жыл бұрын

Missed you Dave

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

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@yosily 2 жыл бұрын

Dave, thank you for your excellent investigative journalism

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

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@yugiohlegend 2 жыл бұрын

I always like to find a podcast/long video to listen to while working out and this is perfect timing. Thank you so much for the updates and work you put into making these!!! ❤️

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

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@tracienieto2722 2 жыл бұрын

Have never doubted your Hostessing skills!

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

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@denisecampbell6736 2 жыл бұрын

I thought the Biological Passport was accepted across the board irregardless of the Sport? Sad to learn it’s not & it should be. I can’t wait to see my Kidney Specialist at next Transplant Clinic. Have I got some questions for him. Just like when EPO became known as a go to Blood Doping Drug. I had to take EPO when on Dialysis &, just to begin w/, that shot hurts so much that if you don’t need to take it, then why would you? Just on that alone. I always equate it to getting nailed by 5 Black Hornets in the same place & at the same time!! When I say that stuff hurts, it HURTS!! Then there’s what increasing the Red Blood Cell Count in a Healthy Person long term can bring. It’s scary, as there’s such an increased risk of major Blood Clots forming due to all of those extra Red Blood Cells floating around. Which brings it’s own complications w/that happening. It’s a sad & scary thing w/out a doubt. Thanks Dave for all of your hard work on this, as it is very much appreciated by many of us. Take Care!! 😊

@maple8859 2 жыл бұрын

I think a few million dollars in endorsements will dull the pain.

@emmarosespags 2 жыл бұрын

LOVE U DAVE!!

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

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@jc3drums916 2 жыл бұрын

At this point, Russia should just be banned from every international competition of every sport.

@aysenivanov7130 2 жыл бұрын

Sports outsice politics. You're an animal.

@MK-kw4ih 2 жыл бұрын

@@aysenivanov7130 No, for Russia sport most certainly is NOT outside politics. They use it as an effective way to promote their propaganda. Ban Russian athletes from all sports and events now! No one blames to athletes. This would be a way to get to Putin and his regime.

@louisehancock324 2 жыл бұрын

The ISU should sanction Russia, not allowing their skaters to compete at any ISU events.

@amethyst5512 2 жыл бұрын

Agree. Hit them where it hurts. Their presence at the world championships (if there are any) would also be a huge distraction at this point with the doping scandal plus current events. Let’s not let their crap ruin another major skating event.

@catc8927 2 жыл бұрын

Their skaters may not even be able to travel to competitions outside of Russia, given the ban on Russian flights.

@rajs7876 2 жыл бұрын

UEFA moved the Champions League final too. Any talks of a World Figure Skating Federation again?

@kak7440 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you Dave for all your hard work over the last 2 months in particular- l await the updates and am always impressed with your thorough work. I think the reason for the invasion is to strip the Ukraine of ALL their natural resources ie oil and gas and to unite the old USSR.